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Quote from: Viscore on July 13, 2024, 08:47:40 AM

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AFAIK, CStand will go to Magnolia after this trade with Terra Firma.

Good plan if that's going to happen. No worries for them, as C. Stand will just go to their sister team, which will likely win a championship with C. Stand on the team since it's full of veterans, and they just need someone who can dominate the paint. I guess there's really a big plan behind that trade; it seems like C. Stand will not just end up with this farm team, Terrafirma. Clever move.

That's what I've read in some scoop about this trade.

Quote from: Distinctin on July 14, 2024, 07:42:26 AM

I thought I should post this news as I'm sure as a PBA fans we know him guys.

So here's the bad news.
Chino Trinidad, crusading sports journalist, dies aged 56

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His daughter, Floresse Trinidad, announced Trinidad's death via his former home network GMA on Sunday. His family said the broadcaster was on his way to Newport World Resorts for a meeting when he suffered a heart attack.

We will be missing him as he is a good commentator but I'm sure he will always be remembered.
Condolence to him and to his family.

Very sad news. Chino Trinidad is very well respected and one of those real people that has concern in the Philippine sports. He's the one who spoke about the Gilas U17 roster. RIP Chino, I'll no longer hear your voice in your sports news report.

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I thought I should post this news as I'm sure as a PBA fans we know him guys.

So here's the bad news.
Chino Trinidad, crusading sports journalist, dies aged 56

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His daughter, Floresse Trinidad, announced Trinidad's death via his former home network GMA on Sunday. His family said the broadcaster was on his way to Newport World Resorts for a meeting when he suffered a heart attack.

We will be missing him as he is a good commentator but I'm sure he will always be remembered.
Condolence to him and to his family.

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Quote from: Viscore on July 13, 2024, 08:47:40 AM

Quote from: blockman on July 13, 2024, 06:55:36 AM

AFAIK, CStand will go to Magnolia after this trade with Terra Firma.

Good plan if that's going to happen. No worries for them, as C. Stand will just go to their sister team, which will likely win a championship with C. Stand on the team since it's full of veterans, and they just need someone who can dominate the paint. I guess there's really a big plan behind that trade; it seems like C. Stand will not just end up with this farm team, Terrafirma. Clever move.

Possible if Al francis Chua will work on it, but as of this moment we can't tell if there's a plan for him to be trade again, both Him and Pringle needs to keep those numbers if they want to stay, I mean after being traded to a farm team most of the time the player start to decrease the value of his game or start to think leaving the league and play either overseas or to another league that will give him to showcase his talents.

Not sure what happened but I was in the impression that he will stay as Japeth might be in his retiring stage, we really can't say what players fate when trades take place.

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Quote from: blockman on July 13, 2024, 06:55:36 AM

AFAIK, CStand will go to Magnolia after this trade with Terra Firma.

Good plan if that's going to happen. No worries for them, as C. Stand will just go to their sister team, which will likely win a championship with C. Stand on the team since it's full of veterans, and they just need someone who can dominate the paint. I guess there's really a big plan behind that trade; it seems like C. Stand will not just end up with this farm team, Terrafirma. Clever move.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 12, 2024, 09:43:31 PM

I'm not posting that much with regards to the PBA or watch PBA games because the league is becoming a duopoly between SMC and MVP, and that's what I hate about the current management. They've constantly being criticized because of lop-sided trades or unfair trades and this latest one is just insane.

Barangay Ginebra and Terra Firma are trading some of their key players and draft picks. Here's the whole trade info.

Barangay Ginebra receives:
- Stephen Holt
- Isaac Go
- 2024 1st round pick (#3)

Terra Firma receives:
- Christian Standhardinger
- Stanley Pringle
- 2024 1st round pick (#10)

I can still remember the time when Stephen Holt really hated these lop-sided trades, and now he's been included in a what I consider as a one-sided trade. Why? Their performance. Terra Firma became a farming team for the Ginebra, and this is why these independent teams will continue as the bottom teams while MVP and SMC are milking them. Just for context, I'm an SMB fan for years now, even since Fajardo isn't playing for them yet, but these kinds of trades really suck, and made the league very boring. The competition isn't there anymore, and for sure many will agree with me.

What's your opinion on this trade? I'm pretty sure Ginebra fans out there are happy to get these 2 talented players.

Ginebra is wise, they're always like this. They've already used CStand and Pringle and they'd go with the younger talents.
Nothing new for me, but this is always the case. AFAIK, CStand will go to Magnolia after this trade with Terra Firma.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 12, 2024, 09:43:31 PM

What's your opinion on this trade? I'm pretty sure Ginebra fans out there are happy to get these 2 talented players.

Pringle getting traded is fine, but I think it's a big loss for Ginebra to trade C. Stand, as he has won championships with Ginebra already. However, I'm surprised by this trade; it seems like the PBA is trying to form a balanced league now, so C. Stand with this young team would help them grow. If I recall correctly, before a big man from Ginebra was also traded, Greg Slaughter, and after the trade, his interest in playing in the PBA was gone, and he chose to play overseas. This year he was back but already playing with the MPBL. I don't want that to happen to C. Stand.

However, related to the news, it seems like C. Stand was the one requesting for the trade, so I guess that's fine afterall.

https://mb.com.ph/2024/7/13/cone-says-c-stand-prefers-to-play-a-different-system

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Kings have granted the request of the 6-foot-9 big man to play for another system and coach.

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I'm not posting that much with regards to the PBA or watch PBA games because the league is becoming a duopoly between SMC and MVP, and that's what I hate about the current management. They've constantly being criticized because of lop-sided trades or unfair trades and this latest one is just insane.

Barangay Ginebra and Terra Firma are trading some of their key players and draft picks. Here's the whole trade info.

Barangay Ginebra receives:
- Stephen Holt
- Isaac Go
- 2024 1st round pick (#3)

Terra Firma receives:
- Christian Standhardinger
- Stanley Pringle
- 2024 1st round pick (#10)

I can still remember the time when Stephen Holt really hated these lop-sided trades, and now he's been included in a what I consider as a one-sided trade. Why? Their performance. Terra Firma became a farming team for the Ginebra, and this is why these independent teams will continue as the bottom teams while MVP and SMC are milking them. Just for context, I'm an SMB fan for years now, even since Fajardo isn't playing for them yet, but these kinds of trades really suck, and made the league very boring. The competition isn't there anymore, and for sure many will agree with me.

What's your opinion on this trade? I'm pretty sure Ginebra fans out there are happy to get these 2 talented players.

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Quote from: Finestream on July 12, 2024, 02:57:05 AM

If this guy will be drafted, how long do you think he'll play with the PBA?

Nearly 40, Marko Villaronte tries luck as oldest PBA Draft hopeful

Maybe 1-2 seasons only and then he'll get no more contract or should he stay, schools in NCAA or UAAP can get him as assistant coaching staff. But I wish him well because not all players are good for playing during matches. IIRC, there's one player from Ginebra and being used as their practice player so, he can be like that as well.

Quote from: Finestream on July 12, 2024, 02:57:05 AM

Some retires early before they reach the age of 40, but this guy is nearing 40 and yet still wants to play with the PBA. This is a rare news but I like to see the PBA give him a chance, maybe play with a strong team so he'll win a championship, LOL.

Do you have an idea on what team he is playing with, and how he played? Sorry, I haven't made a lot of research about this guy, that's why I'm just asking.

There have been some mock drafts but I only see 12 drafts on them. I'm not sure which team is likely to pick him.
Anyway, Dwight Howard is in our country and I've seen some posts that his interest of joining a PBA team is still there. Come on, rich politicians and team owners, let Dwight bring back the interest of PBA fans. Tongue

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If this guy will be drafted, how long do you think he'll play with the PBA?

Nearly 40, Marko Villaronte tries luck as oldest PBA Draft hopeful

Some retires early before they reach the age of 40, but this guy is nearing 40 and yet still wants to play with the PBA. This is a rare news but I like to see the PBA give him a chance, maybe play with a strong team so he'll win a championship, LOL.

Do you have an idea on what team he is playing with, and how he played? Sorry, I haven't made a lot of research about this guy, that's why I'm just asking.

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Quote from: Viscore on July 11, 2024, 07:56:29 AM

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But anyways this is so good development since we could see now that Philippines basketball program is now doing so well and also the players are gaining fame on international scene especially Brownlee who got a lot of recognition which provably could help to get a better more career on basketball.

Very big development in just a short time, it seems like magic when Tim Cone assumed the job. He flipped the fate of the team. Now, we are in the top 3 in the FIBA Asia ranking, and I can see that we will just keep improving over time. Brownlee sacrificed a lot to get us to where we are now. Hopefully, in the future, he will be joined by our brothers in the NBA, like Jordan Clarkson and Jalen Green. That would be awesome, as our pure-blooded Filipinos will gain more confidence and will surely get better as well.

As far as the rule's concern having both Green, Clarkson and Brownlee won't going to work, just one of them in case both Green and Clarkson will show their interest but I guess that two NBA stars will not be fit with how CTC developed his program, unlike with JBL where playing all around , Green and Clarkson are playing with the ball.

But yeah, if by chance the rule change and both Green and Clarkson will play for our flag that power ranking might continue or who knows we might reach the top.

I think it's easy to make them adapt to the style of CTC. What's important here is the NBA talent they have, as they would never be in the NBA if they weren't good. I can't imagine seeing both on the team; that would easily put our team in the top 10 in the worldwide ranking. But like you mentioned, it's the rules that don't allow them to join, so even if they are eager, it will still be unlikely to happen.

I think we need to develop a full-blooded Filipino to be an NBA player so out team will mprove more. The only one I can see now is Kai Sotto. I'm not sure why he didn't apply for the draft this year.

Yeah right, if we can develop a full blooded NBA star then we don't need to worry about the rules, though like you mentioned Kai is the one who's got that potential but he didn't apply though we don't know what his future plans but for sure he will not stop trying it, with how he impacted the OQT games I guess without any major injuries that will take place he can develop more on his talent, just need to work harder and build more muscles.. hehehe but kidding aside hopefully he'll be able to bring our flag as the first full blooded pinoy in the NBA.

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Quote from: Maslate on July 11, 2024, 05:43:29 AM

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But anyways this is so good development since we could see now that Philippines basketball program is now doing so well and also the players are gaining fame on international scene especially Brownlee who got a lot of recognition which provably could help to get a better more career on basketball.

Very big development in just a short time, it seems like magic when Tim Cone assumed the job. He flipped the fate of the team. Now, we are in the top 3 in the FIBA Asia ranking, and I can see that we will just keep improving over time. Brownlee sacrificed a lot to get us to where we are now. Hopefully, in the future, he will be joined by our brothers in the NBA, like Jordan Clarkson and Jalen Green. That would be awesome, as our pure-blooded Filipinos will gain more confidence and will surely get better as well.

As far as the rule's concern having both Green, Clarkson and Brownlee won't going to work, just one of them in case both Green and Clarkson will show their interest but I guess that two NBA stars will not be fit with how CTC developed his program, unlike with JBL where playing all around , Green and Clarkson are playing with the ball.

But yeah, if by chance the rule change and both Green and Clarkson will play for our flag that power ranking might continue or who knows we might reach the top.

I think it's easy to make them adapt to the style of CTC. What's important here is the NBA talent they have, as they would never be in the NBA if they weren't good. I can't imagine seeing both on the team; that would easily put our team in the top 10 in the worldwide ranking. But like you mentioned, it's the rules that don't allow them to join, so even if they are eager, it will still be unlikely to happen.

I think we need to develop a full-blooded Filipino to be an NBA player so out team will mprove more. The only one I can see now is Kai Sotto. I'm not sure why he didn't apply for the draft this year.

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Quote from: Maslate on July 11, 2024, 05:43:29 AM

Quote from: arwin100 on July 11, 2024, 05:11:21 AM

But anyways this is so good development since we could see now that Philippines basketball program is now doing so well and also the players are gaining fame on international scene especially Brownlee who got a lot of recognition which provably could help to get a better more career on basketball.

Very big development in just a short time, it seems like magic when Tim Cone assumed the job. He flipped the fate of the team. Now, we are in the top 3 in the FIBA Asia ranking, and I can see that we will just keep improving over time. Brownlee sacrificed a lot to get us to where we are now. Hopefully, in the future, he will be joined by our brothers in the NBA, like Jordan Clarkson and Jalen Green. That would be awesome, as our pure-blooded Filipinos will gain more confidence and will surely get better as well.

As far as the rule's concern having both Green, Clarkson and Brownlee won't going to work, just one of them in case both Green and Clarkson will show their interest but I guess that two NBA stars will not be fit with how CTC developed his program, unlike with JBL where playing all around , Green and Clarkson are playing with the ball.

But yeah, if by chance the rule change and both Green and Clarkson will play for our flag that power ranking might continue or who knows we might reach the top.

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Quote from: arwin100 on July 11, 2024, 05:11:21 AM

But anyways this is so good development since we could see now that Philippines basketball program is now doing so well and also the players are gaining fame on international scene especially Brownlee who got a lot of recognition which provably could help to get a better more career on basketball.

Very big development in just a short time, it seems like magic when Tim Cone assumed the job. He flipped the fate of the team. Now, we are in the top 3 in the FIBA Asia ranking, and I can see that we will just keep improving over time. Brownlee sacrificed a lot to get us to where we are now. Hopefully, in the future, he will be joined by our brothers in the NBA, like Jordan Clarkson and Jalen Green. That would be awesome, as our pure-blooded Filipinos will gain more confidence and will surely get better as well.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 10, 2024, 07:28:23 PM

Quote from: Questat on July 09, 2024, 08:29:12 AM

And we have another good news with our ranking in FIBA Asia.

https://www.fiba.basketball/asiacup/2025/qualifiers/news/fiba-asia-cup-2025-qualifiers-smart-power-rankings-volume-2-aus-jpn-phi
~snip~

Wow, what a leap on the standings. China used to be the powerhouse in Asia now ranked 8th only, wonder what their feelings seeing the Philippines at the number 3 spot hehe.

To be honest, i do feel that this ranking will be short-live, i mean if Justine Brownlee and the likes of Fajardo would not play anymore on the national team, things will be different and Gilas might lose again to Jordan or China but i do hope that they can sustain this standing and the young guns of Gilas will continue to make our country proud.

I guess nothing more hateful feeling regarding on the developments gotten by Philippines but rather they would try to figure out on what's happening on their national team. They provably re-evaluate their programs since for dropping that bad on rankings which provably determine to do more better job on player scouting to present their country and possibly give them win on FIBA.

But anyways this is so good development since we could see now that Philippines basketball program is now doing so well and also the players are gaining fame on international scene especially Brownlee who got a lot of recognition which provably could help to get a better more career on basketball.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 10, 2024, 07:28:23 PM

Quote from: Questat on July 09, 2024, 08:29:12 AM

And we have another good news with our ranking in FIBA Asia.

https://www.fiba.basketball/asiacup/2025/qualifiers/news/fiba-asia-cup-2025-qualifiers-smart-power-rankings-volume-2-aus-jpn-phi
~snip~

Wow, what a leap on the standings. China used to be the powerhouse in Asia now ranked 8th only, wonder what their feelings seeing the Philippines at the number 3 spot hehe.

That's why Yao Ming who's currently the CBA chairman is scratching his head.

Quote from: bisdak40 on July 10, 2024, 07:28:23 PM

To be honest, i do feel that this ranking will be short-live, i mean if Justine Brownlee and the likes of Fajardo would not play anymore on the national team, things will be different and Gilas might lose again to Jordan or China but i do hope that they can sustain this standing and the young guns of Gilas will continue to make our country proud.

I have faith with the talents that are uprising now. Kai, Ramos, and the others, they're surely going to improve more and become better. There are also a lot of upcoming talents. The system also that's being done by Tim Cone is good and hopefully he won't be replaced.

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Quote from: Questat on July 09, 2024, 08:29:12 AM

And we have another good news with our ranking in FIBA Asia.

https://www.fiba.basketball/asiacup/2025/qualifiers/news/fiba-asia-cup-2025-qualifiers-smart-power-rankings-volume-2-aus-jpn-phi
~snip~

Wow, what a leap on the standings. China used to be the powerhouse in Asia now ranked 8th only, wonder what their feelings seeing the Philippines at the number 3 spot hehe.

To be honest, i do feel that this ranking will be short-live, i mean if Justine Brownlee and the likes of Fajardo would not play anymore on the national team, things will be different and Gilas might lose again to Jordan or China but i do hope that they can sustain this standing and the young guns of Gilas will continue to make our country proud.

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Quote from: Questat on July 09, 2024, 08:29:12 AM

And we have another good news with our ranking in FIBA Asia.

https://www.fiba.basketball/asiacup/2025/qualifiers/news/fiba-asia-cup-2025-qualifiers-smart-power-rankings-volume-2-aus-jpn-phi

What a prouding moment. We're even ahead with New Zealand and Iran now which are kryptonites of Gilas. Cool

Quote from: Questat on July 09, 2024, 08:29:12 AM

We are now at the number 3, next to Australia and Japan. I'm just curious though, why is it Australia in included in the FIBA Asia when Australia is not in Asia. Anyone know the answer? Grin

Because they're in Oceania and there are few competitive teams and countries there. So, FIBA decided to merge them with Asia.
(https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Australia-and-New-Zealand-included-in-FIBA-Asia-the-International-Basketball-Association)

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_Asia_Cup

After 2017, the Asian Championships and the FIBA Oceania Championship merged into a tournament to be known as the FIBA Asia Cup.

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And we have another good news with our ranking in FIBA Asia.

https://www.fiba.basketball/asiacup/2025/qualifiers/news/fiba-asia-cup-2025-qualifiers-smart-power-rankings-volume-2-aus-jpn-phi

We are now at the number 3, next to Australia and Japan. I'm just curious though, why is it Australia in included in the FIBA Asia when Australia is not in Asia. Anyone know the answer? Grin

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Quote from: arwin100 on July 09, 2024, 05:58:21 AM

He totally deserves that achievement since we see how big his contribution for current achievement what Gilas get. Although they feel out short against Brazil but still Brownlee and the whole Gilas boys show something great about their current run on qualifiers. That's why future of Gilas basketball team is so bring especially that we could able to see the Philippines Basketball is now upgrading.

Now for sure the favorite team in Asia would be Japan and the current bracket they belong would be a huge challenge to them especially that those teams you mentioned is hard to bet since they are compose with solid roster. Especially with France where Wemby and Gobert is there.

And with that contributions he still thinks that he did dissapoint the fans as he did not perfomed well on that last game, but for me personally I see how him playing with that big heart just how us pinoy always say "Puso" which makes him pusong pinoy he deserves all that recognitions as he really help if that's the right term or probably carried the team to play in the semis, though the campaign fell short but still a big achievement to an Asian team reaching the semis and noting also that we are in the rank #37..

Well done JBL a huge hug and always proud having you to PH national uniform, Congrats..

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Great achievement for JB.

Justin Brownlee named to All-Star Five of Latvia FIBA Olympic Qualifying Tournament

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Brownee joined MVP Bruno Caboclo of Brazil, Rihards Lomazs of Latvia, Jeremiah Hill of Cameroon, and another Brazilian in Leo Meindl in the All-Star team.

He really deserved to be on that spot because he brought the team to the semis when we the team only ranked at 37 IIRC.
So their jobs are done, I think we can not way for the PBA to resume... Anyone knows when is that date?

Congratulations to JB. While our country has gained that respect from other European teams, JB will get more opportunity this time because of his performance on Riga, Latvia's FIBA OQT. Despite our loss to the OQT, we can still cheer for Japan that has got in. Don't forget that they're an Asian country and team so, let's push them and support them all the way to the Olympics.

Congrats to Justine Brownlee for making it to the mythical five and congrats to the Gilas boys as well for making our country proud. Even with the loss, they deserve out utmost respect.

As for Japan, yeah we can cheer for them but i don't think that they could win a single game in the Olympics as they belong to a group with Germany and powerhouse France. This Olympics is exciting for me as i want to witness how France will fare against the US team if ever they will meet in the semis or finals.

He totally deserves that achievement since we see how big his contribution for current achievement what Gilas get. Although they feel out short against Brazil but still Brownlee and the whole Gilas boys show something great about their current run on qualifiers. That's why future of Gilas basketball team is so bring especially that we could able to see the Philippines Basketball is now upgrading.

Now for sure the favorite team in Asia would be Japan and the current bracket they belong would be a huge challenge to them especially that those teams you mentioned is hard to bet since they are compose with solid roster. Especially with France where Wemby and Gobert is there.

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