2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 529.

LogitechMouse

legendary

Activity: 2576

Merit: 1043

Need a Marketing Manager? |Telegram ID- @LT_Mouse

Quote from: Sanitough on April 21, 2021, 07:27:07 AM

We might see a 2 conference this season.

This is the original plan this year and if one conference lasts for 3 months, then we might see the league start at least at the 2nd half of the year.
Nevertheless, seeing the league planning like this is already a good sign that they really want to give entertainment to the fans.

Quote from: Sanitough on April 21, 2021, 07:27:07 AM

Hopefully the plans will push through, vaccine was emphasized that it's really necessary to ensure that family of the players gets the vaccine also so the PBA plan will not be ruined, you know, when one of the family member of the PBA player get's infected, it will have a big effect.

Just remember when they detected that there is a case inside the bubble. IIRC it was a referee or a player I can't remember but the fact is there is a case inside the PBA bubble last year. That case alone almost postponed the season that time but luckily it isn't. Vaccines before the conference start is a must in order for the conference to be a success.

agustina2

legendary

Activity: 2436

Merit: 1008

Quote from: Kelvinid on April 21, 2021, 05:19:37 PM

We never know, but as what @harizen had said, it will take 3 months per conference so we can start in June and will end in December. We can dedicate next month for the vaccination process then PBA will be fully prepared to start the following month.

Agree with you. The whole month of May can be dedicated for the vaccination process. But that will only possible if PBA can make a purchase at the start of May. But I think there's a negotiation already about it but not just disclosing it to the public as purchasing vaccines today needs a patience because of the demand.

June is the least they can start as long as there will be no another problem on the way like a sudden increase of confirmed cases, vaccines delay and many more.

Kelvinid

sr. member

Activity: 2828

Merit: 344

win lambo...

Quote from: Russlenat on April 21, 2021, 04:44:22 PM

Quote from: harizen on April 21, 2021, 03:55:42 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on April 21, 2021, 07:27:07 AM

We might see a 2 conference this season.

Actually, that was really the original plan for this year if ever the league were able to follow the original plan of opening last April 18. But since Ynares Center is part of the NCR Plus, which currently on a MECQ status until the end of the month, there were no preparations made.

Since a single conference takes around 3 months to be finished there is still time for another conference if they will successfully push for an opening next month or in June as the expected restriction on NCR Plus won't likely extend. And as per target, all doses of vaccines should be made before players can clear to play so it will take at least a month.

So we can expect the PBA to start next month, well, there's still plenty of time to practice and then start the season, we just have to be optimsitic about it as for sure they also want to start the season as much as we want, but they need to ensure safety as they can't compromise the safety of everyone against the covid-19.

We never know, but as what @harizen had said, it will take 3 months per conference so we can start in June and will end in December. We can dedicate next month for the vaccination process then PBA will be fully prepared to start the following month.

Russlenat

hero member

Activity: 2716

Merit: 904

Quote from: harizen on April 21, 2021, 03:55:42 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on April 21, 2021, 07:27:07 AM

We might see a 2 conference this season.

Actually, that was really the original plan for this year if ever the league were able to follow the original plan of opening last April 18. But since Ynares Center is part of the NCR Plus, which currently on a MECQ status until the end of the month, there were no preparations made.

Since a single conference takes around 3 months to be finished there is still time for another conference if they will successfully push for an opening next month or in June as the expected restriction on NCR Plus won't likely extend. And as per target, all doses of vaccines should be made before players can clear to play so it will take at least a month.

So we can expect the PBA to start next month, well, there's still plenty of time to practice and then start the season, we just have to be optimsitic about it as for sure they also want to start the season as much as we want, but they need to ensure safety as they can't compromise the safety of everyone against the covid-19.

chaser15

legendary

Activity: 2688

Merit: 1065

Undeads.com - P2E Runner Game

We can only estimate once PBA already secured doses of vaccines. Vaccines have several sessions, one dose as initial and another weeks for another. AstraZeneca and CoronaVac which are only the available vaccine in the country need at least 2-3 weeks to complete a whole dosage.

I'm not expecting a second conference looking at the period where PBA should meet the requirements before they can start a league. 2 conference is only possible if they will not wait for a vaccine or if they will cut the games at each conference, or makes some rush like what happens in a bubble where games over games and some are triple headers.

Fredomago

legendary

Activity: 2996

Merit: 1054

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: harizen on April 21, 2021, 03:55:42 PM

Actually, that was really the original plan for this year if ever the league were able to follow the original plan of opening last April 18. But since Ynares Center is part of the NCR Plus, which currently on a MECQ status until the end of the month, there were no preparations made.

Still waiting if there's good development regarding to this pandemic issue, no clear announcement yet. If in case that the original plan will proceed having 2 conferences still possible, though it might same a like with bubble setup with more games each weeks.

Quote

Since a single conference takes around 3 months to be finished there is still time for another conference if they will successfully push for an opening next month or in June as the expected restriction on NCR Plus won't likely extend. And as per target, all doses of vaccines should be made before players can clear to play so it will take at least a month.

league organizers might considering this and for sure they will chase those vaccines first for the safety of all concern people around, with vaccinated people it will lessen the chance of spreading if not completely contained.
Hope for the best as it is the only thing that fans can do for now.

blockman

hero member

Activity: 3066

Merit: 629

20BET - Premium Casino & Sportsbook

Quote from: Fredomago on April 20, 2021, 06:02:31 PM

Quote from: blockman on April 20, 2021, 05:38:36 PM

Quote from: harizen on April 20, 2021, 04:13:02 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 20, 2021, 05:35:05 AM

Bottom line, it's time for the PBA to upgrade their salary structure if they want to stay at the top.

Not possible and shouldn't be prioritized for now.

https://www.pba.ph/news/pay-cut-sacrifice-in-difficult-time?fbclid=IwAR0lXNo554kZzSpreX6WZ2lVLfeGK2oP8FNcjQmn-pnW7b3wRejSs01iKtw

That's the unexpected news that we're waiting for. A cut to their salary, they have no choice but just to embrace it and that's better on their side rather than receiving nothing.
It's just a temporary rule and when things go back to normal, they're going to receive their salary again in full.

They should take it to show compassion with the sport that they've love, and yes it's better than nothing. Those players already earned a lot from the first time they've step inside this league.

Just showing the desire to continue playing even they've only getting lesser payment during this pandemic, it's justifiable as the league itself are also suffering.

They can only get some money from commercials aside from that they've got nothing.

Everybody is affected and that's understandable, the cut is necessary for them to cover the losses and to keep running. As said, that's no problem at all and just a temporary measure which shall go back to normal soon if things are quite back to normal.

Quote from: Sanitough on April 21, 2021, 07:27:07 AM

We might see a 2 conference this season.

Their study cases should prove it soon that it's possible and necessary but they all have to agree that it should be done but nevertheless, as long as they're back whether with one or two seasons, I'm good with that.

harizen

legendary

Activity: 3122

Merit: 1398

For support ➡️ help.bc.game

Quote from: Sanitough on April 21, 2021, 07:27:07 AM

We might see a 2 conference this season.

Actually, that was really the original plan for this year if ever the league were able to follow the original plan of opening last April 18. But since Ynares Center is part of the NCR Plus, which currently on a MECQ status until the end of the month, there were no preparations made.

Since a single conference takes around 3 months to be finished there is still time for another conference if they will successfully push for an opening next month or in June as the expected restriction on NCR Plus won't likely extend. And as per target, all doses of vaccines should be made before players can clear to play so it will take at least a month.

Sanitough

hero member

Activity: 2954

Merit: 719

We might see a 2 conference this season.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/pba-looking-at-june-to-determine-whether-two-conference-format-still-feasible-this-season-a795-20210420?ref=feed_1_section

Quote

THE PBA is still pursuing a two-conference format for the 2021 season, although that could change if its players still are yet to be inoculated by June.

PBA vice chairman Bobby Rosales said the league is still planning to hold an all-Filipino and import-laced conference this year despite the delays in the opening of the season that was supposed to launch last Sunday, April 18.

Rosales admitted all members of the PBA family must be vaccinated as soon as possible in order to be able to preserve the original plan to have two conferences.

“As you’ve read in the papers, ‘yung mga vaccines, they are scheduled to arrive starting May. If they will arrive in May, that’s the earliest we can get the PBA family vaccinated. It will take a month before the dosage can become effective. You are looking really at June as the earliest," he said.

Hopefully the plans will push through, vaccine was emphasized that it's really necessary to ensure that family of the players gets the vaccine also so the PBA plan will not be ruined, you know, when one of the family member of the PBA player get's infected, it will have a big effect.

Distinctin

hero member

Activity: 2926

Merit: 657

No dream is too big and no dreamer is too small

Quote from: ultrloa on April 21, 2021, 04:59:59 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on April 20, 2021, 06:42:25 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on April 20, 2021, 06:02:31 PM

They should take it to show compassion with the sport that they've love, and yes it's better than nothing. Those players already earned a lot from the first time they've step inside this league.

Just showing the desire to continue playing even they've only getting lesser payment during this pandemic, it's justifiable as the league itself are also suffering.

Should be no problem with players. Even with the cut, they are still lucky compare to millions of people who don't have a source of income. A 20% cut is nothing if the intention is to support the league.

And it's understandable action. In NBA, players' salaries are cut too to support the league and minimize the team's expenses.

But the government still have the final say about this since if they allow it and plan a good set up to make this thing happen for sure we can see them rolling, also if the players will agree to this condition maybe we didn't have any problem about this cuts discussion but this will take a long time of proper planning and series of meeting before we can get a final news about this suggestions. For now will follow the legitimate PBA news updates to follow the legitimate news about the league.

Players has no choice, they either accept the cut of will allow the PBA to sink and it will be dissolve in the long run. They have to be practical, no one would cut their salary if the league is making enough money to pay them.

ultrloa

legendary

Activity: 2758

Merit: 1228

Quote from: chaser15 on April 20, 2021, 06:42:25 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on April 20, 2021, 06:02:31 PM

They should take it to show compassion with the sport that they've love, and yes it's better than nothing. Those players already earned a lot from the first time they've step inside this league.

Just showing the desire to continue playing even they've only getting lesser payment during this pandemic, it's justifiable as the league itself are also suffering.

Should be no problem with players. Even with the cut, they are still lucky compare to millions of people who don't have a source of income. A 20% cut is nothing if the intention is to support the league.

And it's understandable action. In NBA, players' salaries are cut too to support the league and minimize the team's expenses.

But the government still have the final say about this since if they allow it and plan a good set up to make this thing happen for sure we can see them rolling, also if the players will agree to this condition maybe we didn't have any problem about this cuts discussion but this will take a long time of proper planning and series of meeting before we can get a final news about this suggestions. For now will follow the legitimate PBA news updates to follow the legitimate news about the league.

LogitechMouse

legendary

Activity: 2576

Merit: 1043

Need a Marketing Manager? |Telegram ID- @LT_Mouse

Quote from: harizen on April 20, 2021, 04:13:02 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 20, 2021, 05:35:05 AM

Bottom line, it's time for the PBA to upgrade their salary structure if they want to stay at the top.

Not possible and shouldn't be prioritized for now.

https://www.pba.ph/news/pay-cut-sacrifice-in-difficult-time?fbclid=IwAR0lXNo554kZzSpreX6WZ2lVLfeGK2oP8FNcjQmn-pnW7b3wRejSs01iKtw

When I saw this article coming from the PBA, I felt that it is needed in order for the league to stay.
With this pandemic, all of the revenues of the PBA are reduced and because of the reduced exposure because of the league just having one conference (Filipino Cup) last year and with lack of audiences their revenue really hit that hard.

If you are a player, coach or a personnel, I think this would be better than having problems in the future regarding salaries. After all, this must be done for the league to stay since they got no revenues at all except from the team and some advertisements too. Kinda unexpected on my part too but highly needed.

chaser15

legendary

Activity: 2688

Merit: 1065

Undeads.com - P2E Runner Game

Quote from: Fredomago on April 20, 2021, 06:02:31 PM

They should take it to show compassion with the sport that they've love, and yes it's better than nothing. Those players already earned a lot from the first time they've step inside this league.

Just showing the desire to continue playing even they've only getting lesser payment during this pandemic, it's justifiable as the league itself are also suffering.

Should be no problem with players. Even with the cut, they are still lucky compare to millions of people who don't have a source of income. A 20% cut is nothing if the intention is to support the league.

And it's understandable action. In NBA, players' salaries are cut too to support the league and minimize the team's expenses.

Fredomago

legendary

Activity: 2996

Merit: 1054

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: blockman on April 20, 2021, 05:38:36 PM

Quote from: harizen on April 20, 2021, 04:13:02 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 20, 2021, 05:35:05 AM

Bottom line, it's time for the PBA to upgrade their salary structure if they want to stay at the top.

Not possible and shouldn't be prioritized for now.

https://www.pba.ph/news/pay-cut-sacrifice-in-difficult-time?fbclid=IwAR0lXNo554kZzSpreX6WZ2lVLfeGK2oP8FNcjQmn-pnW7b3wRejSs01iKtw

That's the unexpected news that we're waiting for. A cut to their salary, they have no choice but just to embrace it and that's better on their side rather than receiving nothing.
It's just a temporary rule and when things go back to normal, they're going to receive their salary again in full.

They should take it to show compassion with the sport that they've love, and yes it's better than nothing. Those players already earned a lot from the first time they've step inside this league.

Just showing the desire to continue playing even they've only getting lesser payment during this pandemic, it's justifiable as the league itself are also suffering.

They can only get some money from commercials aside from that they've got nothing.

blockman

hero member

Activity: 3066

Merit: 629

20BET - Premium Casino & Sportsbook

Quote from: harizen on April 20, 2021, 04:13:02 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 20, 2021, 05:35:05 AM

Bottom line, it's time for the PBA to upgrade their salary structure if they want to stay at the top.

Not possible and shouldn't be prioritized for now.

https://www.pba.ph/news/pay-cut-sacrifice-in-difficult-time?fbclid=IwAR0lXNo554kZzSpreX6WZ2lVLfeGK2oP8FNcjQmn-pnW7b3wRejSs01iKtw

That's the unexpected news that we're waiting for. A cut to their salary, they have no choice but just to embrace it and that's better on their side rather than receiving nothing.
It's just a temporary rule and when things go back to normal, they're going to receive their salary again in full.

bisdak40

hero member

Activity: 2072

Merit: 542

DGbet.fun - Crypto Sportsbook

Quote from: Maslate on April 20, 2021, 04:45:23 PM

Looks like salary now has become an issue in the PBA, especially from these Phil AM players who are in demand and could play in other leagues that could give a competitive salary, maybe they just have to remain humble, besides it's just temporary of being a rookie, just like getting into the job, we started as probationary and we don't receive a big salary, but once we pass that period, we will be regularize and might be promoted as well, so that's the time where we can achieve a good salary.

That's the point, everybody went through that scenario on being a rookie and being paid with that maximum rookie salary and this the first time that i've heard a rookie complaining of his supposed to be salary.

If ever he would show his real worth in the coming season, there is no debate that he would get want he want, salary-wise. Prove your worth first before asking because there are too many guards nowadays in the PBA that are as talented as everybody.

Maslate

hero member

Activity: 2954

Merit: 672

Message @Hhampuz if you are looking for a CM!

Looks like salary now has become an issue in the PBA, especially from these Phil AM players who are in demand and could play in other leagues that could give a competitive salary, maybe they just have to remain humble, besides it's just temporary of being a rookie, just like getting into the job, we started as probationary and we don't receive a big salary, but once we pass that period, we will be regularize and might be promoted as well, so that's the time where we can achieve a good salary.

harizen

legendary

Activity: 3122

Merit: 1398

For support ➡️ help.bc.game

Quote from: peter0425 on April 20, 2021, 05:47:20 AM

..until the issues not been resolved.

Then it's like saying you will never bet for good now as that issue won't be solved and there will be many cases of that in the future

. Kidding aside, it's something that can be solved as even in a much bigger league outside the country, it happens.

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 20, 2021, 05:35:05 AM

I read some article regarding that, at least his asking price is justifiable,

"Rookie" - there's no exception and all have to follow the max salary allowed for the rookie.

I don't see any problem with that if he will get the max offer for a rookie. Not all are qualified to that. And being a rookie is just one season. If he improves, then he can demand an increase or by any chance, it can be granted automatically once TNT sees his performance. The season hasn't started at all and yet a rookie is asking already for an increase. He is good, no doubt about that, but playing in a PBA environment isn't a joke even he is standing out in US NCAA.

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 20, 2021, 05:35:05 AM

Bottom line, it's time for the PBA to upgrade their salary structure if they want to stay at the top.

Not possible and shouldn't be prioritized for now.

https://www.pba.ph/news/pay-cut-sacrifice-in-difficult-time?fbclid=IwAR0lXNo554kZzSpreX6WZ2lVLfeGK2oP8FNcjQmn-pnW7b3wRejSs01iKtw

peter0425

sr. member

Activity: 2618

Merit: 439

Quote from: mirakal on April 16, 2021, 05:20:25 PM

With this big disappointments, I'm wondering if we can still bet on these sports in the future.
I mean, like MPBL, it's a popular league next to PBA, and when there's a controversy inside about sports rigging, will sportsbook still list this game?

Is this what the topic your pointing?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/an-obvious-rigging-of-sports-5330982

Yeah i am really disappointed about that and for long time i do believe of each game legitimacy even that there are some issues i have heard yet i ignored them all, but after this? lol i will now prevent from betting in PBA or any Philippine basketball league for a while until the issues not been resolved.

Hypnosis00

sr. member

Activity: 2478

Merit: 343

20BET - Premium Casino & Sportsbook

Quote from: bisdak40 on April 20, 2021, 03:35:36 AM

Have you guys knew that Mickey Williams is still not officially a Katropa?

Yes, according to news on social media that Williams wants to be paid equal to his salary in his MPBL days which is Php300K in which many doubted it was true because no MPBL teams is rich enough to pay that kind of amount.

The maximum rookie salary is Php200K and considering you are a rookie i think this is enough and not agreeing to that might give the team an impression that you have a problem attitude because you are deviating to standards.

What do you think of this case?

I read some article regarding that, at least his asking price is justifiable, and since the PBA salary cap is not actually followed, then why TNT can give that to him? It look TNT is the problem here, some of the star players have contract problem, to name players I knew, Ray Parks and Terrence Romeo, what Romeo did was just a success because he got traded to the SMB but Ray Parks was a failure.

Bottom line, it's time for the PBA to upgrade their salary structure if they want to stay at the top.

Topic: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 529. (Read 101248 times)