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Quote from: harizen on April 27, 2021, 04:28:30 PM

Pressed with own deadline, PBA to have dialogue with Malacañang

PBA is now making a move, to convince IATF to give the PBA the go-signal to proceed. That will be today, Wednesday, PH time, and according to PBA Chief, after the dialogue, we can expect an update after 1-2 years. One thing for sure here, it will be a bubble setup. And if the league can't start in June or July, it will be a single conference again.

And as confirmed in the report, "PBA already bought a vaccine" and just waiting for the arrival of it either next month or June.

I think they'll be allowed by the IATF. Gilas has been given permission to get back into their practice in Calam-bubble(Calamba).
It will be an assured thing for PBA and they have a high chance to get back soon and if it's going to be a bubble, we'll going to see more games most often.
Wait mate, is it a typo, 1-2 years? instead of 1-2 days?

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Pressed with own deadline, PBA to have dialogue with Malacañang

PBA is now making a move, to convince IATF to give the PBA the go-signal to proceed. That will be today, Wednesday, PH time, and according to PBA Chief, after the dialogue, we can expect an update after 1-2 days. One thing for sure here, it will be a bubble setup. And if the league can't start in June or July, it will be a single conference again.

And as confirmed in the report, "PBA already bought a vaccine" and just waiting for the arrival of it either next month or June.

edited: typo error thanks @blockman

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Looks like Mikey Willams is already a certain TNT player now.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/rookie-mikey-williams-lays-down-what-tnt-fans-can-expect-from-him-a795-20210427?ref=feed_1_section

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MIKEY Williams is glad to get the weeks-long negotiations out of the way and begin what he promises to be a fruitful partnership with TnT Tropang GIGA.ss.

“I’m excited. I’m just ready to get started and get the season underway,” said the 28-year old Fil-American guard just a day after signing a two-year maximum rookie deal with the flagship franchise of the MVP Group.

“I know it’s going to be an eventful season. Looking forward to getting back to the Philippines, be with the team, getting chemistry, and getting everything down so we can make a run at the championship."

let's see how he can help the TNT this season, will he be better than Ray Parks on contribution, or he is he just a regular guy?

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Quote from: Sled on April 26, 2021, 04:45:12 PM

They are making this sport look bad, it's gonna be between SMC vs MVP, I guess they should allow more teams to be added, just like the MPBL, more teams would make it better as it would result in less manipulation.

We can compare it to the difference between GMA and ABS-CBN in advertisement placing. ABS-CBN has a larger market compared to GMA that's why they charged more if some companies want to air a commercial on this station. In GMA, the cost is much lesser but on their primetime hits like Eat Bulaga, the cost will be different.

Back to PBA, they successfully built their reputation and gained a big audience over time. Being listed as a PBA team, the brand will be popular and advertised more. That's why a new team should have to pay a big listing fee as the brand will be exposed to PBA's big audience. Better than being only on a 30 secs duration of commercial at TV stations.

Quote from: Sled on April 26, 2021, 04:45:12 PM

people are smarter and they know what's going on inside the league.

But even with that, the PBA rating is so far still good even in Pandemic. That's because of the loyalty of some viewers and there is money flowing thru gambling that even non-PBA viewers putting bets to gamble.

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Quote from: Sled on April 26, 2021, 04:45:12 PM

They are making this sport look bad, it's gonna be between SMC vs MVP, I guess they should allow more teams to be added, just like the MPBL, more teams would make it better as it would result in less manipulation. If they want this league to be more successful, then they should start thinking of a change, it doesn't look good now to be honest, people are smarter and they know what's going on inside the league.

Very easy to say that they should add more teams, I think this has been a discussion and issue before but it's hard to get to that point. That's why teams are called franchise before the process of being on it is hard.
And as you notice, the remaining franchises are also coming from the top companies in the country. I agree to goinmerry that maintaining a team is very expensive and it's not that PBA don't like to add other teams but team owners find it expensive to get in.

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Quote from: Sled on April 26, 2021, 04:45:12 PM

They are making this sport look bad, it's gonna be between SMC vs MVP, I guess they should allow more teams to be added, just like the MPBL, more teams would make it better as it would result in less manipulation. If they want this league to be more successful, then they should start thinking of a change, it doesn't look good now to be honest, people are smarter and they know what's going on inside the league.

It's not as simple as you think. The market in PBA is so big that it can reach lots of people for the advertisement so a big money is needed before being allowed to be part of the PBA team (in case of expansion). And those organizations should prove that they can shoulder the cost of managing a team.

In 2019, Alaska owner says the cost of maintaining a PBA team is around P85 million and that’s just the basic operating expenses of a team that isn’t performing well. That cost is built around salaries of players, the coaching staff, and members of the support team: Practice players, ball boys, medical personnel, therapists and statisticians. Then there are the other yearly expenses like team uniforms for games and practices, training equipment, scouting equipment, rental of gyms for practices, allowances for out-of-town trips, food before and after every game and practice and other things that may crop up like medical emergencies. link

That's the reason why before being allowed in the league, a company or organization should have at least prove their financial capability.

It's different from MPBL.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on April 26, 2021, 08:53:39 AM

What do you think is the best team in the PBA now.

For me, I think it's the Ginebra San Miguel, why? because they have C. Stand.
https://pba.ph/news/aguilar-looks-forward-to-reunion-with-standhardinger

Aguilar and C. Stand playing together, they will make a tough team, I'm really excited to see how things will work out for them this season.

@mirakal, maybe add a poll on what team will win this coming season.

If you will see the roster of each team only, you will see the that line up of Ginebra San Miguel is the best so I will choose them as the best PBA team for this year.
There is a video created regarding the Power Rankings of each team. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD_nFQUVGMU

Overall, acquiring CStand in Ginebra is a big addition to their firepower already. We already saw that they won a championship without him and now they got a reliable big. I'm a SMB fan but with JMF still not 100% healthy, I don't think that they have a chance in winning a title.

On the other hand though, I don't want to expect too much on Ginebra because after all the ball is round. We've seen different teams that have a good roster but ending up disappointing their fans.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on April 26, 2021, 04:38:16 PM

Quote from: mirakal on April 26, 2021, 04:20:44 PM

I thought NLEX belongs to the MVP group, so they should also be given players that could compete with the big teams in the PBA. Correct me if I'm wrong, I just writing based on the result of my research. Maybe Coach Yeng cannot replicate the success he had during his time with the ROS, and comparing ROS to his team now, I guess NLEX is a bigger team, and yet he is less successful here compared to handling the ROS as a head coach before.

Though NLEX belong to the MVP group of companies, still they have to get into a normal process of getting more talented players and i think what frustrate coach Yeng is that TNT is the priority of the three MVP teams and NLEX is somewhat a farm team at the moment. I won't be surprised if K. Ravena would be traded to TNT in case Mikey Williams can't fulfill the duty that is expected of him.

They are making this sport look bad, it's gonna be between SMC vs MVP, I guess they should allow more teams to be added, just like the MPBL, more teams would make it better as it would result in less manipulation. If they want this league to be more successful, then they should start thinking of a change, it doesn't look good now to be honest, people are smarter and they know what's going on inside the league.

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Quote from: mirakal on April 26, 2021, 04:20:44 PM

I thought NLEX belongs to the MVP group, so they should also be given players that could compete with the big teams in the PBA. Correct me if I'm wrong, I just writing based on the result of my research. Maybe Coach Yeng cannot replicate the success he had during his time with the ROS, and comparing ROS to his team now, I guess NLEX is a bigger team, and yet he is less successful here compared to handling the ROS as a head coach before.

Though NLEX belong to the MVP group of companies, still they have to get into a normal process of getting more talented players and i think what frustrate coach Yeng is that TNT is the priority of the three MVP teams and NLEX is somewhat a farm team at the moment. I won't be surprised if K. Ravena would be traded to TNT in case Mikey Williams can't fulfill the duty that is expected of him.

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Quote from: mirakal on April 26, 2021, 04:20:44 PM

I thought NLEX belongs to the MVP group, so they should also be given players that could compete with the big teams in the PBA.

NLEX good players are being traded to their sister team, the top team of MVP which is TNT KaTropa.

NLEX, even just a speculation, is a farm team of top MVP team.

Not checking the history but Meralco, also an MVP team, not sure if already got involved in a trade between NLEX.

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Quote from: harizen on April 26, 2021, 03:59:44 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on April 24, 2021, 04:27:10 PM

Coach Yeng are now talking non sense, why not include his team,

Honestly, his view makes sense. Let's face the reality.

In PBA, being optimistic, being hungry, being motivated, etc. are not enough to compete especially in All-Filipino Cup where there are no dominant imports that can lift up and carry a certain low to mid tier teams. Coach Yeng is just being realistic. They need a strong powerhouse cast to fulfill that being optimistic and motivated. This isn't a movie wherein just being a believer can be turned into success.

I also have the same thinking when Coach Yeng just gave up their bubble rally last year and ask his guys to just play it lightly. I thought they are just giving up but looking at the realistic side, even he will force his men to go all-out, they are lacking players that can compete against a much-stacked team like those in SMC and MVP.

I thought NLEX belongs to the MVP group, so they should also be given players that could compete with the big teams in the PBA. Correct me if I'm wrong, I just writing based on the result of my research. Maybe Coach Yeng cannot replicate the success he had during his time with the ROS, and comparing ROS to his team now, I guess NLEX is a bigger team, and yet he is less successful here compared to handling the ROS as a head coach before.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 24, 2021, 04:27:10 PM

Coach Yeng are now talking non sense, why not include his team,

Honestly, his view makes sense. Let's face the reality.

In PBA, being optimistic, being hungry, being motivated, etc. are not enough to compete especially in All-Filipino Cup where there are no dominant imports that can lift up and carry a certain low to mid tier teams. Coach Yeng is just being realistic. They need a strong powerhouse cast to fulfill that being optimistic and motivated. This isn't a movie wherein just being a believer can be turned into success.

I also have the same thinking when Coach Yeng just gave up their bubble rally last year and ask his guys to just play it lightly. I thought they are just giving up but looking at the realistic side, even he will force his men to go all-out, they are lacking players that can compete against a much-stacked team like those in SMC and MVP.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 26, 2021, 06:25:27 AM

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 25, 2021, 09:52:53 PM

A news, very hot news regarding Mikey Williams

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/mikey-williams-finally-officially-joins-tnt-tropang-giga-signs-two-year-deal-a793-20210426?ref=home_featured_2

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The 6-foot-2 Williams will finally come on board for the franchise after being signed to a two-year max contract.

Team manager Gabby Cui confirmed the deal on Monday.

The signing puts an end to the long standoff between the Tropang Giga and the highly-touted rookie picked No. 4 overall in the last PBA draft.

Under the deal, Williams, 28, will be receiving a total of P5.4 million in the next two years, including a monthly salary of P250,000 in his sophomore season.

Good that they ended up getting him because he can be a huge part of the team now that Ray Parks isn't playing. He might not get the 300,000 monthly salary that he wants, he got a max contract and a higher salary at his 2nd year and not only that, he also got a telecommunication franchise.

Any takeaway from you who are waiting for this news??

Good for him though, if he declines this contract, there's probably no other team that would take him in due to that attitude. At least he got into a good team and with that salary, I think he can settle with that amount.
He should be doing good with some of performance bonuses during his stay.

That's already a decent salary for a veteran, that's Php 225,000 on a monthly basis, higher than the max salary of a rookie which is only PHP 200,000. he deserved that salary, and I think it was already rumored that he will come back under the new coach, and finally it has already come into reality.

Maybe the issue with Ray Parks not signing for the team, open up an opportunity for new players and Williams could be one of the beneficiary.

Yes, it's already a decent amount that he shouldn't decline. Well, Ray Parks has some issue and it must be personal and he really don't want to play anymore under them or,
He asked for some raise about his contract and the deal didn't go through, I don't know, just giving some thoughts.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on April 26, 2021, 09:03:44 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on April 26, 2021, 08:53:39 AM

What do you think is the best team in the PBA now.

For me, I think it's the Ginebra San Miguel, why? because they have C. Stand.
https://pba.ph/news/aguilar-looks-forward-to-reunion-with-standhardinger

Aguilar and C. Stand playing together, they will make a tough team, I'm really excited to see how things will work out for them this season.

@mirakal, maybe add a poll on what team will win this coming season.

For this season, I agree that Ginebra have a higher chance in winning another title.

Knowing that SMB is not solid due to Fajardo is not 100% yet, and TNT are still blending its new chemistry.

With C.Stand attitude where he always been consistent with his game he's mentality to win always amazed me, from SMB to Global port he shows he's competitiveness, now he's been added to another super team for sure he'll able to offer not just for offense but for sure he's presence inside together with Aguilar will limit those offensive attempts.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'm adding a poll so we will know what everyone thinks of the new season. Are we gonna be witnessing an All Filipino Cup again, right? Feel free to vote, and don't forget to post the reason why you choose that specific team, not compulsory but it's appreciated if you'll comment.

I'll start voting, going with Ginebra.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on April 26, 2021, 08:53:39 AM

What do you think is the best team in the PBA now.

For me, I think it's the Ginebra San Miguel, why? because they have C. Stand.
https://pba.ph/news/aguilar-looks-forward-to-reunion-with-standhardinger

Aguilar and C. Stand playing together, they will make a tough team, I'm really excited to see how things will work out for them this season.

@mirakal, maybe add a poll on what team will win this coming season.

For this season, I agree that Ginebra have a higher chance in winning another title.

Knowing that SMB is not solid due to Fajardo is not 100% yet, and TNT are still blending its new chemistry.

With C.Stand attitude where he always been consistent with his game he's mentality to win always amazed me, from SMB to Global port he shows he's competitiveness, now he's been added to another super team for sure he'll able to offer not just for offense but for sure he's presence inside together with Aguilar will limit those offensive attempts.

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What do you think is the best team in the PBA now.

For me, I think it's the Ginebra San Miguel, why? because they have C. Stand.
https://pba.ph/news/aguilar-looks-forward-to-reunion-with-standhardinger

Aguilar and C. Stand playing together, they will make a tough team, I'm really excited to see how things will work out for them this season.

@mirakal, maybe add a poll on what team will win this coming season.

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Quote from: Viscore on April 26, 2021, 06:49:14 AM

GAB approves training bubble of Creamline, Choco Mucho in Clark

Maybe soon we will see news related to PBA which are approved to start their training.
If the can start next month, then we can expect that the PBA will resume in the last week or the start of June.

This is good news.

There's no confirmation yet, but that news you shared is probably a good start and PBA will have to remain hopeful as eventually they will also be allowed. PBA is not different from other leagues, it has physical contact and therefore they should be treated the same.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/mgcq-areas-rightful-place-for-pba-teams-to-start-practices-scrimmages-a793-20210423

That's the only update for now, but I'm optimistic soon we will see good news.

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GAB approves training bubble of Creamline, Choco Mucho in Clark

Maybe soon we will see news related to PBA which are approved to start their training.
If the can start next month, then we can expect that the PBA will resume in the last week or the start of June.

This is good news.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 25, 2021, 09:52:53 PM

A news, very hot news regarding Mikey Williams

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/mikey-williams-finally-officially-joins-tnt-tropang-giga-signs-two-year-deal-a793-20210426?ref=home_featured_2

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The 6-foot-2 Williams will finally come on board for the franchise after being signed to a two-year max contract.

Team manager Gabby Cui confirmed the deal on Monday.

The signing puts an end to the long standoff between the Tropang Giga and the highly-touted rookie picked No. 4 overall in the last PBA draft.

Under the deal, Williams, 28, will be receiving a total of P5.4 million in the next two years, including a monthly salary of P250,000 in his sophomore season.

Good that they ended up getting him because he can be a huge part of the team now that Ray Parks isn't playing. He might not get the 300,000 monthly salary that he wants, he got a max contract and a higher salary at his 2nd year and not only that, he also got a telecommunication franchise.

Any takeaway from you who are waiting for this news??

Good for him though, if he declines this contract, there's probably no other team that would take him in due to that attitude. At least he got into a good team and with that salary, I think he can settle with that amount.
He should be doing good with some of performance bonuses during his stay.

That's already a decent salary for a veteran, that's Php 225,000 on a monthly basis, higher than the max salary of a rookie which is only PHP 200,000. he deserved that salary, and I think it was already rumored that he will come back under the new coach, and finally it has already come into reality.

Maybe the issue with Ray Parks not signing for the team, open up an opportunity for new players and Williams could be one of the beneficiary.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 25, 2021, 09:52:53 PM

A news, very hot news regarding Mikey Williams

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/mikey-williams-finally-officially-joins-tnt-tropang-giga-signs-two-year-deal-a793-20210426?ref=home_featured_2

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The 6-foot-2 Williams will finally come on board for the franchise after being signed to a two-year max contract.

Team manager Gabby Cui confirmed the deal on Monday.

The signing puts an end to the long standoff between the Tropang Giga and the highly-touted rookie picked No. 4 overall in the last PBA draft.

Under the deal, Williams, 28, will be receiving a total of P5.4 million in the next two years, including a monthly salary of P250,000 in his sophomore season.

Good that they ended up getting him because he can be a huge part of the team now that Ray Parks isn't playing. He might not get the 300,000 monthly salary that he wants, he got a max contract and a higher salary at his 2nd year and not only that, he also got a telecommunication franchise.

Any takeaway from you who are waiting for this news??

Good for him though, if he declines this contract, there's probably no other team that would take him in due to that attitude. At least he got into a good team and with that salary, I think he can settle with that amount.
He should be doing good with some of performance bonuses during his stay.

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