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April 16, 2021, 04:53:20 PM
Nevertheless, it is still a very bad game to watch and it's just fitting that GAB ordered an investigation and punished those people behind this.

If they are betting against themselves, then they should already had made money on this.

The question is, if the fine is just monetary, it would be easy for them to get away if they bet millions on that game.
What bookies are actually accepting bets on this particular league in the Philippines?

I'm just curious as I haven't bet on this game yet.
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April 16, 2021, 04:52:59 PM
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Fittingly, news of the breakthrough comes just a day after a new regional league, the Pilipinas VisMin Super Cup, banned one team for life and suspended and fined members of another ballclub after a dubious game.

Curiously, among those charged were Joshua Alcober aka Desmond Alcober, who was one of the members of the Siquijor Mystics ballclub that was hit with a lifetime ban on Thursday following their controversial match against Lapu-Lapu.

This is the right thing to do, charge them criminally so everyone will see this as a warning not do game fixing which ruined our reputation.

Good move! It will served as warning to everyone that law will hunt them once they'll find evidence of game fixing. Hopefully it will also serve as beginning of many possible tracing of those people behind this kind of activities.

Those players deserved what is happening to them right now. There are lots of inspiring youngsters who wanted to have the same opportunities, but those people who did messed it up.

Obvious things won't escape from the eyes of those who understand the game, better not to follow this kind of act or else
you'll suffer the same.
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April 16, 2021, 04:42:58 PM
This is not PBA but still it is Philippine basketball and some of the players were ex pros or ex PBA players so i think this worth a discussion here as it involve betting, fixed matches as they alleged.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/lapu-lapu-team-owner-laments-siquijor-for-having-no-intention-to-win-in-their-vismin-cup-match-a795-20210415?ref=home_featured_1

Article ^^ said that Siquijor team or some players were allegedly involved in game fixing and with that they were banned from Pilipinas Vis-Min Cup while some players from Lapu-lapu team were fined and suspended.

Do you believe in this accusation guys?

If this is true then they are ruining the game which we, Filipinos loved so much.  
They must be very ashamed of themselves after what they did.

I will just cite some scenarios that happened which is very obvious that this is fix game.
1. Free Throws of one team is just hitting the board and not the ring. Its also obvious that they aren't really have the intention to shoot it.
2. One team is just wasting their time when they are holding the ball. Whenever they have the ball, they are just wasting it and in the end the opposing team will steal it causing a turnover.
3. There are also times that the one team is free and it is a fastbreak but he can't shoot it. He is free but he can't shoot it?? Sounds obvious. There is also one instance where a player is free to shoot and he made a hook shot from about 5 ft away from the ring but the ending?? It is an airball and take note the defender did nothing on it but stand but it ended up still as an airball.

These 3 are just a few of the obvious reasons that the game was fixed probably because of this online bets. Do I believe on this. Its obvious so yes and in fact one team has been banned and the other is just suspended and both of them are fined 1 Million each.

PBA players also reacted with this. They really are just ruining the sport that they loved, that we are love to play. Its the first time to have a league like this in VisMin but they did this. Shame on these people.

TBH, i didn't watched the video though i saw some clips but i don't want to see the whole thing they do to disgrace the game.

Just my analysis, i believed that players/coaching staff from the Siquijor team knows that the game was rigged while players from Lapu-lapu team didn't because of the things that they do were so obvious. It you intentionally missed free throws, you know that people would noticed that and that's not a good acting in a rigged game.

Nevertheless, it is still a very bad game to watch and it's just fitting that GAB ordered an investigation and punished those people behind this.
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April 16, 2021, 08:41:28 AM
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Fittingly, news of the breakthrough comes just a day after a new regional league, the Pilipinas VisMin Super Cup, banned one team for life and suspended and fined members of another ballclub after a dubious game.

Curiously, among those charged were Joshua Alcober aka Desmond Alcober, who was one of the members of the Siquijor Mystics ballclub that was hit with a lifetime ban on Thursday following their controversial match against Lapu-Lapu.

This is the right thing to do, charge them criminally so everyone will see this as a warning not do game fixing which ruined our reputation.
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April 15, 2021, 08:13:31 PM
This is not PBA but still it is Philippine basketball and some of the players were ex pros or ex PBA players so i think this worth a discussion here as it involve betting, fixed matches as they alleged.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/lapu-lapu-team-owner-laments-siquijor-for-having-no-intention-to-win-in-their-vismin-cup-match-a795-20210415?ref=home_featured_1

Article ^^ said that Siquijor team or some players were allegedly involved in game fixing and with that they were banned from Pilipinas Vis-Min Cup while some players from Lapu-lapu team were fined and suspended.

Do you believe in this accusation guys?

If this is true then they are ruining the game which we, Filipinos loved so much.  
They must be very ashamed of themselves after what they did.

I will just cite some scenarios that happened which is very obvious that this is fix game.
1. Free Throws of one team is just hitting the board and not the ring. Its also obvious that they aren't really have the intention to shoot it.
2. One team is just wasting their time when they are holding the ball. Whenever they have the ball, they are just wasting it and in the end the opposing team will steal it causing a turnover.
3. There are also times that the one team is free and it is a fastbreak but he can't shoot it. He is free but he can't shoot it?? Sounds obvious. There is also one instance where a player is free to shoot and he made a hook shot from about 5 ft away from the ring but the ending?? It is an airball and take note the defender did nothing on it but stand but it ended up still as an airball.

These 3 are just a few of the obvious reasons that the game was fixed probably because of this online bets. Do I believe on this. Its obvious so yes and in fact one team has been banned and the other is just suspended and both of them are fined 1 Million each.

PBA players also reacted with this. They really are just ruining the sport that they loved, that we are love to play. Its the first time to have a league like this in VisMin but they did this. Shame on these people.
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April 15, 2021, 05:10:21 PM
Do you believe in this accusation guys?

If this is true then they are ruining the game which we, Filipinos loved so much. 

Read that in the news and since there's a video, YES it's true. Several PBA players voiced their concerns about that issue.

But I'm disappointed with the aftermath. Should be penalized all players and coaches of both teams. And guess what, the reason of that guy missing intentionally his free throw is, he is just frustrated that's why his shot turned into the worst. A big lol to him. Short-term suspension isn't enough. Should be years or kicked them out of the league.

I guess that's the best punishment for this kind of offense, it's not only destroying the team but the league in general, there should be no room for this kind of criminal act, they should protec the sport and our reputation. We don't want to be called that our basketball in the league is corrupt because we are already called as a corrupt country, so that would not help at all.
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April 15, 2021, 04:28:44 PM
Do you believe in this accusation guys?

If this is true then they are ruining the game which we, Filipinos loved so much. 

Read that in the news and since there's a video, YES it's true. Several PBA players voiced their concerns about that issue.

But I'm disappointed with the aftermath. Should be penalized all players and coaches of both teams. And guess what, the reason of that guy missing intentionally his free throw is, he is just frustrated that's why his shot turned into the worst. A big lol to him. Short-term suspension isn't enough. Should be years or kicked them out of the league.
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April 15, 2021, 03:49:19 PM
This is not PBA but still it is Philippine basketball and some of the players were ex pros or ex PBA players so i think this worth a discussion here as it involve betting, fixed matches as they alleged.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/lapu-lapu-team-owner-laments-siquijor-for-having-no-intention-to-win-in-their-vismin-cup-match-a795-20210415?ref=home_featured_1

Article ^^ said that Siquijor team or some players were allegedly involved in game fixing and with that they were banned from Pilipinas Vis-Min Cup while some players from Lapu-lapu team were fined and suspended.

Do you believe in this accusation guys?

If this is true then they are ruining the game which we, Filipinos loved so much.  
They should be suspended. If there's strong evidence that they're playing the game as if they're throwing it, they have to accept the consequences.
Former Senator Jinggoy Estrada even gave his opinion that they should be banned and out of the league for life. If you'll watch some footage, those free throws are obviously thrown and intended to be missed. They're amateur in becoming professional or most of them are already professionals then they'll have that kind of free throw? they were missing those throws intentionally.
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April 15, 2021, 01:40:13 PM
This is not PBA but still it is Philippine basketball and some of the players were ex pros or ex PBA players so i think this worth a discussion here as it involve betting, fixed matches as they alleged.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/lapu-lapu-team-owner-laments-siquijor-for-having-no-intention-to-win-in-their-vismin-cup-match-a795-20210415?ref=home_featured_1

Article ^^ said that Siquijor team or some players were allegedly involved in game fixing and with that they were banned from Pilipinas Vis-Min Cup while some players from Lapu-lapu team were fined and suspended.

Do you believe in this accusation guys?

If this is true then they are ruining the game which we, Filipinos loved so much. 

If there's a solid evidence then there's no reason not to believe.

Some sports in the Philippines are corrupt, it's in our blood, lol.. (just kidding)>
I hope they'll punished, and while reading the article, it seems that I did not see a imprisonment punishment but only fine and suspension.
I guess they need to consider this as a serious offense with serious punishment, these people will continue to do their illegal activities for easy money.

Taking it as more offense than suspending those players, we can't deny the fact that there are fixed
matches that being executed all around in any sports in our country.

Some rumors also being reported before, even in collegiate leagues or even inside PBA, but without solid evidence those are still hearsays!

Such actions from those names involves should investigae further, time to clean it up and bring good thing in the name of the league that they are participating.
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April 15, 2021, 08:49:58 AM
This is not PBA but still it is Philippine basketball and some of the players were ex pros or ex PBA players so i think this worth a discussion here as it involve betting, fixed matches as they alleged.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/lapu-lapu-team-owner-laments-siquijor-for-having-no-intention-to-win-in-their-vismin-cup-match-a795-20210415?ref=home_featured_1

Article ^^ said that Siquijor team or some players were allegedly involved in game fixing and with that they were banned from Pilipinas Vis-Min Cup while some players from Lapu-lapu team were fined and suspended.

Do you believe in this accusation guys?

If this is true then they are ruining the game which we, Filipinos loved so much. 

If there's a solid evidence then there's no reason not to believe.

Some sports in the Philippines are corrupt, it's in our blood, lol.. (just kidding)>
I hope they'll punished, and while reading the article, it seems that I did not see a imprisonment punishment but only fine and suspension.
I guess they need to consider this as a serious offense with serious punishment, these people will continue to do their illegal activities for easy money.
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April 15, 2021, 06:55:35 AM
This is not PBA but still it is Philippine basketball and some of the players were ex pros or ex PBA players so i think this worth a discussion here as it involve betting, fixed matches as they alleged.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/lapu-lapu-team-owner-laments-siquijor-for-having-no-intention-to-win-in-their-vismin-cup-match-a795-20210415?ref=home_featured_1

Article ^^ said that Siquijor team or some players were allegedly involved in game fixing and with that they were banned from Pilipinas Vis-Min Cup while some players from Lapu-lapu team were fined and suspended.

Do you believe in this accusation guys?

If this is true then they are ruining the game which we, Filipinos loved so much. 
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April 15, 2021, 06:20:25 AM
..but I just don't undertand what's their plan now as it's already April and they haven't made an announcement yet.

It's ok. No one is even expecting they will still push the league this month. The league won't push for an opening without teams training. They said teams must be given at least 2 weeks of practice but not possible for now because of the current restrictions not allowing sports activities.

MECQ will last until the end of the Month and I think that will be the last one and Manila will revert back again to GCQ where the practice is now allowed.  Doing Math, the expected opening can be the 3rd or 4th week of May, of course still depends on what will be the situation that time.

Thanks for that estimate, I have no problem if they delay the start of the season but I hope they'll start soon. I already miss the action in the PBA, it's really different in the NBA, I mean I like to support our very own and the betting every game is something I miss also.
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April 14, 2021, 11:04:31 PM
What does it mean? it means there could be exntesion on the MECQ if the cases will still not drop.
maybe @Sanitough he is talking about the entire Philippines.

The number of cases doesn't drop down if we talked about the entire Philippines and the most hotspots are on NCR Bubble Plus (Manila, Laguna, Rizal, Bulacan, Cavite). And the bad news, there's an increasing number of cases outside the NCR Plus so there's no such thing as numbers are being dropped.
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1418134/covid-19-cases-rising-outside-ncr-plus-bubble
This isn't really a good news, but probably those who are living in the province would not feel it because the restriction is not as strict with the big cities with bigger population.

By the way, what's your input guys to Raymond Almazan's statement that his Meralco team should also be considered as one of the contenders in the upcoming conference.

I think it's right, Meralco once went into the Finals against Ginebra IIRC, and they have added some players that could help their campaign, I think they are really serious and Almazan has been a big help for this team.
I have to be honest with this, no matter what happens even if you put a super team against genebra there is only one way you can defeat them if you face them in the finals, is to bury them with 20 point lead every game, or else you can't win against them, I'm not speculating but refs are leaning to them, seen it with my own eyes watching the game, there is no way you can defeat them in the series, extend your lead to win.
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April 14, 2021, 09:50:22 PM
What does it mean? it means there could be exntesion on the MECQ if the cases will still not drop.
maybe @Sanitough he is talking about the entire Philippines.

The number of cases doesn't drop down if we talked about the entire Philippines and the most hotspots are on NCR Bubble Plus (Manila, Laguna, Rizal, Bulacan, Cavite). And the bad news, there's an increasing number of cases outside the NCR Plus so there's no such thing as numbers are being dropped.
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1418134/covid-19-cases-rising-outside-ncr-plus-bubble
This isn't really a good news, but probably those who are living in the province would not feel it because the restriction is not as strict with the big cities with bigger population.

By the way, what's your input guys to Raymond Almazan's statement that his Meralco team should also be considered as one of the contenders in the upcoming conference.

I think it's right, Meralco once went into the Finals against Ginebra IIRC, and they have added some players that could help their campaign, I think they are really serious and Almazan has been a big help for this team.
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April 14, 2021, 09:34:29 PM
What does it mean? it means there could be exntesion on the MECQ if the cases will still not drop.
maybe @Sanitough he is talking about the entire Philippines.

The number of cases doesn't drop down if we talked about the entire Philippines and the most hotspots are on NCR Bubble Plus (Manila, Laguna, Rizal, Bulacan, Cavite). And the bad news, there's an increasing number of cases outside the NCR Plus so there's no such thing as numbers are being dropped.
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1418134/covid-19-cases-rising-outside-ncr-plus-bubble

By the way, what's your input guys to Raymond Almazan's statement that his Meralco team should also be considered as one of the contenders in the upcoming conference.
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April 14, 2021, 06:24:36 PM
There has been reports that the number of cases has gone down due to the measures in place now

Manila? There are no reports that the number of cases is decreasing. It was even more performing lol. Maybe just around your areas. The situation here in Manila is worst because of overhyping the effect of the virus. This becomes a business so the decrease of numbers will be the end for money-making schemes.

Back in PBA, they are really like that even before. With or without pandemics, they can't keep up with their timeline on giving updates.

Because they are not certain on what to give, until now they have not decided on when they'll start the PBA.

https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2021/3/23/OCTA-COVID-cases-go-down-unlikely-two-weeks.html
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Reducing COVID-19 cases ‘unlikely’ in two weeks, says OCTA fellow

What does it mean? it means there could be exntesion on the MECQ if the cases will still not drop.
maybe @Sanitough he is talking about the entire Philippines.

This data could be useful as statistics.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/philippines/
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April 14, 2021, 06:16:46 PM
There has been reports that the number of cases has gone down due to the measures in place now

Manila? There are no reports that the number of cases is decreasing. It was even more performing lol. Maybe just around your areas. The situation here in Manila is worst because of overhyping the effect of the virus. This becomes a business so the decrease of numbers will be the end for money-making schemes.

Back in PBA, they are really like that even before. With or without pandemics, they can't keep up with their timeline on giving updates.
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April 14, 2021, 05:42:06 PM
..but I just don't undertand what's their plan now as it's already April and they haven't made an announcement yet.

It's ok. No one is even expecting they will still push the league this month. The league won't push for an opening without teams training. They said teams must be given at least 2 weeks of practice but not possible for now because of the current restrictions not allowing sports activities.



There has been reports that the number of cases has gone down due to the measures in place now, so there's a good result of the MECQ and hopefully that would help to bring the measures down to GCQ, but as what most of us think here, PBA will surely be in a bubble once they commence.

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MECQ will last until the end of the Month and I think that will be the last one and Manila will revert back again to GCQ where the practice is now allowed.  Doing Math, the expected opening can be the 3rd or 4th week of May, of course still depends on what will be the situation that time.
There's nothing wrong in waiting so I'll wait because I understand the current situation though I'm not in Manila.
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April 14, 2021, 05:16:43 PM
..but I just don't undertand what's their plan now as it's already April and they haven't made an announcement yet.

It's ok. No one is even expecting they will still push the league this month. The league won't push for an opening without teams training. They said teams must be given at least 2 weeks of practice but not possible for now because of the current restrictions not allowing sports activities.

MECQ will last until the end of the Month and I think that will be the last one and Manila will revert back again to GCQ where the practice is now allowed.  Doing Math, the expected opening can be the 3rd or 4th week of May, of course still depends on what will be the situation that time.
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April 14, 2021, 06:19:53 AM
This is a great idea, sports betting is a fairly wide market in the Philippines (after all a lot of Filipinos are into different forms of gambling anyway). The only issue here right now is the pandemic, hopefully we roll out vaccines ASAP to make everything go back to the norm.
Don't expect everything will be normal soon, even with the arrival of the vaccines. PBA will resume but probably in a bubble set up, but I just don't undertand what's their plan now as it's already April and they haven't made an announcement yet.

per report, they should have start April 11, but we pass that date already.
https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1133111
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