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TNT is now leading the whole conference Score 7-1 good start in this season but the problem is when they up to finals their strategy will fade and get loss from the opponent. Past few years their team succeed and they win from quarter to semi- final and the final game was come their game was different and their strategy was change then sadly they loss
How about TNT vs Ginebra, which team do you think would win?
If I'm not mistaken, if Ginebra will lose in this game, they will be on a 3 losing streak.
1st they lose to DYIP, 2nd SMB, and then to TNT tonight.
We are at halftime now and TNT is leading by 7 points.
If I'm not mistaken, if Ginebra will lose in this game, they will be on a 3 losing streak.
1st they lose to DYIP, 2nd SMB, and then to TNT tonight.
We are at halftime now and TNT is leading by 7 points.
Game is over, TNT won the battle and dominated the Ginebra San Miguel by 21 points. Now, I like to ask everyone who is consistently watching the PBA, does the acquisition of C. Stand really help the team? or does it only makes the team ruined the chemistry and the results in a struggle?
Another great game by Mickey Williams by the way, he scored 27 points in this game and he lead the team to win.
story of the game : https://pba.ph/news/tnt-dominates-ginebra-pumps-up-bid-for-coveted-qf-seat
3 straight losses not good for Gin kings, same with that question did they win the trade?
Slaughter understands how the system works. He might not as dominant as
C.Stan but moving without the ball and giving good space for their legit scorer is the majority of his share way back.
They still have remaining games that can bring them up and able to move to the next round. They just need to start
winning every game now if they are still pursuing to win another title.
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How about TNT vs Ginebra, which team do you think would win?
If I'm not mistaken, if Ginebra will lose in this game, they will be on a 3 losing streak.
1st they lose to DYIP, 2nd SMB, and then to TNT tonight.
We are at halftime now and TNT is leading by 7 points.
If I'm not mistaken, if Ginebra will lose in this game, they will be on a 3 losing streak.
1st they lose to DYIP, 2nd SMB, and then to TNT tonight.
We are at halftime now and TNT is leading by 7 points.
Ginebra lose with the score of 67-88 in favor of TNT. This is expected since they start to lose to DYIP. I think they don't have enough motivation to bounce back from the bottom. They will be in rock bottom next blackwater if they can't solve there internal issue. I don't know exactly what's happening to Ginebra right but this happened a lot before so I believe they will manage to recover because they are the team that has the most fan on PBA.
How about TNT vs Ginebra, which team do you think would win?
If I'm not mistaken, if Ginebra will lose in this game, they will be on a 3 losing streak.
1st they lose to DYIP, 2nd SMB, and then to TNT tonight.
We are at halftime now and TNT is leading by 7 points.
If I'm not mistaken, if Ginebra will lose in this game, they will be on a 3 losing streak.
1st they lose to DYIP, 2nd SMB, and then to TNT tonight.
We are at halftime now and TNT is leading by 7 points.
Game is over, TNT won the battle and dominated the Ginebra San Miguel by 21 points. Now, I like to ask everyone who is consistently watching the PBA, does the acquisition of C. Stand really help the team? or does it only makes the team ruined the chemistry and the results in a struggle?
Another great game by Mickey Williams by the way, he scored 27 points in this game and he lead the team to win.
story of the game : https://pba.ph/news/tnt-dominates-ginebra-pumps-up-bid-for-coveted-qf-seat
How about TNT vs Ginebra, which team do you think would win?
If I'm not mistaken, if Ginebra will lose in this game, they will be on a 3 losing streak.
1st they lose to DYIP, 2nd SMB, and then to TNT tonight.
We are at halftime now and TNT is leading by 7 points.
If I'm not mistaken, if Ginebra will lose in this game, they will be on a 3 losing streak.
1st they lose to DYIP, 2nd SMB, and then to TNT tonight.
We are at halftime now and TNT is leading by 7 points.
How about mini gambling guys if Blackwater will have a single win or not this conference.
Small bet between $10-$30 in USDT. I'm with NO. No odds or something just 1:1.
I'm with NO. Blackwater will have a 0 win record.
Small bet between $10-$30 in USDT. I'm with NO. No odds or something just 1:1.
I'm with NO. Blackwater will have a 0 win record.
That's interesting, but if we can make a rule like this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pba-meralco-vs-tnt-semi-finals-betting-series-total-bets-003-btc-bet-now-5204905, then maybe we will see some bettors interested in putting their bet on Blackwater. Personally I don't think Meralco would have a single win this conference, but if the odds are attractive, then I might put a bet on that.
Horrible Blackwater Bossing.
With their recent loss, they are now in a 17 losing streak which ties a PBA record for the second-longest losing streak. Actually, they are good during early minutes but while the game is in progress, you will notice some disruptions on game. How about their way of freezing themselves if caught?
If I'm correct games played like layer is already paid of 17 losing streaks?
With their recent loss, they are now in a 17 losing streak which ties a PBA record for the second-longest losing streak. Actually, they are good during early minutes but while the game is in progress, you will notice some disruptions on game. How about their way of freezing themselves if caught?
If I'm correct games played like layer is already paid of 17 losing streaks?
A well-balanced scoring of the Phoenix Fuelmasters made them dominate the blackwater elite.
Good rotation of players leads them to win the game, Wright get all the support he neeeded.Quote
6 players scored double-digit, this is similar to the DYIP beating the Blackwater where everyone was scoring.
A good sign that they are now good in shape, Perkins, Jazul and Chua contribute decently. No longer A Matthew Wright
FuelMasters dominated game.
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I think Blackwater will have their worst season this year with the way they are playing, they are not even competing well, they lose by double digits, there's no sign of progress on this team.
No sign of progress, the chance to end this season without a win is very likely to happen.
How about mini gambling guys if Blackwater will have a single win or not this conference.
Small bet between $10-$30 in USDT. I'm with NO. No odds or something just 1:1.
I'm with NO. Blackwater will have a 0 win record.
Small bet between $10-$30 in USDT. I'm with NO. No odds or something just 1:1.
I'm with NO. Blackwater will have a 0 win record.
A well-balanced scoring of the Phoenix Fuelmasters made them dominate the blackwater elite.
6 players scored double-digit, this is similar to the DYIP beating the Blackwater where everyone was scoring.
I think Blackwater will have their worst season this year with the way they are playing, they are not even competing well, they lose by double digits, there's no sign of progress on this team.
6 players scored double-digit, this is similar to the DYIP beating the Blackwater where everyone was scoring.
I think Blackwater will have their worst season this year with the way they are playing, they are not even competing well, they lose by double digits, there's no sign of progress on this team.
The quality of basketball in the Philippines is slowly diminishing because our supposed to star in the future are playing with other countries due to their competitive salary, just like our good professionals in the Philippines choose to work abroad for greener pasture.
What can the PBA do to stop them from choosing other league over the PBA, I think this brings a serious message that they have to act immediately.
Those who are going in the Japan B-League mostly are players who aren't playing in the PBA with the exception of Kiefer Ravena. Anyway there are 2 reasons that I think we know why they are going into other league. What can the PBA do to stop them from choosing other league over the PBA, I think this brings a serious message that they have to act immediately.
1. Age restrictions - in order for a player to enter the draft, they must be at least 22 years old. There might be some that have reached 22 years old and older but they prefer to play in Japan probably because of competition, experience and the second one that I will say.
2. Money or Salary - lets face the truth that Japan is a rich country and if you will compare the salary of players in Japan and PH, the difference is very big. These players have families to feed anyway and include also the fact that they will learn more if they will play into other leagues.
Or safe to say the young players that are probably in their 20s, some PBA players will doubt of leaving the PBA as they don't know what would be their future abroad and if they will be able to come back in the PBA again. The concern is, what if the young potential players are all going to play abroad? Will the fans still enjoy the PBA?
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What can PBA do to stop what is happening?? One way that I'm seeing is an expansion. I mean add more teams so they can add more talented players. Another one is to increase the salary but I will not expect for this to happen.
Both are needed, expansion to number of teams and increase of salary.
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The quality of basketball in the Philippines is slowly diminishing because our supposed to star in the future are playing with other countries due to their competitive salary, just like our good professionals in the Philippines choose to work abroad for greener pasture.
What can the PBA do to stop them from choosing other league over the PBA, I think this brings a serious message that they have to act immediately.
Those who are going in the Japan B-League mostly are players who aren't playing in the PBA with the exception of Kiefer Ravena. Anyway there are 2 reasons that I think we know why they are going into other league. What can the PBA do to stop them from choosing other league over the PBA, I think this brings a serious message that they have to act immediately.
1. Age restrictions - in order for a player to enter the draft, they must be at least 22 years old. There might be some that have reached 22 years old and older but they prefer to play in Japan probably because of competition, experience and the second one that I will say.
2. Money or Salary - lets face the truth that Japan is a rich country and if you will compare the salary of players in Japan and PH, the difference is very big. These players have families to feed anyway and include also the fact that they will learn more if they will play into other leagues.
What can PBA do to stop what is happening?? One way that I'm seeing is an expansion. I mean add more teams so they can add more talented players. Another one is to increase the salary but I will not expect for this to happen.
Terraferma's lucky run is over.
They suffered their 2nd defeat after the win streak and this time against the North Port.
A 20 points blowout win by the North Port and Tiongson only manage to score 9 points.
84-104 was the score.
They suffered their 2nd defeat after the win streak and this time against the North Port.
A 20 points blowout win by the North Port and Tiongson only manage to score 9 points.
84-104 was the score.
Maybe they will start losing because they are already checked and good teams know already how to beat them. Maybe the coach will change their strategy, they have more players that are capable of contributing not only Tiongson. Meanwhile, the last game is happening now, Blackwater vs Phoenix, it's a close game so far, will this be the game that Blackwater will finally win?
Its hard to say that they will start losing since they broke there streak and maybe that game is not their day that's why we see how Northport bail them out and take the win maybe we can say this after they lose again on their next game since for sure it will lower down their confidence especially if they face more stronger team which is at the top of the standings these season.
Terraferma's lucky run is over.
They suffered their 2nd defeat after the win streak and this time against the North Port.
A 20 points blowout win by the North Port and Tiongson only manage to score 9 points.
84-104 was the score.
They suffered their 2nd defeat after the win streak and this time against the North Port.
A 20 points blowout win by the North Port and Tiongson only manage to score 9 points.
84-104 was the score.
Maybe they will start losing because they are already checked and good teams know already how to beat them. Maybe the coach will change their strategy, they have more players that are capable of contributing not only Tiongson. Meanwhile, the last game is happening now, Blackwater vs Phoenix, it's a close game so far, will this be the game that Blackwater will finally win?
Terraferma's lucky run is over.
They suffered their 2nd defeat after the win streak and this time against the North Port.
A 20 points blowout win by the North Port and Tiongson only manage to score 9 points.
84-104 was the score.
They suffered their 2nd defeat after the win streak and this time against the North Port.
A 20 points blowout win by the North Port and Tiongson only manage to score 9 points.
84-104 was the score.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/pba-p5-million-reward-for-whistle-blower-on-salary-cap-violation-a791-20200428
He would not say it if there was no violation happening, it's just that most teams are owned by big names and probably they control the league as well, so those who are setting cannot freely implement the rules. It's an speculation but I read this somewhere.
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THE last few paragraphs of our story on Kenneth Duremdes' league-record contract, about a reward of around P5 million offered by the PBA for any information that leads to a salary-cap violation getting caught, have raised a lot of eyebrows.
He would not say it if there was no violation happening, it's just that most teams are owned by big names and probably they control the league as well, so those who are setting cannot freely implement the rules. It's an speculation but I read this somewhere.
This states that it's really happening but no one had reported it, with the big amount of reward, that means they badly want to know which teams are violating the salary cap. I guess if the PBA wants to solve this problem, they just have to increase the salary cap so they can give a competitive salary.
Compared to the salary players are getting when playing in B League, maybe it's more than 100% of what they will receive in the PBA, so you know they will choose the team with a better offer, and though teams like SMB could give a good bonus and salary, they can only accommodate few numbers of players.
Probably, people say that PBA is rigged, if it's rigged then we can expect that more corruption happening inside, and that includes the violation of salary cap.
Are we really short of talent to worry about players choosing to play abroad? Let's accept the fact that PBA and its sponsors couldn't match every offer made by wealthier leagues in other countries even if they increase salary caps. So what else could be done? They could at least improve the support for locally organized leagues and expand their scouting for players with potential. I believe we have still many talented players wasted because they were unnoticed. They couldn't attend prestigious schools, where most players are discovered, due to lack of finances.
You are right.
As I said above, I'm not that worried if some players choose to play abroad because not all are granted to have that. We still have many more PBA players that prefer to stay in the league because they don't have any offers to play abroad.
If we saw some superstars of PBA teams is making such transfers abroad, then we can call it alarming. For now, we shouldn't worry.
Most superstars in the PBA league now are not young anymore, if they will play abroad, their future might be at risk as the B league in Japan does not offer long term contract on players that they saw would be a liability in the long run.
Are we really short of talent to worry about players choosing to play abroad? Let's accept the fact that PBA and its sponsors couldn't match every offer made by wealthier leagues in other countries even if they increase salary caps. So what else could be done? They could at least improve the support for locally organized leagues and expand their scouting for players with potential. I believe we have still many talented players wasted because they were unnoticed. They couldn't attend prestigious schools, where most players are discovered, due to lack of finances.
You are right.
As I said above, I'm not that worried if some players choose to play abroad because not all are granted to have that. We still have many more PBA players that prefer to stay in the league because they don't have any offers to play abroad.
If we saw some superstars of PBA teams is making such transfers abroad, then we can call it alarming. For now, we shouldn't worry.
Are we really short of talent to worry about players choosing to play abroad? Let's accept the fact that PBA and its sponsors couldn't match every offer made by wealthier leagues in other countries even if they increase salary caps. So what else could be done? They could at least improve the support for locally organized leagues and expand their scouting for players with potential. I believe we have still many talented players wasted because they were unnoticed. They couldn't attend prestigious schools, where most players are discovered, due to lack of finances.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/pba-p5-million-reward-for-whistle-blower-on-salary-cap-violation-a791-20200428
He would not say it if there was no violation happening, it's just that most teams are owned by big names and probably they control the league as well, so those who are setting cannot freely implement the rules. It's an speculation but I read this somewhere.
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THE last few paragraphs of our story on Kenneth Duremdes' league-record contract, about a reward of around P5 million offered by the PBA for any information that leads to a salary-cap violation getting caught, have raised a lot of eyebrows.
He would not say it if there was no violation happening, it's just that most teams are owned by big names and probably they control the league as well, so those who are setting cannot freely implement the rules. It's an speculation but I read this somewhere.
This states that it's really happening but no one had reported it, with the big amount of reward, that means they badly want to know which teams are violating the salary cap. I guess if the PBA wants to solve this problem, they just have to increase the salary cap so they can give a competitive salary.
Compared to the salary players are getting when playing in B League, maybe it's more than 100% of what they will receive in the PBA, so you know they will choose the team with a better offer, and though teams like SMB could give a good bonus and salary, they can only accommodate few numbers of players.
What can the PBA do to stop them from choosing other league over the PBA, I think this brings a serious message that they have to act immediately.
They can do something but what will be the feedback of the community if they will do that?
Remember the Kiefer Ravena issue wherein PBA, even in the right stand, still got backlash from the community and I think even here in this thread because people think they are getting the way of Kiefer to play abroad? If the community will not support them about it then it will affect PBA's reputation so better not take action and just allow their players to play abroad. In the case of Dwight Ramos, it's just fine to play abroad since after all, he's not in PBA yet.
It's also easy for others to say that PBA players should have a high salary but it's not that simple to approved. That's why there are good perks offered instead in case of a good run per conference wherein in some cases, the perks are much higher compared to the salary of the player that usually receives.
Because when they give big salary, big portion of that will still go to the government due to taxes, so they will give some allowance or reward instead as they could play it not to pay taxes on it, or if they will, it would only be a minimal amount. Unfortunately, this is only good for good teams as they are the teams that will likely be in the Finals or in the playoffs, low ranking teams will not have this kind of benefits.
Actually, it's not about the tax as the main concern.
There's a salary cap for each team. The purpose of it is to balance everything so that dominant teams can't just acquire and offer a big contract to a superstar. In the case of the NBA, it's effective because the majority of teams there can afford to spend a luxury contract if necessary. In the case of PBA, not that effective because only a few can handle the big cost. If PBA boards will allow another increase in salary cap per team, it will just result for SMC teams as an example to become more dominant because they afford to spend big unlike smaller teams.
That was critical and a sensitive issue because not all companies in the PBA are having the same level. That's one of the reasons why salaries in PBA can't just simply increase. Perks are also limited in terms of legal terms but as we know SMC is giving their players more of it under the table if a certain achievement was made.
There's a salary cap but I think it's only on paper as one coach complain that the salary cap was not followed, teams owned by Cojuangco and Pangilinan seem not to be following the salary cap or they directed it.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/pba-p5-million-reward-for-whistle-blower-on-salary-cap-violation-a791-20200428
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THE last few paragraphs of our story on Kenneth Duremdes' league-record contract, about a reward of around P5 million offered by the PBA for any information that leads to a salary-cap violation getting caught, have raised a lot of eyebrows.
He would not say it if there was no violation happening, it's just that most teams are owned by big names and probably they control the league as well, so those who are setting cannot freely implement the rules. It's an speculation but I read this somewhere.
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