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Quote from: Sanitough on April 24, 2021, 04:27:10 PM

This is according to coach Norman.

Sorry coach Yeng, but Black doesn’t think PBA is just a four-team race

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NORMAN Black refused to believe the 46th PBA season has been reduced to a four-team battle for the championship.

While he did acknowledge Barangay Ginebra, San Miguel Beer, TnT Tropang Giga, and Magnolia are consensus title contenders, Black still likes the chances of his Meralco Bolts to challenge the league’s so-called elite teams.

Coach Norman is right, Meralco is a good contender as well, Coach Yeng are now talking non sense, why not include his team, it seems like he loss faith that his team could compete against the big teams in the PBA, that's not the couach Yeng I know, maybe he meant something deeper on his statement.

We can't blame coach Yeng on how he felt at the moment. He tried very hard to build a championship team in NLEX but with just a blink of an eye, his prized center (Erram) was traded to TNT which i think opposite to his vision on the team. They can't win championship without a legit big man that can match JMF15 or the other center, that is why he think that the PBA is just a four team race lol.

But of the other side, he is just so pessimistic as anything can happen if he would just focus and motivate his team that the season is an open race just like the thinking of coach Norman Black.

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Quote from: Russlenat on April 25, 2021, 07:49:50 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on April 24, 2021, 04:27:10 PM

This is according to coach Norman.

Sorry coach Yeng, but Black doesn’t think PBA is just a four-team race

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NORMAN Black refused to believe the 46th PBA season has been reduced to a four-team battle for the championship.

While he did acknowledge Barangay Ginebra, San Miguel Beer, TnT Tropang Giga, and Magnolia are consensus title contenders, Black still likes the chances of his Meralco Bolts to challenge the league’s so-called elite teams.

Coach Norman is right, Meralco is a good contender as well, Coach Yeng are now talking non sense, why not include his team, it seems like he loss faith that his team could compete against the big teams in the PBA, that's not the couach Yeng I know, maybe he meant something deeper on his statement.

I agree with you, Meralco is also a threat to the popular teams, even in all Filipino cup. He should not publicize his frustration or whatever you call it by praising the big teams and insulting other teams, I really find his statement offensive, and I think Coach Norman here got offended with his comment.

Both coach have their own opinions, but yes coach Norman might get offended from that statement,
Meralco is there to compete though unable to win the title but they are doing their best to reach the finals or the semis.

With coach Yeng, he might expressing his frsutrations not only with the league but also sending his message to his franchise owner trying to express that 4 teams have better squad.

Whatever they wanted to point out, they should liable with their statement,..

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A news, very hot news regarding Mikey Williams

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/mikey-williams-finally-officially-joins-tnt-tropang-giga-signs-two-year-deal-a793-20210426?ref=home_featured_2

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The 6-foot-2 Williams will finally come on board for the franchise after being signed to a two-year max contract.

Team manager Gabby Cui confirmed the deal on Monday.

The signing puts an end to the long standoff between the Tropang Giga and the highly-touted rookie picked No. 4 overall in the last PBA draft.

Under the deal, Williams, 28, will be receiving a total of P5.4 million in the next two years, including a monthly salary of P250,000 in his sophomore season.

Good that they ended up getting him because he can be a huge part of the team now that Ray Parks isn't playing. He might not get the 300,000 monthly salary that he wants, he got a max contract and a higher salary at his 2nd year and not only that, he also got a telecommunication franchise.

Any takeaway from you who are waiting for this news??

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 24, 2021, 04:27:10 PM

This is according to coach Norman.

Sorry coach Yeng, but Black doesn’t think PBA is just a four-team race

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NORMAN Black refused to believe the 46th PBA season has been reduced to a four-team battle for the championship.

While he did acknowledge Barangay Ginebra, San Miguel Beer, TnT Tropang Giga, and Magnolia are consensus title contenders, Black still likes the chances of his Meralco Bolts to challenge the league’s so-called elite teams.

Coach Norman is right, Meralco is a good contender as well, Coach Yeng are now talking non sense, why not include his team, it seems like he loss faith that his team could compete against the big teams in the PBA, that's not the couach Yeng I know, maybe he meant something deeper on his statement.

I agree with you, Meralco is also a threat to the popular teams, even in all Filipino cup. He should not publicize his frustration or whatever you call it by praising the big teams and insulting other teams, I really find his statement offensive, and I think Coach Norman here got offended with his comment.

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This is according to coach Norman.

Sorry coach Yeng, but Black doesn’t think PBA is just a four-team race

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NORMAN Black refused to believe the 46th PBA season has been reduced to a four-team battle for the championship.

While he did acknowledge Barangay Ginebra, San Miguel Beer, TnT Tropang Giga, and Magnolia are consensus title contenders, Black still likes the chances of his Meralco Bolts to challenge the league’s so-called elite teams.

Coach Norman is right, Meralco is a good contender as well, Coach Yeng are now talking non sense, why not include his team, it seems like he loss faith that his team could compete against the big teams in the PBA, that's not the couach Yeng I know, maybe he meant something deeper on his statement.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 22, 2021, 04:28:35 PM

I think this kid has an attitude problem, why not settle the issue offline and not publish it on the media.

He's not a kid anymore. He's 28.

I'm expecting him to be matured. Maybe he thinks as a former NBA D league, he can demand what he wants. And you are right, those things should be confidential but why bring it to the media. To pressure the management? It won't work as whatever he is, he's still a rookie.

MVP is not that dumb not to take care of him if he will show great performance and being a good contributor to the team. He just need to show what he got.

This player think like a superstar that deserve a good salary, 300k is too high for PBA since they have a capped, so why would he force himself to play in PBA if he is expecting a higher salary, if he really like bigger salary, then he should play in an international league, that's the only answer.

He has the value, but it's not right to ask for too much that is already out of the maximum, that's just stupid of him, it's like TNT is hiring staff and he is the best candicate but he want a role of the manager, that doesn't make sense. I guess TNT here will just let this player go and look for other deserving players, pretty sure there's more who have a better skills and willing to start with a smaller salary.

Meanwhile, fresh update on PBA>

PBA hopeful teams will be allowed to begin practices in areas under MGCQ

These news that has been published lately has been telling us that PBA will commence soon, they are planning already of a practice, so they probably are looking for the commencement next month or the following month. The problem is already their, they just need to find a better solution so they can start the season, and as a fan, all we can do is just hope and pray that they'll successfully open the season.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 23, 2021, 02:53:41 AM

TBH, I don't think that there is something wrong with a rookie asking for a higher salary since in the end it will depend on the team management if they will give it or not. One thing more is I don't think that it is right to tell a professional player a kid just because of this. Attitude problem?? I rather call this "his confidence is at a next level"

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I have not read anything prohibiting us or anyone on calling a pro basketball player a kid. I call him kid because i think he is on his early 20's like most of the draftees but it has nothing to do on him asking that amount for a salary.

I do think different from you and him asking for a non-standard salary is a problem. The definition of PROBLEM in the industry is deviation from standard and that is what he is doing now. Not a good first step for a rookie. He might paly good basketball in the US but the style of play in the PBA is very different and he might nor fit that's why i said he should first prove his worth.

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Quote from: Vaculin on April 23, 2021, 01:52:57 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on April 22, 2021, 05:29:40 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 22, 2021, 04:28:35 PM

I think this kid has an attitude problem, why not settle the issue offline and not publish it on the media.

He's not a kid anymore. He's 28.

I'm expecting him to be matured. Maybe he thinks as a former NBA D league, he can demand what he wants. And you are right, those things should be confidential but why bring it to the media. To pressure the management? It won't work as whatever he is, he's still a rookie.

MVP is not that dumb not to take care of him if he will show great performance and being a good contributor to the team. He just need to show what he got.

This player think like a superstar that deserve a good salary, 300k is too high for PBA since they have a capped, so why would he force himself to play in PBA if he is expecting a higher salary, if he really like bigger salary, then he should play in an international league, that's the only answer.

He has the value, but it's not right to ask for too much that is already out of the maximum, that's just stupid of him, it's like TNT is hiring staff and he is the best candicate but he want a role of the manager, that doesn't make sense. I guess TNT here will just let this player go and look for other deserving players, pretty sure there's more who have a better skills and willing to start with a smaller salary.

Meanwhile, fresh update on PBA>

PBA hopeful teams will be allowed to begin practices in areas under MGCQ

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 22, 2021, 04:28:35 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on April 22, 2021, 04:06:24 PM

Quote from: blockman on April 22, 2021, 04:02:50 PM

I was just browsing on FB and then saw this discussion. What can you say about Williams as a rookie that demands a higher salary per year?
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/why-there-s-still-no-deal-between-tnt-and-mikey-williams-a2244-20210418)

From the article, it says ;

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The rookie salary is cappped at 200k. The gap of 100k

So to be specific, he is just asking 300k per month, that's over 50% of the max capped for Rookie. I guess he its his right to ask for a higher salary, he is good and he knows he is capable of helping the team, but the final say still up to the TNT managemnet as it could also ruined the morale of the existing players if they will give them as a special treatment.

This guy is a bit okay, Ray Parks is worst as his asking is 1 million per month. Grin

The point is, why asked that amount, he has not proven anything yet and besides it is in the rules that maximum salary for a rookie is 200k.

I don't think the management of Katropa will give in to his demand because what the TNT Katropa needs at the moment is a big man that can compete with other teams bigs. They already have a lot of guard, that is why i'm saying that he should prove his worth before asking anything.

I think this kid has an attitude problem, why not settle the issue offline and not publish it on the media.

2 reasons why he is asking a salary higher than the usual rookie's max salary.
1. With TNT doesn't have a reliable guard as of this moment since Parks is gone for the year, he is very confident enough to fill Parks is doing in TNT. Castro?? Yes he is also a reliable PG but the team needs a more reliable PG.
2. Like I said in the first one Williams is confident enough thus, he is asking a higher salary than the usual.

TBH, I don't think that there is something wrong with a rookie asking for a higher salary since in the end it will depend on the team management if they will give it or not. One thing more is I don't think that it is right to tell a professional player a kid just because of this. Attitude problem?? I rather call this "his confidence is at a next level"

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Anyway, the TNT team might gamble with him and try to give him the salary he wants too. Now if he doesn't work with the team then either lower his salary or just trade him right away.
On the other hand though, I believe in the fact that this player doesn't prove anything and also take note that MPBL and PBA are completely different leagues. Well, lets just wait for the decision of the team management of TNT regarding this.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 22, 2021, 05:29:40 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 22, 2021, 04:28:35 PM

I think this kid has an attitude problem, why not settle the issue offline and not publish it on the media.

He's not a kid anymore. He's 28.

I'm expecting him to be matured. Maybe he thinks as a former NBA D league, he can demand what he wants. And you are right, those things should be confidential but why bring it to the media. To pressure the management? It won't work as whatever he is, he's still a rookie.

MVP is not that dumb not to take care of him if he will show great performance and being a good contributor to the team. He just need to show what he got.

This player think like a superstar that deserve a good salary, 300k is too high for PBA since they have a capped, so why would he force himself to play in PBA if he is expecting a higher salary, if he really like bigger salary, then he should play in an international league, that's the only answer.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 22, 2021, 04:28:35 PM

I think this kid has an attitude problem, why not settle the issue offline and not publish it on the media.

He's not a kid anymore. He's 28.

I'm expecting him to be matured. Maybe he thinks as a former NBA D league, he can demand what he wants. And you are right, those things should be confidential but why bring it to the media. To pressure the management? It won't work as whatever he is, he's still a rookie.

MVP is not that dumb not to take care of him if he will show great performance and being a good contributor to the team. He just need to show what he got.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 22, 2021, 04:28:35 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on April 22, 2021, 04:06:24 PM

Quote from: blockman on April 22, 2021, 04:02:50 PM

I was just browsing on FB and then saw this discussion. What can you say about Williams as a rookie that demands a higher salary per year?
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/why-there-s-still-no-deal-between-tnt-and-mikey-williams-a2244-20210418)

From the article, it says ;

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The rookie salary is cappped at 200k. The gap of 100k

So to be specific, he is just asking 300k per month, that's over 50% of the max capped for Rookie. I guess he its his right to ask for a higher salary, he is good and he knows he is capable of helping the team, but the final say still up to the TNT managemnet as it could also ruined the morale of the existing players if they will give them as a special treatment.

This guy is a bit okay, Ray Parks is worst as his asking is 1 million per month. Grin

The point is, why asked that amount, he has not proven anything yet and besides it is in the rules that maximum salary for a rookie is 200k.

I don't think the management of Katropa will give in to his demand because what the TNT Katropa needs at the moment is a big man that can compete with other teams bigs. They already have a lot of guard, that is why i'm saying that he should prove his worth before asking anything.

I think this kid has an attitude problem, why not settle the issue offline and not publish it on the media.

He doesn't see it that way, just like Ray Parks, he hasn't win a championship yet and demand 1 million per month?

These kids nowadays are so ambitious, they think they can dictate the team by not following the rules? well, MVP has something to say, it's a no for him.

why not just focus on the bonuses rather than the salary, that way they can justify their demand if they have good result.

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Quote from: chaser15 on April 22, 2021, 09:31:56 AM

Quote from: Japinat on April 22, 2021, 09:14:31 AM

but looks like it's a bubble set up again.

Gov Manotoc assures safe environment for PBA bubble in Ilocos Norte

But based on his statement: “No specifics as the bubble isn’t the first option,”. If that's the case then there's no point in waiting on the vaccine if they will decide on a bubble setup. They can do the opening even next month.

But the league voiced out concerns about the cost of setting up a bubble so why all of a sudden, they will shift into a bubble. They are already waiting for a long so why postponed the first schedule if, in the end, the bubble will be the option. It will cost them big, cost of vaccines + cost of bubble which is Php 60M last year.

Wow that something to think off, if they are going to proceed and start the league with another bubble setup then they should begin
no need for any delays.

They've done this before and even without the vaccines just need a much strict implementations of every rules inside the venue.

We will see, the sooner the better if they are planning to execute and start this conference.

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Quote from: Russlenat on April 22, 2021, 04:06:24 PM

Quote from: blockman on April 22, 2021, 04:02:50 PM

I was just browsing on FB and then saw this discussion. What can you say about Williams as a rookie that demands a higher salary per year?
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/why-there-s-still-no-deal-between-tnt-and-mikey-williams-a2244-20210418)

From the article, it says ;

Quote

The rookie salary is cappped at 200k. The gap of 100k

So to be specific, he is just asking 300k per month, that's over 50% of the max capped for Rookie. I guess he its his right to ask for a higher salary, he is good and he knows he is capable of helping the team, but the final say still up to the TNT managemnet as it could also ruined the morale of the existing players if they will give them as a special treatment.

This guy is a bit okay, Ray Parks is worst as his asking is 1 million per month. Grin

The point is, why asked that amount, he has not proven anything yet and besides it is in the rules that maximum salary for a rookie is 200k.

I don't think the management of Katropa will give in to his demand because what the TNT Katropa needs at the moment is a big man that can compete with other teams bigs. They already have a lot of guard, that is why i'm saying that he should prove his worth before asking anything.

I think this kid has an attitude problem, why not settle the issue offline and not publish it on the media.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 22, 2021, 03:55:40 PM

Where did you get this figure? did you read it somewhere? share some source.

It was discussed before here. Around Php65M so @chaser15 lacks Php5M on his post haha but almost accurate. It was Coach Yeng that instead of bubble, spend that amount on vaccines as it much cheaper.

https://www.philstar.com/sports/2020/09/20/2043698/pba-bubble-costs-p65-million

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/guiao-sees-pba-vaccination-more-beneficial-than-playing-in-a-bubble-a793-20210405

Quote from: blockman on April 22, 2021, 04:02:50 PM

I was just browsing on FB and then saw this discussion. What can you say about Williams as a rookie that demands a higher salary per year?
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/why-there-s-still-no-deal-between-tnt-and-mikey-williams-a2244-20210418)

Hey it was a topic just on the previous page posted by @bisdak40.

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Quote from: blockman on April 22, 2021, 04:02:50 PM

I was just browsing on FB and then saw this discussion. What can you say about Williams as a rookie that demands a higher salary per year?
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/why-there-s-still-no-deal-between-tnt-and-mikey-williams-a2244-20210418)

From the article, it says ;

Quote

The rookie salary is cappped at 200k. The gap of 100k

So to be specific, he is just asking 300k per month, that's over 50% of the max capped for Rookie. I guess he its his right to ask for a higher salary, he is good and he knows he is capable of helping the team, but the final say still up to the TNT managemnet as it could also ruined the morale of the existing players if they will give them as a special treatment.

This guy is a bit okay, Ray Parks is worst as his asking is 1 million per month. Grin

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I was just browsing on FB and then saw this discussion. What can you say about Williams as a rookie that demands a higher salary per year?
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/why-there-s-still-no-deal-between-tnt-and-mikey-williams-a2244-20210418)

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Quote from: chaser15 on April 22, 2021, 09:31:56 AM

Quote from: Japinat on April 22, 2021, 09:14:31 AM

but looks like it's a bubble set up again.

Gov Manotoc assures safe environment for PBA bubble in Ilocos Norte

But based on his statement: “No specifics as the bubble isn’t the first option,”. If that's the case then there's no point in waiting on the vaccine if they will decide on a bubble setup. They can do the opening even next month.

But the league voiced out concerns about the cost of setting up a bubble so why all of a sudden, they will shift into a bubble. They are already waiting for a long so why postponed the first schedule if, in the end, the bubble will be the option.

They just want to start a the reason, that's it, they didn't see it coming that new restrictions will be impose so suddenly a change of plan was made. Bubble or regular set up, let's leave that up to them, they know what they are doing, even if its costly, as long as the new season will start, that would already satsify us.

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It will cost them big, cost of vaccines + cost of bubble which is Php 60M last year.

Where did you get this figure? did you read it somewhere? share some source.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 22, 2021, 09:14:31 AM

but looks like it's a bubble set up again.

Gov Manotoc assures safe environment for PBA bubble in Ilocos Norte

But based on his statement: “No specifics as the bubble isn’t the first option,”. If that's the case then there's no point in waiting on the vaccine if they will decide on a bubble setup. They can do the opening even next month.

But the league voiced out concerns about the cost of setting up a bubble so why all of a sudden, they will shift into a bubble. They are already waiting for a long so why postponed the first schedule if, in the end, the bubble will be the option. It will cost them big, cost of vaccines + cost of bubble which is Php 60M last year.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 22, 2021, 01:58:34 AM

Vaccines before the conference start is a must in order for the conference to be a success.

If they will get the vaccine then the set up will be no longer a bubble, which I believe more comfortable for the players as they can go home and see their families, maybe the vaccine is coming so all we have to wait now is the good news.

but looks like it's a bubble set up again.

Gov Manotoc assures safe environment for PBA bubble in Ilocos Norte

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