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Quote from: Vaculin on October 22, 2021, 06:24:56 AM

I'm not sure if they can still come back in this game, TNT had 16 points lead in the 1st half, they need to have a strong 3rd quarter for them to be able to make it a close game or a single-digit lead by the TNT only. They did not show the aggressiveness that they need and their shot selections were not perfectly planned, I hope they could at least cover the spread.

You are right, they have a strong 3rd quarter and actually, they were able to close with TNT by trimming their lead to 4 points only, but TNT came back and they are now leading by 9 points, but don't worry, there's still plenty of time, who knows we will see a surprise here and Magnolia will win.

edit : Calvin Abueva has fouled out, Magnolia in trouble now. Lips sealed

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Winding down.

I'm not sure if they can still come back in this game, TNT had 16 points lead in the 1st half, they need to have a strong 3rd quarter for them to be able to make it a close game or a single-digit lead by the TNT only. They did not show the aggressiveness that they need and their shot selections were not perfectly planned, I hope they could at least cover the spread.

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Looks like we are seeing the same scenario in game 1, Paul is not 100% and Sanggalang, there's a big mismatch here and we saw how they got dominated by the TNT who are enjoying a comfortable lead now.

Good luck bettors, win or lose, we still have game 3 for Magnolia to win, if not, then the series will be over soon.

44-59 is the score now in favor of TNT.

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Quote from: goaldigger on October 22, 2021, 02:25:01 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on October 22, 2021, 01:43:10 AM

Wish me luck "mga kabayan".

What site you are placing your bets? Curious and interested to try that platform as well and maybe I can still ride since more games to go before this season end.

That's Bitsler.com, I'm also using the site ever since they have a sports betting attached to the platform.
it's good because the limit is low, so it's good for gamblers who have a small budget in sports betting.

The downside is you cannot do a price boost unlike in Sportsbet.

Quote from: goaldigger on October 22, 2021, 02:25:01 AM

Anyway, Magnolia have to win because if TNT takes the lead it will be hard for them to recover though of course we know how good Magnolia team are, this is an exciting finals seriously, a big surprise not to see the top seeded teams. Btw, good luck on your bets have fun!

Looks like the line will remain the same as it's not moving anymore, it will settle at +4 and this is already a good handicap if you are in favor of Magnolia to win.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 22, 2021, 01:43:10 AM

Wish me luck "mga kabayan".

What site you are placing your bets? Curious and interested to try that platform as well and maybe I can still ride since more games to go before this season end.

Anyway, Magnolia have to win because if TNT takes the lead it will be hard for them to recover though of course we know how good Magnolia team are, this is an exciting finals seriously, a big surprise not to see the top seeded teams. Btw, good luck on your bets have fun!

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I will go with the flow, let's hope that Magnolia will even the series so we have a happy day with our wins.

I have some bets here that I like the odds, if this hits, I would enjoy drinking tonight. lol

Wish me luck "mga kabayan".

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Quote from: Finestream on October 21, 2021, 03:58:39 PM

no way Magnolia will go down 0-2, so after this we will see the series to be even.

I think saying there's no way Magnolia will go down 0-2 is too much. Disregarding their Game 1 performance, TNT is really playing at their best performance so far and that was hard to deal with. Just look how confident TNT rookie is and I think he's the only rookie in 5 years, for let's say, that dominating the numbers consistently for his team. Also having good role players from point guard to center, TNT is almost complete.

I'm not saying Magnolia will go down 0-2 but for a general analyst, it can't be concluded like that. Goodluck to them in the later game.

Magnolia has to win game 2, they need this win otherwise they won't have the confidence anymore going to game 3 where when they lose they will be put at the brink of elimination. Scratch game 1, that's totally embarrassing for Magnolia but this team does not easily give up, they'll bounce back for sure, so let's be positive for that.

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Quote from: Finestream on October 21, 2021, 03:58:39 PM

no way Magnolia will go down 0-2, so after this we will see the series to be even.

I think saying there's no way Magnolia will go down 0-2 is too much. Disregarding their Game 1 performance, TNT is really playing at their best performance so far and that was hard to deal with. Just look how confident TNT rookie is and I think he's the only rookie in 5 years, for let's say, that dominating the numbers consistently for his team. Also having good role players from point guard to center, TNT is almost complete.

I'm not saying Magnolia will go down 0-2 but for a general analyst, it can't be concluded like that. Goodluck to them in the later game.

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 21, 2021, 03:31:05 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on October 21, 2021, 12:19:38 PM

Time for Magnolia to fight back and equal the series, giving TNT 2-0 will bring more confidence. Wink

The odds are always the same in game 1, Magnolia is now at +4.5, so there's an indication that TNT might again win this battle.

Sanggalang could play in game 2, but how long and healthy he will be able to play.
As per the report;

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/10/21/21/pba-back-spasms-limit-magnolias-sangalang-in-game-1

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"(We) will find ways on how to manage his injury so he can play tomorrow (in Game 2)," Victolero said in a message to ABS-CBN News.

If Sangalang continues to play limited minutes then I think it's money in the bag for TNT Katropa. He is one of the most important players of the Hotshots sd his contribution to the offensive and defensive chores is vital. Without him, Poy Erram will continue to feast on the inside as we all know that his confidence is a little bit high considering that he is fresh from a win on a battle with Junemar and Mo.

I just hope that coach Chito will find the right chemistry this time as to not jeopardize the injury of his bigs and still put up someone that can defend Erram this game2.

Good luck to all Magnolia backers here and let's continue to support the PBA as well.

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Game 1 the total was only 158 points, now the total is over/under 174.5. I think this one is easy, although we might not be able to see a high turnovers of Magnolia in this game ( I assume), I still believe they will also play a physical game and they will put more defense in game 2.

So I'll follow the trend, should be under 174.5.

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 21, 2021, 03:31:05 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on October 21, 2021, 12:19:38 PM

Time for Magnolia to fight back and equal the series, giving TNT 2-0 will bring more confidence. Wink

The odds are always the same in game 1, Magnolia is now at +4.5, so there's an indication that TNT might again win this battle.

Sanggalang could play in game 2, but how long and healthy he will be able to play.
As per the report;

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/10/21/21/pba-back-spasms-limit-magnolias-sangalang-in-game-1

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"(We) will find ways on how to manage his injury so he can play tomorrow (in Game 2)," Victolero said in a message to ABS-CBN News.

It could be the same but it's still nice to bet on Magnolia as they don't want to lose another game again. They were awful last game, no way it will happen again, adjustment will be made and though Sanggalang has some injury problem, I know he understands how important this game is, no way Magnolia will go down 0-2, so after this we will see the series to be even.

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 21, 2021, 12:19:38 PM

Time for Magnolia to fight back and equal the series, giving TNT 2-0 will bring more confidence. Wink

The odds are always the same in game 1, Magnolia is now at +4.5, so there's an indication that TNT might again win this battle.

Sanggalang could play in game 2, but how long and healthy he will be able to play.
As per the report;

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/10/21/21/pba-back-spasms-limit-magnolias-sangalang-in-game-1

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"(We) will find ways on how to manage his injury so he can play tomorrow (in Game 2)," Victolero said in a message to ABS-CBN News.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 21, 2021, 08:39:30 AM

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Quote from: Maslate on October 21, 2021, 07:09:30 AM

What happen to Sanggalang in game 1? I noticed that he does not play the full minutes, is he dealing with some injury problem?

This is the reason why he only played limited minutes.

https://mb.com.ph/2021/10/20/magnolia-coach-reveals-reason-behind-ian-sangalangs-limited-minutes-in-game-1/

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A back injury forced Ian Sangalang to play just 10 minutes in Magnolia Pambansang Manok’s 88-70 loss to TNT in Game 1 of the PBA Philippine Cup Finals, coach Chito Victolero said.

Victolero bared in a text message that the Hotshots top big man was dealing with back spasms which also led to the decision to sit out Sangalang for the rest of the second half with the Tropang Giga up by a huge margin.

Hopefully, he is good to go in game 2 as Magnolia really needed him, his contribution in the semi-finals was huge, he needs to carry that in the finals.

It will be a huge problem for Magnolia if Sanggalang is not available in game 2. They have bigs like Reavis, but he is not getting any younger, Troy Rosario and Erram are both quick enough for him, and they are stronger since they are younger. Abueva and Sanggalang are a good pair inside as they play unselfish basketball, so without Sanggalang, Abueva's attack is so predictable.

Hopefully Sanggalang will play. He's part of the rally of Magnolia and pairing him with healthy and good minutes to Abueva. They are competitive against Erram and Rosario.

But, not only Sanggalang and Abueva but also Lee and all the front runners of Magnolia they also need to help and stand against the challenged TNT guards are dominating them. Paul Lee needs to lead his team.

Time for Magnolia to fight back and equal the series, giving TNT 2-0 will bring more confidence. Wink

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Quote from: Yamifoud on October 21, 2021, 07:25:26 AM

Quote from: Maslate on October 21, 2021, 07:09:30 AM

What happen to Sanggalang in game 1? I noticed that he does not play the full minutes, is he dealing with some injury problem?

This is the reason why he only played limited minutes.

https://mb.com.ph/2021/10/20/magnolia-coach-reveals-reason-behind-ian-sangalangs-limited-minutes-in-game-1/

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A back injury forced Ian Sangalang to play just 10 minutes in Magnolia Pambansang Manok’s 88-70 loss to TNT in Game 1 of the PBA Philippine Cup Finals, coach Chito Victolero said.

Victolero bared in a text message that the Hotshots top big man was dealing with back spasms which also led to the decision to sit out Sangalang for the rest of the second half with the Tropang Giga up by a huge margin.

Hopefully, he is good to go in game 2 as Magnolia really needed him, his contribution in the semi-finals was huge, he needs to carry that in the finals.

It will be a huge problem for Magnolia if Sanggalang is not available in game 2. They have bigs like Reavis, but he is not getting any younger, Troy Rosario and Erram are both quick enough for him, and they are stronger since they are younger. Abueva and Sanggalang are a good pair inside as they play unselfish basketball, so without Sanggalang, Abueva's attack is so predictable.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on October 21, 2021, 01:47:52 AM

If PBA is not rigged, there's no way the Magnolia will be able to beat the TNT in game 2.

Sorry, I'm just saying the facts, TNT just played very well that Magnolia looks like a bunch of rookies.
TNT had offense everywhere, they are clicking because they are confident in making shots.

by the way, Williams might missed game 2.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/tnt-s-kelly-williams-hurts-back-in-game-1-win-over-magnolia-a793-20211020

Its because of turnovers, injuries and maybe a bad day for the MAG that is why they lost the game.
You might be right that PBA is rigged if that happens but in the end, we don't have any evidence to prove that it is rigged so... yeah. I just hope that MAG will make some adjustments after their loss and I hope that Sangalang and Lee will play better than Game 1.
More games = more entertainment and more revenue for the league. A win-win situation.

TNT is just a strong team and they are the favorites to win the championship. The absence of Williams will not be felt that much even though he performed very well in Game 1 because they still have big guys to fill the gap.

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Quote from: Maslate on October 21, 2021, 07:09:30 AM

What happen to Sanggalang in game 1? I noticed that he does not play the full minutes, is he dealing with some injury problem?

This is the reason why he only played limited minutes.

https://mb.com.ph/2021/10/20/magnolia-coach-reveals-reason-behind-ian-sangalangs-limited-minutes-in-game-1/

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A back injury forced Ian Sangalang to play just 10 minutes in Magnolia Pambansang Manok’s 88-70 loss to TNT in Game 1 of the PBA Philippine Cup Finals, coach Chito Victolero said.

Victolero bared in a text message that the Hotshots top big man was dealing with back spasms which also led to the decision to sit out Sangalang for the rest of the second half with the Tropang Giga up by a huge margin.

Hopefully, he is good to go in game 2 as Magnolia really needed him, his contribution in the semi-finals was huge, he needs to carry that in the finals.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 21, 2021, 06:21:46 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on October 21, 2021, 01:47:52 AM

If PBA is not rigged, there's no way the Magnolia will be able to beat the TNT in game 2.

Sorry, I'm just saying the facts, TNT just played very well that Magnolia looks like a bunch of rookies.
TNT had offense everywhere, they are clicking because they are confident in making shots.

by the way, Williams might missed game 2.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/tnt-s-kelly-williams-hurts-back-in-game-1-win-over-magnolia-a793-20211020

Turn-overs killed the chance of Magnolia on that game 1 but surely there will be some adjustments that will be made by them to avoid another blowout loss. Remember the SMB and TNT series where most of the games were blowouts and we thought that SMB or TNT can't recover on the next game but they did. This series might follow the pattern of the semi-final series between SMB and TNT so better watch out for that.

Bet for Magnolia ML @2.39 boosted.

I guess I would not bet for now yet, TNT has dominated them in all angles and it's too risky to bet on them for now.
Abueva has to step up his game, more hassle from him so they'll dominate inside, if they can't then that would be a huge problem.

What happen to Sanggalang in game 1? I noticed that he does not play the full minutes, is he dealing with some injury problem?

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Quote from: Kelvinid on October 21, 2021, 01:47:52 AM

If PBA is not rigged, there's no way the Magnolia will be able to beat the TNT in game 2.

Sorry, I'm just saying the facts, TNT just played very well that Magnolia looks like a bunch of rookies.
TNT had offense everywhere, they are clicking because they are confident in making shots.

by the way, Williams might missed game 2.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/tnt-s-kelly-williams-hurts-back-in-game-1-win-over-magnolia-a793-20211020

Turn-overs killed the chance of Magnolia on that game 1 but surely there will be some adjustments that will be made by them to avoid another blowout loss. Remember the SMB and TNT series where most of the games were blowouts and we thought that SMB or TNT can't recover on the next game but they did. This series might follow the pattern of the semi-final series between SMB and TNT so better watch out for that.

Bet for Magnolia ML @2.39 boosted.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on October 21, 2021, 01:47:52 AM

If PBA is not rigged, there's no way the Magnolia will be able to beat the TNT in game 2.

Sorry, I'm just saying the facts, TNT just played very well that Magnolia looks like a bunch of rookies.
TNT had offense everywhere, they are clicking because they are confident in making shots.

by the way, Williams might missed game 2.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/tnt-s-kelly-williams-hurts-back-in-game-1-win-over-magnolia-a793-20211020

That's the advantage last game, TNT is clicking and they covered every sides of the court,

Each plays are really materializing for them, if Magnolia unable to bring something out and let this same thing to happen, TNT will

continue to dominate and will have a better edge from this series. Magnolia needs to find any possible system to defend and not to

let TNT dominates them in all the aspect of the game.

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If PBA is not rigged, there's no way the Magnolia will be able to beat the TNT in game 2.

Sorry, I'm just saying the facts, TNT just played very well that Magnolia looks like a bunch of rookies.
TNT had offense everywhere, they are clicking because they are confident in making shots.

by the way, Williams might missed game 2.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/tnt-s-kelly-williams-hurts-back-in-game-1-win-over-magnolia-a793-20211020

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