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Back to the ballgame.

We have two games for tomorrow and both games are interesting from a gambler's point of view Grin

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TNT 1.51 vs NorthPort 2.65
Phoenix 2.50 vs Ginebra 1.51

There's no word yet on whether Greg Slaughter will play or not, if he doesn't play i think TNT will take this one easily.

The second game is also a very interesting one. Ginebra is on a losing skid and they are in a must-win situation but Phoenix won't buckle easily so i will go for them.

My picks for tomorrow:

TNT -6.5 @1.91
Phoenix ML @2.5

Good luck.

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Quote from: Sanitough on September 14, 2021, 07:37:28 AM

Let's be positive friends, let's hope that PBA will not be interrupted as it was already interrupted once and I don't know if PBA will be able to resume again once it stops due to covid-19 case problems.

Indeed! if this season announce another interruptions due to any covid related cases,

We might not see any possibilities of resumptions in the near future, the new variant is more stronger than the first
virus that we have, the spread is more wider and quicker, so just one case from anyone inside the bubble can trigger
a widespread transfer.

Players and all the staff needs to be extra careful not to interact to anyone and make sure to follow all the safety protocols.

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Our country has a big problem on covid-19, the cases keep increasing and if we get affected by this, then probably we have to stop for a while as well, the economy will struggle and people will be hungry.

The case keeps on increasing as we don't know and we can't see where the virus are and how the virus being transferred.

The only thing that we can do now is keep complying with what the government is asking us in terms
of safety protocols then add more extra precautions and added vitamins to enhance our immune system.

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The infected number won't decrease at the soonest until we've achieved herd immunity. There's the delta variant but as long as many of the upcoming cases will be mild and not severe, I think that it will be the time the cases will be lowered. I'm also looking at the daily cases and it's too much because of the delta variant and just as the others opinion, I'm starting not to believe the numbers. But the IATF if PBA will allow audiences again, they have to implement the 'no vaccine, no entry' policy. This is hard for those fans that are not yet vaccinated and we don't know if they'll take the vaccine just for the sake of it because many people are still not yet confident how effective the vaccines are.

Until many believes that vaccine is a poison for them we will not get the herd immunity which is target by the government hopefully people will realize that vaccine is really safe as this technology is not new many vaccine is already created to battle against those past virus which create a pandemic so its really not good to listen those hoax spreading over the net so that we can experience to get back if not at normal state at minimal risk.

But I don't think PBA will implement that no vaccine no entry for fans since it will cost a lot of money for them to ignore ticket buyers with no vaccine so maybe we can't see those things happening, the main key here is hopefully all will trust science,the experts,governments and the person who already experience the virus then recommend the vaccine so that we can see those upcoming games to roll out without problem or any other not related to this.

Those that are believing about that with the vaccine, they're the ones that won't move on because they'll not be able to go everywhere. But it seems that there's no really strict rule about vaccinated and non-vaccinated folks as long as they're inside the region.
And for the PBA, we will never know if they won't implement that rule since it's being talked about establishments that they should only allowed vaccinated people. Although, there's some human rights lawyer that it violates a person's right.

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According to this report yesterday, they have 300+ new cases. If its maintain like that, we can see PBA to continue their operation.

Pampanga’s active COVID-19 cases stay above 5,000-mark]

Oh well, lets all hope for the best, we already seen great actions and most of us are really enjoying the games.

They have to go full bubble, this is scary, there's a big possibility that one of the players will get infected and they have announced before IIRC that if 5 players in different teams will get infected, they will cancel or stop the conference, I hope that would not happen and let's enjoy and finish this conference.

I don't know if there's still a next PBA conference but hopefully, they can still end the current conference successfully.

Let's be positive friends, let's hope that PBA will not be interrupted as it was already interrupted once and I don't know if PBA will be able to resume again once it stops due to covid-19 case problems. Our country has a big problem on covid-19, the cases keep increasing and if we get affected by this, then probably we have to stop for a while as well, the economy will struggle and people will be hungry.

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According to this report yesterday, they have 300+ new cases. If its maintain like that, we can see PBA to continue their operation.

Pampanga’s active COVID-19 cases stay above 5,000-mark]

Oh well, lets all hope for the best, we already seen great actions and most of us are really enjoying the games.

They have to go full bubble, this is scary, there's a big possibility that one of the players will get infected and they have announced before IIRC that if 5 players in different teams will get infected, they will cancel or stop the conference, I hope that would not happen and let's enjoy and finish this conference.

I don't know if there's still a next PBA conference but hopefully, they can still end the current conference successfully.

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 13, 2021, 06:58:53 PM

As long as not in Pampanga, PBA is safe from temporary break. Here in Manila, there's no chance for PBA to come back. They will finished the conference or probably the whole season in Pampanga.

Hopefully Pampangga or the venue won't have that much cases, PBA games are still secure just need to make a much strict
implementations of all those safety protocols,.

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I hope only few cases will record in that province so PBA will allow to operate freely without distractions.

Since the set up still a bubble type, without any infected person inside they are still safe. PBA needs to work more harder on this.

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According to this report yesterday, they have 300+ new cases. If its maintain like that, we can see PBA to continue their operation.

Pampanga’s active COVID-19 cases stay above 5,000-mark]

Oh well, lets all hope for the best, we already seen great actions and most of us are really enjoying the games.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 13, 2021, 06:11:00 PM

And as the our cases continue to skyrocket every day, most likely PBA are in the dilemma again, hopefully safety protocols are going to be implemented, but the number of being infected are rising.

As long as not in Pampanga, PBA is safe from temporary break. Here in Manila, there's no chance for PBA to come back. They will finished the conference or probably the whole season in Pampanga.

I hope only few cases will record in that province so PBA will allow to operate freely without distractions.

According to this report yesterday, they have 300+ new cases. If its maintain like that, we can see PBA to continue their operation.

Pampanga’s active COVID-19 cases stay above 5,000-mark]

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Quote from: blockman on September 13, 2021, 03:36:39 AM

That's always the case for every team that if they fall short on this current season, they always have the next season. But it is likely that there will be another batch of those players that are about to receive offers from the B League just as the others have already taken the offers. Well in this case, that's just my anticipation since a lot of news did came with that.

The season is long, they'll have a conference and it's easier for them to bounce back as every conference means another opportunity to be in the PBA finals. This conference is probably an ALL FILIPINO CUP because there's no import, so maybe after this, it will still be the same set up as we are still in the pandemic and most likely new conference is still in a bubble format.

Yes, it might still be the same setup but I think as the league struggles with a bubble setup, when the government starts to lift this quarantine setup, the PBA is likely to be in the good setup again. I think they'll now allow fans to go to Araneta or any stadium that they prefer but as always with protocols being followed.

I'm not sure about that, the government has no effective measures on reducing the number of people infected aside from lockdown, and when we say lock down, that would result in no games for PBA or if the IATF will allow, it will be again in bubble set up, the question is, can the PBA continue to run the business when they are losing money?

Really hard to make that decision, I mean not just the PBA but all other businesses in the Philippines are losing money if there will be a total lock down again.

And as the our cases continue to skyrocket every day, most likely PBA are in the dilemma again, hopefully safety protocols are going to be implemented, but the number of being infected are rising.

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Quote from: blockman on September 13, 2021, 05:13:23 PM

Quote from: Japinat on September 13, 2021, 04:13:28 PM

Quote from: blockman on September 13, 2021, 03:53:43 PM

Quote from: Viscore on September 13, 2021, 08:48:08 AM

Quote from: blockman on September 13, 2021, 03:36:39 AM

That's always the case for every team that if they fall short on this current season, they always have the next season. But it is likely that there will be another batch of those players that are about to receive offers from the B League just as the others have already taken the offers. Well in this case, that's just my anticipation since a lot of news did came with that.

The season is long, they'll have a conference and it's easier for them to bounce back as every conference means another opportunity to be in the PBA finals. This conference is probably an ALL FILIPINO CUP because there's no import, so maybe after this, it will still be the same set up as we are still in the pandemic and most likely new conference is still in a bubble format.

Yes, it might still be the same setup but I think as the league struggles with a bubble setup, when the government starts to lift this quarantine setup, the PBA is likely to be in the good setup again. I think they'll now allow fans to go to Araneta or any stadium that they prefer but as always with protocols being followed.

I'm not sure about that, the government has no effective measures on reducing the number of people infected aside from lockdown, and when we say lock down, that would result in no games for PBA or if the IATF will allow, it will be again in bubble set up, the question is, can the PBA continue to run the business when they are losing money?

The infected number won't decrease at the soonest until we've achieved herd immunity. There's the delta variant but as long as many of the upcoming cases will be mild and not severe, I think that it will be the time the cases will be lowered. I'm also looking at the daily cases and it's too much because of the delta variant and just as the others opinion, I'm starting not to believe the numbers. But the IATF if PBA will allow audiences again, they have to implement the 'no vaccine, no entry' policy. This is hard for those fans that are not yet vaccinated and we don't know if they'll take the vaccine just for the sake of it because many people are still not yet confident how effective the vaccines are.

Until many believes that vaccine is a poison for them we will not get the herd immunity which is target by the government hopefully people will realize that vaccine is really safe as this technology is not new many vaccine is already created to battle against those past virus which create a pandemic so its really not good to listen those hoax spreading over the net so that we can experience to get back if not at normal state at minimal risk.

But I don't think PBA will implement that no vaccine no entry for fans since it will cost a lot of money for them to ignore ticket buyers with no vaccine so maybe we can't see those things happening, the main key here is hopefully all will trust science,the experts,governments and the person who already experience the virus then recommend the vaccine so that we can see those upcoming games to roll out without problem or any other not related to this.

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Quote from: Japinat on September 13, 2021, 04:13:28 PM

Quote from: blockman on September 13, 2021, 03:53:43 PM

Quote from: Viscore on September 13, 2021, 08:48:08 AM

Quote from: blockman on September 13, 2021, 03:36:39 AM

That's always the case for every team that if they fall short on this current season, they always have the next season. But it is likely that there will be another batch of those players that are about to receive offers from the B League just as the others have already taken the offers. Well in this case, that's just my anticipation since a lot of news did came with that.

The season is long, they'll have a conference and it's easier for them to bounce back as every conference means another opportunity to be in the PBA finals. This conference is probably an ALL FILIPINO CUP because there's no import, so maybe after this, it will still be the same set up as we are still in the pandemic and most likely new conference is still in a bubble format.

Yes, it might still be the same setup but I think as the league struggles with a bubble setup, when the government starts to lift this quarantine setup, the PBA is likely to be in the good setup again. I think they'll now allow fans to go to Araneta or any stadium that they prefer but as always with protocols being followed.

I'm not sure about that, the government has no effective measures on reducing the number of people infected aside from lockdown, and when we say lock down, that would result in no games for PBA or if the IATF will allow, it will be again in bubble set up, the question is, can the PBA continue to run the business when they are losing money?

The infected number won't decrease at the soonest until we've achieved herd immunity. There's the delta variant but as long as many of the upcoming cases will be mild and not severe, I think that it will be the time the cases will be lowered. I'm also looking at the daily cases and it's too much because of the delta variant and just as the others opinion, I'm starting not to believe the numbers. But the IATF if PBA will allow audiences again, they have to implement the 'no vaccine, no entry' policy. This is hard for those fans that are not yet vaccinated and we don't know if they'll take the vaccine just for the sake of it because many people are still not yet confident how effective the vaccines are.

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Quote from: blockman on September 13, 2021, 03:53:43 PM

Quote from: Viscore on September 13, 2021, 08:48:08 AM

Quote from: blockman on September 13, 2021, 03:36:39 AM

That's always the case for every team that if they fall short on this current season, they always have the next season. But it is likely that there will be another batch of those players that are about to receive offers from the B League just as the others have already taken the offers. Well in this case, that's just my anticipation since a lot of news did came with that.

The season is long, they'll have a conference and it's easier for them to bounce back as every conference means another opportunity to be in the PBA finals. This conference is probably an ALL FILIPINO CUP because there's no import, so maybe after this, it will still be the same set up as we are still in the pandemic and most likely new conference is still in a bubble format.

Yes, it might still be the same setup but I think as the league struggles with a bubble setup, when the government starts to lift this quarantine setup, the PBA is likely to be in the good setup again. I think they'll now allow fans to go to Araneta or any stadium that they prefer but as always with protocols being followed.

I'm not sure about that, the government has no effective measures on reducing the number of people infected aside from lockdown, and when we say lock down, that would result in no games for PBA or if the IATF will allow, it will be again in bubble set up, the question is, can the PBA continue to run the business when they are losing money?

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Quote from: Viscore on September 13, 2021, 08:48:08 AM

Quote from: blockman on September 13, 2021, 03:36:39 AM

That's always the case for every team that if they fall short on this current season, they always have the next season. But it is likely that there will be another batch of those players that are about to receive offers from the B League just as the others have already taken the offers. Well in this case, that's just my anticipation since a lot of news did came with that.

The season is long, they'll have a conference and it's easier for them to bounce back as every conference means another opportunity to be in the PBA finals. This conference is probably an ALL FILIPINO CUP because there's no import, so maybe after this, it will still be the same set up as we are still in the pandemic and most likely new conference is still in a bubble format.

Yes, it might still be the same setup but I think as the league struggles with a bubble setup, when the government starts to lift this quarantine setup, the PBA is likely to be in the good setup again. I think they'll now allow fans to go to Araneta or any stadium that they prefer but as always with protocols being followed.

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For the Gin Kings, we'll see and we only have to wait, watch and enjoy.

Agree, but I'm not enjoying if my team is struggling anyway. Sad

We can't do anything with that and that's really happening. Undecided

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Quote from: chaser15 on September 11, 2021, 10:38:33 AM

How about mini gambling guys if Blackwater will have a single win or not this conference.

Small bet between $10-$30 in USDT. I'm with NO. No odds or something just 1:1.

I'm with NO. Blackwater will have a 0 win record. Cheesy

That's interesting, but if we can make a rule like this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pba-meralco-vs-tnt-semi-finals-betting-series-total-bets-003-btc-bet-now-5204905, then maybe we will see some bettors interested in putting their bet on Blackwater. Personally I don't think Meralco would have a single win this conference, but if the odds are attractive, then I might put a bet on that.

Only few games left in the eliminations so I think there's no time to make awareness out of it.

Just a straight friendly bet here, I will place $30 that Blackwater will set a record of no wins in this conference. I think I'm at disadvantage and officiating might involved on the next games of Blackwater as odds for that team is high (magic hokus pokus lol). Their moneyline odds is always attractive but risky to bet.

I see your point but I think I'm gonna pass, Blackwater is not convincing that they like to win, maybe they'll make a record tha they will be "0" for the entire conference, so it's a waste of time and money betting on them. I believe in fixed game but not on this team. lol.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 13, 2021, 06:19:32 AM

but so much expectation now that he is already in the Gienbra, but what we are seeing now, seems like another disappointment.

I also don't take the reason that Christian Standhardinger is new to the team, or lack of practice, because there are other players too on other teams that also new to their teammates but chemistry is not a problem. But I'm not disappointed. It's time now for other teams to step up.

As I checked CStand's stats this conference, it's fair and good. Should we really blame him for the Ginebra's continous losses? Let's see where they will end up this conference before judging them. Still a long way before the eliminations ends.

It's not Cstand's fault, Ginebra gave up Greg on a trade for CStand, so the management know that CStand is better and would fit on the team, the problem here is the coaching staff, they did not make an adjustment and they still continue with the system that is not working for everyone anymore like before.

It's the coaching staff that needs to adjust here. CStan is giving what Ginebra expects from him, like with the post above the stats still the same, he still the same type of player way back from both SMB and Northport.

The system needs to adjust the same way Northport maximizes Gregg after the trade. I still believe that coach Tim will work it out and if Ginebra will manage to move forward to the next round, they still a team to beat, whether a twice to beat advantage against whoever in the list.

Ginebra is Ginebra and knowing how coach Tim from all those achievements that he has. We will see what he's cooking behind this trade. Maybe a good surprise will happen. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 12, 2021, 06:20:31 PM

Hey kabarangay's out there, too early to say that the Kings will not reached even the semifinals. Standing is just a standing. If they can make even at least on the last spot to enter the next round, that's all good and win loss record will be reset. The only advantage of standing is the post-elimination spot. Knowing Gin Kings, they are shown at their best when they are in a do-or-die situation so just relax.

Time Cone is making CStand ripe on his system that's why even the chemistry is still not there, he will just continue with his usual rotation until that chemistry now finally blends.

I also have that mentality but with a bad standing, that makes everyone think of how they'll be ending with. But if there are still games remaining for them, they have to be the best of them for those matches because if they keep ending with a bad standing and more lose, then we all agree that it's going to be what will be their fate for this season.

If they won't do good this conference, there's still the next conference that they might be successful. Tim Cone will be a legend in the PBA, and he will do everything to make Ginebra a championship again, let's just give other teams to improve so we will not see them in the Finals all the time.

That's always the case for every team that if they fall short on this current season, they always have the next season. But it is likely that there will be another batch of those players that are about to receive offers from the B League just as the others have already taken the offers. Well in this case, that's just my anticipation since a lot of news did came with that.

The season is long, they'll have a conference and it's easier for them to bounce back as every conference means another opportunity to be in the PBA finals. This conference is probably an ALL FILIPINO CUP because there's no import, so maybe after this, it will still be the same set up as we are still in the pandemic and most likely new conference is still in a bubble format.

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But we have our trust and have seen how Gin Kings always gets up and we just have to wait for their next matches if there's an improvement.

Slowly but surely maybe.

For the Gin Kings, we'll see and we only have to wait, watch and enjoy.

Agree, but I'm not enjoying if my team is struggling anyway. Sad

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 13, 2021, 06:19:32 AM

but so much expectation now that he is already in the Gienbra, but what we are seeing now, seems like another disappointment.

I also don't take the reason that Christian Standhardinger is new to the team, or lack of practice, because there are other players too on other teams that also new to their teammates but chemistry is not a problem. But I'm not disappointed. It's time now for other teams to step up.

As I checked CStand's stats this conference, it's fair and good. Should we really blame him for the Ginebra's continous losses? Let's see where they will end up this conference before judging them. Still a long way before the eliminations ends.

It's not Cstand's fault, Ginebra gave up Greg on a trade for CStand, so the management know that CStand is better and would fit on the team, the problem here is the coaching staff, they did not make an adjustment and they still continue with the system that is not working for everyone anymore like before.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 13, 2021, 06:19:32 AM

but so much expectation now that he is already in the Gienbra, but what we are seeing now, seems like another disappointment.

I also don't take the reason that Christian Standhardinger is new to the team, or lack of practice, because there are other players too on other teams that also new to their teammates but chemistry is not a problem. But I'm not disappointed. It's time now for other teams to step up.

As I checked CStand's stats this conference, it's fair and good. Should we really blame him for the Ginebra's continous losses? Let's see where they will end up this conference before judging them. Still a long way before the eliminations ends.

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IMO, it's not the coach who got the problem here, it is CStand because of the chemistry and him not fitting to the current system of Ginebra just like back then when he was not also fit to play alongside JMF.

You just can't limit the playing of this guy because he is vocal when it comes to that issue.

I think Cstand's style of play will fit on the Japan B-league.

If CStand is like that then better trade that player lol.

But overall, it's not just about CStand but their other players as well. It's impossible that all are affected just because of one added new player in the rotation. If their performance degrades just because of CStand then that's a big problem for Ginebra. It's really hard to form chemistry in a new team where games are always interrupted because of lockdowns or any related events due to pandemic.

The fans were so excited when he got drafted by the SMB, I still remember, he played in the FIBA that time and when he played with the SMB, he already produces good numbers in the first game. SMB already have a big man, so that's why he got traded, but after he got traded, that's the start of his struggle, he played with the NP, fans were not so impressed with his performance and it's understandable because the team is weak, but so much expectation now that he is already in the Gienbra, but what we are seeing now, seems like another disappointment.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 13, 2021, 04:56:23 AM

IMO, it's not the coach who got the problem here, it is CStand because of the chemistry and him not fitting to the current system of Ginebra just like back then when he was not also fit to play alongside JMF.

You just can't limit the playing of this guy because he is vocal when it comes to that issue.

I think Cstand's style of play will fit on the Japan B-league.

If CStand is like that then better trade that player lol.

But overall, it's not just about CStand but their other players as well. It's impossible that all are affected just because of one added new player in the rotation. If their performance degrades just because of CStand then that's a big problem for Ginebra. It's really hard to form chemistry in a new team where games are always interrupted because of lockdowns or any related events due to pandemic.

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Ginebra fans will always be loyal, they have proven that they are a good team, and adding C. Stand should make them better, maybe their struggle will be over soon, and maybe as long as they win in the elimination, Coach Tim Cone will use another strategy to beat their opponent. I trust them, so I don't want to judge them now as they are still in the ranking and they still have a chance.

I admire the ability and brilliance of coach Tim Cone but the point is Ginebra won last year's all Filipino cup even without Greg Slaughter and people/PBA fans just expected that they will be stronger now that Christian Standhardinger has come to them.

IMO, it's not the coach who got the problem here, it is CStand because of the chemistry and him not fitting to the current system of Ginebra just like back then when he was not also fit to play alongside JMF.

You just can't limit the playing of this guy because he is vocal when it comes to that issue.

I think Cstand's style of play will fit on the Japan B-league.

Maybe he doesn't have confidence yet since he is in new environment so maybe coaching staff should work so that he can release his potential we know how good and hardworking Cstan is but he really need to get involve on their plays so that we can see a strong Ginebra team this season. But looks like this is tough job for them since they are almost at the bottom of standings so maybe they should find new strategy to see if which of their current piece will work together so that they will not get eliminated early.

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