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Quote from: xLays on July 03, 2024, 01:30:01 PM

I am looking for discussion thread for the Paris Olympics to post this but the last post there was in 2023. I'm afraid to post there as it might get deleted. So let me post here instead.

This is fine, PBA is on the break and some PBA players are also there.

Quote from: xLays on July 03, 2024, 01:30:01 PM

Anyway, here's the news! Gilas won against Latvia top 6 team in the basketball power rankings. The defense of the Philippines was big! (Solid na solid) I thought Latvia would comeback in the 4th quarter, but it was unlikely because coach tim come knows what he's doing! its okay to get 24 second violation as long as Latvia didn't score. Brownlee also carried the team in scoring. He even made 4 point play, that was the I know Latvia can't comeback.

Congrats Gilas!

Congratulations to our very own Gilas Pilipinas. When I have watched how Coach Tim Cone talked during their practice and actual game against Poland, he's a real coach. It's not about how tough the words are but the determination. I really like what he said: "We're here to win the tournament not some games."

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I am looking for discussion thread for the Paris Olympics to post this but the last post there was in 2023. I'm afraid to post there as it might get deleted. So let me post here instead.

Anyway, here's the news! Gilas won against Latvia top 6 team in the basketball power rankings. The defense of the Philippines was big! (Solid na solid) I thought Latvia would comeback in the 4th quarter, but it was unlikely because coach tim come knows what he's doing! its okay to get 24 second violation as long as Latvia didn't score. Brownlee also carried the team in scoring. He even made 4 point play, that was the I know Latvia can't comeback.

Congrats Gilas!

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Quote from: Fredomago on July 03, 2024, 06:35:16 AM

Quote from: Finestream on July 03, 2024, 04:08:44 AM

Quote from: Maslate on July 03, 2024, 03:32:27 AM

And the odds for Latvia vs Philippines is not out.

It's the Philippines x17 to win and +21.5 for the handicap. Total is 160.5 (over/under)
check in this bookie.

So guys, what do you think would be the choise here? I'm sure most of your will be on +21.5, but how about the moneyline odds, does it look attractive to you?

So this game will be in the midnight, hmm.... I guess I'll try to bet on the handicap first, then if I feel they'll win then I will go for the moneyline, I'll just do a live betting on that moneyline bet, it doesn't matter if I'll get a lower odds, x10 would be fine with me. Good luck Gilas, this is a tough game but I always believe that our team is underrated, so let's get this big win and qualify in the Olympics.

Underrated indeed though that's an international game and different from those exhibition games but still I believe that coach Tim got a competitive squad, I like your idea taking the handicap and watch the game then take the ML if you see the opportunities, hopefully that great rotation comes up and the players are all in playing the game.

We do have a complete package though our shooters needs to have that early confidence taking shots, it's needed as we all know how the opposing team played the game, aside from defending them outside we also need to have that good answer when they start throwing those shots, good luck mga Kabayan!

In less than 2 hours the game will commence. So far, there has no changes on the handicap, it's still +21.5. Gilas needs to have a perfect 3 point shooting in order to win the game, and of course their defense should be consistent as they are playing against the taller players so they cannot play lax defense. Well, I trust that CTC will be able to make an in game adjustment especially if this comes out to be a close one.

There is this odds on one of the sportsbook I have checked.

To Win All Quarters - Philippines x125. (interested with that?) Cheesy

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Quote from: Finestream on July 03, 2024, 04:08:44 AM

Quote from: Maslate on July 03, 2024, 03:32:27 AM

Nice strategy, I guess I'll follow it but I have to rest early tonight because this game will be this midnight in our timezone. Hopefully there will be some free facebook live streaming so we will be able to follow it while we are betting. I'm already impressed with how they played veruse Poland, now if KP will not play, then I guess Philippines has a chance of even an upset win.

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Country Odds
Philippines +12000

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Quote from: Japinat on July 02, 2024, 08:40:57 AM

So here's the schedule of the 2 games of the Philippines.

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Game Wednesday
(Arena Riga, Latvia)
7 p.m. (12 a.m. Thursday in Manila) — Latvia vs Philippines

Game Thursday
(Arena Riga, Latvia)
3:30 p.m. (8:30 p.m. in Manila) — Philippines vs Georgia

source : https://www.bworldonline.com/sports/2024/07/02/605696/gilas-pilipinas-all-poised-to-fight-in-race-for-paris-olympics-ticket/

And for the odds, we can see that the Philippines have a very attractive odds for them to qualify in the Olympics.
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Very attractive, but not worth the risk especially if you will look at their opponents.
We might have close matches between Poland and Turkey which are top European teams, but Latvia and Georgia are 2 different teams especially Latvia who is at the top right now in FIBA rankings.

Latvia might not have Porzingis playing for them, but their playstyle is just amazing. Shared ball, lots of 3-point shooters, and they also have a Power Forward player that can pass the ball as well. In Georgia, we might have a slim chance, but still, my expectations are too low for our team. Not being pessimistic though. Just sharing the facts. Anyway, I guess let's just enjoy their games. Who knows. Cheesy

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Quote from: Japinat on July 02, 2024, 08:40:57 AM

So here's the schedule of the 2 games of the Philippines.

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Game Wednesday
(Arena Riga, Latvia)
7 p.m. (12 a.m. Thursday in Manila) — Latvia vs Philippines

Game Thursday
(Arena Riga, Latvia)
3:30 p.m. (8:30 p.m. in Manila) — Philippines vs Georgia

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Country   Odds
Latvia    -115
Brazil   +130
Montenegro   +800
Georgia   +1600
Philippines   +12000
Cameroon   +20000

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Thanks for this info kabayan, this is very useful but i don't wanna take that bait as it is just a wishful thinking that Philippines would top this year's Olympic's qualifiers.

By the way, do you the odds and the spread on the Gilas vs Latvia game already. I might bet for the Philippines but of course with the handicap and hope the game will be close. For sure the Team Latvia is also scouting the Gilas team right now and might blow them away in their match tomorrow hehe.

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So here's the schedule of the 2 games of the Philippines.

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Game Wednesday
(Arena Riga, Latvia)
7 p.m. (12 a.m. Thursday in Manila) — Latvia vs Philippines

Game Thursday
(Arena Riga, Latvia)
3:30 p.m. (8:30 p.m. in Manila) — Philippines vs Georgia

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Country   Odds
Latvia    -115
Brazil   +130
Montenegro   +800
Georgia   +1600
Philippines   +12000
Cameroon   +20000

Bet $100 you'll win $12000

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Quote from: Distinctin on July 01, 2024, 08:07:11 AM

Quote from: Questat on July 01, 2024, 04:49:03 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on June 30, 2024, 08:45:36 AM

So I was looking for the betting odds for Gergia vs Philippines but it's not yet available, maybe I'm too early because the game will be on July 4, 2024, so still few more days although the Olympic qualifier will commence on July 2. As i was checking, I see this article on the list of schedules. and also see the teams that are already qualified.

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The winners of each OQT will join the eight teams already qualified for Paris 2024:

France
USA
Canada
Australia
South Sudan
Japan
Serbia
Germany

So Japan already in the list, it's the only Asian country that has qualified, who knows Philippines will be added.

Yes they are in the list because they have win games during the FIBA world cup.
This team have improved a lot since they already have 2 NBA players, Rui Hachimura and Yuta Watanabe.. while the Philippines at the present line up, we don't have any, unless Clarkson will play, but he'd rather not because the current Gilas team are doing well already.

Thanks for bringing up that important information. I only knew about Hachimura, but I've seen Watanabe before when he was playing with the Suns. I'm not sure where he is playing now.

Not having NBA players is not an issue for our team. The fact that we were able to compete against a strong team like Poland shows that we are ready for Georgia and Latvia. We know it's a tough battle, and the betting odds may say we are the heavy underdogs, but that's fine.

I agree to that though having Clarkson is something that may add offensive threats especially if they allow him not as naturalized but a native player and together with JBL that's something big for our team, he might change the tempo of the system but knowing coach Tim I'm sure respect is always be with him, facing the reality, the current National squad is fully equipt after seeing those exhibition games I also believe that the chance is possible for the team to make an upset.

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Quote from: Distinctin on June 30, 2024, 08:45:36 AM

Do you think we have a chance? (yes/no)

of course, just be optimistic, we might even qualify in the Olympics. Just trust Tim Cone as he'll do some magic.

It's good to know I have my fellow Filipino here believed on what Gilas can do. Yeah, let's surprise the world.

We all hope for the best and for sure CTC and the rest of PH nationals they will do evertything to make our country proud!

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Quote from: Questat on July 01, 2024, 04:49:03 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on June 30, 2024, 08:45:36 AM

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The winners of each OQT will join the eight teams already qualified for Paris 2024:

France
USA
Canada
Australia
South Sudan
Japan
Serbia
Germany

So Japan already in the list, it's the only Asian country that has qualified, who knows Philippines will be added.

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Quote from: Distinctin on June 30, 2024, 08:45:36 AM

Do you think we have a chance? (yes/no)

of course, just be optimistic, we might even qualify in the Olympics. Just trust Tim Cone as he'll do some magic.

It's good to know I have my fellow Filipino here believed on what Gilas can do. Yeah, let's surprise the world.

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Quote from: Distinctin on June 30, 2024, 08:45:36 AM

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The winners of each OQT will join the eight teams already qualified for Paris 2024:

France
USA
Canada
Australia
South Sudan
Japan
Serbia
Germany

So Japan already in the list, it's the only Asian country that has qualified, who knows Philippines will be added.

Quote from: Distinctin on June 30, 2024, 08:45:36 AM

Do you think we have a chance? (yes/no)

of course, just be optimistic, we might even qualify in the Olympics. Just trust Tim Cone as he'll do some magic.

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The winners of each OQT will join the eight teams already qualified for Paris 2024:

France
USA
Canada
Australia
South Sudan
Japan
Serbia
Germany

So Japan already in the list, it's the only Asian country that has qualified, who knows Philippines will be added.

Do you think we have a chance? (yes/no)

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Quote from: Distinctin on June 29, 2024, 05:41:08 PM

Gilas made us proud with just a 2-point game against a team ranked number 15 in the FIBA world standings. That's impressive.

But that was Gilas trying to come back. IIRC, Poland's lead reached as high as 20 points, but Gilas had a strong run that gave a scare to the home team. I can't believe that Gilas has improved this much. Although some comments mention they don't move the ball well and lack a true PG, Ramos is not a true PG, so there's a problem with ball movement. However, Ramos was really clutch, making shot after shot to stage the comeback. It was him and Brownlee who carried Gilas on their backs.

I don't know if we can win in the actual game in the qualifier, but based on the last two games, I see there's a possibility.

Quote from: Distinctin on June 29, 2024, 05:41:08 PM

Kai's value was evident in that game. His presence in the paint made it difficult for Poland to attack easily. Just like in the last tune-up game, it was the opponent's great 3-point shooting that hurt Gilas. Overall, it was a good performance because it was a close game. I love their improvement. They fell short, but that's fine because it was already close. With just a little fine-tuning, especially on the FT side, they'll get it next time.

I guess they are well prepared now for the qualifiers. Good luck to Gilas.

Kai has to be aggressive, like he played in the last two games. Blocking shots is not enough. He needs to be a threat on offense as well. I see that he is getting more confident with his shots. Hopefully, that's a wake-up call for him, and he'll do even better in the first game of the qualifier.

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Gilas made us proud with just a 2-point game against a team ranked number 15 in the FIBA world standings. That's impressive.

Kai's value was evident in that game. His presence in the paint made it difficult for Poland to attack easily. Just like in the last tune-up game, it was the opponent's great 3-point shooting that hurt Gilas. Overall, it was a good performance because it was a close game. I love their improvement. They fell short, but that's fine because it was already close. With just a little fine-tuning, especially on the FT side, they'll get it next time.

I guess they are well prepared now for the qualifiers. Good luck to Gilas.

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Quote from: goaldigger on June 29, 2024, 02:46:49 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on June 29, 2024, 02:11:33 PM

They gave it all and almost upset Poland, just fell short of time but it really an interesting game for PH Nationals, the adjustments are working for them and the rotation gives them the game play that they needed, hopefully they will continue to developed and bring this type of game system in an actual game for the qualifying match.

That was a good match actually and of course that can help boost the morale of the team. I can see the coaching staff is working very hard right now to meet the expectation of the Filipinos. We all know how big deal the basketball is in our country, and I just hope that we support them more instead of bashing them. Let’s hope that those tune up games will pay off.

Gilas is really something now, they're really great and to think that Poland has a high ranking, that means we can really compete.

82-80, just a 2 point win by Poland, I guess some might have expected this will be a blowout win for the Poland, but the Philippines surprised them.
I'm wondering what was the betting spread for this game, I'm sure fans for the Gilas have won the handicap,, this one was really intense and easy money for the bettors of Gilas. Congratulations to us for this strong effort, despite the loss.

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I agree, this is better than what we're expecting and as this tune up game really will help the Gilas to experience further and more adjustments to come before the actual Olympic qualifying games. The roster is perfect and if there are negative comments from the fans, just don't be distracted with that. The team, the coaching staff and the players are all doing their best and they're actually doing a good job, they are there to win and they want it badly just as how we fans and kababayans want it.

This is indeed the reality, more than the fans, it's the players and the managements who wanted to win badly, they are playing to make the country proud, and with what we are witnessing right now, they are in the right directions just some adjustments that needed in terms of defense especially those big man who are playing outside that adjustments is really needed to fill out, we need those young stars to use their speed to rotate they need cover those defense if ever JMF or Kai has been outrun those young star like KQ or KT both have the height who can give that tight defense for those outside shots.

Our shooters need to be sharp and for the defense, they need to attend to that because it's known that most teams have got their best shooters. Or a harder opponent is that most of their players can shoot outside. And with that, they need to take note of that which is surely on their books already, just a good rotation and can't deny that this version of Gilas is doing it. <3

Yup, and they show it up very close game against Poland almost a win but fell short of time only 2 points but PH National give a hard fought and for sure Poland got surprise with how the Nationals take the challenge, a very close game and an almost a blowout but that last minute rally really give some hope lucky for those bettors as if I heard it right handicap is +12.5 or more not really sure.

Quote from: Maslate on June 29, 2024, 06:57:58 AM

So the Philippines will have their last tune-up game against Poland, which is ranked number 15 in the FIBA world rankings and considered a stronger team than Turkey. If Gilas has learned from their previous game, they should perform better this time. If they can make it a close and interesting game, I believe their chances against Georgia and Latvia will be promising.

So the game will be tomorrow but in order to be able to watch it, we need to be awake by ;

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Sunday, 12 midnight Philippine time

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Sunday, 12 midnight Philippine time

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba/gilas-pilipinas-faces-jeremy-sochan-poland-in-final-tune-up-before-oqt-a795-20240629?ref=home_feed_1