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April 03, 2020, 05:58:38 PM
The weird fact is that he needs 666 points to reach that 10,000 points club. The good thing with Arwind Santos is that he is not a battered player since the arrival of Fajardo so i think he can still play ball even at the age of 42, he's very disciplined with his body also. The question that lingers on my mind is that "can he reach that 10,000 points before the age of 40?".
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With your post above i'm intrigued and dig up the points made by Santos last season, here's what i've found.

2019 Philippine Cup (10 games) - 146 points.
2019 Commissioner's Cup (10 games) 70 points.
2019 Governor's Cup (10 games) 105 points

He got a total of 321 points in the eliminations alone and we can see that Philippine Cup is his strongest. Let's just presumed that he got 500 points because they also played in the championship and play-off games. So he need at least 2 seasons to cover that 666 points needed. With things happening now, i think the PBA can't complete a season this year. He will be 40 next year in June so my guess that he will be in that elite club of 10,000 point when he is 40 years old lol.
 

 
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April 03, 2020, 03:39:03 PM
The weird fact is that he needs 666 points to reach that 10,000 points club. The good thing with Arwind Santos is that he is not a battered player since the arrival of Fajardo so i think he can still play ball even at the age of 42, he's very disciplined with his body also. The question that lingers on my mind is that "can he reach that 10,000 points before the age of 40?".

If the target is prior to age 40, we have 3 factors to look at:

1) PBA games is currently suspended. As also stated above, Santos will turn 39 this June. We aren't sure when will PBA season commence.

2) SMB is currently on a test lineup for either 2-3 games to cover the hole for Fajardo's absence. Since Fajardo is now out of the season, Santos will surely have great playing time. However, there's also a possibility that Fajardo will now be cleared of the injury once PBA came back and it will now lead to SMBs rotation back to usual. The estimated period of recovery, as of the first report is about a whole conference. PBA conference lasted at around 3 months if I'm not mistaken. Although we can expect that maybe Fajardo will have limited playing time once he came back or Austria will just use him in an important situation as they did a few years ago in the Finals, Santos might be used more compare to The Kraken.

3) PBA conference has 11 games each for a total of 33 games in a season (3 conferences exclude quarterfinals, semis, and finals). Santos needs to score 21 PPG perfectly the whole season to reach the 10,000 points which are not his usual average although he can add more points by performing well in the post-elimination which has a total of 15 games (if all game reached the sudden death until Finals).

In other words, this is tough for him Cheesy Once he turned 40, he must show no signs of slowing down as it might give way to their future gunners to step up more. I believed he will reach the 10,000 points club at the age of 42 or on his retirement season. However, we need to consider the Number 1.

Feel free to correct my Math lol.
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April 03, 2020, 02:22:08 PM
Arwind Santos is also at 38 and will turn 39 this June. Still, lots of works to be included in the 10,000 point mark as we know the SMB team has lots of scorers.

I agree with that, Santos although a good shooter but most of his shots now are just in 3 point range, he is not really the main scorer of the team so it will be hard for him to catch up. Anyway, to be included in top 20 is already a good achievement, that means he is better than the other players that is not included in the list, I'm even surprise I have not seen castro on the list.

He will struggle to reach that far since the ball is shared on smb and also the age factor is a huge burden plus there's current disease occuring which really affect his milestone, so for this I don't think he can reach that not unless if he still play balls at the age of 40.

The weird fact is that he needs 666 points to reach that 10,000 points club. The good thing with Arwind Santos is that he is not a battered player since the arrival of Fajardo so i think he can still play ball even at the age of 42, he's very disciplined with his body also. The question that lingers on my mind is that "can he reach that 10,000 points before the age of 40?".
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April 03, 2020, 05:18:31 AM
Arwind Santos is also at 38 and will turn 39 this June. Still, lots of works to be included in the 10,000 point mark as we know the SMB team has lots of scorers.

I agree with that, Santos although a good shooter but most of his shots now are just in 3 point range, he is not really the main scorer of the team so it will be hard for him to catch up. Anyway, to be included in top 20 is already a good achievement, that means he is better than the other players that is not included in the list, I'm even surprise I have not seen castro on the list.

He will struggle to reach that far since the ball is shared on smb and also the age factor is a huge burden plus there's current disease occuring which really affect his milestone, so for this I don't think he can reach that not unless if he still play balls at the age of 40.

And castro's game is seasonal age factor hits them up that's why he's little been slow down compare on the  past years of his career.

I noticed that castro has been facilitating the ball more than creating a point of his own, maybe he is now trying to keep himself healthy and to avoid from any injury, so maybe that's the reason why he is not in the list because if he would really like to score, for sure he can do that as he is the main man in his team.

Castro would not retire soon, he is just 33 years old so he can still play.

I made some research, of the sites I read, it says that castro has not reach 3,000 points yet in his career, which is very far compared to Santos points.
I also think that he will not reach the top 20 level since he like you said, he doesn't score much, maybe he is focusing on building on his assist stats compared to his points, that kind of play would fit on his age now.
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April 03, 2020, 04:52:24 AM
Arwind Santos is also at 38 and will turn 39 this June. Still, lots of works to be included in the 10,000 point mark as we know the SMB team has lots of scorers.

I agree with that, Santos although a good shooter but most of his shots now are just in 3 point range, he is not really the main scorer of the team so it will be hard for him to catch up. Anyway, to be included in top 20 is already a good achievement, that means he is better than the other players that is not included in the list, I'm even surprise I have not seen castro on the list.

He will struggle to reach that far since the ball is shared on smb and also the age factor is a huge burden plus there's current disease occuring which really affect his milestone, so for this I don't think he can reach that not unless if he still play balls at the age of 40.

And castro's game is seasonal age factor hits them up that's why he's little been slow down compare on the  past years of his career.
That's affect them much, both players are aging and in terms of skills they are not that focus, they just happy to work with the team
and provide whatever contributions that they can give to the team.
Winning is the focus and not and individual stats.
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April 03, 2020, 04:50:20 AM
Arwind Santos is also at 38 and will turn 39 this June. Still, lots of works to be included in the 10,000 point mark as we know the SMB team has lots of scorers.

I agree with that, Santos although a good shooter but most of his shots now are just in 3 point range, he is not really the main scorer of the team so it will be hard for him to catch up. Anyway, to be included in top 20 is already a good achievement, that means he is better than the other players that is not included in the list, I'm even surprise I have not seen castro on the list.

He will struggle to reach that far since the ball is shared on smb and also the age factor is a huge burden plus there's current disease occuring which really affect his milestone, so for this I don't think he can reach that not unless if he still play balls at the age of 40.

And castro's game is seasonal age factor hits them up that's why he's little been slow down compare on the  past years of his career.

I noticed that castro has been facilitating the ball more than creating a point of his own, maybe he is now trying to keep himself healthy and to avoid from any injury, so maybe that's the reason why he is not in the list because if he would really like to score, for sure he can do that as he is the main man in his team.
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April 03, 2020, 04:43:06 AM
Arwind Santos is also at 38 and will turn 39 this June. Still, lots of works to be included in the 10,000 point mark as we know the SMB team has lots of scorers.

I agree with that, Santos although a good shooter but most of his shots now are just in 3 point range, he is not really the main scorer of the team so it will be hard for him to catch up. Anyway, to be included in top 20 is already a good achievement, that means he is better than the other players that is not included in the list, I'm even surprise I have not seen castro on the list.

He will struggle to reach that far since the ball is shared on smb and also the age factor is a huge burden plus there's current disease occuring which really affect his milestone, so for this I don't think he can reach that not unless if he still play balls at the age of 40.

And castro's game is seasonal age factor hits them up that's why he's little been slow down compare on the  past years of his career.
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April 03, 2020, 04:30:21 AM
Arwind Santos is also at 38 and will turn 39 this June. Still, lots of works to be included in the 10,000 point mark as we know the SMB team has lots of scorers.

I agree with that, Santos although a good shooter but most of his shots now are just in 3 point range, he is not really the main scorer of the team so it will be hard for him to catch up. Anyway, to be included in top 20 is already a good achievement, that means he is better than the other players that is not included in the list, I'm even surprise I have not seen castro on the list.
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April 03, 2020, 04:17:49 AM
Good news to those PBA lovers and Esports lovers as well, Marc Pingris and Junemar Fajardo are going to play DOTA for a cause, for those who can relate to this game it's your time help and support the frontliners of our battle with this disease. I'm not an enthusiast of this game  Grin and don't have any idea of the mechanics on how we can support this endeavor.

https://www.pba.ph/news/pingris-fajardo-play-dota-for-worthwhile-cause



Oh, really, this is my first time I heard that those PBA Stars like Pingris and Fajardo have been joining in the E-sports playing. Well it was a good idea, because we are now in our homes because of the coronavirus outbreak and I think it is the best moment to try E-sports to prevent of getting bored in our homes. Me too I don’t know on how to support this famous PBA players, I think I will support them by watching this match at April 6. Thank you for sharing the good news to us.
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April 01, 2020, 06:35:29 PM
As we can see, J. Yap, Caguioa and Santos are the active players today. J. Yap can still catch up to Jerry Codiñera for the 11th rank even with the hiatus of PBA. Santos also has a chance to reach the 17th spot. However, for Caguioa, it looks like he will be in 15th place once he retires since even he is still active, his playing time is now mostly at the bench lol.

Nice information you brought here.

James Yap turned 38 last February so plenty of time left to pass the 11th rank and he is one of the main men for the Rain Or Shine so definitely even the PBA takes a break for now due to pandemic virus he has lots of opportunity and chances to achieve it.

Unlike for Caguaio, now near retirement and almost averaging 1-3 minute a game. He is now 40 years old so no chance now to break the 14th place. But achieving 10,000 points is already an achievement of a PBA player. Maybe that's the reason why he doesn't want to retire when he already passed his prime for him to be included in the 10,000 point marks.

Arwind Santos is also at 38 and will turn 39 this June. Still, lots of works to be included in the 10,000 point mark as we know the SMB team has lots of scorers.
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April 01, 2020, 06:19:26 PM
@ḧ̨͓̫̖̣̞̪̯́̄̋͘͡a̡̡̺̬̞r͎̜̦͓̞͇i̡͖̩̗͔̔̊̉́̅̆z̷̜͓͊̽͛̔̈͑͌̌̌ḛ̍̽̋̈̓͂͋̾̌n̨̛͇̙̫͉͙̮̔͐̒̎͘ͅ, great information. Non of the active players in the PBA now has reach the top 10 yet, and I was surprise James Yap is leading the scoring. Damn I think he is really good during his time with the san mig coffee and teams prior to that.

Now, I know the reason why they called him BIG GAME JAMES.

I'm wondering now if they really play good teamwork before compared today, and before games are more physical so scoring are less, we should be breaking that record already.
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April 01, 2020, 06:12:37 PM

Since most of us are now lurking most of the time in front of our desk, I've watched some of the basketball game highlights that marked in history either PBA, NBA, and MBA (the now, MPBL version).

One game highlight I watched is the 81-point game of Kobe Bryant and when LeBron James passed him in the All-time scoring leaders. It's now lead me to check the total score made by NBA players. Then somehow I lurk to PBA news and saw some article about its All-time Scoring Ladder so I began thinking, why the hell all these times, I didn't even think of checking the total scoring leaders in our own, Philippine Basketball Association. Cheesy

Here's the Top 20: ((Wiki is not updated)

1. Ramon Fernandez - 18,996
2. Abet Guidaben - 15,775
3. Alvin Patrimonio - 15,091
4. Atoy Co - 12,994
5. Nelson Asaytono - 12,668
6. Philip Cezar - 12,077
7. Jojo Lastimosa - 12,008
8. Bogs Adornado - 11,967
9. Robert Jaworski - 11,760
10. Allan Caidic - 11,719
11. Jerry Codiñera - 10,868
12. James Yap - 10,792
13. Benjie Paras - 10,322
14. Francis Arnaiz - 10,292
15. Mark Caguioa - 10,071
16. Freddie Hubalde - 9,927
17. Manny Victorino - 9,596   
18. Vergel Meneses - 9,453
19. Arnie Tuadles - 9,430
20. Arwind Santos - 9,334

As we can see, J. Yap, Caguioa and Santos are the active players today. J. Yap can still catch up to Jerry Codiñera for the 11th rank even with the hiatus of PBA. Santos also has a chance to reach the 17th spot. However, for Caguioa, it looks like he will be in 15th place once he retires since even he is still active, his playing time is now mostly at the bench lol.
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April 01, 2020, 10:32:41 AM
Thanks to this big companies who are complying with the president, they are bringing help to those less fortune people. It's a big lift as we knew
that the government can't handle everything but with the help of this different companies it will reach those who are in need.
Front-liners are very important right now and providing them the help will also help those that they are assisting.

It's the right time for these big companies to shine. Ramon S. Ang is a supporter of President Duterte on this time of crisis as he poured whatever resourses that he had to help the government on this fight. Government alone will be having a hard time containing this virus, they need the help of the business elite. After all when everything is over these big businesses will be the ones to gain something. They might be exempted to pat taxes for a year as an appreciation to what they have done  Grin.
All of us are into this fight even staying at home is our fight no to spread the virus. I really salute those people who have the heart to help the President and all the frontliners who do their specific duties, it's life threatening for them but they still work for all of us. Right now all we can do is to support them and abide to the order from the government.

And just later on he (President) addresses that the financial assistance should not be delayed and hoping that it will not be cut for who distributing it and he assigned it instead to DSWD and not to the LGUs, seems a good one because mostly LGUs, you know what I mean.
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March 31, 2020, 05:00:41 PM
Thanks to this big companies who are complying with the president, they are bringing help to those less fortune people. It's a big lift as we knew
that the government can't handle everything but with the help of this different companies it will reach those who are in need.
Front-liners are very important right now and providing them the help will also help those that they are assisting.

It's the right time for these big companies to shine. Ramon S. Ang is a supporter of President Duterte on this time of crisis as he poured whatever resourses that he had to help the government on this fight. Government alone will be having a hard time containing this virus, they need the help of the business elite. After all when everything is over these big businesses will be the ones to gain something. They might be exempted to pat taxes for a year as an appreciation to what they have done  Grin.
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March 31, 2020, 10:44:34 AM
Another good deeds of the SMC management, they are donating PPE's worth millions.

After alcohol and nutribuns, SMC donates P500 million for PPEs

They are showing that they can also share their big profits in time of crisis, Php 500 million is a huge sum of money, I can only think how profitable the SMC is and how big of a bonus the SMB team will receive when they win championship.
Thanks to this big companies who are complying with the president, they are bringing help to those less fortune people. It's a big lift as we knew
that the government can't handle everything but with the help of this different companies it will reach those who are in need.
Front-liners are very important right now and providing them the help will also help those that they are assisting.
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March 31, 2020, 09:26:25 AM
I would like to see them donating food or necessary equipment need to combat the pandemic than just giving the money and let the government distribute it as I don't have trust with the government, our government is corrupt, especially in the LGU as they will be the ones who will distribute the help to the people.

I partly agreed with that. Even so the DOLE: 250,000 workers to get aid amid COVID-19 quarantine promise to received P5,000 has been hold by the "others" employee company coz of the losses of company not making an income this crisis.
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March 31, 2020, 08:50:28 AM
The link you shared is not working, this is the correct link - https://pba.ph/news/aces-doing-their-share-in-own-small-way

well, you are correct, they are also doing their own initiative to help the people, I can say that PBA has a great organization as everyone is helping, from the team owner down to the player and the president like that especially the donation coming from the SMC.
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How about other teams? Did they also give something or help?

There's no news/update regarding to those other teams helping their employees and others. But if we look at the bright side a lot of well financially people helped silently without the camera, so most probably, let's just assume the way like that.

I would like to see them donating food or necessary equipment need to combat the pandemic than just giving the money and let the government distribute it as I don't have trust with the government, our government is corrupt, especially in the LGU as they will be the ones who will distribute the help to the people.
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March 31, 2020, 08:09:14 AM
The link you shared is not working, this is the correct link - https://pba.ph/news/aces-doing-their-share-in-own-small-way

well, you are correct, they are also doing their own initiative to help the people, I can say that PBA has a great organization as everyone is helping, from the team owner down to the player and the president like that especially the donation coming from the SMC.
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How about other teams? Did they also give something or help?

There's no news/update regarding to those other teams helping their employees and others. But if we look at the bright side a lot of well financially people helped silently without the camera, so most probably, let's just assume the way like that.
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March 31, 2020, 06:25:01 AM
The link you shared is not working, this is the correct link - https://pba.ph/news/aces-doing-their-share-in-own-small-way

well, you are correct, they are also doing their own initiative to help the people, I can say that PBA has a great organization as everyone is helping, from the team owner down to the player and the president like that especially the donation coming from the SMC.
Well I didn't know this news yet maybe I get busy thats why. It is good the even them has make their way to help others, also I read that Manny Pangilinan the owner of SMC already gave a lot to its employees and to the hospital. Glad that PBA members shows their support and help to those needy. How about other teams? Did they also give something or help?

Probably, since this is not a compulsory thing then we would not know everything, and some will prepare not to publish the help that they give.
Hopefully the "bayanihan" will enter in the hearts of the many who can afford to help financially, so together we can defeat the virus and we can get back our normal life.
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March 31, 2020, 06:09:30 AM
The link you shared is not working, this is the correct link - https://pba.ph/news/aces-doing-their-share-in-own-small-way

well, you are correct, they are also doing their own initiative to help the people, I can say that PBA has a great organization as everyone is helping, from the team owner down to the player and the president like that especially the donation coming from the SMC.
Well I didn't know this news yet maybe I get busy thats why. It is good the even them has make their way to help others, also I read that Manny Pangilinan the owner of SMC already gave a lot to its employees and to the hospital. Glad that PBA members shows their support and help to those needy. How about other teams? Did they also give something or help?
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