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Quote from: Distinctin on August 05, 2024, 09:26:32 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on August 05, 2024, 01:24:21 AM

Exposures that can be use by both sides, for PBA it's a good fan base attractions, as per politicians sadly to say that there are voters who loves those kinds of strategy, bringing celebrities and taking the vote out from those viewers who will support the event.

The problem is that it seems they are protecting their TV network and want us to watch on TV rather than through online streaming. Why do I say that? It's very obvious—just look at their streaming; it's delayed.

Meanwhile, another big achievement for Justin Brownlee here.

Brownlee wins title anew, this time with Indonesian squad

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Justin Brownlee weaved his magic anew following a championship run with the Pelita Jaya in the Indonesia Basketball League over the weekend at the Indomilk Arena.

A six-time champion and three-time Best Import awardee with mother team Barangay Ginebra in the PBA, Brownlee added the IBL title to his resume by anchoring Pelita Jaya to a 73-65 win in the winner-take-all Game 3.

Yup, another title added to his resume, what a great player and after that title, he will be going back and will begin his practice or maybe Gin kings will provide decent time for him to relax and enjoy the celebration, but for sure he will be playing for the Gin kings and will start also practicing for team Gilas.

Let's just wait for the update for sure Gin kings will provide something good about his arrival, congrats kabayang JBL!

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 04, 2024, 06:45:23 PM

For me, to bring back the fans to watch the PBA they should adapt the style of MBA which is the home and away format so that those in the province will have a chance to watch the games live in person. They can't expect the same individuals watching games of the PBA on the same venue. Adding more teams will also help but not teams that will become farm teams for the big companies, independent teams that could stand on its own and compete with the teams of SMB and MVP.

That's a good idea, as nowadays, people are more interested in watching basketball. There's no problem with broadcasting the game since they have the TV station owned by the MP group, or if they don't use it, they can just do live streaming through facebook and youtube, which is less costly. What they have to ensure is the venue, something that is secure and convenient for the players. They need to allocate a budget for that and maybe seek help from the local government for additional funding. It's really possible if they consider that idea, but if not, it will remain in the same format.

Yeah right, and since that the timing is perfect knowing how politics runs in our country if they will going to adopt that same kind of formatting, they can easily coordinate the schedule from the town governors or mayors as they can easily get an access to the place, they can earn thru sporsoships or with the local government itself who wanted to bring entertainment to their fellowmen.

I'm sure they are good at that, as they handle some politics in the PBA as well. However, thinking about it is not enough; if no action is taken, it will still be useless. As fans, all we can do is voice our suggestions to help make the league more interesting to watch, but unfortunately, it's not as engaging anymore. It's a sad truth.

Quote from: Fredomago on August 05, 2024, 01:24:21 AM

Exposures that can be use by both sides, for PBA it's a good fan base attractions, as per politicians sadly to say that there are voters who loves those kinds of strategy, bringing celebrities and taking the vote out from those viewers who will support the event.

The problem is that it seems they are protecting their TV network and want us to watch on TV rather than through online streaming. Why do I say that? It's very obvious—just look at their streaming; it's delayed.

Meanwhile, another big achievement for Justin Brownlee here.

Brownlee wins title anew, this time with Indonesian squad

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Justin Brownlee weaved his magic anew following a championship run with the Pelita Jaya in the Indonesia Basketball League over the weekend at the Indomilk Arena.

A six-time champion and three-time Best Import awardee with mother team Barangay Ginebra in the PBA, Brownlee added the IBL title to his resume by anchoring Pelita Jaya to a 73-65 win in the winner-take-all Game 3.

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Quote from: Distinctin on August 05, 2024, 12:18:12 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on August 04, 2024, 06:45:23 PM

For me, to bring back the fans to watch the PBA they should adapt the style of MBA which is the home and away format so that those in the province will have a chance to watch the games live in person. They can't expect the same individuals watching games of the PBA on the same venue. Adding more teams will also help but not teams that will become farm teams for the big companies, independent teams that could stand on its own and compete with the teams of SMB and MVP.

That's a good idea, as nowadays, people are more interested in watching basketball. There's no problem with broadcasting the game since they have the TV station owned by the MP group, or if they don't use it, they can just do live streaming through facebook and youtube, which is less costly. What they have to ensure is the venue, something that is secure and convenient for the players. They need to allocate a budget for that and maybe seek help from the local government for additional funding. It's really possible if they consider that idea, but if not, it will remain in the same format.

Yeah right, and since that the timing is perfect knowing how politics runs in our country if they will going to adopt that same kind of formatting, they can easily coordinate the schedule from the town governors or mayors as they can easily get an access to the place, they can earn thru sporsoships or with the local government itself who wanted to bring entertainment to their fellowmen.

Exposures that can be use by both sides, for PBA it's a good fan base attractions, as per politicians sadly to say that there are voters who loves those kinds of strategy, bringing celebrities and taking the vote out from those viewers who will support the event.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 04, 2024, 06:45:23 PM

For me, to bring back the fans to watch the PBA they should adapt the style of MBA which is the home and away format so that those in the province will have a chance to watch the games live in person. They can't expect the same individuals watching games of the PBA on the same venue. Adding more teams will also help but not teams that will become farm teams for the big companies, independent teams that could stand on its own and compete with the teams of SMB and MVP.

That's a good idea, as nowadays, people are more interested in watching basketball. There's no problem with broadcasting the game since they have the TV station owned by the MP group, or if they don't use it, they can just do live streaming through facebook and youtube, which is less costly. What they have to ensure is the venue, something that is secure and convenient for the players. They need to allocate a budget for that and maybe seek help from the local government for additional funding. It's really possible if they consider that idea, but if not, it will remain in the same format.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 04, 2024, 11:38:39 AM

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 03, 2024, 12:34:39 PM

It's tough to compete if JBL will be consider as naturalized player who can play inside PBA that will let him play as normal pinoy player, same with that sentiment it will going to be a 2 import team and with the skills and talent of JBL together with the whole squad of the Gin kings, it will be heavy favorite and will have that good dominance as the opposing team will compete against two imports, but for sure JBL will only play as import and nothing else.

That would not save the PBA. As they posted before, they want to be the best in Asia, so they have to make decisions that will excite the fans, not decisions that will lead to fans criticizing them for just making a few teams better while the others are trash. What they need to do is make it a balanced league, and that can only be achieved if they welcome more teams to participate and eliminate farm teams. Farm teams and sister teams make the PBA boring. A drastic change is necessary, and they have to act on it very soon while they still have fans following them.

I agree, though in terms of fans they can attract some as there's still loyal fans of Gin kings but overall it's better to have adjustments that will benefits everyone and not just some who already got a huge advantage, if they wanted to be recognize as in Asia they need to bring real competitions, I mean teams that capable in developing talents and not just SMC and MVP who can acquire and spend money for players who got the potentials.

Adding more teams who are also capable to pay those big companies who can bring new sets of talents or a combinations which the owners can really in-line with Mon and Boss Manny.

For me, to bring back the fans to watch the PBA they should adapt the style of MBA which is the home and away format so that those in the province will have a chance to watch the games live in person. They can't expect the same individuals watching games of the PBA on the same venue. Adding more teams will also help but not teams that will become farm teams for the big companies, independent teams that could stand on its own and compete with the teams of SMB and MVP.

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Quote from: Distinctin on August 04, 2024, 06:48:41 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on August 03, 2024, 12:34:39 PM

It's tough to compete if JBL will be consider as naturalized player who can play inside PBA that will let him play as normal pinoy player, same with that sentiment it will going to be a 2 import team and with the skills and talent of JBL together with the whole squad of the Gin kings, it will be heavy favorite and will have that good dominance as the opposing team will compete against two imports, but for sure JBL will only play as import and nothing else.

That would not save the PBA. As they posted before, they want to be the best in Asia, so they have to make decisions that will excite the fans, not decisions that will lead to fans criticizing them for just making a few teams better while the others are trash. What they need to do is make it a balanced league, and that can only be achieved if they welcome more teams to participate and eliminate farm teams. Farm teams and sister teams make the PBA boring. A drastic change is necessary, and they have to act on it very soon while they still have fans following them.

I agree, though in terms of fans they can attract some as there's still loyal fans of Gin kings but overall it's better to have adjustments that will benefits everyone and not just some who already got a huge advantage, if they wanted to be recognize as in Asia they need to bring real competitions, I mean teams that capable in developing talents and not just SMC and MVP who can acquire and spend money for players who got the potentials.

Adding more teams who are also capable to pay those big companies who can bring new sets of talents or a combinations which the owners can really in-line with Mon and Boss Manny.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 03, 2024, 12:34:39 PM

It's tough to compete if JBL will be consider as naturalized player who can play inside PBA that will let him play as normal pinoy player, same with that sentiment it will going to be a 2 import team and with the skills and talent of JBL together with the whole squad of the Gin kings, it will be heavy favorite and will have that good dominance as the opposing team will compete against two imports, but for sure JBL will only play as import and nothing else.

That would not save the PBA. As they posted before, they want to be the best in Asia, so they have to make decisions that will excite the fans, not decisions that will lead to fans criticizing them for just making a few teams better while the others are trash. What they need to do is make it a balanced league, and that can only be achieved if they welcome more teams to participate and eliminate farm teams. Farm teams and sister teams make the PBA boring. A drastic change is necessary, and they have to act on it very soon while they still have fans following them.

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Quote from: Distinctin on August 03, 2024, 02:51:48 AM

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Quote from: blockman on August 02, 2024, 04:31:33 PM

JB shouldn't be an import anymore, he's naturalized already right? I don't know how the rules will play for PBA but if someone has played for the national team, he should get that naturalized treatment and won't be an import anymore. Anyway, he's the one that makes the games exciting due to his contributions to the national team.

I think that would create a big difference for other teams as JB is just too good. If they consider him a local, they can add an import, making them unbeatable. I think they understand the situation, and it's not fun if Ginebra will easily dominate because they have an import besides Brownlee. The list is already official, so we have to stick with that. After all, the PBA is for entertainment, and seeing one team dominate the others is not entertaining anymore.

It's like having double imports, so no team could match them unless they also have 2 imports, which isn't allowed. They should not use technicalities here to take advantage. One import per team should be the rule, and despite Brownlee being a naturalized player, he is still considered an import. The season will resume soon, and I'm sure you guys are already anticipating a good start as normally, during the early season, there are lots of upsets that happen.

It's tough to compete if JBL will be consider as naturalized player who can play inside PBA that will let him play as normal pinoy player, same with that sentiment it will going to be a 2 import team and with the skills and talent of JBL together with the whole squad of the Gin kings, it will be heavy favorite and will have that good dominance as the opposing team will compete against two imports, but for sure JBL will only play as import and nothing else.

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Quote from: Maslate on August 03, 2024, 01:01:25 AM

Quote from: blockman on August 02, 2024, 04:31:33 PM

JB shouldn't be an import anymore, he's naturalized already right? I don't know how the rules will play for PBA but if someone has played for the national team, he should get that naturalized treatment and won't be an import anymore. Anyway, he's the one that makes the games exciting due to his contributions to the national team.

I think that would create a big difference for other teams as JB is just too good. If they consider him a local, they can add an import, making them unbeatable. I think they understand the situation, and it's not fun if Ginebra will easily dominate because they have an import besides Brownlee. The list is already official, so we have to stick with that. After all, the PBA is for entertainment, and seeing one team dominate the others is not entertaining anymore.

Yes, the list is already official and true to that they will become a formidable team if JB becomes a local since he's really is now plus with another import that the Ginebra will get. Anyway, that's true that PBA is for entertainment and SMC teams are just doing it for the sake of the fans as RSA said that many will get mad against them if they will halt the teams that are part of the PBA.

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Quote from: Maslate on August 03, 2024, 01:01:25 AM

Quote from: blockman on August 02, 2024, 04:31:33 PM

JB shouldn't be an import anymore, he's naturalized already right? I don't know how the rules will play for PBA but if someone has played for the national team, he should get that naturalized treatment and won't be an import anymore. Anyway, he's the one that makes the games exciting due to his contributions to the national team.

I think that would create a big difference for other teams as JB is just too good. If they consider him a local, they can add an import, making them unbeatable. I think they understand the situation, and it's not fun if Ginebra will easily dominate because they have an import besides Brownlee. The list is already official, so we have to stick with that. After all, the PBA is for entertainment, and seeing one team dominate the others is not entertaining anymore.

It's like having double imports, so no team could match them unless they also have 2 imports, which isn't allowed. They should not use technicalities here to take advantage. One import per team should be the rule, and despite Brownlee being a naturalized player, he is still considered an import. The season will resume soon, and I'm sure you guys are already anticipating a good start as normally, during the early season, there are lots of upsets that happen.

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Quote from: blockman on August 02, 2024, 04:31:33 PM

JB shouldn't be an import anymore, he's naturalized already right? I don't know how the rules will play for PBA but if someone has played for the national team, he should get that naturalized treatment and won't be an import anymore. Anyway, he's the one that makes the games exciting due to his contributions to the national team.

I think that would create a big difference for other teams as JB is just too good. If they consider him a local, they can add an import, making them unbeatable. I think they understand the situation, and it's not fun if Ginebra will easily dominate because they have an import besides Brownlee. The list is already official, so we have to stick with that. After all, the PBA is for entertainment, and seeing one team dominate the others is not entertaining anymore.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 01, 2024, 08:05:49 PM

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Quote from: Russlenat on August 01, 2024, 05:22:51 PM

Do you guys have an idea when the PBA will resume? It was reported it will be this month, but no exact date yet.

I'm not sure about that but what I've read somewhere around August 18, 2024.

It's good to know that we have a definite date for the opening of the Governor's cup in the PBA.

That's what I have read but hopefully that's the date that everyone is waiting for.

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For those who have no idea on who will be the imports this coming Governor's cup, please see below and let me know your assessments on each import. Justine Brownlee and Durham are the only imports i have know on this list.

JB shouldn't be an import anymore, he's naturalized already right? I don't know how the rules will play for PBA but if someone has played for the national team, he should get that naturalized treatment and won't be an import anymore. Anyway, he's the one that makes the games exciting due to his contributions to the national team.

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Quote from: Distinctin on August 02, 2024, 07:58:31 AM

However, even if Brownlee might miss some of the team's practice, it will not be a problem as he already know how to play with the teams style. As long as Brownlee will not be injured, he'll be good to go in the start of the regular season.

I agree to that, even he missed some of those practices it won't change a thing as he already familiar with how the system works for coach Tim and knowing JBL he always find the best from his teammates, even it's expected to have new young stars that will be playing alongside of him for sure adjustments is not hard for everyone.

By the way, I just check some Highlights of SMB new import a 2-way player who got some skills not sure but basing from his youtube highlights seems he can give some decent numbers for his team, though it's known that SMB is not a team to beat when JBL is around I'm just curious if how caoch george will play his squad, I'm hoping to see a healthier TR7 it's been a while maybe that rest is enough for him
to have that decent minutes again.

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It's good to know that we have a definite date for the opening of the Governor's cup in the PBA. For those who have no idea on who will be the imports this coming Governor's cup, please see below and let me know your assessments on each import. Justine Brownlee and Durham are the only imports i have know on this list.
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We will not wait for long because it will open soon. After Brownlee plays in the Finals with his current team, he'll go directly to the Philippines to play with his team. Judging by the imports in the photo, I didn't see anyone who could match Brownlee's skills except for Durham, so that should be an awaited match-up. Hopefully, there are surprises so this league will become more interesting.

He won't be coming back anytime soon as the finals just finished the game 1, and Brownlee's team losses.
Brownlee, Pelita Jaya fall to Satria Muda in IBL Finals Game One

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Brownlee shot 4-of-9 from threes but his effort was not enough as Pelita Jaya moved one defeat away from losing the finals series against Satria Muda.

Game Two is scheduled on Saturday at the Indoor Stadium SC.

However, even if Brownlee might miss some of the team's practice, it will not be a problem as he already know how to play with the teams style. As long as Brownlee will not be injured, he'll be good to go in the start of the regular season.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 01, 2024, 08:05:49 PM

It's good to know that we have a definite date for the opening of the Governor's cup in the PBA. For those who have no idea on who will be the imports this coming Governor's cup, please see below and let me know your assessments on each import. Justine Brownlee and Durham are the only imports i have know on this list.
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We will not wait for long because it will open soon. After Brownlee plays in the Finals with his current team, he'll go directly to the Philippines to play with his team. Judging by the imports in the photo, I didn't see anyone who could match Brownlee's skills except for Durham, so that should be an awaited match-up. Hopefully, there are surprises so this league will become more interesting.

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Quote from: Russlenat on August 01, 2024, 05:22:51 PM

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But the majority didn't like it.

I think this is somehow true. I mean, it's a new rule, quite interesting, but does it really bring some fun or major excitement to the fans? They should focus on the bigger problem, and for sure they know it but have not decided to act on it because it has already rooted, which is now like the foundation of the PBA. Anyway, too much about that. Do you guys have an idea when the PBA will resume? It was reported it will be this month, but no exact date yet.

Seems that they just need to divert the attention so even it's not for the betterment of the league they successfully gain interest as fans and those so-called writers and vloggers are talking about this new rules, I seen a social post that coaches are aware and they are all embracing that one there's no problem adopting it.

By the way guys, Converge made a statement about parting ways with caoch Ayo just read it somewhere from a social media post, I guess the timing is quite interesting almost the start of the upcoming season and they manage to get Balti, I was in that impression that Converge will start bringing players to be more competitive.

Let see if how the team will perform after that separation between the young coach and the whole squad, for sure the replacement is someone who also inside that will be a caretaker while looking for a new one.

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Quote from: blockman on August 01, 2024, 06:05:31 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on August 01, 2024, 05:22:51 PM

Do you guys have an idea when the PBA will resume? It was reported it will be this month, but no exact date yet.

I'm not sure about that but what I've read somewhere around August 18, 2024.

It's good to know that we have a definite date for the opening of the Governor's cup in the PBA. For those who have no idea on who will be the imports this coming Governor's cup, please see below and let me know your assessments on each import. Justine Brownlee and Durham are the only imports i have know on this list.

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Quote from: Russlenat on August 01, 2024, 05:22:51 PM

Quote from: blockman on August 01, 2024, 04:17:25 PM

But the majority didn't like it.

I think this is somehow true. I mean, it's a new rule, quite interesting,

That's really the fact there kabayan because of how the coaches have reacted especially Yeng Guiao who's got the personality that we all know. But him and the other coaches can't do anything about it but to adopt the new ruling about this point system.

Quote from: Russlenat on August 01, 2024, 05:22:51 PM

but does it really bring some fun or major excitement to the fans? They should focus on the bigger problem, and for sure they know it but have not decided to act on it because it has already rooted, which is now like the foundation of the PBA. Anyway, too much about that.

They're aware of the bigger problem here and this is just like a way to divert the issue about having farm teams and such. They think that the fans will like it but let's give it a chance wait how it will go.

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Quote from: blockman on August 01, 2024, 04:17:25 PM

But the majority didn't like it.

I think this is somehow true. I mean, it's a new rule, quite interesting,

That's really the fact there kabayan because of how the coaches have reacted especially Yeng Guiao who's got the personality that we all know. But him and the other coaches can't do anything about it but to adopt the new ruling about this point system.

Quote from: Russlenat on August 01, 2024, 05:22:51 PM

Do you guys have an idea when the PBA will resume? It was reported it will be this month, but no exact date yet.

I'm not sure about that but what I've read somewhere around August 18, 2024.

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Quote from: blockman on August 01, 2024, 04:17:25 PM

But the majority didn't like it.

I think this is somehow true. I mean, it's a new rule, quite interesting, but does it really bring some fun or major excitement to the fans? They should focus on the bigger problem, and for sure they know it but have not decided to act on it because it has already rooted, which is now like the foundation of the PBA. Anyway, too much about that. Do you guys have an idea when the PBA will resume? It was reported it will be this month, but no exact date yet.

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I think so for Marcio. Another one is Jeff Chan but I've seen some headline today that there might be some issues against his contract. I haven't gone through the details but there are a lot of those oldies but goodies or veterans that will certainly benefit from this range. Some coaches have also said that they weren't asked for this topic to get discussed before it was reported and implemented by the PBA boards, they weren't asked for consultation on what they think about it and was surprised that it has become a new rule.

The PBA might be trying to set an example by implementing the 4-point play rule, hoping it could inspire other leagues, including the NBA, to consider similar changes. Even though the NBA, the most popular basketball league globally, has not yet implemented this rule despite previous rumors, the PBA can take pride in being the first to adopt it.

In my opinion, this rule change won't significantly alter the league dynamics as the PBA is still dominated by a few teams owned by major companies. Real growth in the PBA will come when they address and eliminate this monopoly, creating a more competitive and balanced league.

I don't think that's their main reason, they just want to change something so that the fans will be interested on it. But the majority didn't like it. It's nice to have for the all star weekend but not with the actual games of the league. I won't be surprised if our own league becomes a laughing stock globally just like how North Korean points system does have.

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