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Quote from: blockman on November 18, 2021, 06:58:34 PM

Anyone who follows Snow Badua? Before, Romeo said that he has a life debt to SMC and that's why he doesn't want to accept B League's offer.

Snow Badua always released lots of rumors and the majority of them come true. I don't know his source but his speculation is mostly accurate. Maybe because of his influence as one of the popular journalists of Spin.ph.

Quote from: blockman on November 18, 2021, 06:58:34 PM

But lately, the guy that I've mentioned has just opened the offer to Terrence for about $55,000/month and it will increase within the next year or next season of his stay in the B League.

Wait, I misunderstand this. Snow Badua was the one who offered that to Romeo?

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Anyone who follows Snow Badua? Before, Romeo said that he has a life debt to SMC and that's why he doesn't want to accept B League's offer. But lately, the guy that I've mentioned has just opened the offer to Terrence for about $55,000/month and it will increase within the next year or next season of his stay in the B League. All things are free, accommodation and food. That's a good offer to him but still haven't said anything lately with that offer.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on November 18, 2021, 02:11:36 PM

He played well with both SMB and North Port he provide good help for those two teams,

I just don't know what happen with Ginebra after acquiring him. They are the defending champ from the last first bubble, but they've got an earlier

elimination after having CStand. Maybe it's true that he is not fit with how Tim Cone handles his big men.

It's better for Ginebra if they sign Greg instead of getting CStand. This new conference will be another tough challenge if he stayed.
maybe Brownlee will help him to lift the team.

The goal of SMC is to make Ginebra more popular and a little bit stronger thus they trade Slaughter for CStand but that didn't materialize as Cstand style of play seemed to be in conflict with that of the other big man of Ginebra which is Japeth Aguilar, they don't jive well hen they are on the floor together.

If he stayed for one more conference, I think they could make it to the semis with CStand and Brownlee playing together because the latter is a willing passer which could boost Cstand's morale whenever he scored a basket from a Brownlee assist.

I was expecting that C. Stand would dominate in the all Filipino cup, but it didn't happen, so now with a new conference, let's see if he can level up his game and help the team to qualify in the Finals again. We all know how good Brownlee is, but this is a different team he is playing with now although I believe Brownlee and C. Stand have played together in an international competition before.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on November 18, 2021, 02:11:36 PM

He played well with both SMB and North Port he provide good help for those two teams,

I just don't know what happen with Ginebra after acquiring him. They are the defending champ from the last first bubble, but they've got an earlier

elimination after having CStand. Maybe it's true that he is not fit with how Tim Cone handles his big men.

It's better for Ginebra if they sign Greg instead of getting CStand. This new conference will be another tough challenge if he stayed.
maybe Brownlee will help him to lift the team.

The goal of SMC is to make Ginebra more popular and a little bit stronger thus they trade Slaughter for CStand but that didn't materialize as Cstand style of play seemed to be in conflict with that of the other big man of Ginebra which is Japeth Aguilar, they don't jive well hen they are on the floor together.

If he stayed for one more conference, I think they could make it to the semis with CStand and Brownlee playing together because the latter is a willing passer which could boost Cstand's morale whenever he scored a basket from a Brownlee assist.

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Put him on a different team and he might dominate again. What I think is wrong is that, the system of Coach Tim Cone isn't working for CStand for some reasons that is why he isn't as dominate as he was a few years ago.

C. Stand is not also impressive during his stay with the North Port, so I can really say that he is not what we are expecting him to be. He played with SMB, I guess that's where his numbers were up but later he was traded for Tautua, so I don't understand why a good player is traded from time to time.

He played well with both SMB and North Port he provide good help for those two teams,

I just don't know what happen with Ginebra after acquiring him. They are the defending champ from the last first bubble, but they've got an earlier

elimination after having CStand. Maybe it's true that he is not fit with how Tim Cone handles his big men.

It's better for Ginebra if they sign Greg instead of getting CStand. This new conference will be another tough challenge if he stayed.
maybe Brownlee will help him to lift the team.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 18, 2021, 08:48:33 AM

Put him on a different team and he might dominate again. What I think is wrong is that, the system of Coach Tim Cone isn't working for CStand for some reasons that is why he isn't as dominate as he was a few years ago.

C. Stand is not also impressive during his stay with the North Port, so I can really say that he is not what we are expecting him to be. He played with SMB, I guess that's where his numbers were up but later he was traded for Tautua, so I don't understand why a good player is traded from time to time.

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Quote from: harizen on November 17, 2021, 06:51:06 PM

What can you say guys about Christian Standhardinger playing for the Japan B-League after the PBA Governors Cup?

For me, a good decision. First, he is not fit the Ginebra system (although can be fixed with more games playing at Ginebra). Second, he will be utilized more in the B League, and lastly, career-wise, the paycheck is much better compared to playing at the PBA.

I'm just thinking that "what if", the Barangay able to snatch a title at the Governor's Cup. Will that change Standhardinger's plan to go to B-League? A big compensation is an assurance if Brgy. Ginebra makes it to the championship.

I'm trying to find some articles or sources with this news but I can't find one. Kindly share the link here so that we can read the news because this is a huge news.

Well, lets face it. B-league is a better league compare to PBA in terms of salary and in competition. This is the reason why Filipino Players opted to play at B-league. They are saying that they want experience but aside from that, the money that they will get playing there would be much better than playing in PBA.

Any player that comes from PBA and will play to B-league would always be a good decision and this is one of them. I mean he might play better there and aside from that, he will get more money. I think that we already expected this outcome after Thirdy playing in B-league. Him playing in B-league created a domino effect against young Filipino Basketball players and those professional players as well. Now I don't know what will Ginebra do to let CStan stay but.... I'm thinking that PBA is in trouble right now because more and more players are opting to play outside PH instead of playing here.

That's still a rumor for now but I have a feeling that he will leave the PBA because he is not making a name in the PBA, I mean our expectation from him is not met, so he can choose to make a name in Japan and make a bigger salary at the same time.

I'm sure lots of teams will be interested on him.

But this could possibly happen because C. Stand is a decent player, he was hype in the PBA because he is making his name in international competition, maybe he is just not fit with this current team and he can always find a team that would appreciate him and will make him better. The C Stand that we once think will be a dominant big man failed us, that's the reality.

He failed just now that he is in a new team but I don't think he is a failed player

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I still believe that he will be the same CStand as he is when he is on NorthPort where he is very dominant. We all saw how he is dominating when he is in NorthPort right. Correct me but he was one of the nominees for best player of the conference that time and they also defeated the top seeded NLEX that time when he is still in NorthPort and they are the 8th at that time.

Put him on a different team and he might dominate again. What I think is wrong is that, the system of Coach Tim Cone isn't working for CStand for some reasons that is why he isn't as dominate as he was a few years ago. Him going into Japan might be a better choice for him but lets see how this season works with him. If Ginebra fails again, he might go to Japan and play there. I agree too that many teams will be interested in him. His crafty shots and include also his height. He might be a good defender against other imports out there.

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Quote from: harizen on November 17, 2021, 06:51:06 PM

What can you say guys about Christian Standhardinger playing for the Japan B-League after the PBA Governors Cup?

For me, a good decision. First, he is not fit the Ginebra system (although can be fixed with more games playing at Ginebra). Second, he will be utilized more in the B League, and lastly, career-wise, the paycheck is much better compared to playing at the PBA.

I'm just thinking that "what if", the Barangay able to snatch a title at the Governor's Cup. Will that change Standhardinger's plan to go to B-League? A big compensation is an assurance if Brgy. Ginebra makes it to the championship.

I'm trying to find some articles or sources with this news but I can't find one. Kindly share the link here so that we can read the news because this is a huge news.

Well, lets face it. B-league is a better league compare to PBA in terms of salary and in competition. This is the reason why Filipino Players opted to play at B-league. They are saying that they want experience but aside from that, the money that they will get playing there would be much better than playing in PBA.

Any player that comes from PBA and will play to B-league would always be a good decision and this is one of them. I mean he might play better there and aside from that, he will get more money. I think that we already expected this outcome after Thirdy playing in B-league. Him playing in B-league created a domino effect against young Filipino Basketball players and those professional players as well. Now I don't know what will Ginebra do to let CStan stay but.... I'm thinking that PBA is in trouble right now because more and more players are opting to play outside PH instead of playing here.

That's still a rumor for now but I have a feeling that he will leave the PBA because he is not making a name in the PBA, I mean our expectation from him is not met, so he can choose to make a name in Japan and make a bigger salary at the same time.

I'm sure lots of teams will be interested on him.

But this could possibly happen because C. Stand is a decent player, he was hype in the PBA because he is making his name in international competition, maybe he is just not fit with this current team and he can always find a team that would appreciate him and will make him better. The C Stand that we once think will be a dominant big man failed us, that's the reality.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 18, 2021, 04:51:04 AM

Quote from: harizen on November 17, 2021, 06:51:06 PM

What can you say guys about Christian Standhardinger playing for the Japan B-League after the PBA Governors Cup?

For me, a good decision. First, he is not fit the Ginebra system (although can be fixed with more games playing at Ginebra). Second, he will be utilized more in the B League, and lastly, career-wise, the paycheck is much better compared to playing at the PBA.

I'm just thinking that "what if", the Barangay able to snatch a title at the Governor's Cup. Will that change Standhardinger's plan to go to B-League? A big compensation is an assurance if Brgy. Ginebra makes it to the championship.

I'm trying to find some articles or sources with this news but I can't find one. Kindly share the link here so that we can read the news because this is a huge news.

Well, lets face it. B-league is a better league compare to PBA in terms of salary and in competition. This is the reason why Filipino Players opted to play at B-league. They are saying that they want experience but aside from that, the money that they will get playing there would be much better than playing in PBA.

Any player that comes from PBA and will play to B-league would always be a good decision and this is one of them. I mean he might play better there and aside from that, he will get more money. I think that we already expected this outcome after Thirdy playing in B-league. Him playing in B-league created a domino effect against young Filipino Basketball players and those professional players as well. Now I don't know what will Ginebra do to let CStan stay but.... I'm thinking that PBA is in trouble right now because more and more players are opting to play outside PH instead of playing here.

That's still a rumor for now but I have a feeling that he will leave the PBA because he is not making a name in the PBA, I mean our expectation from him is not met, so he can choose to make a name in Japan and make a bigger salary at the same time.

I'm sure lots of teams will be interested on him.

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Quote from: harizen on November 17, 2021, 06:51:06 PM

What can you say guys about Christian Standhardinger playing for the Japan B-League after the PBA Governors Cup?

For me, a good decision. First, he is not fit the Ginebra system (although can be fixed with more games playing at Ginebra). Second, he will be utilized more in the B League, and lastly, career-wise, the paycheck is much better compared to playing at the PBA.

I'm just thinking that "what if", the Barangay able to snatch a title at the Governor's Cup. Will that change Standhardinger's plan to go to B-League? A big compensation is an assurance if Brgy. Ginebra makes it to the championship.

I'm trying to find some articles or sources with this news but I can't find one. Kindly share the link here so that we can read the news because this is a huge news.

Well, lets face it. B-league is a better league compare to PBA in terms of salary and in competition. This is the reason why Filipino Players opted to play at B-league. They are saying that they want experience but aside from that, the money that they will get playing there would be much better than playing in PBA.

Any player that comes from PBA and will play to B-league would always be a good decision and this is one of them. I mean he might play better there and aside from that, he will get more money. I think that we already expected this outcome after Thirdy playing in B-league. Him playing in B-league created a domino effect against young Filipino Basketball players and those professional players as well. Now I don't know what will Ginebra do to let CStan stay but.... I'm thinking that PBA is in trouble right now because more and more players are opting to play outside PH instead of playing here.

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Quote from: harizen on November 17, 2021, 06:51:06 PM

What can you say guys about Christian Standhardinger playing for the Japan B-League after the PBA Governors Cup?

For me, a good decision. First, he is not fit the Ginebra system (although can be fixed with more games playing at Ginebra). Second, he will be utilized more in the B League, and lastly, career-wise, the paycheck is much better compared to playing at the PBA.

I'm just thinking that "what if", the Barangay able to snatch a title at the Governor's Cup. Will that change Standhardinger's plan to go to B-League? A big compensation is an assurance if Brgy. Ginebra makes it to the championship.

I didn't see that coming; I was in the impression that after he left SMB for a good trade that it's just a way to send him to Gin Kings, but you are right seems he is not fit to Gin Kings system and the timing of his arrival some key players who can help them are unhealthy. Maybe if they are all healthy and have a good working relation to fit him to the team's system, they might not be eliminated that early.

Maybe he sees practicality, having good paychecks and competing with much bigger and better players will expose him and maybe he will enhance more while playing with different sets of people.

He can go back anytime or he can play anywhere, he's still young, and he has the height and skills Tongue

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What can you say guys about Christian Standhardinger playing for the Japan B-League after the PBA Governors Cup?

For me, a good decision. First, he is not fit the Ginebra system (although can be fixed with more games playing at Ginebra). Second, he will be utilized more in the B League, and lastly, career-wise, the paycheck is much better compared to playing at the PBA.

I'm just thinking that "what if", the Barangay able to snatch a title at the Governor's Cup. Will that change Standhardinger's plan to go to B-League? A big compensation is an assurance if Brgy. Ginebra makes it to the championship.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 17, 2021, 11:17:56 AM

Quote from: Viscore on November 15, 2021, 03:24:14 PM

We cannot tell who fits better until we see Manuel start playing with the SMB. However, in comparison, Arwind Santos has helped a lot the SMB team to be successful because he won championships many times with this team. Maybe let's just say that his time has come, accept his fate and probably also prepare for retirement soon as that's life in basketball.

Right now, SMB is still figuring out how to be more competitive to be a dominant team again.

Arwin knew that and he can't do anything it's the franchise decision, better to accept this fate and continue receiving paychecks, and it's true he can start thinking about retiring, he already contribute enough to this league, with those rings it's a good achievement that every players desire to have when stepping to this league.

Santos also is a very accomplished player, he won multiple championships and finals MVP as well.
There's nothing to worry on his side as he will continue to receive his salary and eventually he will retire since he is already in retirement age.
SMB thanked him for his contribution as he did his job very well, but since this is business and time will come the management needs to make a decision for the betterment of the team, he just have to accept it's part of the process.

Quote from: Fredomago on November 17, 2021, 11:17:56 AM

I'm curious though to what contribution both Manuel and Enciso will add to SMB. Not sure but both players came from alaska right? they are familiar with each other, the adjustment with SMB system is very crucial if both of them are fits to what SMB runs a play.

I understand that the SMB management already have a plan prior to the trade, so there's nothing to worry about, they can test them and if they don't work they can find a way to trade them too.

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Quote from: Viscore on November 15, 2021, 03:24:14 PM

We cannot tell who fits better until we see Manuel start playing with the SMB. However, in comparison, Arwind Santos has helped a lot the SMB team to be successful because he won championships many times with this team. Maybe let's just say that his time has come, accept his fate and probably also prepare for retirement soon as that's life in basketball.

Right now, SMB is still figuring out how to be more competitive to be a dominant team again.

Arwin knew that and he can't do anything it's the franchise decision, better to accept this fate and continue receiving paychecks, and it's true he can start thinking about retiring, he already contribute enough to this league, with those rings it's a good achievement that every players desire to have when stepping to this league.

I'm curious though to what contribution both Manuel and Enciso will add to SMB. Not sure but both players came from alaska right? they are familiar with each other, the adjustment with SMB system is very crucial if both of them are fits to what SMB runs a play.

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~~~Well, its still in talks so there is no assurance that he will really change one of the SMC coaches but if he will I think it will be Magnolia Cheesy

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Magnolia's coach and Coach Compton probably have the same style, so I'm not sure if he will be the new coach of the Magnolia, besides, these are just rumors, and if he is really good, then why would Alaska let him go? I don't see any sense in why coaches of SMC teams will be replaced when they are still a competitive team.

Out of the three coaches, Magnolia's coach is considered a newbie. If they will going to replace one of the chance is higher to take him.

It's a rumor but most of the time when something like this went out from any social platforms or any place that there's a talk regarding to PBA related topic, something really happens.

Not saying that it will also happen but the chance is there, we never know what SMC managements are thinking right now.

I like your question about Compton, I also don't see any special skills that he has aside from leaning with good players to work with him.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 17, 2021, 05:37:37 AM

~~~Well, its still in talks so there is no assurance that he will really change one of the SMC coaches but if he will I think it will be Magnolia Cheesy

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Magnolia's coach and Coach Compton probably have the same style, so I'm not sure if he will be the new coach of the Magnolia, besides, these are just rumors, and if he is really good, then why would Alaska let him go? I don't see any sense in why coaches of SMC teams will be replaced when they are still a competitive team.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 16, 2021, 04:37:07 PM

Quote from: carlisle1 on November 16, 2021, 11:24:25 AM

I'm with you, it's no longer the time of Fajardo's domination other team already find the solution and now beating them.

It's about time for Coach Leo to find a new system that will rotate his offense and not focus alone with Fajardo inside. With Terrence and Perez, they already have killers let these two play work hand in hand.

Ross and Fajardo can act as decoy and give more time for Tau and Manuel. Both are good scorers and also have good defensive skills.

If coach Leo Austria stays in SMB, then most likely his plays will remain the same. His plays are just simple, give the ball to Junemar, and if there's a double then pass to the open teammate. These plays were the ones that brought them to history in the PBA with straight championships in the AFC.

There's a rumor that coach Alex Compton is in talks with SMC management, if he replaces coach Leo then most likely their system will change.

When I saw this rumor, the team that went first into my mind was Magnolia.

I think that the system of Coach Leo is still working. He just needs to tweak some of it just like focusing the ball to Junemar because I agree with what you said that Junemar isn't as dominant as he is a few years ago. Many can defend him well already and they know how to stop him that is why they tried to get another big in Mo Tautuaa.

Now if its really true that he will change Coach Leo then its a different story and a different system but I don't think that it will happen knowing what are the achievements Coach Leo made as a coach in SMB. Well, its still in talks so there is no assurance that he will really change one of the SMC coaches but if he will I think it will be Magnolia Cheesy

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 16, 2021, 04:37:07 PM

Quote from: carlisle1 on November 16, 2021, 11:24:25 AM

I'm with you, it's no longer the time of Fajardo's domination other team already find the solution and now beating them.

It's about time for Coach Leo to find a new system that will rotate his offense and not focus alone with Fajardo inside. With Terrence and Perez, they already have killers let these two play work hand in hand.

Ross and Fajardo can act as decoy and give more time for Tau and Manuel. Both are good scorers and also have good defensive skills.

If coach Leo Austria stays in SMB, then most likely his plays will remain the same. His plays are just simple, give the ball to Junemar, and if there's a double then pass to the open teammate. These plays were the ones that brought them to history in the PBA with straight championships in the AFC.

There's a rumor that coach Alex Compton is in talks with SMC management, if he replaces coach Leo then most likely their system will change.

The coaching style of coach Leo is very effective, there's no reason to change him as long as Fajardo is still there, he already specialized it IMO.

Alaska is more on run and gun type of game, SMB can't play at a fast pace because JMF is slowly, so I expect coach Leo to stay for at least a few seasons, however, if SMB still fails to win this coming conference, then most likely the management will be forced to make that decision.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on November 16, 2021, 11:24:25 AM

I'm with you, it's no longer the time of Fajardo's domination other team already find the solution and now beating them.

It's about time for Coach Leo to find a new system that will rotate his offense and not focus alone with Fajardo inside. With Terrence and Perez, they already have killers let these two play work hand in hand.

Ross and Fajardo can act as decoy and give more time for Tau and Manuel. Both are good scorers and also have good defensive skills.

If coach Leo Austria stays in SMB, then most likely his plays will remain the same. His plays are just simple, give the ball to Junemar, and if there's a double then pass to the open teammate. These plays were the ones that brought them to history in the PBA with straight championships in the AFC.

There's a rumor that coach Alex Compton is in talks with SMC management, if he replaces coach Leo then most likely their system will change.

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Quote from: harizen on November 15, 2021, 06:12:48 PM

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As a fan of SMB, I want to see them get Greg Slaughter out of NorthPort and let him play alongside Junemar Fajardo. Some will say that this is too much but considering that these two towers are not in their peak in the next few years, this could happen.

Let those giants be with different teams so big men are spread, regardless if they are in prime or not. Maybe the best thing to do for SMB is not to rely on big men anymore but to focus on what they are been known since then, their shooting guards.

It's been several seasons that SMB is confident that they have JMF but since he's now seemed to slow down, SMB especially their Coach should create a new strategy.

I'm with you, it's no longer the time of Fajardo's domination other team already find the solution and now beating them.

It's about time for Coach Leo to find a new system that will rotate his offense and not focus alone with Fajardo inside. With Terrence and Perez, they already have killers let these two play work hand in hand.

Ross and Fajardo can act as decoy and give more time for Tau and Manuel. Both are good scorers and also have good defensive skills.

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