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October 25, 2021, 07:00:02 PM
What happened now to Jackson Corpuz? Cleared to play the next game or not?

Regardless, he's not contributing much to the Magnolia. He is inconsistent. With or without him on the floor, there's no bearing. No offense to his followers here but just stating what I observed. No adjustment and stepping up is seen at this player even he is given a good playing time by Coach Chito Victolero.

He already has an issue about that too much physical game when he clashes with Cliff Hodge during their series against Meralco.
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October 25, 2021, 05:11:13 PM

Just to change the discussion regarding officiating, I like to point out the adjustment (or I considered it as a test strategy) that Magnolia did during Game 3.

We all know that no guards or any forwards from Magnolia can keep up with the phase of how TNT's Mikey Williams is playing. Magnolia is having a hard time how to stop his dominance. In their Game 3 win, M. Williams was still able to produce 39 big points for the TNT despite a loss. That's not a usual production for any players in the league with consistency.

During the 4th Quarter, Magnolia assigned the veteran Rafi Reavis to guard the unstoppable M. Williams, and guess what, he only shot 1 out of 5 attempts from the rainbow area. Effective or not, looks like Reavis is able to slow down him although just for a single quarter.

TNT will certainly make an adjustment too in game 4, they cannot afford another loss and allow the Magnolia to knock out the door of opportunity to tie the series. Getting a 3-1 lead gives them a big breathing room and I think they can still make it even without Troy Rosario who was reportedly doubtful for the rest of the series.

They all make an adjustment every game, just like the TNT vs SMB series, it was a roller coaster ride where the series end in 7 games, in this series, it's possible if Magnolia will be able to come back to even the series and since Troy is down, they'll take it as an opportunity to attack the paint and it's time for Calvin Abueva to shine who was not so much of a factor in the PBA Finals yet.

Energy is what the Magnolia needs and it's good that Jalalon receives some credit publicly as he has been playing with so much energy.

Victolero credits Jalalon as Magnolia energizer in Game 3 win

Troy Rosario plays a big impact on TNT and missing Game 4 or I think the whole series somehow lessens the power of TNT. But that's not the end as TNT can always make an adjustment. Magnolia should take advantage of that and try to copy their performance in the last game or much even better.

I still don't see TNT being handicapped because of Troy Rosario's injury. If Magnolia won't be able to even the series, goodbye to them now. There's no magic to defeat TNT 3 times consecutively in a row unless another main player of TNT will be injured. Hope no more injuries the same on Magnolia.
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October 25, 2021, 04:49:39 PM

Just to change the discussion regarding officiating, I like to point out the adjustment (or I considered it as a test strategy) that Magnolia did during Game 3.

We all know that no guards or any forwards from Magnolia can keep up with the phase of how TNT's Mikey Williams is playing. Magnolia is having a hard time how to stop his dominance. In their Game 3 win, M. Williams was still able to produce 39 big points for the TNT despite a loss. That's not a usual production for any players in the league with consistency.

During the 4th Quarter, Magnolia assigned the veteran Rafi Reavis to guard the unstoppable M. Williams, and guess what, he only shot 1 out of 5 attempts from the rainbow area. Effective or not, looks like Reavis is able to slow down him although just for a single quarter.

TNT will certainly make an adjustment too in game 4, they cannot afford another loss and allow the Magnolia to knock out the door of opportunity to tie the series. Getting a 3-1 lead gives them a big breathing room and I think they can still make it even without Troy Rosario who was reportedly doubtful for the rest of the series.

They all make an adjustment every game, just like the TNT vs SMB series, it was a roller coaster ride where the series end in 7 games, in this series, it's possible if Magnolia will be able to come back to even the series and since Troy is down, they'll take it as an opportunity to attack the paint and it's time for Calvin Abueva to shine who was not so much of a factor in the PBA Finals yet.

Energy is what the Magnolia needs and it's good that Jalalon receives some credit publicly as he has been playing with so much energy.

Victolero credits Jalalon as Magnolia energizer in Game 3 win
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October 25, 2021, 04:02:17 PM

Just to change the discussion regarding officiating, I like to point out the adjustment (or I considered it as a test strategy) that Magnolia did during Game 3.

We all know that no guards or any forwards from Magnolia can keep up with the phase of how TNT's Mikey Williams is playing. Magnolia is having a hard time how to stop his dominance. In their Game 3 win, M. Williams was still able to produce 39 big points for the TNT despite a loss. That's not a usual production for any players in the league with consistency.

During the 4th Quarter, Magnolia assigned the veteran Rafi Reavis to guard the unstoppable M. Williams, and guess what, he only shot 1 out of 5 attempts from the rainbow area. Effective or not, looks like Reavis is able to slow down him although just for a single quarter.

TNT will certainly make an adjustment too in game 4, they cannot afford another loss and allow the Magnolia to knock out the door of opportunity to tie the series. Getting a 3-1 lead gives them a big breathing room and I think they can still make it even without Troy Rosario who was reportedly doubtful for the rest of the series.
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October 25, 2021, 03:44:33 PM

Just to change the discussion regarding officiating, I like to point out the adjustment (or I considered it as a test strategy) that Magnolia did during Game 3.

We all know that no guards or any forwards from Magnolia can keep up with the phase of how TNT's Mikey Williams is playing. Magnolia is having a hard time how to stop his dominance. In their Game 3 win, M. Williams was still able to produce 39 big points for the TNT despite a loss. That's not a usual production for any players in the league with consistency.

During the 4th Quarter, Magnolia assigned the veteran Rafi Reavis to guard the unstoppable M. Williams, and guess what, he only shot 1 out of 5 attempts from the rainbow area. Effective or not, looks like Reavis is able to slow down him although just for a single quarter.
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October 25, 2021, 03:36:20 PM
I'm a Mags fan but I didn't like the refs' call to Heruela and there was no foul. That will be a problem for TNT now if only Mikey Williams makes the team, it will be difficult for them to win the Mags even if Mikey scores 50 more. It's c Mikey Williams monster on offense but very weak on defense or just really lazy? Paul lee's defense is even better, he can be the scoring champion, bpc and Roy but never be mvp. if only he was diligent in defense, then he could be a rookie/mvp like Benjie Paras, eh, in case he's annoyed, just look at his defense like a statue. how can that be if the offense is unlucky?
The PBA already relieved the referee who made a bad calls in game three and this is a proof that there’s no foul and lucky to Magnolia by that time. Also with the injury player in game 3 this will be a huge challenge for TNT to remain on top, I’m sure Magnolia will take advantage of that so TNT must always be ready. Offense of TNT should be contributed properly so they can still win, they must play as a team.

They should take advantage to even the series, if they failed expect that TNT will end this series in game 5. It's been a long delayed for TNT to win another title and with coach Chot they will not give any chance to their opponents if they see the advantage. William really playing big. He's being backed up by both Castro and Pogoy allowing him to bring his best game without any interruptions from these two veteran stars.

We will see if how Magnolia will adjust and take every opportunity to tie this series and forced to extend their survival.

It's needed to forget about what happened last game 3 and both teams should focus on their strategy this coming game 4.. Good luck!
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October 25, 2021, 03:21:55 PM
I'm a Mags fan but I didn't like the refs' call to Heruela and there was no foul. That will be a problem for TNT now if only Mikey Williams makes the team, it will be difficult for them to win the Mags even if Mikey scores 50 more. It's c Mikey Williams monster on offense but very weak on defense or just really lazy? Paul lee's defense is even better, he can be the scoring champion, bpc and Roy but never be mvp. if only he was diligent in defense, then he could be a rookie/mvp like Benjie Paras, eh, in case he's annoyed, just look at his defense like a statue. how can that be if the offense is unlucky?
The PBA already relieved the referee who made a bad calls in game three and this is a proof that there’s no foul and lucky to Magnolia by that time. Also with the injury player in game 3 this will be a huge challenge for TNT to remain on top, I’m sure Magnolia will take advantage of that so TNT must always be ready. Offense of TNT should be contributed properly so they can still win, they must play as a team.
TNT has no problem with their offense as Mikey Williams is very unstoppable, their problem now is their defense inside as without Troy Rosaria, TNT is at least not 100% anymore and as you said, Magnolia would take advantage of that. However, they still have big men who can play and contribute, TNT have Kelly Williams, Marcelo, and Poy Erram.
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October 25, 2021, 03:06:57 PM
I'm a Mags fan but I didn't like the refs' call to Heruela and there was no foul. That will be a problem for TNT now if only Mikey Williams makes the team, it will be difficult for them to win the Mags even if Mikey scores 50 more. It's c Mikey Williams monster on offense but very weak on defense or just really lazy? Paul lee's defense is even better, he can be the scoring champion, bpc and Roy but never be mvp. if only he was diligent in defense, then he could be a rookie/mvp like Benjie Paras, eh, in case he's annoyed, just look at his defense like a statue. how can that be if the offense is unlucky?
The PBA already relieved the referee who made a bad calls in game three and this is a proof that there’s no foul and lucky to Magnolia by that time. Also with the injury player in game 3 this will be a huge challenge for TNT to remain on top, I’m sure Magnolia will take advantage of that so TNT must always be ready. Offense of TNT should be contributed properly so they can still win, they must play as a team.
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October 25, 2021, 11:43:17 AM
I'm a Mags fan but I didn't like the refs' call to Heruela and there was no foul. That will be a problem for TNT now if only Mikey Williams makes the team, it will be difficult for them to win the Mags even if Mikey scores 50 more. It's c Mikey Williams monster on offense but very weak on defense or just really lazy? Paul lee's defense is even better, he can be the scoring champion, bpc and Roy but never be mvp. if only he was diligent in defense, then he could be a rookie/mvp like Benjie Paras, eh, in case he's annoyed, just look at his defense like a statue. how can that be if the offense is unlucky?
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October 25, 2021, 11:23:46 AM
Did Jackson Corpus gets investigated if the foul was intentional or not?

Look at the video and the reaction of the viewers, they say it's intentional and Corpuz did a dirty job over Troy Rosario.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=helR3OgR0oo

I played basketball and that's the one thing I'm afraid will happen to me, fortunately, it didn't. Damn what a bad fall, I could say that there's a little bit of momentum on the side of Jackson Corpus and a little bit of intent to push, hard call if I were the referee  Grin.

Things are getting ugly now in the PBA and it seems that they are self-destructing. Issues of game rigging, bad officiating, and players opting to play in Japan, could PBA survive these issues?



We understand that there's a tough competition between these two teams, but they should always remember they are still family and that brotherhood will remain. Jackson could have held Troy Rosario and that would have prevented him a bad fall, maybe Magnolia are just too desperate to win the game and they forget that basketball is a game.

True, I also play basketball and the very first thing in my mind when playing is to make sure that there's no accident that will happen not just to me but also to all the players that I'm playing with. I agree that this kind of action should be investigated a very clear intentional act. Rosario is not by far for not to try holding him and prevent this kind of fall.

I see why Castro reacts that way. He clearly sees that there's no intention of Corpuz to help and avoid that hard fall.  Angry

Hoping that Rosario's health aside from that finger but those other long-term effects of that hard fall will be detected and prevented
for much bigger damages. Sad
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October 25, 2021, 09:29:59 AM

A short update regarding the no-contact foul controversy. The referee that whistled the call is already dismissed and will not officiate with the future games anymore and Commissioner already said that they are investigating the incident. Its clearly a wrong call we know that. Smiley
Do you think something will be cooked after this dismissal? 

are they going to investigate or just fired the officiating ref and forget about what happen?
Very poor decision coming from that referee, but who knows how much he's going to take
after doing his participation with game fixing?

Remember that same rumors way back last NBA season with CP3? I just can't recall the
name of that officiating ref who allegedly doing stuff that really affects CP3's games.

Let see if we will hear more about this game 3 issues and if that ref will voice something
out to trigger the issue with these rumors  Wink

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October 25, 2021, 08:10:34 AM
Did Jackson Corpus gets investigated if the foul was intentional or not?

Look at the video and the reaction of the viewers, they say it's intentional and Corpuz did a dirty job over Troy Rosario.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=helR3OgR0oo

I played basketball and that's the one thing I'm afraid will happen to me, fortunately, it didn't. Damn what a bad fall, I could say that there's a little bit of momentum on the side of Jackson Corpus and a little bit of intent to push, hard call if I were the referee  Grin.

Things are getting ugly now in the PBA and it seems that they are self-destructing. Issues of game rigging, bad officiating, and players opting to play in Japan, could PBA survive these issues?



We understand that there's a tough competition between these two teams, but they should always remember they are still family and that brotherhood will remain. Jackson could have held Troy Rosario and that would have prevented him a bad fall, maybe Magnolia are just too desperate to win the game and they forget that basketball is a game.
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October 25, 2021, 07:56:01 AM
Did Jackson Corpus gets investigated if the foul was intentional or not?

Look at the video and the reaction of the viewers, they say it's intentional and Corpuz did a dirty job over Troy Rosario.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=helR3OgR0oo

I played basketball and that's the one thing I'm afraid will happen to me, fortunately, it didn't. Damn what a bad fall, I could say that there's a little bit of momentum on the side of Jackson Corpus and a little bit of intent to push, hard call if I were the referee  Grin.

Things are getting ugly now in the PBA and it seems that they are self-destructing. Issues of game rigging, bad officiating, and players opting to play in Japan, could PBA survive these issues?

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October 25, 2021, 07:51:59 AM

A short update regarding the no-contact foul controversy. The referee that whistled the call is already dismissed and will not officiate with the future games anymore and Commissioner already said that they are investigating the incident. Its clearly a wrong call we know that. Smiley

That's good news, at least PBA is doing something to discipline those referees who are making a questionable call, that's the way to protect their reputation, but what is done is done already, it cannot be reverted and Magnolia has taken the game 3 already.

The next move should be Jackson Corpus be suspended for the rest of the PBA Finals.
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October 25, 2021, 07:41:01 AM



I watched the video and even the commentators laughed at the referee's call.

I like to say that this is an obvious wrong call by the referees but if there is only a rule to revert a foul call then it must be applied here. Even Heruela himself was shocked at the no contact foul.
For me, saying the game is rigged just because of one missed call is unfair and in fact there are some calls from the referees too that is considered a wrong call. Flops. That is also a wrong call. This is a wrong call but not a rigged game at least for me. That is what I see Smiley

I watched this video on social media and what is alarming is the people were talking about PBA has been not the same these years because of such calls that's why most of the players that we know are now in the Japanese league playing. Are we really losing this association? I mean, it's a big loss for all of us because we grow older watching the games all the time and now the players are not gonna be the same next season because most of the star players will play outside the country. Are heading to an era where we no longer have any local professional basketball games to watch in our country?
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October 25, 2021, 07:36:28 AM
Update on Troy Rosario's status.

https://web.facebook.com/OneSportsPHL/photos/a.678816935473756/4977930102229063/



Bet on Magnolia in game 3, TNT is now short-handed.

I wonder what's gonna be the line in game 3.
You mean Game 4 right and not Game 3??
Well, I just watched the news on our television regarding this incident and by the way he fell over Corpuz its kinda obvious at least for me that he will not play the whole series. Back first and then he dislocated his finger. Just hoping that he will be fine after what happened to him. He might be ok to play in the next conference I think. For the bettors, Rosario is a big piece for the team and losing him is a big factor but take note that they still have Williams and Pogoy might shoot as well. With the absence of Rosario, players like Marcelo, Khobuntin and Kelly Williams can fill at least his role as a PF/Center.

A short update regarding the no-contact foul controversy. The referee that whistled the call is already dismissed and will not officiate with the future games anymore and Commissioner already said that they are investigating the incident. Its clearly a wrong call we know that. Smiley
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October 25, 2021, 07:24:12 AM
Did Jackson Corpus gets investigated if the foul was intentional or not?

Look at the video and the reaction of the viewers, they say it's intentional and Corpuz did a dirty job over Troy Rosario.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=helR3OgR0oo
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October 25, 2021, 06:29:41 AM
Update on Troy Rosario's status.

https://web.facebook.com/OneSportsPHL/photos/a.678816935473756/4977930102229063/



Bet on Magnolia in game 3, TNT is now short-handed.

I wonder what's gonna be the line in game 3.
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October 25, 2021, 05:03:33 AM
I can say that magnolia may win or even force this to do or die game, but TNT still has the better chance of winning the title.

If they cannot stop Mikey Williams, that would not happen.

IMO, Magnolia might be able to win another game but that will be enough for them as this series might end in game 5 or 6 in and Mikey Williams being a Rookie will receive a finals MVP ( not sure if he makes history here).

He is really the big gap from this series, unlike with SMB where Romeo and Ross able to limit him with Magnolia no one until now who finds a way to stop this young star. Adjustment over another, If magnolia wants to extend their chance, they need to have more strategy aside from using the help of the officials Grin

Hopefully, those unexplained calls will no longer be present coming this game 4. TNT is not new with these kinds of Calls, they have that same issue back against SMB the time they've got Terrence Jones. Roll Eyes

We can't expect to see that if the management wants this series to reach game 7.

Though we, fans do not like these questionable calls we all want to see this series be longer (unless you bet on the TNT to win in the series).

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The chance is slim for them
As of now, yes, but if Magnolia will again win in game 4 and even the series, I think the chance is already 50/50 and that's where the betting will become more exciting since no home court advantage or whatsoever, only the hungrier team will win.
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October 25, 2021, 02:42:13 AM
Troy Rosario's injury would affect the TNT's defense IMO.

The injury was serious if you look how the hand was dislocated, and I don't see a chance that he could play in game 4 even if he is not declared out yet.

https://mb.com.ph/2021/10/24/troy-rosario-dislocates-finger-after-bad-fall-in-game-3-loss/

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It’s still too early to tell if the injury will affect Rosario’s status for Game 4, tentatively set for Wednesday.

Rosario has been one of TNT’s most important players during its run to the championship series.

Well, good thing TNT has more time to figure out what to do in case Troy will be officially ruled out, but hopefully he will recover soon as TNT has the best chance to win a championship now. It's now or never.

Though Troy is very important to the team they have bigs that are willing to step up to win.

I don't want to expect that Troy will be available in game 4 but I expect for the TNT to bounce back after a loss in game 3.
As Mikey Williams continues to be playing like an MVP, we can always trust the TNT to win in any game.

Anyway, good luck, and whatever team you'll pick, maybe the best capper wins.
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