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Quote from: Fredomago on October 11, 2021, 02:13:37 AM

Quote from: mirakal on October 11, 2021, 01:43:55 AM

I'm sure TNT will adjust in game 5 as they want to win that game. It's really a bad loss for them, their worst so far this conference but I'm sure it will not happen anymore. Maybe TNT has a some hangover on how they were able to dominate the SMB in game 3, but bounce back is real, SMB just do what they should and that is killing TNT in game 4.

Tonight, the line would be available and I think SMB will be listed as slight favorite only.

I agree Kabayan! TNT will adjust, Coach Chot expect the kind of adjustment SMB will give them after that win last game 3, see all the veterans with extended minutes inside, that's the SMB we used to love they are all there to lift each other and to play together.
Now it's time for Chot Reyes to do his job, same deal with Leo Austria. Not everything is in the hands of the players, but coaches' design plays are very important.

We might expect TNT to counter and not to allow SMB to bully them with that tight defense. They've got the talent and they know that somehow they can match everything. They just need to prepare harder.

Aggressiveness with control, Players wise both teams have a winning combo not undersize or lack of talents if advantages, both deserve the win.

I doubt Tautua would do the same contribution he did in game 4, things will be different in game 5, TNT will be more aggressive with their defense and they will once again impose their effective strategy against SMB. As far as this series goes, I only see one game where SMB really dominate, the other 3 games, it was TNT who were dominating but sometimes they are careless which resulted to a heartbreaking loss.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 11, 2021, 01:43:55 AM

I'm sure TNT will adjust in game 5 as they want to win that game. It's really a bad loss for them, their worst so far this conference but I'm sure it will not happen anymore. Maybe TNT has a some hangover on how they were able to dominate the SMB in game 3, but bounce back is real, SMB just do what they should and that is killing TNT in game 4.

Tonight, the line would be available and I think SMB will be listed as slight favorite only.

I agree Kabayan! TNT will adjust, Coach Chot expect the kind of adjustment SMB will give them after that win last game 3, see all the veterans with extended minutes inside, that's the SMB we used to love they are all there to lift each other and to play together.
Now it's time for Chot Reyes to do his job, same deal with Leo Austria. Not everything is in the hands of the players, but coaches' design plays are very important.

We might expect TNT to counter and not to allow SMB to bully them with that tight defense. They've got the talent and they know that somehow they can match everything. They just need to prepare harder.

Aggressiveness with control, Players wise both teams have a winning combo not undersize or lack of talents if advantages, both deserve the win.

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Quote from: harizen on October 10, 2021, 05:24:03 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on October 10, 2021, 03:19:54 PM

Yes, I'm still taking the SMB in game 5, with what they've shown in game 4, there's no reason for me to not back them, they are playing really well, so who knows they would do the same in game 5. Now, the pressure is on the TNT as they let the SMB tied the series and they allow them to beat them big time in the last game.

Not surprised with the SMB win but rather I'm amazed at their Game 4 performance. It's the first time that TNT struggles throughout the entire game. What a performance that they were able to make big leads up to 37 points. No team does that against TNT this conference.

I hope they will maintain that firepower. In Game 1 to 3, SMB was always behind and putting efforts to make a rally. They changed that in Game 4. Like to see the series extending until last. It's like watching the same Finals experience already.

I'm sure TNT will adjust in game 5 as they want to win that game. It's really a bad loss for them, their worst so far this conference but I'm sure it will not happen anymore. Maybe TNT has a some hangover on how they were able to dominate the SMB in game 3, but bounce back is real, SMB just do what they should and that is killing TNT in game 4.

Tonight, the line would be available and I think SMB will be listed as slight favorite only.

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Wow! I did not see it coming, after a bad performance by the SMB in game 3, they bounce back strong to win by blowout and tie the series. This should go to game 7, and I think next game's winner will be the TNT.

If you will see the recap on the PBA website, you will see something that didn't happen on Game 3.
The starters especially Erram didn't play that much compare to Game 3. They gave more time to their bench. Maybe this is because SMB got a huge lead coming to the 4th Quarter that they gave up already and give more time to the bench.

I didn't watch the whole game because of power outage but what happened to TNT in Game 3 happened to SMB in Game 4. The points are distributed and 7 players got double digits. I would love to see this series and the other one to go to 7 games. More games = more entertainment and more revenue Cheesy

. Lets see what will happen in Game 5.

Some would think that they are rigging the series as its finest, lol. The series will goes to game 7 and that would attract a lot of viewers since both teams has a big fan base. Magnolia already lead 3-1 and they will likely advance in the Finals, so I like the TNT to win so it will be a battle of Pangilinan vs Cojuangco and it's a real battle IMO.

If they think that way, then that's only on them as PBA has never been proven to be rigging their games. It is what it is, if you are a bettor, you'll never complain as you just bet on the right side and win. The next game is gonna be close (hope so) because they have already known each other and they will play with the right defense since the winner in game 5 will only be 1 win away to win the series.

I never complain but you can never stop me from speculating on the rigging thing.

PBA is the most popular basketball league in the Philippines and yet it's only controlled by two popular names in the business world, I guess that's one of the reasons why people think the game could be rig as for example if Magnolia vs SMB will play in the Finals, do you think they won't rig it to make it a long series?

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 10, 2021, 03:19:54 PM

Yes, I'm still taking the SMB in game 5, with what they've shown in game 4, there's no reason for me to not back them, they are playing really well, so who knows they would do the same in game 5. Now, the pressure is on the TNT as they let the SMB tied the series and they allow them to beat them big time in the last game.

Not surprised with the SMB win but rather I'm amazed at their Game 4 performance. It's the first time that TNT struggles throughout the entire game. What a performance that they were able to make big leads up to 37 points. No team does that against TNT this conference.

I hope they will maintain that firepower. In Game 1 to 3, SMB was always behind and putting efforts to make a rally. They changed that in Game 4. Like to see the series extending until last. It's like watching the same Finals experience already.

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 10, 2021, 07:03:30 AM

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 09, 2021, 08:09:49 AM

Magnolia + SMB parlay = 3.168 (good odds for me as Magnolia will be a sure win in game 4)

Congrats! more beers to you Kabayan perfect timing for a rainy Sunday, SMB bounce back with the same strategy.

Everything went well, both inside and outside. Tau has his night towering inside a good working play for him and Fajardo, while
Romeo and Santos got a good shooting hand from the Arc. All the veterans contribute well today. If you see SMB playing like that, you will see how this series will end. Tied again and now they moving to the last three games.

And, Magnolia as expected, no Alamzan they've been abused by Sangalang and Abueva inside.

This series will end much earlier. The domination of Magnolia is far superior against the Bolts.

It was a lucky day for me, not a big win but winning a parlay is good as it does not come everyday. I'm looking forward to another win of SMB and I think they will break the trend in game 5 and they will beat the TNT to have a lead in the best of 7 series. I am sure that Magnolia will win and they win it easily although Meralco was able to close the gap in the 4th quarter it was not enough to complete a comeback.

Congrats mate, that's a good win. You are truly a Beermen believer. Seeing game 3 I thought that TNT got SMB's number and thought that SMB would be struggling still in game 4 so i bet for TNT, I should have stick to the belief of some users that PBA is rigged and this series would go to game 7 lol.

Magnolia and Meralco are not so hard to guess as the talent disparity of its roster is very evident so we might see an all SMC team in the finals this year huh.

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 10, 2021, 10:02:09 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on October 10, 2021, 07:37:51 AM

The semi-finals series of SMB vs TNT is hard to predict now, after game 3, we thought that SMB would lose but we were surprised in game 4, they look like an old SMB and coach Leo Austria really made it a good adjustment making Tautua focus on the offense more. So what's gonna be the pick in game 5? Can anyone share their picks so I would be more confident to follow, Grin

If basing from the quoted post of Russlenat, he's taking SMB again coming game 5, and I agree that after seeing how SMB play today they can really dominate and not to allow TNT to take that series advantage.

Though we are not sure if they will repeat that same system and they will continue to be tighter, not just focus with offense but also they are challenging each attempts of TNT players, plus the high confidence of all the veterans that make the big impact in winning this game.

SMB like what I've said, if playing solid and healthy is still the team to beat in this league.

Yes, I'm still taking the SMB in game 5, with what they've shown in game 4, there's no reason for me to not back them, they are playing really well, so who knows they would do the same in game 5. Now, the pressure is on the TNT as they let the SMB tied the series and they allow them to beat them big time in the last game.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on October 10, 2021, 07:37:51 AM

The semi-finals series of SMB vs TNT is hard to predict now, after game 3, we thought that SMB would lose but we were surprised in game 4, they look like an old SMB and coach Leo Austria really made it a good adjustment making Tautua focus on the offense more. So what's gonna be the pick in game 5? Can anyone share their picks so I would be more confident to follow, Grin

If basing from the quoted post of Russlenat, he's taking SMB again coming game 5, and I agree that after seeing how SMB play today they can really dominate and not to allow TNT to take that series advantage.

Though we are not sure if they will repeat that same system and they will continue to be tighter, not just focus with offense but also they are challenging each attempts of TNT players, plus the high confidence of all the veterans that make the big impact in winning this game.

SMB like what I've said, if playing solid and healthy is still the team to beat in this league.

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 10, 2021, 07:03:30 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on October 10, 2021, 06:34:53 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on October 09, 2021, 08:09:49 AM

Magnolia + SMB parlay = 3.168 (good odds for me as Magnolia will be a sure win in game 4)

Congrats! more beers to you Kabayan perfect timing for a rainy Sunday, SMB bounce back with the same strategy.

Everything went well, both inside and outside. Tau has his night towering inside a good working play for him and Fajardo, while
Romeo and Santos got a good shooting hand from the Arc. All the veterans contribute well today. If you see SMB playing like that, you will see how this series will end. Tied again and now they moving to the last three games.

And, Magnolia as expected, no Alamzan they've been abused by Sangalang and Abueva inside.

This series will end much earlier. The domination of Magnolia is far superior against the Bolts.

It was a lucky day for me, not a big win but winning a parlay is good as it does not come everyday. I'm looking forward to another win of SMB and I think they will break the trend in game 5 and they will beat the TNT to have a lead in the best of 7 series. I am sure that Magnolia will win and they win it easily although Meralco was able to close the gap in the 4th quarter it was not enough to complete a comeback.

The semi-finals series of SMB vs TNT is hard to predict now, after game 3, we thought that SMB would lose but we were surprised in game 4, they look like an old SMB and coach Leo Austria really made it a good adjustment making Tautua focus on the offense more. So what's gonna be the pick in game 5? Can anyone share their picks so I would be more confident to follow, Grin

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 10, 2021, 06:34:53 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on October 09, 2021, 08:09:49 AM

Magnolia + SMB parlay = 3.168 (good odds for me as Magnolia will be a sure win in game 4)

Congrats! more beers to you Kabayan perfect timing for a rainy Sunday, SMB bounce back with the same strategy.

Everything went well, both inside and outside. Tau has his night towering inside a good working play for him and Fajardo, while
Romeo and Santos got a good shooting hand from the Arc. All the veterans contribute well today. If you see SMB playing like that, you will see how this series will end. Tied again and now they moving to the last three games.

And, Magnolia as expected, no Alamzan they've been abused by Sangalang and Abueva inside.

This series will end much earlier. The domination of Magnolia is far superior against the Bolts.

It was a lucky day for me, not a big win but winning a parlay is good as it does not come everyday. I'm looking forward to another win of SMB and I think they will break the trend in game 5 and they will beat the TNT to have a lead in the best of 7 series. I am sure that Magnolia will win and they win it easily although Meralco was able to close the gap in the 4th quarter it was not enough to complete a comeback.

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 09, 2021, 08:09:49 AM

Magnolia + SMB parlay = 3.168 (good odds for me as Magnolia will be a sure win in game 4)

Congrats! more beers to you Kabayan perfect timing for a rainy Sunday, SMB bounce back with the same strategy.

Everything went well, both inside and outside. Tau has his night towering inside a good working play for him and Fajardo, while
Romeo and Santos got a good shooting hand from the Arc. All the veterans contribute well today. If you see SMB playing like that, you will see how this series will end. Tied again and now they moving to the last three games.

And, Magnolia as expected, no Alamzan they've been abused by Sangalang and Abueva inside.

This series will end much earlier. The domination of Magnolia is far superior against the Bolts.

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Quote from: Japinat on October 10, 2021, 06:01:46 AM

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Quote from: Japinat on October 10, 2021, 05:02:12 AM

Wow! I did not see it coming, after a bad performance by the SMB in game 3, they bounce back strong to win by blowout and tie the series. This should go to game 7, and I think next game's winner will be the TNT.

If you will see the recap on the PBA website, you will see something that didn't happen on Game 3.
The starters especially Erram didn't play that much compare to Game 3. They gave more time to their bench. Maybe this is because SMB got a huge lead coming to the 4th Quarter that they gave up already and give more time to the bench.

I didn't watch the whole game because of power outage but what happened to TNT in Game 3 happened to SMB in Game 4. The points are distributed and 7 players got double digits. I would love to see this series and the other one to go to 7 games. More games = more entertainment and more revenue Cheesy

. Lets see what will happen in Game 5.

Some would think that they are rigging the series as its finest, lol. The series will goes to game 7 and that would attract a lot of viewers since both teams has a big fan base. Magnolia already lead 3-1 and they will likely advance in the Finals, so I like the TNT to win so it will be a battle of Pangilinan vs Cojuangco and it's a real battle IMO.

If they think that way, then that's only on them as PBA has never been proven to be rigging their games. It is what it is, if you are a bettor, you'll never complain as you just bet on the right side and win. The next game is gonna be close (hope so) because they have already known each other and they will play with the right defense since the winner in game 5 will only be 1 win away to win the series.

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Quote from: Japinat on October 10, 2021, 05:02:12 AM

Wow! I did not see it coming, after a bad performance by the SMB in game 3, they bounce back strong to win by blowout and tie the series. This should go to game 7, and I think next game's winner will be the TNT.

If you will see the recap on the PBA website, you will see something that didn't happen on Game 3.
The starters especially Erram didn't play that much compare to Game 3. They gave more time to their bench. Maybe this is because SMB got a huge lead coming to the 4th Quarter that they gave up already and give more time to the bench.

I didn't watch the whole game because of power outage but what happened to TNT in Game 3 happened to SMB in Game 4. The points are distributed and 7 players got double digits. I would love to see this series and the other one to go to 7 games. More games = more entertainment and more revenue Cheesy

. Lets see what will happen in Game 5.

Some would think that they are rigging the series as its finest, lol. The series will goes to game 7 and that would attract a lot of viewers since both teams has a big fan base. Magnolia already lead 3-1 and they will likely advance in the Finals, so I like the TNT to win so it will be a battle of Pangilinan vs Cojuangco and it's a real battle IMO.

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Quote from: Japinat on October 10, 2021, 05:02:12 AM

Wow! I did not see it coming, after a bad performance by the SMB in game 3, they bounce back strong to win by blowout and tie the series. This should go to game 7, and I think next game's winner will be the TNT.

If you will see the recap on the PBA website, you will see something that didn't happen on Game 3.
The starters especially Erram didn't play that much compare to Game 3. They gave more time to their bench. Maybe this is because SMB got a huge lead coming to the 4th Quarter that they gave up already and give more time to the bench.

I didn't watch the whole game because of power outage but what happened to TNT in Game 3 happened to SMB in Game 4. The points are distributed and 7 players got double digits. I would love to see this series and the other one to go to 7 games. More games = more entertainment and more revenue Cheesy

. Lets see what will happen in Game 5.

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Wow! I did not see it coming, after a bad performance by the SMB in game 3, they bounce back strong to win by blowout and tie the series. This should go to game 7, and I think next game's winner will be the TNT. Meanwhile, looks like another blowout win by Magnolia is in the making now, they are up 20 points and they are ready to hand the Bolts another loss and this will be a 3-1 series after tonight.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 09, 2021, 05:47:33 PM

Quote from: Yamifoud on October 09, 2021, 03:39:31 PM

Cojuangco group already has one team heading to the Finals, and that is the Magnolia as they are dominating the Bolts although they loss in game 3. No Almazan yet I guess, so Magnolia might make an adjustment again, and if refs are not against Magnolia tonight, they can easily beat the undermanned Meralco Bolts.

Yup, Almazan is a big loss to the Bolts and they can't win the series without him. So with that, i'm rooting for the Hotshot this game 4 as they can't allow the Bolts to even the series and bring that confidence back, Magnolia -3.5 @1.97 boosted.

From the history of this series, both teams win with a much more comfortable lead, handicap like that if more likely covered if Magnolia
Will take this game from the Bolts again. But, considering the so-called fix games Roll Eyes

who knows, right? Good luck though, I know
you did your research and most of the time follows your instinct Grin

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Quote from: Yamifoud on October 09, 2021, 03:39:31 PM

SMB vs TNT, I have doubt on this now, it's probably TNT will advance, so I don't want to get hype with what the fans are thinking now.

This is one hell of a series for SMB, seems that TNT got their numbers so far and they are having a hard time figuring how to depend on the TNT bombardment from the rainbow country, 3s are killing the Beermen, and base on what I saw in game 3, I got a feeling that this would be TNT's year to be in the Finals so TNT ML @1.90 for me.

No longer interested with martingale? Grin

we all see that rainbow arc festival from TNT.

Adjustment is what SMB needs to tie this series if they are still aiming to win, tough call as both teams are well respected
and very competitive. Wishing you luck !

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Quote from: Yamifoud on October 09, 2021, 03:39:31 PM

Cojuangco group already has one team heading to the Finals, and that is the Magnolia as they are dominating the Bolts although they loss in game 3. No Almazan yet I guess, so Magnolia might make an adjustment again, and if refs are not against Magnolia tonight, they can easily beat the undermanned Meralco Bolts.

Yup, Almazan is a big loss to the Bolts and they can't win the series without him. So with that, i'm rooting for the Hotshot this game 4 as they can't allow the Bolts to even the series and bring that confidence back, Magnolia -3.5 @1.97 boosted.

Quote from: Yamifoud on October 09, 2021, 03:39:31 PM

SMB vs TNT, I have doubt on this now, it's probably TNT will advance, so I don't want to get hype with what the fans are thinking now.

This is one hell of a series for SMB, seems that TNT got their numbers so far and they are having a hard time figuring how to depend on the TNT bombardment from the rainbow country, 3s are killing the Beermen, and base on what I saw in game 3, I got a feeling that this would be TNT's year to be in the Finals so TNT ML @1.90 for me.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on October 09, 2021, 03:39:31 PM

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 09, 2021, 08:09:49 AM

Betting odds are out already, take it early as it might move tomorrow.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches

TNT KaTropa - 1.80
San Miguel Beermen - 1.98

Magnolia Hotshots - 1.60
Meralco Bolts - 2.30

Magnolia + SMB parlay = 3.168 (good odds for me as Magnolia will be a sure win in game 4)

Looks very interesting parlay Kabayan, I also see that possibilities. SMB will do their best to tie this series while Magnolia will not let Bolts to regain the momentum and tie the series. Though it's only my opinion, Cojuangco group will bounce from that losses with their both franchise. Though right now I don't have any balance from my stake account, Grin

Wish you GoodLuck! that parlay is sweet if you managed to win both games. Wink

Cojuangco group already has one team heading to the Finals, and that is the Magnolia as they are dominating the Bolts although they loss in game 3. No Almazan yet I guess, so Magnolia might make an adjustment again, and if refs are not against Magnolia tonight, they can easily beat the undermanned Meralco Bolts.

With the looks of it, Magnolia will likely end the series in 3-1 score. If there's a fix game, I think game 3 was fixed so Meralco will not be swept, but usually it only happens one time, no more fix from now on and the better team will win.

Quote from: Yamifoud on October 09, 2021, 03:39:31 PM

SMB vs TNT, I have doubt on this now, it's probably TNT will advance, so I don't want to get hype with what the fans are thinking now.

I would also not bet on SMB to win, I guess I'll just bet on 1sthalf (SMB)/ Full time (TNT) as that's what I see in this game.
TNT will likely win this game as they are so dominant in the last 2 games. (though SMB came back).

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 09, 2021, 10:08:02 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on October 09, 2021, 08:09:49 AM

Betting odds are out already, take it early as it might move tomorrow.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches

TNT KaTropa - 1.80
San Miguel Beermen - 1.98

Magnolia Hotshots - 1.60
Meralco Bolts - 2.30

Magnolia + SMB parlay = 3.168 (good odds for me as Magnolia will be a sure win in game 4)

Looks very interesting parlay Kabayan, I also see that possibilities. SMB will do their best to tie this series while Magnolia will not let Bolts to regain the momentum and tie the series. Though it's only my opinion, Cojuangco group will bounce from that losses with their both franchise. Though right now I don't have any balance from my stake account, Grin

Wish you GoodLuck! that parlay is sweet if you managed to win both games. Wink

Cojuangco group already has one team heading to the Finals, and that is the Magnolia as they are dominating the Bolts although they loss in game 3. No Almazan yet I guess, so Magnolia might make an adjustment again, and if refs are not against Magnolia tonight, they can easily beat the undermanned Meralco Bolts.

SMB vs TNT, I have doubt on this now, it's probably TNT will advance, so I don't want to get hype with what the fans are thinking now.

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 09, 2021, 08:09:49 AM

Betting odds are out already, take it early as it might move tomorrow.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches

TNT KaTropa - 1.80
San Miguel Beermen - 1.98

Magnolia Hotshots - 1.60
Meralco Bolts - 2.30

Magnolia + SMB parlay = 3.168 (good odds for me as Magnolia will be a sure win in game 4)

Looks very interesting parlay Kabayan, I also see that possibilities. SMB will do their best to tie this series while Magnolia will not let Bolts to regain the momentum and tie the series. Though it's only my opinion, Cojuangco group will bounce from that losses with their both franchise. Though right now I don't have any balance from my stake account, Grin

Wish you GoodLuck! that parlay is sweet if you managed to win both games. Wink

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