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Who expected this to happen? Arwind Santos going to NorthPort for Vic Manuel.
I just saw this on Snow Badua's Facebook Page and it seems that it is credible and true since it came from spin.ph

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/pba-approves-arwind-santos-vic-manuel-trade-a793-20211108?ref=home_featured_big

After how many years in SMB and many championships that he got with the team, the SMB management decides to start getting new players and decided to broke their deadly starting 5. Well, there are some rumors already saying that Manuel will go to a SMC team and there are some saying that it will be Magnolia but I didn't really expect that he will end up in SMB. Now the SMB are stronger since we know that Manuel is really a strong player. He isn't called "Muscle Man" for nothing. The inside pressure of SMB is now stronger with him. Just imagine Manuel and Fajardo inside the court with their point guards like Perez, Romeo, Lassiter.

TBH after their performance last Filipino Cup, I already expect that some players from SMB will be traded to other teams because they are going old already and we all knew it. I just didn't expect that they will trade Arwind Santos. What's your takeaway with this?

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 02, 2021, 12:40:55 AM

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Brgy. Ginebra - Justin Brownlee
TNT - Mckenzie Moore
Magnolia - Mike Harris
Phoenix - Paul Harris
Rain or Shine - Henry Walker
San Miguel - Brendan Brown
NLEX - KJ McDaniels
Alaska - Olu Ashaolu

I'm glad Meralco isn't still on the list yet. I hope they will sign Allen Durham again. They are hard to beat when Durham is there. They managed to get on the top of the standings with their import. It's just that there's Ginebra that always getting in their way. Like to see the comeback of Durham as he is the kryptonite of some top SMC teams and MVP teams.

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We don't have an idea how the other imports play. It's always favorable to him for the opinion of fans because we know how he plays. But there could be some surprises for the other imports.

I hope to see that surprise as it's not good if Brownlee will still dominate like in the past season, his greatest rival is only Allen Durham who also won the best import award before playing with the Meralco Bolts. It's been a while, I almost forgot the imports the last time the PBA have this conference, so it's like freshen our mind on these imports.

Actually, it's not that Brownlee is dominating the imports but the whole Ginebra is just doing great as a team.

And just for reference at others here, Brownlee only won once as a Best Import in the PBA on his 4 PBA Champions. At the time Ginebra got their first champion with Brownlee, the Best Import at that conference is Allen Durham of the Meralco Bolts. A year later, Allen Durham again won the award. Then Brownless was next.

He is not the dominant import in the league in the past conferences even his overall stats are good but his chemistry to Ginebra is exactly fit that's why the team always has a good rally when Brownlee is there.

Do you still remember how many times he won a championship being an import of the Ginebra San Miguel?

I can always remember his winning shot that eliminated the Allem Durham's team in the Finals, I'm not sure if it's his first time to win the championship in the PBA but that win is really great as it's a buzzer-beater win.

the highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iPH5oyG8Zs

Yes, I mentioned it bro, 4 times championships in Ginebra. But it's not totally that Brownlee dominates the imports there as on that 3 championships, he only gets the Best Import Award once. That 4 championship in Ginebra is a team effort and Brownless leads them.

That's the reason why he only won once because, on other teams, they just rely on imports mostly. In picking the best PBA imports, they rely on stats. Different from Brownlee that while he is leading the team, other Ginebra gunners are also playing well and contributing.

And you are correct. That clutch shot by Brownlee was his first championship as a Barangay Ginebra.

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Quote from: harizen on November 07, 2021, 04:04:50 PM

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Quote from: blockman on November 07, 2021, 03:05:05 AM

We don't have an idea how the other imports play. It's always favorable to him for the opinion of fans because we know how he plays. But there could be some surprises for the other imports.

I hope to see that surprise as it's not good if Brownlee will still dominate like in the past season, his greatest rival is only Allen Durham who also won the best import award before playing with the Meralco Bolts. It's been a while, I almost forgot the imports the last time the PBA have this conference, so it's like freshen our mind on these imports.

Actually, it's not that Brownlee is dominating the imports but the whole Ginebra is just doing great as a team.

And just for reference at others here, Brownlee only won once as a Best Import in the PBA on his 4 PBA Champions. At the time Ginebra got their first champion with Brownlee, the Best Import at that conference is Allen Durham of the Meralco Bolts. A year later, Allen Durham again won the award. Then Brownless was next.

He is not the dominant import in the league in the past conferences even his overall stats are good but his chemistry to Ginebra is exactly fit that's why the team always has a good rally when Brownlee is there.

And that's why fans love him so much. He is not after the award but the help that he is providing for this crowd favorite. By the way, have you seen those rumors about Aguilar's trade? Not sure if that's for real or Japeth is also considering the offer from B-League? for sure it's a loss for Gin kings if they will let him go, as we all know how big Japeth in terms of stats.

Maybe Brownlee will adjust though not that much as he already played with CStan and with the way he plays, he loves to keep running, CStan is fit doing that.

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Quote from: harizen on November 07, 2021, 04:04:50 PM

Quote from: Viscore on November 07, 2021, 05:44:28 AM

Quote from: blockman on November 07, 2021, 03:05:05 AM

We don't have an idea how the other imports play. It's always favorable to him for the opinion of fans because we know how he plays. But there could be some surprises for the other imports.

I hope to see that surprise as it's not good if Brownlee will still dominate like in the past season, his greatest rival is only Allen Durham who also won the best import award before playing with the Meralco Bolts. It's been a while, I almost forgot the imports the last time the PBA have this conference, so it's like freshen our mind on these imports.

Actually, it's not that Brownlee is dominating the imports but the whole Ginebra is just doing great as a team.

And just for reference at others here, Brownlee only won once as a Best Import in the PBA on his 4 PBA Champions. At the time Ginebra got their first champion with Brownlee, the Best Import at that conference is Allen Durham of the Meralco Bolts. A year later, Allen Durham again won the award. Then Brownless was next.

He is not the dominant import in the league in the past conferences even his overall stats are good but his chemistry to Ginebra is exactly fit that's why the team always has a good rally when Brownlee is there.

Do you still remember how many times he won a championship being an import of the Ginebra San Miguel?

I can always remember his winning shot that eliminated the Allem Durham's team in the Finals, I'm not sure if it's his first time to win the championship in the PBA but that win is really great as it's a buzzer-beater win.

the highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iPH5oyG8Zs

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Quote from: Viscore on November 07, 2021, 05:44:28 AM

Quote from: blockman on November 07, 2021, 03:05:05 AM

We don't have an idea how the other imports play. It's always favorable to him for the opinion of fans because we know how he plays. But there could be some surprises for the other imports.

I hope to see that surprise as it's not good if Brownlee will still dominate like in the past season, his greatest rival is only Allen Durham who also won the best import award before playing with the Meralco Bolts. It's been a while, I almost forgot the imports the last time the PBA have this conference, so it's like freshen our mind on these imports.

Actually, it's not that Brownlee is dominating the imports but the whole Ginebra is just doing great as a team.

And just for reference at others here, Brownlee only won once as a Best Import in the PBA on his 4 PBA Champions. At the time Ginebra got their first champion with Brownlee, the Best Import at that conference is Allen Durham of the Meralco Bolts. A year later, Allen Durham again won the award. Then Brownless was next.

He is not the dominant import in the league in the past conferences even his overall stats are good but his chemistry to Ginebra is exactly fit that's why the team always has a good rally when Brownlee is there.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 07, 2021, 08:31:42 AM

Quote from: Viscore on November 07, 2021, 05:44:28 AM

Quote from: blockman on November 07, 2021, 03:05:05 AM

We don't have an idea how the other imports play. It's always favorable to him for the opinion of fans because we know how he plays. But there could be some surprises for the other imports.

I hope to see that surprise as it's not good if Brownlee will still dominate like in the past season, his greatest rival is only Allen Durham who also won the best import award before playing with the Meralco Bolts. It's been a while, I almost forgot the imports the last time the PBA have this conference, so it's like freshen our mind on these imports.

Aside from Brownlee, I also know KJ McDaniels. If I'm not mistaken, he helps TNT to play in the semi-finals way back but loss with Meralco in game 5; The guy is a quiet type gunner who also have good stroke, He will be playing for NLEX might be a good help for coach Yeng to compete with this new season,.

I like to see more imports to surprise us. Brownlee may have the heart of most pinoy fans but we never know yet if what are the excitement that will be brought to us by these new and unfamiliar names.

Time is running so fast and PBA is just 3 weeks away if there's no problem that we will be hearing, that tentative date may be finalized.. Roll Eyes

I made some checking on KJ McDaniels and found out that he is an ex NBA player, it's very impressive that's why he is good.

His career in basketball;

Philadelphia 76ers (2014–2015
Houston Rockets (2015–2017)
Brooklyn Nets (2017)
Grand Rapids Drive (2017–2018)
Oklahoma City Blue (2018–2019)
TNT KaTropa (2019)
Greensboro Swarm (2020–2021)
NLEX Road Warriors (2021–present)

source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._J._McDaniels

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Quote from: Viscore on November 07, 2021, 05:44:28 AM

Quote from: blockman on November 07, 2021, 03:05:05 AM

We don't have an idea how the other imports play. It's always favorable to him for the opinion of fans because we know how he plays. But there could be some surprises for the other imports.

I hope to see that surprise as it's not good if Brownlee will still dominate like in the past season, his greatest rival is only Allen Durham who also won the best import award before playing with the Meralco Bolts. It's been a while, I almost forgot the imports the last time the PBA have this conference, so it's like freshen our mind on these imports.

Aside from Brownlee, I also know KJ McDaniels. If I'm not mistaken, he helps TNT to play in the semi-finals way back but loss with Meralco in game 5; The guy is a quiet type gunner who also have good stroke, He will be playing for NLEX might be a good help for coach Yeng to compete with this new season,.

I like to see more imports to surprise us. Brownlee may have the heart of most pinoy fans but we never know yet if what are the excitement that will be brought to us by these new and unfamiliar names.

Time is running so fast and PBA is just 3 weeks away if there's no problem that we will be hearing, that tentative date may be finalized.. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: blockman on November 07, 2021, 03:05:05 AM

We don't have an idea how the other imports play. It's always favorable to him for the opinion of fans because we know how he plays. But there could be some surprises for the other imports.

I hope to see that surprise as it's not good if Brownlee will still dominate like in the past season, his greatest rival is only Allen Durham who also won the best import award before playing with the Meralco Bolts. It's been a while, I almost forgot the imports the last time the PBA have this conference, so it's like freshen our mind on these imports.

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Going back to the topic Grin

we are all waiting for the next conference and we are excited to see if how good those imports from different teams, how they will help in chasing for the title. Roll Eyes

Is there a way to see the potential imports for each team?

Here's the list below, maybe you can see some familiar names.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 02, 2021, 12:40:55 AM

Just a few minutes ago, One Sports facebook Page posted the list of the imports of some teams and here it is:

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Brgy. Ginebra - Justin Brownlee
TNT - Mckenzie Moore
Magnolia - Mike Harris
Phoenix - Paul Harris
Rain or Shine - Henry Walker
San Miguel - Brendan Brown
NLEX - KJ McDaniels
Alaska - Olu Ashaolu

AFAIR, I only see 3 names on the list which have already played in the PBA, and of course the most popular is Justin Brownlee who continuously brought success in the PBA every time he plays.

Thanks, I'm not familiar with all of them except Brownlee as usual. I'll just go to the page to see more details about them.

Quote from: Yamifoud on November 06, 2021, 04:07:51 PM

In the list, I think Justin Brownlee will once again win the best import award. I saw some posts about the statement of Justin Brownlee that he is happy playing in the Philippines and he'll be glad if the PBA will make him their naturalized player so he can help the Philippines represent the country in international competition.

We don't have an idea how the other imports play. It's always favorable to him for the opinion of fans because we know how he plays. But there could be some surprises for the other imports.

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Just as I expected and posted previously here, the league now has a tentative date for the start of the PBA's next conference. The date was between November 26 to 28. Again, just a tentative date as their concern was the period where Manila will be put on Level 2 restrictions. It's only for 16 days (until Nov. 19th if I'm not mistaken). After that date, there's no assurance if the same level will be imposed later on. Only in Level 2 were sports activity were allowed.

With the current status of pandemic cases here, I think Manila will not shift back to a much strict level restriction and will continue in Level 2. If that happened, the league can now officially start on the said dates and they might allow fans at the venues if ever.

If allowed in venues, fans to get ‘warm welcome’ from PBA

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Quote from: Yamifoud on November 06, 2021, 04:07:51 PM

In the list, I think Justin Brownlee will once again win the best import award. I saw some posts about the statement of Justin Brownlee that he is happy playing in the Philippines and he'll be glad if the PBA will make him their naturalized player so he can help the Philippines represent the country in international competition.

Justin Brownlee is not a superhuman. He is also aging and currently, he is now out of his prime. Others on the list might take over him as the best import.

For me, KJ McDaniels might be the one candidate for the Best Import Award. He is known already during the time he was the import of TNT Katropa. He will win in stats as no one from NLEX will be his second main scorer as Kiefer is playing in Japan. The Best Import Award is based on stats, not on the achievement of a team.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on November 06, 2021, 04:07:51 PM

In the list, I think Justin Brownlee will once again win the best import award. I saw some posts about the statement of Justin Brownlee that he is happy playing in the Philippines and he'll be glad if the PBA will make him their naturalized player so he can help the Philippines represent the country in international competition.

He already won as best import but the scenario right now is really different, there’s a lot of good imports for the upcoming conference so I’m not sure about this one. Having Brownlee on the PH team is a big help, if they plan to neutralized him hopefully the process will not take long since there’s an upcoming international events.

We will never know that they are good until they see them play, besides we haven't seen this kind of conference for a while so it could be a different experience now. But for me, I will still stick with my belief that Brownlee will get the best import award because he can produce good numbers and at the same time could make the team better judging in the past conference.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on November 06, 2021, 04:07:51 PM

In the list, I think Justin Brownlee will once again win the best import award. I saw some posts about the statement of Justin Brownlee that he is happy playing in the Philippines and he'll be glad if the PBA will make him their naturalized player so he can help the Philippines represent the country in international competition.

He already won as best import but the scenario right now is really different, there’s a lot of good imports for the upcoming conference so I’m not sure about this one. Having Brownlee on the PH team is a big help, if they plan to neutralized him hopefully the process will not take long since there’s an upcoming international events.

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In the list, I think Justin Brownlee will once again win the best import award. I saw some posts about the statement of Justin Brownlee that he is happy playing in the Philippines and he'll be glad if the PBA will make him their naturalized player so he can help the Philippines represent the country in international competition.

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Quote from: blockman on November 06, 2021, 03:36:11 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 05, 2021, 02:00:54 PM

Going back to the topic Grin

we are all waiting for the next conference and we are excited to see if how good those imports from different teams, how they will help in chasing for the title. Roll Eyes

Is there a way to see the potential imports for each team?

Here's the list below, maybe you can see some familiar names.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 02, 2021, 12:40:55 AM

Just a few minutes ago, One Sports facebook Page posted the list of the imports of some teams and here it is:

Quote

Brgy. Ginebra - Justin Brownlee
TNT - Mckenzie Moore
Magnolia - Mike Harris
Phoenix - Paul Harris
Rain or Shine - Henry Walker
San Miguel - Brendan Brown
NLEX - KJ McDaniels
Alaska - Olu Ashaolu

AFAIR, I only see 3 names on the list which have already played in the PBA, and of course the most popular is Justin Brownlee who continuously brought success in the PBA every time he plays.

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I still have that hope that covid will be easily cured and it won't be a bigger thing just as it was a year ago up to now. If you have already gone out, you'll be seeing children in different establishments and that's why having these PBA matches with audiences soon is very likely.
We just need to wait when will be the next season starts. And I think that there will be too many fans that are just excited to get on the seats of Araneta watching and relaxing at the same time.

There are fans who are excited to watch their favorite stars performing live. It's nice to know that we are getting to closer to allow the majorities to go out and live as normal as possible, though covid still here the chance of getting cured when you suffer is very possible now. We just have to take care of our own self and make sure to strengthen our immune system.

Yeah, that won't change the fact that covid is still there but the active daily cases on the metro have already dropped and keep on dropping. Hopefully, this is a good sign that we're almost close to going back to our normal lives, and PBA fans can go back again in a socially distancing crowd and will have to cheer their idols and teams again.

Quote from: Fredomago on November 05, 2021, 02:00:54 PM

Going back to the topic Grin

we are all waiting for the next conference and we are excited to see if how good those imports from different teams, how they will help in chasing for the title. Roll Eyes

Is there a way to see the potential imports for each team?

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Fresh news guys.

Phoenix set to trade Vic Manuel to NorthPort for Sean Anthony

Didn't expect this news, I guess it's we will know next conference if Vic Manuel has that power inside to lead a team. Northport always fails to qualify in the playoffs but they are trying to improve their lineup, with this news, I'd say they are on the right track.

Anthony is probably what the Phoenix needs as they don't have someone to help Wright carry the team. Wright's production has also decreased the last conference so the team is affected a lot, with Anthony, this team would certainly be a playoff contender again.

When a player does not give the expectation especially coming from a trade, you know the management will try to find a solution by bringing a new guy in exchange for a new player. Looks like Phoenix does not like a player coming from Alaska as they traded Calvin for Manuel and now they finally land to a player that is not from Alaska, hopefully, this time they'll find what they are looking for as the Fuelmasters roster are full of talented young players.

It's normal if the management didn't get what they wanted from the player and there are other team who
are interested in trading their players, it will be executed without a doubt.

Both Players are no longer on their prime. Maybe they can still provide something, but not the kind of help that will lift the team up.

Manuel and Anthony, in my opinion, are closer to their retirement.

I don't know if how Anthony will help Wright. If I'm not mistaken, he also asks for a trade when Phoenix let Abueva out.

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Quote from: Kasabus on November 05, 2021, 07:11:58 AM

It's a win-win for both teams IMO, why would the Phoenix keep Manuel if there's no improvement of the team. Look, they are better without Manuel and even before Calvin joined the team, Phoenix is already competing well, so I guess having two legit big men, Perkins and Chua are already good for the team, at least they can operate more as they don't have other players given the same minutes they get with the same position.

Actually, it's not that Phoenix is better without Vic Manuel but rather, the team doesn't really utilize and use him on his best because maybe of injury or still not in his usual shape. He is playing below his average on Phoenix in the last conference but on the bright side, still a good stats despite not being at 100%.

Regarding the trade, both teams win on that trade. On the NorthPort side, if Slaughter won't be traded, as he's part of the trading rumors, looking forward to their big man tandem with Vic Manuel.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 05, 2021, 02:00:54 PM

Going back to the topic Grin

we are all waiting for the next conference and we are excited to see if how good those imports from different teams, how they will help in chasing for the title. Roll Eyes

According to Harizen, the new conference is likely to start this month, so be more patient as we will eventually witness a conference where imports could finally play. Of course, this is different from the all Filipino cup as it will be more exciting with more production from the imports, probably more high scoring games as these imports could put up good numbers every game.

Actually, I refer to how conferences are structured in the PBA.

The usual is, for every fresh start, All-Filipino is the starting conference every year. Since they are planning to have an import, the next conference should be this month or next, as it should happen this year. March is the usual restart of PBA so they still have time for the import conference this year that can last up to 2 months if games will be played mostly at triple headers and every day like they did the last conference.

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Fresh news guys.

Phoenix set to trade Vic Manuel to NorthPort for Sean Anthony

Didn't expect this news, I guess it's we will know next conference if Vic Manuel has that power inside to lead a team. Northport always fails to qualify in the playoffs but they are trying to improve their lineup, with this news, I'd say they are on the right track.

Anthony is probably what the Phoenix needs as they don't have someone to help Wright carry the team. Wright's production has also decreased the last conference so the team is affected a lot, with Anthony, this team would certainly be a playoff contender again.

When a player does not give the expectation especially coming from a trade, you know the management will try to find a solution by bringing a new guy in exchange for a new player. Looks like Phoenix does not like a player coming from Alaska as they traded Calvin for Manuel and now they finally land to a player that is not from Alaska, hopefully, this time they'll find what they are looking for as the Fuelmasters roster are full of talented young players.

What's with Alaska players that Phoenix management doesn't like, is it the discipline that was instilled on them while they were playing with Alaska ? Grin

I'm also surprised with this move by NorthPort as I think that Sean Anthony is one of the pillars of their team but I guess they needed a player who can compliment the style of play of Robert Bolick. On the Phoenix side, I think Sean Anthony's role will be more of a mentor to a lot of the Phoenix's young players because he is not getting young anymore and he's also injury prone so i guess this is one of the few win-win trade of the PBA.

Alaska is a good defensive team, Manuel and Calvin played together with the team and they were doing great, unfortunately, when the new coach came in, things weren't the same as their ranking has sink, that's what I noticed to the team and I don't know if they can still be in the finals with the current roster and coach.

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