Topic: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 29. (Read 98540 times)

No contest about that MPBL is just second to PBA and it remains to be the most sought basketball league in our country. But if it's a comparison in Asia, I don't think that it's going to make it to the top. What PBA should do is to allow new teams to come. It's not easy to maintain a team and they know that another rich corporation is gonna take over that team and manage it. But what they're doing is not allowing it because the reigning of these sister companies and teams will be at stake.

That includes the TV5 and Cignal TV, that's why it's possible.

You are probably just watching from random Facebook streamers, but if you watch from their official Facebook channel, you can see that there are a lot of viewers tuning in, even though it's quite delayed compared to what we can see on TV.

I can confirm that because I always bet on the PBA games, so I am always looking for free live streaming.

Nah, they're just lying to themselves. He feel that the fans are dumb enough to believe on his statement, but we know the truth.
We know what's happening with the league. We know that 1 Million viewers per game isn't possible.

I've tried to watch PBA games online as well since we are living on a province. When the game isn't either MVP or SMC, the average number of viewers on Facebook is at around 2K at most. When it's either one of them, the average is around 5K maybe. If the game is between SMB and Ginebra, 10K might be the max. It's nowhere what Commissioner said that it's reaching 1M per game. He's lying obviously, and nobody wants to watch PBA games anymore (at least on person). That's the problem right now. People don't want to go anymore to the venue because they find the games boring because of lack of competition around the league, and because of that, their revenues are greatly affected.

Gone are the days where fans will just go there, and support their teams. Gone are the days where the arena is full even though it isn't playoffs. Gone are the days where teams are battling for the championship and gone are the days where we who are watching don't even know which team will win because of how balanced it is. As a PBA fan, this is truly heartbreaking.

True, the PBA is still the popular league in the Philippines as it has the backing of large corporation. Shifting PBA to the format of the MPBL will require lots of money and this maybe the reason why PBA have not adapted to the home and away format of the MPBL, logistics issue.

MBA has done it but due to financial constraint they failed to sustain their operation.

Although I believe that the MPBL is a good league, the PBA is still the most popular professional basketball league in the Philippines. Who can beat the PBA, which is run by the richest people in the Philippines? However, if they make a good move, like partnering with the MPBL to create one league, we would likely have a very competitive league that could compete with other leagues in Asia. The MPBL is good, but they lack exposure. The PBA could make that happen, perhaps by bringing the name PBA but adopting the same setup as the MPBL.

It's been so long that the PBA has been full of bashing and yet the higher ups don't have any feeling. That's fine, they're not on the loss on it but the teams.
SMC and MVP teams are just too generous for it and that's why they are just tolerating what's happening there. The real competition was gone and when Alaska got out, that's already one sign.
Good thing that there are other leagues already in the country that can be also said as a professional league. PBA is still a top notch but those talents that aren't discovered can play there.

I agree, but big changes like that needs always needs the approval of these two giant companies who have that control behind the decision making of the league managements, even there are many criticizm that already been brought out it's just simply being ignored as whatevr happened the managements still getting the money that they need just not sure how big is the favor behind the taxable benefits, more on the benefits and the favor that's why the reputation of the league and those people behind are already been compromised.

Hopefully they'll find ways to change something that will bring back the interest of most fans, not that just a funny 4point lane but a serious change that will bring decent competitions from each teams that involves.

I think it's happening in other leagues as well, but in the PBA, it's very obvious. That's why people keep criticizing the league, and yet they take no action about this. This would only prove that the management responsible for making changes is under the influence of the top teams' owners, who only follow what they are told to do.

If this setup were like the NBA, which I think the MPBL has followed, then most likely it would be growing, and changes would be made in a timely manner for the good of the league. However, as we all know based on the names of the teams, they are endorsing a product, so they play to make the product popular, and they are paid for that.

There's no doubt with that, there's always under the table that the commissioners who are approving the trades has something to do with it.
You're right, that they might be puppets of SMC and MVPs and that's why most of the good picks and trades are happening in them. Whilst for the other teams, they're just like trees and waiting for the good players to be harvested by these two. This is always the cycle, this has been happening for so many years and I was even young at that time then I am tired of seeing either MVP and SMC always at the finals.

Yeah right, it's just for claiming but converting that numbers into sales for sure fans are no longer that excited unless it's the Brgy that having the game though not that much but still got the numbers of support a loyal fans who really love seeing players and team who making their ways to keep that bond for the fans and viewers that keep the franchise as the number 1 fan base squad.

Yeah most of those online viewers use illegal streaming just being okay to watch or to monitor scores but not really paying attentions
more on the gambling side to monitor their bets.

If they could just revamp everything give good salaries then make PBA environment became more fair for each team then provably the interest of people will go back. But its like this scenario that we want to happen seems like impossible to come since this league has been manipulated by big companies in Philippines. I also guess salary is not only the goal of the young players to go abroad but also the level of competitiveness is different since they can enhance their skills than in PBA which most likely they sit only sit on Bench and they might show case their talents there.



Compare before they didn't do much unfair movements since maybe they cannot pass on past commissioners. But right now its like they installed their own workers and let those big teams to do what they want. We cannot expect anything bigger from them since they always made up crazy decision.

This 4-point shot has pros and cons based on one video that I've watched on Facebook.

One pro is that, no lead is safe... or I should say that anybody can just evaporate the lead quicker than we are seeing because of this implementation. I mean instead of only 9 points when the team shot 3 3-point shots, it will be 12 points, and we know how important a point is especially in close games. A point can separate both teams.

One con is that, we are getting away from FIBA. FIBA didn't even think of implementing this 4-point shot, and the PBA already did it? Even the PBA legends are against this one, and even Coach Tim Cone. Another con that I saw (based on the video I watched) is that, the game will be more boring because more and more shooters will opt to shoot for the 4-point area instead of 3, and since it's very far away, there might be more airball shots than going in. The game itself is boring already, now they're adding another one.

Quite ironic that they want PBA to be the top sports entertainment in Asia but they don't know how to stop SMC and MVP to milk other teams and getting their top trades.
They've been criticized, and as long as they will not make any significant changes with regards to the teams, the balance and the competition, I JUST HOPE THAT MORE PBA PLAYERS WILL PLAY OVERSEAS AND MAKE THE LEAGUE OUT THERE MORE POPULAR.

I do really hope that more and more young and talented players will opt to play overseas because PBA is just a boring league. Many especially those die hard PBA fans here might not agree with me, and I understand, but you know that the league is becoming more and more boring because of unbalanced trades, farming teams, etc. etc.

PBA draws nearly 1 million viewers per game


There is not problem with the number of viewers as it's a reality that the Filipinos are really a fun of basketball. However, the problem with them is that people are not anymore coming to the venue, that's why they cannot generate revenue from that. I think they should find a way to attract people from watching the venue as it's different when you are watching at your home and you are seeing a lot of fans supporting in the venue.

What do they get actually from the viewers online? Because online viewers mostly watch games through illegal streaming.

There's still hope for this oldest team in Asia, but significant change is unlikely if these two giants continue to control the league. We are all aware that SMC and the MVP group are the two team owners dominating the league. Consequently, the commissioners and the people running the league might just be puppets of these two entities. Therefore, the change we are hoping for will not happen unless it benefits them.  That's the real talk. 

Those criticisms towards them aren't wrong. And they need to take that for the wrong leadership that's being done to the league. It's been record that PBA is the oldest league in Asia and yet, instead of upgrading, they're keeping the traditional and even allowing teams to reign through favoring the trades from the farm team to SMC and MVP teams. Well, it's going to be a hard pill to swallow to the commissioners of it and even they will change some points system, that's not what the fans are looking for.

Haven't you noticed? They started bringing the attention of the crowd when Meralco won the championship in the All Filipino Cup. They weren't expected to win. In fact, before the finals, most of us probably thought that SMB would sweep them, but it didn't happen. I think if they could rig the game, they would. They have the refs to do the job, so it's very easy for them.

I guess in the next season, I would bet on the underdog, as most likely there will be some upsets. If my theory is right, they are trying to make weaker teams competitive, and they can use the refs to manipulate the game.

That's true, it became obvious as there are many social media critics that brought it out and fans interest is no longer active though there are still some who continue supporting their favorite players and teams but unlike before where you can see how the venue got a full-pack audiences from a different squad that will be playing,

 I guess they are trying to reach out and bring PBA from different location and show that there are still people who wants to watch them live.

But, as an observer bring them in inside araneta of even in a much smaller colliseum the numbers of attendace is far from those glorious years of PBA.

That's the first thing to consider, the disparity of the pay a player will receive playing overseas compared to the PBA.
JMF is probably he highest paid player in the PBA, but I believe other players playing overseas are even making more money than him, so that alone the PBA could not compare anymore, that's why I have no idea what came into their mind to come up with that unrealistic goal.


That monopoly has been for a decade IMO, it was just notice in the later years because people have became more active in social media interaction. And with that, I'm sure they read the comments from the real fans but they aren't making any actions about that, so we can't expect they'll grow as a league.

New raising talents now aim overseas because they see more better opportunity. Aside for getting quality minutes for their teams they can also get more bigger pay checks that's why lots of them decide to go abroad and accept the offers given to them.

PBA became more boring and their decisions made is not really appealing to the fans. Maybe they should stop those monopoly mindset if they want to see a good progress of the league, but I guess that's not going to happen if SMB and MVP group is there since they don't want their competitor would advertise their products to PBA and they want to manipulate the league so that everything will be in favor to them. Sad that PBA is not exciting the same as before and maybe we will see that in next few years we could see that PBA will collapsed.

Straight and precise and that's the sad reality and the reason also why new talents are no longer focus with PBA but instead they are aiming overseas as they can get bigger paychecks, though there's still opportunities for this league maybe if changes from the handlers will take place and those so obvious trades will be prevented and let those teams who are independent win a title or become a title contender not just a farm team a-like that will just continue to play to complete the list of the teams, the name of the league will remain but having that interest back,

that's something that really needs to work more, they need to bring excitement and entertainment and not just adding something that gain attention in a negative way, my point is having a 4point rainbow arc might not gives that excitement but the real competitions from each teams that in the list of franchise and not being dominated by selected squads.