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Quote from: mirakal on March 03, 2020, 04:59:37 AM

Definitely, but isn't it right to try a new head coach, maybe the problem is not on the players but the coaching staff, Romeo and Pringle were the superstars of the PBA and yet they struggle to compete to good teams during their stay with the Northport and look at these two now, they are so valuable in their respective team.

I believed not with the coach but the management itself. Northport failed to surround these two with good supporting role players. Unlike today, Romeo is having a good teammate, well that's SMB, which is already a strong* team before he came and Pringle on the other hand, with the BGSM, which also one of the best team in the league.

Quote from: Questat on March 03, 2020, 11:12:13 AM

So we can assume that it's C Stand will be their new hope? Therefore, they should not think of trading him as they reach in the Semi lasts conference and C Stand was acting like an import and if C Stand will continue to play with the NP, his value will certain increase when his contract expires as for sure he will be the main man of the NP.

They reached the Semis last Governor's Cup also because of the big production by their import. But you know, they really struggle at that conference. Even with a good offensive power coming from their import and you can bet on CStand will do his best on the defense, still, they are lacking support.

Honestly, NorthPort before does have the best players in the league right now. If only they maintained it and successfully surround these players with role players, which also I mentioned above, maybe they are one of the most dominant teams today. Still hoping that other franchises outside San Miguel will finally rise on top to make PBA more competitive.

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Quote from: joshy23 on March 03, 2020, 11:06:20 AM

They've need to step up and bring something new to this league.

So we can assume that it's C Stand will be their new hope? Therefore, they should not think of trading him as they reach in the Semi lasts conference and C Stand was acting like an import and if C Stand will continue to play with the NP, his value will certain increase when his contract expires as for sure he will be the main man of the NP.

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Quote from: mirakal on March 03, 2020, 04:59:37 AM

Quote from: ultrloa on March 03, 2020, 04:13:45 AM

Money can do everything remember they release Romeo for nonsense player? So if the offer is good for sure they will sell stan. But I like Stan to remain there since if they will go on other powerhouse team for sure his time will be limited and NP should really need to build there team to win a champ.

Definitely, but isn't it right to try a new head coach, maybe the problem is not on the players but the coaching staff, Romeo and Pringle were the superstars of the PBA and yet they struggle to compete to good teams during their stay with the Northport and look at these two now, they are so valuable in their respective team.

Both players used their brains not to stay with NP, the management almost have the selections back then where NP reached the semis and played against Alaska. After losing the series NP just came out nothing and just keep doing the same thing over and over. They've need to step up and bring something new to this league.

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Quote from: mirakal on March 03, 2020, 04:59:37 AM

Quote from: ultrloa on March 03, 2020, 04:13:45 AM

Money can do everything remember they release Romeo for nonsense player? So if the offer is good for sure they will sell stan. But I like Stan to remain there since if they will go on other powerhouse team for sure his time will be limited and NP should really need to build there team to win a champ.

Definitely, but isn't it right to try a new head coach, maybe the problem is not on the players but the coaching staff, Romeo and Pringle were the superstars of the PBA and yet they struggle to compete to good teams during their stay with the Northport and look at these two now, they are so valuable in their respective team.

Let's check on his record in the PBA :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pido_Jarencio

The biggest achievement was when C Stand was already playing, they reach the Semis but they easily loss against the kings.
I am not sure if Coach Tim Cone could change this team if in case he will handle this, sorry about that, I just thought he is the best coach in the NBA right now, so he first on the job or maybe the previous coach of Alaska Alex Compton.

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Quote from: ultrloa on March 03, 2020, 04:13:45 AM

Money can do everything remember they release Romeo for nonsense player? So if the offer is good for sure they will sell stan. But I like Stan to remain there since if they will go on other powerhouse team for sure his time will be limited and NP should really need to build there team to win a champ.

Definitely, but isn't it right to try a new head coach, maybe the problem is not on the players but the coaching staff, Romeo and Pringle were the superstars of the PBA and yet they struggle to compete to good teams during their stay with the Northport and look at these two now, they are so valuable in their respective team.

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Quote from: Finestream on March 03, 2020, 04:03:29 AM

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Quote from: Finestream on March 02, 2020, 07:36:37 AM

Castro think : Jayson Castro feels Poy Erram the missing piece in TNT puzzle

Is it really Erram the missing piece of the team, I know he is good but as a big he is not that dominant in the inside.
They have good players like Pogoy and Ray parks, but honestly I believe they lack a center position that's why their defense is weak.

IMHO, Jayson Castro is just joking Grin

. Yeah you are right, Erram is not dominant in the middle and he does not attract a double team on him. He is just a regular big and he can help TNT win games but i doubt if he can carry the Katropa to championship.

Tnt is desperate on searching for that big that can compliment the games of Pogoy, Castro and Rosario. Tautoa was not a good fit for them that's why he was release from the team. If only the have not been outsmarted by SMB and Cstand landed on them, the PBA landscape would have neen different.

Exactly, every team now are hoping to land stand but will NP trade him without getting a good exchange.
TNT would be good with C Stand because he is smart and his experience in international games would really help, hopefully one day it would be possible.

Money can do everything remember they release Romeo for nonsense player? So if the offer is good for sure they will sell stan. But I like Stan to remain there since if they will go on other powerhouse team for sure his time will be limited and NP should really need to build there team to win a champ.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on March 03, 2020, 03:24:23 AM

Quote from: Finestream on March 02, 2020, 07:36:37 AM

Castro think : Jayson Castro feels Poy Erram the missing piece in TNT puzzle

Is it really Erram the missing piece of the team, I know he is good but as a big he is not that dominant in the inside.
They have good players like Pogoy and Ray parks, but honestly I believe they lack a center position that's why their defense is weak.

IMHO, Jayson Castro is just joking Grin

. Yeah you are right, Erram is not dominant in the middle and he does not attract a double team on him. He is just a regular big and he can help TNT win games but i doubt if he can carry the Katropa to championship.

Tnt is desperate on searching for that big that can compliment the games of Pogoy, Castro and Rosario. Tautoa was not a good fit for them that's why he was release from the team. If only the have not been outsmarted by SMB and Cstand landed on them, the PBA landscape would have neen different.

Exactly, every team now are hoping to land stand but will NP trade him without getting a good exchange.
TNT would be good with C Stand because he is smart and his experience in international games would really help, hopefully one day it would be possible.

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Quote from: Finestream on March 02, 2020, 07:36:37 AM

Castro think : Jayson Castro feels Poy Erram the missing piece in TNT puzzle

Is it really Erram the missing piece of the team, I know he is good but as a big he is not that dominant in the inside.
They have good players like Pogoy and Ray parks, but honestly I believe they lack a center position that's why their defense is weak.

IMHO, Jayson Castro is just joking Grin

. Yeah you are right, Erram is not dominant in the middle and he does not attract a double team on him. He is just a regular big and he can help TNT win games but i doubt if he can carry the Katropa to championship.

Tnt is desperate on searching for that big that can compliment the games of Pogoy, Castro and Rosario. Tautoa was not a good fit for them that's why he was release from the team. If only the have not been outsmarted by SMB and Cstand landed on them, the PBA landscape would have neen different.

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Quote from: Finestream on March 02, 2020, 06:24:39 PM

Quote from: mirakal on March 02, 2020, 07:51:33 AM

Quote from: Finestream on March 02, 2020, 07:36:37 AM

Castro think : Jayson Castro feels Poy Erram the missing piece in TNT puzzle

Is it really Erram the missing piece of the team, I know he is good but as a big he is not that dominant in the inside.
They have good players like Pogoy and Ray parks, but honestly I believe they lack a center position that's why their defense is weak.

When Castro says, he means it, but that remains to be seen though.
Erram was really that impressive with NLEX therefore he needs to work harder to give his team now a good chance for the all Filipino cup.
AFAIR, TNT is not really a good in ALL Filipino Cup but since they have Ray Parks now, it could be different.

by the way, 5 days to go before the new conference will commence. https://www.pba.ph/

At this time I guess TNT would not have a hard time since both big teams SMB and GINEBRA has no big man who are dominant inside, so if we look at the Centers of every team, there is a clear match since no one could really dominate the paint and this is good for the fans as we will be seeing a more competitive team and upsets are possible in this conference.

The good thing with Erram aside from being a good big men he can also give way for Troy Rosario to focus offensively, with both Castro and Pogoy
from your front having a good center to lean on probably gives them much higher confidence to shoot.
Everything will conclude after the team performs this conference,.

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Quote from: mirakal on March 02, 2020, 07:51:33 AM

Quote from: Finestream on March 02, 2020, 07:36:37 AM

Castro think : Jayson Castro feels Poy Erram the missing piece in TNT puzzle

Is it really Erram the missing piece of the team, I know he is good but as a big he is not that dominant in the inside.
They have good players like Pogoy and Ray parks, but honestly I believe they lack a center position that's why their defense is weak.

When Castro says, he means it, but that remains to be seen though.
Erram was really that impressive with NLEX therefore he needs to work harder to give his team now a good chance for the all Filipino cup.
AFAIR, TNT is not really a good in ALL Filipino Cup but since they have Ray Parks now, it could be different.

by the way, 5 days to go before the new conference will commence. https://www.pba.ph/

At this time I guess TNT would not have a hard time since both big teams SMB and GINEBRA has no big man who are dominant inside, so if we look at the Centers of every team, there is a clear match since no one could really dominate the paint and this is good for the fans as we will be seeing a more competitive team and upsets are possible in this conference.

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Quote from: Finestream on March 02, 2020, 07:36:37 AM

Castro think : Jayson Castro feels Poy Erram the missing piece in TNT puzzle

Is it really Erram the missing piece of the team, I know he is good but as a big he is not that dominant in the inside.
They have good players like Pogoy and Ray parks, but honestly I believe they lack a center position that's why their defense is weak.

When Castro says, he means it, but that remains to be seen though.
Erram was really that impressive with NLEX therefore he needs to work harder to give his team now a good chance for the all Filipino cup.
AFAIR, TNT is not really a good in ALL Filipino Cup but since they have Ray Parks now, it could be different.

by the way, 5 days to go before the new conference will commence. https://www.pba.ph/

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Castro think : Jayson Castro feels Poy Erram the missing piece in TNT puzzle

Is it really Erram the missing piece of the team, I know he is good but as a big he is not that dominant in the inside.
They have good players like Pogoy and Ray parks, but honestly I believe they lack a center position that's why their defense is weak.

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Quote from: harizen on February 28, 2020, 05:45:31 PM

Quote from: Finestream on February 28, 2020, 05:53:42 AM

That's nice to hear, after his wife complain on about the process, maybe the commissioner listened to her.
I am sure there's a lot of fans that are excited for his comeback, but as the news already stated above, he will not be back this coming all filipino cup,.. it's okay, as long as he will be back playing again this year.

Knowing Marcial, I don't think he will just follow Abueva's wife rant. Actually, the wife is complaining about "what's" the process meaning she didn't know some of the details about it and she just calls to lift the ban as it already 9 months since imposed. But Marcial already said that Abueva knows all the process and up to him if he will make it secret or told the public about it. Kind of weird to me if Calvin didn't tell his wife about the whole process.

Anyways, another thing that Abueva's wife pointed out is that they need money to support the family so she calls now for the lifting of the suspension of her husband. My question is, Abueva is still under the Phoenix contract right? Meaning his salary is on-hold or freeze for the duration of ban period? Does anyone know or info about this? Can't find some on the web.

I haven't find any information regarding your query, but he was ban before when he was still playing with the Alaska Aces but he is getting his salary while he is serving the suspension, but with a fine. https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/06/24/18/pba-suspended-abueva-still-receiving-salary-from-alaska

The fact that the wife is complaining about the need of money to support the family, I am not sure if Abueva was still receiving a salary.

I get it, the wife is asking but the tone seems to be complaining for me.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 28, 2020, 05:53:42 AM

That's nice to hear, after his wife complain on about the process, maybe the commissioner listened to her.
I am sure there's a lot of fans that are excited for his comeback, but as the news already stated above, he will not be back this coming all filipino cup,.. it's okay, as long as he will be back playing again this year.

Knowing Marcial, I don't think he will just follow Abueva's wife rant. Actually, the wife is complaining about "what's" the process meaning she didn't know some of the details about it and she just calls to lift the ban as it already 9 months since imposed. But Marcial already said that Abueva knows all the process and up to him if he will make it secret or told the public about it. Kind of weird to me if Calvin didn't tell his wife about the whole process.

Anyways, another thing that Abueva's wife pointed out is that they need money to support the family so she calls now for the lifting of the suspension of her husband. My question is, Abueva is still under the Phoenix contract right? Meaning his salary is on-hold or freeze for the duration of ban period? Does anyone know or info about this? Can't find some on the web.

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Quote from: goinmerry on February 27, 2020, 05:28:42 PM

Abueva's behavior on the court is not acceptable and he is comfortable that he will just easily get away with that since there is no hard penalty.

It's not all the time that Abueva hit an opponent, it's just this one and its really big since there is an import involve, the PBA are just showing they are not tolerating it but if that happen to a Filipino player, I believe Abueva is already playing now. His style is really dirty so no doubt some people would hate him but that's his style and that's where he is effective destroying the offense of a player he is guarding.

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Quote from: harizen on February 27, 2020, 07:13:15 PM

Calvin Abueva few more steps away from getting ban lifted - PBA CHIEF

I'm not sure though what's that "few" really means or how long it will be. More importantly, it's progressing and surely Abueva will come back.

PBA must give him another chance even for last time. If he will become arrogant again on the court, then he's done.

Reading Marcial's statement about the process that Abueva goes through...

“He knows this since the start that he has to do this before he can get back. Calvin and I had an agreement that I won’t publicly say what he’ll do and it’s up to him if he wants to come out publicly with what we want him to do.”

.. makes me think that why Abueva's wife told at the interview that PBA must publicly show how the process is done (meaning she didn't know what else need to be done for the ban to be lifted) if in the first place his husband knows it all from the start.

That's nice to hear, after his wife complain on about the process, maybe the commissioner listened to her.
I am sure there's a lot of fans that are excited for his comeback, but as the news already stated above, he will not be back this coming all filipino cup,.. it's okay, as long as he will be back playing again this year.

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Calvin Abueva few more steps away from getting ban lifted - PBA CHIEF

I'm not sure though what's that "few" really means or how long it will be. More importantly, it's progressing and surely Abueva will come back.

PBA must give him another chance even for last time. If he will become arrogant again on the court, then he's done.

Reading Marcial's statement about the process that Abueva goes through...

“He knows this since the start that he has to do this before he can get back. Calvin and I had an agreement that I won’t publicly say what he’ll do and it’s up to him if he wants to come out publicly with what we want him to do.”

.. makes me think that why Abueva's wife told at the interview that PBA must publicly show how the process is done (meaning she didn't know what else need to be done for the ban to be lifted) if in the first place his husband knows it all from the start.

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Quote from: goinmerry on February 27, 2020, 05:28:42 PM

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I also agree that's enough and Abueva should be considered by PBA to come back and play.

He now feels being under a long-term ban so I hope he already realized what's wrong and should charge it to his experience as a lesson.

I'm expecting him to become a much more professional player once he comes back and shows everyone especially his fans that he really changes.

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So what's your opinion guys about Abueva's wife now ranting to call for her husband's return on the PBA.

For me, the penalty now served and enough. Give him now a chance to play. Abueva's behavior on the court is not acceptable and he is comfortable that he will just easily get away with that since there is no hard penalty. With a long duration of being penalized, I hope Abueva now becomes a much more responsible player once he comes back. Just look at his wife saying things about money meaning Calvin should love his work. They need money. They need PBA.

Maybe not in the upcoming conference but at least I hope to see him this season.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 25, 2020, 09:28:34 AM

I was browsing in the spin.ph site and I saw this news, so this confirms that abueva is still not available this Philippine cup too which made me think that the Phoenix will never have a decent chance of getting a championship.

Calvin Abueva still suspended for 2020 PH Cup. Marcial explains

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PBA commissioner Willie Marcial said Abueva is still suspended for the coming conference but he is still speaking with the controversial forward about the matter.

Even the wife of Abueva are disappointed on the length of time that he was still suspended.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/abueva-s-wife-a795-20200226?ref=feed_1_section

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CALVIN Abueva’s wife Sam aired her disappointment over the suspension of his husband which the PBA has refused to lift.

In a lengthy post on her Instagram account on Wednesday, Sam said she is clueless on why the PBA has not lifted the suspension on the controversial Phoenix Pulse forward which has now dragged on for nine months

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