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Quote from: Japinat on September 16, 2021, 09:11:44 AM

This is the news pertaining to that.

'Offended' Blackwater owner to sell franchise for ₱150M after PBA warning

However, I guess this was just his reaction as he got offended, in reality, he is not really serious about selling the franchise.
If he sells it for ₱150M, will there be interested on that price? is the price fair or just overvalued for an NBA team?

The president's ego might got offended and no reasons to compete anymore.
With the price and all the perks showing your team inside PBA, ₱150M is fair enough if the new owner is looking for long-term business.

This issue with their losing streak only shows that the whole management is not there to compete, but just to use their opportunities to trade
players and earned from the said deal.

I just noticed the adjustment before the game with the handicap, do trapped a lot of gamblers. Good move from the bookies.. Grin

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 15, 2021, 09:07:48 PM

Not much to argue with Blackwater, personally I really don't see any desire from the players, they just good at the start, but when the opponent locks them down, they are not willing to take the challenge.

If they play like that all the time, then there's no reason to watch them because they are not inspired and they will not win. The current handicap odds for the Blackwater is +13.5, bookies really know what's happening with Blackwater as they gave us very attractive odds, of course for those who have no idea on the struggle of the team this season.

Lets not forget that the owner of the Blackwater tried to sell the franchise but nobody is interested on it or there are no transaction that happened.
That alone is enough to say at least for me that the owner itself isn't interested anymore and it affects the management and at the same time the players. Just look at their roster. Not a single all-star or a superstar.

At the start of the season, many know already that this team will struggle the whole conference just by seeing at their roster and it is happening right now. Not even a single win and they only have 1 game remaining this elimination. They might end up at 0-11 because their last game will be against the 2nd seeded Bolts. For bettors, they might risk on betting on them Cheesy

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This is the news pertaining to that.

'Offended' Blackwater owner to sell franchise for ₱150M after PBA warning

However, I guess this was just his reaction as he got offended, in reality, he is not really serious about selling the franchise.
If he sells it for ₱150M, will there be interested on that price? is the price fair or just overvalued for an NBA team?

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Quote from: Kasabus on September 16, 2021, 01:45:33 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 15, 2021, 09:07:48 PM

Not much to argue with Blackwater, personally I really don't see any desire from the players, they just good at the start, but when the opponent locks them down, they are not willing to take the challenge.

If they play like that all the time, then there's no reason to watch them because they are not inspired and they will not win. The current handicap odds for the Blackwater is +13.5, bookies really know what's happening with Blackwater as they gave us very attractive odds, of course for those who have no idea on the struggle of the team this season.

Lets not forget that the owner of the Blackwater tried to sell the franchise but nobody is interested on it or there are no transaction that happened.
That alone is enough to say at least for me that the owner itself isn't interested anymore and it affects the management and at the same time the players. Just look at their roster. Not a single all-star or a superstar.

At the start of the season, many know already that this team will struggle the whole conference just by seeing at their roster and it is happening right now. Not even a single win and they only have 1 game remaining this elimination. They might end up at 0-11 because their last game will be against the 2nd seeded Bolts. For bettors, they might risk on betting on them Cheesy

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Not much to argue with Blackwater, personally I really don't see any desire from the players, they just good at the start, but when the opponent locks them down, they are not willing to take the challenge.

If they play like that all the time, then there's no reason to watch them because they are not inspired and they will not win. The current handicap odds for the Blackwater is +13.5, bookies really know what's happening with Blackwater as they gave us very attractive odds, of course for those who have no idea on the struggle of the team this season.

They will always play like this since they don't have any urge to retain their stars since they always let them go and trade to the strong teams. Maybe people who call them a farm team is right since it seems they don't have any passion to win a champ or even a single game. I will continue to avoid them not unless if they rebuild a solid rooster in future but for sure this will take many years since its business and this one is dominated by big companies.

Not like this actually, why? Because they are actually playing very well when Ray Parks played with them and when they have a good import. Maybe the team has run out of stars or maybe they cannot build chemistry as the moment they get better, big teams will take their star to play with them.

They are good at that but imagine what will happen to their stars if other team see that they have strong player on their team the trade will be executed, and what surprising is Blackwater accept those bench warmers and its so unfair that's the reason why we cannot see them grow up to become a contender team since they always throw out their potential franchise players. That's why mostly I don't watch there games since its so boring and the result is predictable.

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Quote from: Vaculin on September 16, 2021, 07:02:56 AM

Maybe the team has run out of stars or maybe they cannot build chemistry as the moment they get better, big teams will take their star to play with them.

If they always play like that, they will never fun out of star because no star will be created in this team. They tanked so hard this conference after they got traded Mac Belo, while the Meralco Bolts enjoyed the service of Belo. I think Blackwater has to be overhauled, they just have to accept their faith this conference and maybe just improve next time.

With the result, I think it's not wise to ever think of betting on them, even if the spread is hard to resist.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 15, 2021, 09:07:48 PM

Not much to argue with Blackwater, personally I really don't see any desire from the players, they just good at the start, but when the opponent locks them down, they are not willing to take the challenge.

If they play like that all the time, then there's no reason to watch them because they are not inspired and they will not win. The current handicap odds for the Blackwater is +13.5, bookies really know what's happening with Blackwater as they gave us very attractive odds, of course for those who have no idea on the struggle of the team this season.

They will always play like this since they don't have any urge to retain their stars since they always let them go and trade to the strong teams. Maybe people who call them a farm team is right since it seems they don't have any passion to win a champ or even a single game. I will continue to avoid them not unless if they rebuild a solid rooster in future but for sure this will take many years since its business and this one is dominated by big companies.

Not like this actually, why? Because they are actually playing very well when Ray Parks played with them and when they have a good import. Maybe the team has run out of stars or maybe they cannot build chemistry as the moment they get better, big teams will take their star to play with them.

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Quote from: Kasabus on September 16, 2021, 01:45:33 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 15, 2021, 09:07:48 PM

Not much to argue with Blackwater, personally I really don't see any desire from the players, they just good at the start, but when the opponent locks them down, they are not willing to take the challenge.

If they play like that all the time, then there's no reason to watch them because they are not inspired and they will not win. The current handicap odds for the Blackwater is +13.5, bookies really know what's happening with Blackwater as they gave us very attractive odds, of course for those who have no idea on the struggle of the team this season.

They will always play like this since they don't have any urge to retain their stars since they always let them go and trade to the strong teams. Maybe people who call them a farm team is right since it seems they don't have any passion to win a champ or even a single game. I will continue to avoid them not unless if they rebuild a solid rooster in future but for sure this will take many years since its business and this one is dominated by big companies.

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DYIP lost again today, this time against the Meralco Bolts.

Bolts beat them in the 2nd half, that's really the advantage of a team that has a good lineup as they always play better in the 2nd half.

Still, Tiongson struggles to get back his MVP shape, lol.. he only made 10 points in this game, without him making wonders, I guess DYIP will get back to its place. 3rd losing streak for DYIP, right?

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 15, 2021, 09:07:48 PM

Not much to argue with Blackwater, personally I really don't see any desire from the players, they just good at the start, but when the opponent locks them down, they are not willing to take the challenge.

If they play like that all the time, then there's no reason to watch them because they are not inspired and they will not win. The current handicap odds for the Blackwater is +13.5, bookies really know what's happening with Blackwater as they gave us very attractive odds, of course for those who have no idea on the struggle of the team this season.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 15, 2021, 04:41:45 PM

Yeah, that is also what I'm thinking but looking back on their previous games they lost almost on a two digit lead and i have lost betting on them also when the spread was +10 plus.

Anyway, it's just me and it's gambling, you may win or lose but the important thing is we enjoy what we are doing and we know what we are doing also.

Very straight answer, it's gambling. If you win, you enjoy, if you lose, then move on and try another one.

I follow you with the reload that I get from stake, parlaying these two picks of yours. I'm more worried about DYIP as they beat two strong teams and now they will be tested again. They need the win to continue their journey, but same with you, it's gambling. We never know what will happen. We just wait and see the outcome.

Not much to argue with Blackwater, personally I really don't see any desire from the players, they just good at the start, but when the opponent locks them down, they are not willing to take the challenge.

Maybe the roster is not good enough to compete. Looking at the roster, I see some veterans like the names Semerad, Nabong, and Canaleta. and they also have good guards, but I don't understand why they struggle this season. Based on my personal view, I can't judge accurately because I was not watching their games, who would watch a team that is boring to watch.

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first season of coach Nash Racela as the head coach of the team, it's not good for him if the team will not have at least 1 win.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 15, 2021, 04:41:45 PM

Yeah, that is also what I'm thinking but looking back on their previous games they lost almost on a two digit lead and i have lost betting on them also when the spread was +10 plus.

Anyway, it's just me and it's gambling, you may win or lose but the important thing is we enjoy what we are doing and we know what we are doing also.

Very straight answer, it's gambling. If you win, you enjoy, if you lose, then move on and try another one.

I follow you with the reload that I get from stake, parlaying these two picks of yours. I'm more worried about DYIP as they beat two strong teams and now they will be tested again. They need the win to continue their journey, but same with you, it's gambling. We never know what will happen. We just wait and see the outcome.

Not much to argue with Blackwater, personally I really don't see any desire from the players, they just good at the start, but when the opponent locks them down, they are not willing to take the challenge.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 15, 2021, 01:46:49 PM

The parlay wins but i didn't managed to bet as I was watching the game and thought that NP will continue their first half run,
but TNT start to convert during third quarter and established double digit leads.

Not for me this time bisdak40 though got 1/1 still good in result, tommorrow another sets of games.

For those who loves the underdog,

DYIP @ 3.90 against Bolts @ 1.22 1st game

Blackwater @ 6.40 against NLEX @ 1.08

Good luck !!

Yeah, not bad for me since I've got one out of two and it is not an easy win for Ginebra as that is a come-from-behind win, only Phoenix didn't sink those baskets in the dying minutes of the game.

Not good betting for the underdog this time as every win matters because 1/4 is coming therefore my bet:

Bolts -8.5 @1.97
MLEX -12.5 @1.86

Good luck on us all.

Blackwater seems to be a team that has no chance of winning but that -12.5 is quite scary to take for me. Well, anyway good luck to you mate, you are brave enough to back on NLEX with that high spread, I think if Blackwater would lose, it would not be that high as they are desperate to win.

Yeah, that is also what I'm thinking but looking back on their previous games they lost almost on a two digit lead and i have lost betting on them also when the spread was +10 plus.

Anyway, it's just me and it's gambling, you may win or lose but the important thing is we enjoy what we are doing and we know what we are doing also.

I agree with you @bisdak40, this is gambling and we don't know the outcome of the game, we have to follow our own instinct, and IMO, since Blackwater has been losing in the previous games with a wide margin, I don't expect them to win against a good team like NLEX, or even cover the spread.

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Quote from: Distinctin on September 15, 2021, 04:36:15 PM

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 15, 2021, 01:46:49 PM

The parlay wins but i didn't managed to bet as I was watching the game and thought that NP will continue their first half run,
but TNT start to convert during third quarter and established double digit leads.

Not for me this time bisdak40 though got 1/1 still good in result, tommorrow another sets of games.

For those who loves the underdog,

DYIP @ 3.90 against Bolts @ 1.22 1st game

Blackwater @ 6.40 against NLEX @ 1.08

Good luck !!

Yeah, not bad for me since I've got one out of two and it is not an easy win for Ginebra as that is a come-from-behind win, only Phoenix didn't sink those baskets in the dying minutes of the game.

Not good betting for the underdog this time as every win matters because 1/4 is coming therefore my bet:

Bolts -8.5 @1.97
MLEX -12.5 @1.86

Good luck on us all.

Blackwater seems to be a team that has no chance of winning but that -12.5 is quite scary to take for me. Well, anyway good luck to you mate, you are brave enough to back on NLEX with that high spread, I think if Blackwater would lose, it would not be that high as they are desperate to win.

Yeah, that is also what I'm thinking but looking back on their previous games they lost almost on a two digit lead and i have lost betting on them also when the spread was +10 plus.

Anyway, it's just me and it's gambling, you may win or lose but the important thing is we enjoy what we are doing and we know what we are doing also.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 15, 2021, 01:46:49 PM

The parlay wins but i didn't managed to bet as I was watching the game and thought that NP will continue their first half run,
but TNT start to convert during third quarter and established double digit leads.

Not for me this time bisdak40 though got 1/1 still good in result, tommorrow another sets of games.

For those who loves the underdog,

DYIP @ 3.90 against Bolts @ 1.22 1st game

Blackwater @ 6.40 against NLEX @ 1.08

Good luck !!

Yeah, not bad for me since I've got one out of two and it is not an easy win for Ginebra as that is a come-from-behind win, only Phoenix didn't sink those baskets in the dying minutes of the game.

Not good betting for the underdog this time as every win matters because 1/4 is coming therefore my bet:

Bolts -8.5 @1.97
MLEX -12.5 @1.86

Good luck on us all.

Blackwater seems to be a team that has no chance of winning but that -12.5 is quite scary to take for me. Well, anyway good luck to you mate, you are brave enough to back on NLEX with that high spread, I think if Blackwater would lose, it would not be that high as they are desperate to win.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 15, 2021, 01:46:49 PM

The parlay wins but i didn't managed to bet as I was watching the game and thought that NP will continue their first half run,
but TNT start to convert during third quarter and established double digit leads.

Not for me this time bisdak40 though got 1/1 still good in result, tommorrow another sets of games.

For those who loves the underdog,

DYIP @ 3.90 against Bolts @ 1.22 1st game

Blackwater @ 6.40 against NLEX @ 1.08

Good luck !!

Yeah, not bad for me since I've got one out of two and it is not an easy win for Ginebra as that is a come-from-behind win, only Phoenix didn't sink those baskets in the dying minutes of the game.

Not good betting for the underdog this time as every win matters because 1/4 is coming therefore my bet:

Bolts -8.5 @1.97
MLEX -12.5 @1.86

Good luck on us all.

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Quote from: Questat on September 14, 2021, 03:53:45 PM

Good parlay if you bet on the Ginebra and TNT to win, that would be "2.0115"... Great odds. However, bisdak40 has a point for not picking Ginebra because his team is still currently struggling, so the logic here is, we ride on their success while we can also ride on their struggle. Good luck!

The parlay wins but i didn't managed to bet as I was watching the game and thought that NP will continue their first half run,
but TNT start to convert during third quarter and established double digit leads.

Not for me this time Grin

bisdak40 though got 1/1 still good in result, tommorrow another sets of games.

For those who loves the underdog,

DYIP @ 3.90 against Bolts @ 1.22 1st game

Blackwater @ 6.40 against NLEX @ 1.08

Good luck !!

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 14, 2021, 12:09:46 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 14, 2021, 08:44:25 AM

Back to the ballgame.

We have two games for tomorrow and both games are interesting from a gambler's point of view Grin

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TNT 1.51 vs NorthPort 2.65
Phoenix 2.50 vs Ginebra 1.51

There's no word yet on whether Greg Slaughter will play or not, if he doesn't play i think TNT will take this one easily.

The second game is also a very interesting one. Ginebra is on a losing skid and they are in a must-win situation but Phoenix won't buckle easily so i will go for them.

My picks for tomorrow:

TNT -6.5 @1.91
Phoenix ML @2.5

Good luck.

Good to see that the game already resume back, hopefully there's no bad news that may cause any interruptions and all the game will paly smoothly.

You've got another interesting pick, the odds right now is more smaller after checking it inside Stake TNT now is only @ 1.35 while Ginebra is only @ 1.49. seems that the adjustments for TNT indicates the possibilities that Greg might not play, is there any updated news about it?

Good luck! And thanks for sharing, I may ride tomorrow during live games.

Good parlay if you bet on the Ginebra and TNT to win, that would be "2.0115"... Great odds. However, bisdak40 has a point for not picking Ginebra because his team is still currently struggling, so the logic here is, we ride on their success while we can also ride on their struggle. Good luck!

Bad idea if he did a parlay because Phoenix loss the game, they have a good start with 33-16 score, but they allow the Ginebra to rally in the 2nd half and they made a good 4th quarter as well. In the other game, TNT won by 10 points, and Mikey Williams again with 29 points lead the team, TNT also lucky Greg Slaughter did not play.

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The infected number won't decrease at the soonest until we've achieved herd immunity. There's the delta variant but as long as many of the upcoming cases will be mild and not severe, I think that it will be the time the cases will be lowered. I'm also looking at the daily cases and it's too much because of the delta variant and just as the others opinion, I'm starting not to believe the numbers. But the IATF if PBA will allow audiences again, they have to implement the 'no vaccine, no entry' policy. This is hard for those fans that are not yet vaccinated and we don't know if they'll take the vaccine just for the sake of it because many people are still not yet confident how effective the vaccines are.

Until many believes that vaccine is a poison for them we will not get the herd immunity which is target by the government hopefully people will realize that vaccine is really safe as this technology is not new many vaccine is already created to battle against those past virus which create a pandemic so its really not good to listen those hoax spreading over the net so that we can experience to get back if not at normal state at minimal risk.

But I don't think PBA will implement that no vaccine no entry for fans since it will cost a lot of money for them to ignore ticket buyers with no vaccine so maybe we can't see those things happening, the main key here is hopefully all will trust science,the experts,governments and the person who already experience the virus then recommend the vaccine so that we can see those upcoming games to roll out without problem or any other not related to this.

Those that are believing about that with the vaccine, they're the ones that won't move on because they'll not be able to go everywhere. But it seems that there's no really strict rule about vaccinated and non-vaccinated folks as long as they're inside the region.
And for the PBA, we will never know if they won't implement that rule since it's being talked about establishments that they should only allowed vaccinated people. Although, there's some human rights lawyer that it violates a person's right.

No strict rule implemented to those non vaccinated individuals its because some organizations condone the government if they want to put some sanction or violation of human rights if they force people to get vaccinated that's why many still doubting about getting their jabs especially fake news are everywhere so for sure we will get a hard time to get the target and we cannot easily get back to normal since many still in denial about good benefits of getting vaccinated.

Also hopefully PBA could implement that No vaccine no entry policy so that other fans will think about get their vaccine just to watch their favorite teams live although this is small reason but somehow it can contribute to the decision of the people about get a vaccine.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 14, 2021, 12:09:46 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 14, 2021, 08:44:25 AM

Back to the ballgame.

We have two games for tomorrow and both games are interesting from a gambler's point of view Grin

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TNT 1.51 vs NorthPort 2.65
Phoenix 2.50 vs Ginebra 1.51

There's no word yet on whether Greg Slaughter will play or not, if he doesn't play i think TNT will take this one easily.

The second game is also a very interesting one. Ginebra is on a losing skid and they are in a must-win situation but Phoenix won't buckle easily so i will go for them.

My picks for tomorrow:

TNT -6.5 @1.91
Phoenix ML @2.5

Good luck.

Good to see that the game already resume back, hopefully there's no bad news that may cause any interruptions and all the game will paly smoothly.

You've got another interesting pick, the odds right now is more smaller after checking it inside Stake TNT now is only @ 1.35 while Ginebra is only @ 1.49. seems that the adjustments for TNT indicates the possibilities that Greg might not play, is there any updated news about it?

Good luck! And thanks for sharing, I may ride tomorrow during live games.

Good parlay if you bet on the Ginebra and TNT to win, that would be "2.0115"... Great odds. However, bisdak40 has a point for not picking Ginebra because his team is still currently struggling, so the logic here is, we ride on their success while we can also ride on their struggle. Good luck!

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 14, 2021, 08:44:25 AM

Back to the ballgame.

We have two games for tomorrow and both games are interesting from a gambler's point of view Grin

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TNT 1.51 vs NorthPort 2.65
Phoenix 2.50 vs Ginebra 1.51

There's no word yet on whether Greg Slaughter will play or not, if he doesn't play i think TNT will take this one easily.

The second game is also a very interesting one. Ginebra is on a losing skid and they are in a must-win situation but Phoenix won't buckle easily so i will go for them.

My picks for tomorrow:

TNT -6.5 @1.91
Phoenix ML @2.5

Good luck.

Good to see that the game already resume back, hopefully there's no bad news that may cause any interruptions and all the game will paly smoothly.

You've got another interesting pick, the odds right now is more smaller after checking it inside Stake TNT now is only @ 1.35 while Ginebra is only @ 1.49. seems that the adjustments for TNT indicates the possibilities that Greg might not play, is there any updated news about it?

Good luck! And thanks for sharing, I may ride tomorrow during live games.

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