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Quote from: agustina2 on August 22, 2022, 06:32:19 PM

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SMB knows that they can defeat TNT. They just fell short in the final 1.6 seconds. I'm curious on how the SMB will adjust to it or they will just focus on what they are doing which is spreading the offense and not focusing only on JMF like what they used to do years ago.

SMB should also not stay confident. That kills them. Despite the fact that TNT's Mikey Williams is not in his usual beast mode and Poy Erram is struggling against June Mar Fajardo and Mo Tautaa, TNT still managed to overcome their large deficit.

SMB focusing their offense on JMF is really effective as he is really unstoppable. However, that makes JMF's stamina more used as he also focuses on the defense side where lots of TNT players can attack the paint that easily. Without him, TNT can just attack the paint without much a problem.

That's a good thing if you're an SMB fan that Mikey Williams isn't on his actual self where he will just score 20 points every game. Maybe the Magnolia exposed him in the Semi-Finals and now SMB knows how to defend him, but TNT still has more offensive weapons like Pogoy, Castro and even Khobuntin off the bench.

We saw how JMF scored in Game 1. 24 points with 11/12 FG shooting. He can still dominate the paint, and it's a good thing that he is shooting in the perimeter as well aside from near the ring, which makes him harder to defend if you're the opponent. Nevertheless, focusing on him offensively will not work any more like how they are doing years ago. It's the TNT that they are facing with, and for sure they know how to counter that one. They still have Mo though if JMF is in the bench, and he is a good defender as well and faster in transition defense.

Game 2 on Wednesday.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on August 21, 2022, 09:05:32 PM

SMB knows that they can defeat TNT. They just fell short in the final 1.6 seconds. I'm curious on how the SMB will adjust to it or they will just focus on what they are doing which is spreading the offense and not focusing only on JMF like what they used to do years ago.

SMB should also not stay confident. That kills them. Despite the fact that TNT's Mikey Williams is not in his usual beast mode and Poy Erram is struggling against June Mar Fajardo and Mo Tautaa, TNT still managed to overcome their large deficit.

SMB focusing their offense on JMF is really effective as he is really unstoppable. However, that makes JMF's stamina more used as he also focuses on the defense side where lots of TNT players can attack the paint that easily. Without him, TNT can just attack the paint without much a problem.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on August 22, 2022, 07:36:23 AM

My plan is, I will put 10k in game 2, if it wins, I will pay the loan and take the profit, if not, I will bet the remaining 20k in game 3, and just hope SMB will win. Do you think it's a good idea?

Do you have Plan B just in case you will lose those bets? Obviously, your plan is not a good idea as you are taking chances there.

But if you have Plan B where you can cover the loan even losing your bet, then your money, your decision. Although it will be a painful loss.

Even for let's say officiating will favor a certain team to win, we still don't know who will win at the end. Both teams are serious winning. The officiating can't control the flow of the ball and can't just dictate what should happen.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on August 22, 2022, 07:36:23 AM

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Despite of the performance of TNT, I agree that SMB will not go into a position of 3-0 here and this one is a good strategy if you really want to win some though of course there's still a risk and we can't really know. I'm waiting as well for the odds, this can be interesting especially if TNT will be the favorite team to win in game 2.

SMB should do better in the next game and should practice how to take care of their lead and to stay compose despite of the pressure giving to them by their opponent. TNT should also not be complacent here, game 1 is quiet a game test for both teams, probably the upcoming games will be more exciting.

Of course, if PBA is rigged, then they will find a way to make it a long series, and we are going to take advantage of that. hehe..

I don't have a cash now, but I'm thinking of borrowing at least 30k which I will pay in less than a week.

My plan is, I will put 10k in game 2, if it wins, I will pay the loan and take the profit, if not, I will bet the remaining 20k in game 3, and just hope SMB will win. Do you think it's a good idea?

Borrowing money and use it in gambling is very risky, but if you have the money to repay that loan even if you lose then I think it can be worth the risk but don’t over confident with SMB. Personally I won’t take such loan even if I know a good team will win, you can just place a small bet and just enjoy the game, this is my way of gambling so it’s really depend on you.

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Quote from: harizen on August 22, 2022, 05:04:52 PM

Game 2, SMB should now try to maintain their lead if ever they will repeat again putting TNT behind a big lead so that no more close call encounters at the end.

They led as much as 15 points but they allow TNT to advance that result for the latter to win that game.

Yeah, that's why I thought that game 1 is already theirs upon seeing the first half of the game. But they weren't able to maintain that lead and the TNT reached and eventually led the score.

Quote from: harizen on August 22, 2022, 05:04:52 PM

Everyone should now move on. As JMF said, "if that was counted, then it's counted, move on." I also noticed that JMF perimeter shooting skills are impressive in that Game. Hard to defend more if he is both dangerous in the shaded area and perimeter zone.

On Wednesday when game 2 starts, that's for sure going to be forgotten as the focus of everyone will go with game 2. Well, just focus on the upcoming games and forget about that buzzer-beater. The SMB isn't even protesting for that loss.

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Game 2, SMB should now try to maintain their lead if ever they will repeat again putting TNT behind a big lead so that no more close call encounters at the end.

They led as much as 15 points but they allow TNT to advance that result for the latter to win that game.

Everyone should now move on. As JMF said, "if that was counted, then it's counted, move on." I also noticed that JMF perimeter shooting skills are impressive in that Game. Hard to defend more if he is both dangerous in the shaded area and perimeter zone.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on August 22, 2022, 07:36:23 AM

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Quote from: Kelvinid on August 22, 2022, 05:31:59 AM

Okay, I hope you guys are done discussing what happened in game 1.

Let's now move on to game 2, it will be on Wednesday, so there's plenty of time for SMB to review the tape and determine what their mistakes on why they let their big lead melt in the 2nd half. I'm sure SMB will still remain as the favorite in game 2, and I don't mind because I'm backing them to even the series.

Though I like to bet now but there's no odds available yet, it will only start offering tomorrow evening, so make sure you ready your bets for tomorrow, put on SMB to win, if they will still lose, double it in game 3, no way they will be 3-0 in the series.

Despite of the performance of TNT, I agree that SMB will not go into a position of 3-0 here and this one is a good strategy if you really want to win some though of course there's still a risk and we can't really know. I'm waiting as well for the odds, this can be interesting especially if TNT will be the favorite team to win in game 2.

SMB should do better in the next game and should practice how to take care of their lead and to stay compose despite of the pressure giving to them by their opponent. TNT should also not be complacent here, game 1 is quiet a game test for both teams, probably the upcoming games will be more exciting.

Of course, if PBA is rigged, then they will find a way to make it a long series, and we are going to take advantage of that. hehe..

I don't have a cash now, but I'm thinking of borrowing at least 30k which I will pay in less than a week.

My plan is, I will put 10k in game 2, if it wins, I will pay the loan and take the profit, if not, I will bet the remaining 20k in game 3, and just hope SMB will win. Do you think it's a good idea?

Though I'm a big fan of SMB and I believe that they can win a game against TNT but shit can happen and we don't know when it will come to your way, but strategy wise, I'll go with you if I have that same chance to barrow that good amount of money, if you win in game 2 10K is good enough to start your chased for more from this series.

Paying the loan right away is a wise decision, you can work with 10K and start trying your luck but if things go sideways, 3 straight losses might not happen else, SMB will put themselves to a risky situation far for possibilities in winning the title.

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Quote from: Questat on August 22, 2022, 05:06:38 AM

We are not talking about moving on here, we are talking about the controversial winning shot of Castro. For some it's counted, while for others it's not, just like what I'm saying, the official decision was it's counted, but you cannot eliminate the speculation that some people think the officials made a mistake here.

Popular comments I read disagreeing with the officials' decision was, in 1.8 seconds Castro was able to dribble the ball twice and then pull up to shot, they believe the time is too short in order to execute it.

Fans will always make it controversial whenever it is a close call. They never lose, they only got cheated.

If you want this to be controversial, show a photo where the red backlight is on and the ball is still in Castro's hand.

And it is not 1.8 seconds, it is 1.6 seconds and it is doable. You can even see this kind of play in amateur/collegiate basketball, so it is not impossible to be done in PBA in a finals game.

I said move on because there is nothing you can change in there. You can never reverse time or reverse the ref's call. You can only throw shades that are only detrimental to the league.

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Quote from: samcrypto on August 22, 2022, 07:31:35 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on August 22, 2022, 07:03:35 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on August 22, 2022, 05:31:59 AM

Okay, I hope you guys are done discussing what happened in game 1.

Let's now move on to game 2, it will be on Wednesday, so there's plenty of time for SMB to review the tape and determine what their mistakes on why they let their big lead melt in the 2nd half. I'm sure SMB will still remain as the favorite in game 2, and I don't mind because I'm backing them to even the series.

Though I like to bet now but there's no odds available yet, it will only start offering tomorrow evening, so make sure you ready your bets for tomorrow, put on SMB to win, if they will still lose, double it in game 3, no way they will be 3-0 in the series.

Despite of the performance of TNT, I agree that SMB will not go into a position of 3-0 here and this one is a good strategy if you really want to win some though of course there's still a risk and we can't really know. I'm waiting as well for the odds, this can be interesting especially if TNT will be the favorite team to win in game 2.

SMB should do better in the next game and should practice how to take care of their lead and to stay compose despite of the pressure giving to them by their opponent. TNT should also not be complacent here, game 1 is quiet a game test for both teams, probably the upcoming games will be more exciting.

Of course, if PBA is rigged, then they will find a way to make it a long series, and we are going to take advantage of that. hehe..

I don't have a cash now, but I'm thinking of borrowing at least 30k which I will pay in less than a week.

My plan is, I will put 10k in game 2, if it wins, I will pay the loan and take the profit, if not, I will bet the remaining 20k in game 3, and just hope SMB will win. Do you think it's a good idea?

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Quote from: Yamifoud on August 22, 2022, 07:03:35 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on August 22, 2022, 05:31:59 AM

Okay, I hope you guys are done discussing what happened in game 1.

Let's now move on to game 2, it will be on Wednesday, so there's plenty of time for SMB to review the tape and determine what their mistakes on why they let their big lead melt in the 2nd half. I'm sure SMB will still remain as the favorite in game 2, and I don't mind because I'm backing them to even the series.

Though I like to bet now but there's no odds available yet, it will only start offering tomorrow evening, so make sure you ready your bets for tomorrow, put on SMB to win, if they will still lose, double it in game 3, no way they will be 3-0 in the series.

Despite of the performance of TNT, I agree that SMB will not go into a position of 3-0 here and this one is a good strategy if you really want to win some though of course there's still a risk and we can't really know. I'm waiting as well for the odds, this can be interesting especially if TNT will be the favorite team to win in game 2.

SMB should do better in the next game and should practice how to take care of their lead and to stay compose despite of the pressure giving to them by their opponent. TNT should also not be complacent here, game 1 is quiet a game test for both teams, probably the upcoming games will be more exciting.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on August 22, 2022, 05:31:59 AM

Okay, I hope you guys are done discussing what happened in game 1.

Let's now move on to game 2, it will be on Wednesday, so there's plenty of time for SMB to review the tape and determine what their mistakes on why they let their big lead melt in the 2nd half. I'm sure SMB will still remain as the favorite in game 2, and I don't mind because I'm backing them to even the series.

Though I like to bet now but there's no odds available yet, it will only start offering tomorrow evening, so make sure you ready your bets for tomorrow, put on SMB to win, if they will still lose, double it in game 3, no way they will be 3-0 in the series.

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Okay, I hope you guys are done discussing what happened in game 1.

Let's now move on to game 2, it will be on Wednesday, so there's plenty of time for SMB to review the tape and determine what their mistakes on why they let their big lead melt in the 2nd half. I'm sure SMB will still remain as the favorite in game 2, and I don't mind because I'm backing them to even the series.

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Quote from: jakelyson on August 22, 2022, 04:41:56 AM

Quote from: Questat on August 22, 2022, 03:10:33 AM

Officially it went it, but you cannot blame some fans who think that it should not be counted.

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That one looks not counted, but if you look at the video, it's very close, it's hard to tell, I think the PBA officials are too quick to conclude, they should have made a look several times before making a final judgment.

You can see that the board is not yet in red light. Yes it is zero but the board not yet in red. And if you review the video, it is really hard to determine.

The rule in PBA is "When it is inconclusive, the first call stands" and the first call was it is a basket. So it is counted.

Mind you, I am an SMB fan and I accept that they lost Game 1. Fans should move on too. It is just the first game and SMB has shown that they can have a big lead against TNT, only if they can protect it. SMB will adjust in Game 2 for sure, that is what I want to see. They can dominate TNT, with just a little adjustment.

We are not talking about moving on here, we are talking about the controversial winning shot of Castro. For some it's counted, while for others it's not, just like what I'm saying, the official decision was it's counted, but you cannot eliminate the speculation that some people think the officials made a mistake here.

Popular comments I read disagreeing with the officials' decision was, in 1.8 seconds Castro was able to dribble the ball twice and then pull up to shot, they believe the time is too short in order to execute it.

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^I'm also a fan of SMB and when I saw that the referee count it in, I admit the defeat of SMB and move on and look for the next game. Yeah, probably those who are really a die hard fan of SMB has making the rounds, but the call is already final and nothing can be done to change the ruling. The best thing to do for SMB is just move on with the lost and look forward for a game 2 win and just be positive and make the necessary adjustments.

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Quote from: Questat on August 22, 2022, 03:10:33 AM

Officially it went it, but you cannot blame some fans who think that it should not be counted.

ctto

That one looks not counted, but if you look at the video, it's very close, it's hard to tell, I think the PBA officials are too quick to conclude, they should have made a look several times before making a final judgment.

You can see that the board is not yet in red light. Yes it is zero but the board not yet in red. And if you review the video, it is really hard to determine.

The rule in PBA is "When it is inconclusive, the first call stands" and the first call was it is a basket. So it is counted.

Mind you, I am an SMB fan and I accept that they lost Game 1. Fans should move on too. It is just the first game and SMB has shown that they can have a big lead against TNT, only if they can protect it. SMB will adjust in Game 2 for sure, that is what I want to see. They can dominate TNT, with just a little adjustment.

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Quote from: Questat on August 22, 2022, 03:10:33 AM

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Quote from: harizen on August 21, 2022, 06:40:21 PM

especially that controversial clutch shot by Jayson Castro that seals the win. Anyway, the result can't be changed. As long as we see a close game like that where refs are not ruining the game, at least, it's more entertaining to watch.

Only the fans are making it complicated, the shot gets in and that's the reality that can't alter the game's 1 result. People should move on to that shot.
It's a buzzer beater and that's not the only buzzer-beater shot that we've seen in our lives. Fans just really have to stop arguing and making it a big thing because it's really counted.

Officially it went it, but you cannot blame some fans who think that it should not be counted.

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That one looks not counted, but if you look at the video, it's very close, it's hard to tell, I think the PBA officials are too quick to conclude, they should have made a look several times before making a final judgment.

He's already in the air and even the timer says zero, it has to ring the bell as it still has milliseconds to consider. And that's why the basket is counted and that decision won't be changed.
SMB has just to do well on their game 2 and let's see if they'll still choke by that game or they won't allow the lead of theirs to be caught up by the TNT.

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Quote from: blockman on August 22, 2022, 02:27:16 AM

Quote from: harizen on August 21, 2022, 06:40:21 PM

especially that controversial clutch shot by Jayson Castro that seals the win. Anyway, the result can't be changed. As long as we see a close game like that where refs are not ruining the game, at least, it's more entertaining to watch.

Only the fans are making it complicated, the shot gets in and that's the reality that can't alter the game's 1 result. People should move on to that shot.
It's a buzzer beater and that's not the only buzzer-beater shot that we've seen in our lives. Fans just really have to stop arguing and making it a big thing because it's really counted.

Officially it went it, but you cannot blame some fans who think that it should not be counted.

ctto

That one looks not counted, but if you look at the video, it's very close, it's hard to tell, I think the PBA officials are too quick to conclude, they should have made a look several times before making a final judgment.

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Quote from: harizen on August 21, 2022, 06:40:21 PM

especially that controversial clutch shot by Jayson Castro that seals the win. Anyway, the result can't be changed. As long as we see a close game like that where refs are not ruining the game, at least, it's more entertaining to watch.

Only the fans are making it complicated, the shot gets in and that's the reality that can't alter the game's 1 result. People should move on to that shot.
It's a buzzer beater and that's not the only buzzer-beater shot that we've seen in our lives. Fans just really have to stop arguing and making it a big thing because it's really counted.

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Quote from: harizen on August 21, 2022, 06:40:21 PM

Didn't able to watch the game as busy outside the capital during the weekend but the frequent post of PBA on their official Facebook makes me updated with the scores and they also share some scenes of the live game.

I even thought also that SMB will take the Game 1 lead when I see the score in the half. Surprised a bit when they got the lead after the 3rd.

Watching right now the Game 1 highlights to see how the game went through especially that controversial clutch shot by Jayson Castro that seals the win. Anyway, the result can't be changed. As long as we see a close game like that where refs are not ruining the game, at least, it's more entertaining to watch.

Refs can't do anything as the pressure from both MVP and SMB are really huge, that last shot is really controversial we can't deny that it's close to an eye blink to determine if Castro still holding the ball or it's already been released before the buzzer, my take, if that is not MVP team for sure it will be a different call, it's just so happen that the pressure is there for the refs not to call that, we will see if how SMB will bring the pressure in game 2, I'm expecting more pressure from the whole management to weight with the refs and PBA Grin

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Quote from: chaser15 on August 21, 2022, 04:25:38 PM

SMB fans should just accept that Game 1 defeat. Stop saying that it was rigged in favor of TNT.

In the first place, scores should not reach that close if they were able to protect their lead.

Sick to see comments on social media that it was fixed. That's always the argument when their team loses the game.

Remember when Ginebra lost to Meralco in the first round? That's what Ginebra fans did as well, and I see it funny that there are people out there on social media saying it was rigged blah blah, but they can't show any proofs at all. Typical Filipino keyboard warriors Cheesy

. Let them bark on social media, but I will just ignore them for the sake of PEACE

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Well, that's a good way to start the PBA Finals. Whenever you need a final shot, TNT always go on Jayson Castro. He is a very reliable veteran and TBH, that buzzer beater was the closest that I saw, and I think he released the ball at less than .1 second. That's how close that is. I'm an SMB fan ever since, and I already accepted what happened because it happens, that's all Cheesy

. Castro is a great and fast veteran player at his age, so it isn't surprising to me at all that they will go to him to throw the final shot, and he did it against Magnolia one time, so they know that he can do it again.

SMB knows that they can defeat TNT. They just fell short in the final 1.6 seconds. I'm curious on how the SMB will adjust to it or they will just focus on what they are doing which is spreading the offense and not focusing only on JMF like what they used to do years ago.

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