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August 26, 2022, 11:26:43 AM

Pogoy thus far is the most consistent on the TNT roster, but we know he cannot carry this team alone.  it was supposed to be Mikey Williams who is the top scorer.

SMB did a great job on Mikey Williams, though he still can score, but it's very evident how the was very limited in the game. Game 4 is very crucial for them, they already lose twice in a row, they should not allow to make it 3. A big adjustment is necessary, their 3 point shooting should hit because they cannot live in the paint since JMF is a beast inside both office and defense.

Fajardo is a big pain in the ass, he still dominate and we have seen that from today game, a classic Abay who enjoying the game, though he's can't do it alone as basketball is a team effort, a good adjustment from coach Leo, what a game from Ross, Cruz and the man itself Herndon, he's a lucky pick from the bench, though I was in the impression that he will be the reason why SMB will lose the game after that technical for delaying the game, good thing that Cruz really extend his effort not to allow Castro for another heroic winning shot.

Over time brings enjoyment for SMB backer especially to those who give that -3.5 without OT you know Roll Eyes Tongue

SMB is too deep for TNT. If not for that game-winning shot of Castro, it might be 3-0 now and that's really hard to win back. Congrats SMB!
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August 26, 2022, 10:51:11 AM
Looks like TNT is not missing Chot Reyes, they are competing very well against the SMB. Anyone here knows the handicap in this game? I was too busy and forgot that there's a game today. If I was able to place my bet, I would still go with SMB.

It's -3.5 for San Miguel Beermen, not that high and very attractive if you are a fan of SMB but looking at the game right now it seems that whoever wins, will just have a lead of not more than 5 points because it's a close one not like in game 2 where SMB separated in the early minutes of the fourth quarter.

Okay, good thing I didn't bet, this game goes to OT because of a bad mistake.  Smiley

There's a chance that SMB will cover here, or TNT to win, Jayson Castro this time did not make the last shot attempt, he was defended well.
More extra minutes, more fun. GO SMB!

Lucky break, they really cover the spread because they dominated the TNT in overtime. I think the final score is already 108-100, there are a few seconds left but SMB will already get this win. congratulations backers, SMB win, and covers.

Thanks to that error by Herndon, if not by that mistake SMB could have won by one point or TNT by a point or two depending if it's a three point shot or just a two.
I'm assuming you bet on SMB, well, the result favors you because they will not cover the spread if they win.
That's what you called luck on the gambler's side, TNT was very eager to beat the SMB but they fell short.

Another monster game by the Kraken, registering 27 points and 27 rebounds in a game, this could be a personal record for him or might be a PBA record if i'm not mistaken. When we look at it, seems like TNT has no match to the firepower of SMB but they just refuse to llet go and give the Beermen a good fight.

He is back on his MVP form (I must say), getting 27 rebounds is just a monster performance, I am not surprised with the points as anyone can generate that, but boy, getting both points and rebounds with high numbers, that's just unbelievable.
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August 26, 2022, 09:55:11 AM
I don't know what's really happens to TNT tonight as we saw that they do a good work but still did not enough to beat SMB, TNT can not handle fajardo well even though there's a time that pugoy blocked fajardo but still The rest of the SMB team did not let TNT lead the series they work smart and with a good communication and good teamwork they did it. Maybe TNT need more or big adjustment for upcoming game 4 so that they can even the series .

SMB deserved that win, Fajardo was in a beast mode that's why he was unstoppable. If SMB loses because of the mistake committed by Herndon, I'm sure the blame will be put on him, he should pay attention in a very crucial game, because one mistake could lead to losing the game and the effort will be wasted.
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August 26, 2022, 09:48:19 AM
I don't know what's really happens to TNT tonight as we saw that they do a good work but still did not enough to beat SMB, TNT can not handle fajardo well even though there's a time that pugoy blocked fajardo but still The rest of the SMB team did not let TNT lead the series they work smart and with a good communication and good teamwork they did it. Maybe TNT need more or big adjustment for upcoming game 4 so that they can even the series .
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August 26, 2022, 09:33:50 AM

Pogoy thus far is the most consistent on the TNT roster, but we know he cannot carry this team alone.  it was supposed to be Mikey Williams who is the top scorer.

SMB did a great job on Mikey Williams, though he still can score, but it's very evident how the was very limited in the game. Game 4 is very crucial for them, they already lose twice in a row, they should not allow to make it 3. A big adjustment is necessary, their 3 point shooting should hit because they cannot live in the paint since JMF is a beast inside both office and defense.
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August 26, 2022, 08:46:30 AM
Looks like TNT is not missing Chot Reyes, they are competing very well against the SMB. Anyone here knows the handicap in this game? I was too busy and forgot that there's a game today. If I was able to place my bet, I would still go with SMB.

It's -3.5 for San Miguel Beermen, not that high and very attractive if you are a fan of SMB but looking at the game right now it seems that whoever wins, will just have a lead of not more than 5 points because it's a close one not like in game 2 where SMB separated in the early minutes of the fourth quarter.

Okay, good thing I didn't bet, this game goes to OT because of a bad mistake.  Smiley

There's a chance that SMB will cover here, or TNT to win, Jayson Castro this time did not make the last shot attempt, he was defended well.
More extra minutes, more fun. GO SMB!

Lucky break, they really cover the spread because they dominated the TNT in overtime. I think the final score is already 108-100, there are a few seconds left but SMB will already get this win. congratulations backers, SMB win, and covers.

Thanks to that error by Herndon, if not by that mistake SMB could have won by one point or TNT by a point or two depending if it's a three point shot or just a two. Another monster game by the Kraken, registering 27 points and 27 rebounds in a game, this could be a personal record for him or might be a PBA record if i'm not mistaken. When we look at it, seems like TNT has no match to the firepower of SMB but they just refuse to llet go and give the Beermen a good fight.

When Fajardo is playing like that, there's no way TNT can beat the SMB in this series.

They are now ahead by 1 win, the series is 2-1 now, so let's see if TNT will be able to even the series in game 4. Still will be missing coach Chot I believe, but they have to play like it's the last game as if they will go down 3-1, their chance to win the series will be very slim.

It's still far from over, we still have game 4 and I have a feeling that TNT will win that game. I'm betting on the TNT, there's no way they will go down 3-1 in this series. I think Mikey Williams has to contribute more, though he had improve in this game as he tallied 17 points, from 7 points only in game 2, but it's not enough for the team to win.

Pogoy thus far is the most consistent on the TNT roster, but we know he cannot carry this team alone.  it was supposed to be Mikey Williams who is the top scorer.
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August 26, 2022, 08:34:59 AM
Looks like TNT is not missing Chot Reyes, they are competing very well against the SMB. Anyone here knows the handicap in this game? I was too busy and forgot that there's a game today. If I was able to place my bet, I would still go with SMB.

It's -3.5 for San Miguel Beermen, not that high and very attractive if you are a fan of SMB but looking at the game right now it seems that whoever wins, will just have a lead of not more than 5 points because it's a close one not like in game 2 where SMB separated in the early minutes of the fourth quarter.

Okay, good thing I didn't bet, this game goes to OT because of a bad mistake.  Smiley

There's a chance that SMB will cover here, or TNT to win, Jayson Castro this time did not make the last shot attempt, he was defended well.
More extra minutes, more fun. GO SMB!

Lucky break, they really cover the spread because they dominated the TNT in overtime. I think the final score is already 108-100, there are a few seconds left but SMB will already get this win. congratulations backers, SMB win, and covers.

Thanks to that error by Herndon, if not by that mistake SMB could have won by one point or TNT by a point or two depending if it's a three point shot or just a two. Another monster game by the Kraken, registering 27 points and 27 rebounds in a game, this could be a personal record for him or might be a PBA record if i'm not mistaken. When we look at it, seems like TNT has no match to the firepower of SMB but they just refuse to llet go and give the Beermen a good fight.

When Fajardo is playing like that, there's no way TNT can beat the SMB in this series.

They are now ahead by 1 win, the series is 2-1 now, so let's see if TNT will be able to even the series in game 4. Still will be missing coach Chot I believe, but they have to play like it's the last game as if they will go down 3-1, their chance to win the series will be very slim.
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August 26, 2022, 07:57:51 AM
Looks like TNT is not missing Chot Reyes, they are competing very well against the SMB. Anyone here knows the handicap in this game? I was too busy and forgot that there's a game today. If I was able to place my bet, I would still go with SMB.

It's -3.5 for San Miguel Beermen, not that high and very attractive if you are a fan of SMB but looking at the game right now it seems that whoever wins, will just have a lead of not more than 5 points because it's a close one not like in game 2 where SMB separated in the early minutes of the fourth quarter.

Okay, good thing I didn't bet, this game goes to OT because of a bad mistake.  Smiley

There's a chance that SMB will cover here, or TNT to win, Jayson Castro this time did not make the last shot attempt, he was defended well.
More extra minutes, more fun. GO SMB!

Lucky break, they really cover the spread because they dominated the TNT in overtime. I think the final score is already 108-100, there are a few seconds left but SMB will already get this win. congratulations backers, SMB win, and covers.

Thanks to that error by Herndon, if not by that mistake SMB could have won by one point or TNT by a point or two depending if it's a three point shot or just a two. Another monster game by the Kraken, registering 27 points and 27 rebounds in a game, this could be a personal record for him or might be a PBA record if i'm not mistaken. When we look at it, seems like TNT has no match to the firepower of SMB but they just refuse to llet go and give the Beermen a good fight.
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August 26, 2022, 07:46:51 AM
Looks like TNT is not missing Chot Reyes, they are competing very well against the SMB. Anyone here knows the handicap in this game? I was too busy and forgot that there's a game today. If I was able to place my bet, I would still go with SMB.

It's -3.5 for San Miguel Beermen, not that high and very attractive if you are a fan of SMB but looking at the game right now it seems that whoever wins, will just have a lead of not more than 5 points because it's a close one not like in game 2 where SMB separated in the early minutes of the fourth quarter.

Okay, good thing I didn't bet, this game goes to OT because of a bad mistake.  Smiley

There's a chance that SMB will cover here, or TNT to win, Jayson Castro this time did not make the last shot attempt, he was defended well.
More extra minutes, more fun. GO SMB!

Lucky break, they really cover the spread because they dominated the TNT in overtime. I think the final score is already 108-100, there are a few seconds left but SMB will already get this win. congratulations backers, SMB win, and covers.
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August 26, 2022, 07:27:24 AM
Looks like TNT is not missing Chot Reyes, they are competing very well against the SMB. Anyone here knows the handicap in this game? I was too busy and forgot that there's a game today. If I was able to place my bet, I would still go with SMB.

It's -3.5 for San Miguel Beermen, not that high and very attractive if you are a fan of SMB but looking at the game right now it seems that whoever wins, will just have a lead of not more than 5 points because it's a close one not like in game 2 where SMB separated in the early minutes of the fourth quarter.

Okay, good thing I didn't bet, this game goes to OT because of a bad mistake.  Smiley

There's a chance that SMB will cover here, or TNT to win, Jayson Castro this time did not make the last shot attempt, he was defended well.
More extra minutes, more fun. GO SMB!
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August 26, 2022, 06:52:10 AM
Looks like TNT is not missing Chot Reyes, they are competing very well against the SMB. Anyone here knows the handicap in this game? I was too busy and forgot that there's a game today. If I was able to place my bet, I would still go with SMB.

It's -3.5 for San Miguel Beermen, not that high and very attractive if you are a fan of SMB but looking at the game right now it seems that whoever wins, will just have a lead of not more than 5 points because it's a close one not like in game 2 where SMB separated in the early minutes of the fourth quarter.

edit: first overtime game of the finals, what a close and exciting game for those who bet haha.
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August 26, 2022, 06:22:30 AM
Looks like TNT is not missing Chot Reyes, they are competing very well against the SMB. Anyone here knows the handicap in this game? I was too busy and forgot that there's a game today. If I was able to place my bet, I would still go with SMB.
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August 26, 2022, 06:11:39 AM

Almost a win. Those who watched the game don't have to say anything against our squad. They do everything at their best, but
Lebanese really fought and defend their home-court pride!

At least this time the game is close, they need to make good adjustments next game, we cannot blame them because their chemistry is not that good. Some people are blaming coach Chot, well, I guess that's normal, as long as he stays with the Gilas as a coach, people will always see his mistakes.
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August 26, 2022, 01:14:30 AM
A close game by Gilas. Not bad against one of the top teams in Asia. Lebanon even said that the game was so tough and the Philippines gives them a competitive match. Jordan Clarkson slows down in the second half after becoming a scoring machine in the first half. He exceeded his usual playing time in the NBA. He played the entire second half of this game aside from more minutes he played in the half. Although he can, that is exhausting.

At least, they now see how their chemistry works. Hoping for an adjustment next game.
Lebanon is the one who fought Australia in the Fiba Asia Cup Finals 2022 so they are at the top right now so seeing Gilas losing by only 4 points to them is a net positive already.

Lack of preparation might be one of the reason why they lost because preparing for the big stage is very helpful for that chemistry to build up. Let's also add the fact that Clarkson really lose his hot shooting in the final minutes of the game.  If he only maintained that one then the Gilas has a chance. Turnovers is also a big factor as well because they got 21 turnovers against 9 from Lebanon. We know that the team who is turning the ball over many times tend to lose most of the time and that's what happened to Gilas.

Overall, it's a good game for the Gilas team and let's move on and focus on their next opponent which is Saudi Arabia which the Gilas is heavily favored. I'm expecting adjustments as well especially in their turnovers.

You observe well and that's true JC got exhausted I guess playing the whole 2nd half together with Kai, It's a great help from Aguilar and Ramos but ain't enough in terms of rotations, Just an opinion, Fajardo, Perez, Poguy and Erram if PBA only being considerate that might change the outcome of this game.

Though just like what the coach said, no need to win but to learn and hope that they will see this lapses and they will find ways to improve, I'm hoping for the best as having JC and Kai brings our National back to the respect of Asian basketball fans.

Almost a win. Those who watched the game don't have to say anything against our squad. They do everything at their best, but
Lebanese really fought and defend their home-court pride!
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August 25, 2022, 10:09:44 PM
A close game by Gilas. Not bad against one of the top teams in Asia. Lebanon even said that the game was so tough and the Philippines gives them a competitive match. Jordan Clarkson slows down in the second half after becoming a scoring machine in the first half. He exceeded his usual playing time in the NBA. He played the entire second half of this game aside from more minutes he played in the half. Although he can, that is exhausting.

At least, they now see how their chemistry works. Hoping for an adjustment next game.
Lebanon is the one who fought Australia in the Fiba Asia Cup Finals 2022 so they are at the top right now so seeing Gilas losing by only 4 points to them is a net positive already.

Lack of preparation might be one of the reason why they lost because preparing for the big stage is very helpful for that chemistry to build up. Let's also add the fact that Clarkson really lose his hot shooting in the final minutes of the game.  If he only maintained that one then the Gilas has a chance. Turnovers is also a big factor as well because they got 21 turnovers against 9 from Lebanon. We know that the team who is turning the ball over many times tend to lose most of the time and that's what happened to Gilas.

Overall, it's a good game for the Gilas team and let's move on and focus on their next opponent which is Saudi Arabia which the Gilas is heavily favored. I'm expecting adjustments as well especially in their turnovers.
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August 25, 2022, 06:59:15 PM
Well, we should not blame Coach Reyes alone, we should blame the system where are athletes didn't get much of a support from our own government.

Know your facts, mate. Basketball is even one of the sports that the government is giving so much support to.

Do you remember that just a month ago, some Senators form a triumvirate just to focus on Gilas?

Waste of time, waste of money in a sport where we know we have lots of disadvantages globally

That was a bullshit move for me wherein there are other sports that the Philippines is better. Basketball is not for us in Asian competitions, especially in International competitions. That's the reality that we need to accept. We just really love Basketball, that's it.
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August 25, 2022, 06:44:24 PM
A close game by Gilas. Not bad against one of the top teams in Asia. Lebanon even said that the game was so tough and the Philippines gives them a competitive match. Jordan Clarkson slows down in the second half after becoming a scoring machine in the first half. He exceeded his usual playing time in the NBA. He played the entire second half of this game aside from more minutes he played in the half. Although he can, that is exhausting.

At least, they now see how their chemistry works. Hoping for an adjustment next game.
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August 25, 2022, 06:03:08 PM
I don't get why coach Chot give so much time with Keifer much better to let Parks play and help JC and Dwight. Almost a win, but Lebanon really fought well. That big block of Kai helps Lebanon to seal the game. It's really annoying, but we can't ask for more from our Nationals. They try their best but the rotations is something is that really important.

Not enough rest for both Kai and JC, which really feel exhausted. They try to keep running, but the Lebanese are always there
and not giving them easy shots.

Congrats to Lebanon though and hopefully from hope the National fought today they'll lesson from it! Hope for the best!
Gilas still did a great job knowing that Lebanon is not an easy opponent, we fell short but still kudos to our players. We cannot blame the coaching staff anymore, since they did a great job it’s just that we are dealing with the Silver medalist and we can really say that Lebanon has improved a lot. Moving on into the next game, I’m pretty sure we have a better chance to win against our next opponent, so let’s continue to support them.

I was not able to watch the game live but I was able to check the box score and stats. It seems that turn over and 3 points is the cause of Gilas failure to win. Gilas commited 21 turnover against 9 from Lebanon. While lebanon have 31% 3 points percentage against 26 of Gilas. Other stats, Gilas dominated Lebanon. Too bad they were not able to convert those advantage to a win. I am sure Coach Reyes will get a lot of flak from social media, again, because of this.

Gilas next match is with Saudi Arabia. With this current lineup, I expect them to dominate that game
We are better compare to Saudi Arabia team so probably another high expectation for the Gilas on their next game.
Gilas against Lebanon was a great game, though we failed at least we know where to improve especially on creating good chemistry among the players which I think is our lack since they only trained for a week and that's not enough for an international competition. Well, we should not blame Coach Reyes alone, we should blame the system where are athletes didn't get much of a support from our own government.
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August 25, 2022, 05:26:42 PM
I don't get why coach Chot give so much time with Keifer much better to let Parks play and help JC and Dwight. Almost a win, but Lebanon really fought well. That big block of Kai helps Lebanon to seal the game. It's really annoying, but we can't ask for more from our Nationals. They try their best but the rotations is something is that really important.

Not enough rest for both Kai and JC, which really feel exhausted. They try to keep running, but the Lebanese are always there
and not giving them easy shots.

Congrats to Lebanon though and hopefully from hope the National fought today they'll lesson from it! Hope for the best!
Gilas still did a great job knowing that Lebanon is not an easy opponent, we fell short but still kudos to our players. We cannot blame the coaching staff anymore, since they did a great job it’s just that we are dealing with the Silver medalist and we can really say that Lebanon has improved a lot. Moving on into the next game, I’m pretty sure we have a better chance to win against our next opponent, so let’s continue to support them.

I was not able to watch the game live but I was able to check the box score and stats. It seems that turn over and 3 points is the cause of Gilas failure to win. Gilas commited 21 turnover against 9 from Lebanon. While lebanon have 31% 3 points percentage against 26 of Gilas. Other stats, Gilas dominated Lebanon. Too bad they were not able to convert those advantage to a win. I am sure Coach Reyes will get a lot of flak from social media, again, because of this.

Gilas next match is with Saudi Arabia. With this current lineup, I expect them to dominate that game
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August 25, 2022, 04:35:30 PM
I don't get why coach Chot give so much time with Keifer much better to let Parks play and help JC and Dwight. Almost a win, but Lebanon really fought well. That big block of Kai helps Lebanon to seal the game. It's really annoying, but we can't ask for more from our Nationals. They try their best but the rotations is something is that really important.

Not enough rest for both Kai and JC, which really feel exhausted. They try to keep running, but the Lebanese are always there
and not giving them easy shots.

Congrats to Lebanon though and hopefully from hope the National fought today they'll lesson from it! Hope for the best!
Gilas still did a great job knowing that Lebanon is not an easy opponent, we fell short but still kudos to our players. We cannot blame the coaching staff anymore, since they did a great job it’s just that we are dealing with the Silver medalist and we can really say that Lebanon has improved a lot. Moving on into the next game, I’m pretty sure we have a better chance to win against our next opponent, so let’s continue to support them.
The problem with our current system is politics, we know that there’s too much politics in basketball and we cannot expect too much from them if we still have this system. Its still a good game but of course a lose record can hurt our opportunity to proceed into the next round. Well, Lebanon is a strong team and they have a good connection while Gilas only trained for a week but still kudos for them for giving their hearts out. Gilas future is bright, the only problem is the system.
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