2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 670.

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Quote from: harizen on February 28, 2020, 05:45:31 PM

Quote from: Finestream on February 28, 2020, 05:53:42 AM

That's nice to hear, after his wife complain on about the process, maybe the commissioner listened to her.
I am sure there's a lot of fans that are excited for his comeback, but as the news already stated above, he will not be back this coming all filipino cup,.. it's okay, as long as he will be back playing again this year.

Knowing Marcial, I don't think he will just follow Abueva's wife rant. Actually, the wife is complaining about "what's" the process meaning she didn't know some of the details about it and she just calls to lift the ban as it already 9 months since imposed. But Marcial already said that Abueva knows all the process and up to him if he will make it secret or told the public about it. Kind of weird to me if Calvin didn't tell his wife about the whole process.

Anyways, another thing that Abueva's wife pointed out is that they need money to support the family so she calls now for the lifting of the suspension of her husband. My question is, Abueva is still under the Phoenix contract right? Meaning his salary is on-hold or freeze for the duration of ban period? Does anyone know or info about this? Can't find some on the web.

I haven't find any information regarding your query, but he was ban before when he was still playing with the Alaska Aces but he is getting his salary while he is serving the suspension, but with a fine. https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/06/24/18/pba-suspended-abueva-still-receiving-salary-from-alaska

The fact that the wife is complaining about the need of money to support the family, I am not sure if Abueva was still receiving a salary.

I get it, the wife is asking but the tone seems to be complaining for me.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 28, 2020, 05:53:42 AM

That's nice to hear, after his wife complain on about the process, maybe the commissioner listened to her.
I am sure there's a lot of fans that are excited for his comeback, but as the news already stated above, he will not be back this coming all filipino cup,.. it's okay, as long as he will be back playing again this year.

Knowing Marcial, I don't think he will just follow Abueva's wife rant. Actually, the wife is complaining about "what's" the process meaning she didn't know some of the details about it and she just calls to lift the ban as it already 9 months since imposed. But Marcial already said that Abueva knows all the process and up to him if he will make it secret or told the public about it. Kind of weird to me if Calvin didn't tell his wife about the whole process.

Anyways, another thing that Abueva's wife pointed out is that they need money to support the family so she calls now for the lifting of the suspension of her husband. My question is, Abueva is still under the Phoenix contract right? Meaning his salary is on-hold or freeze for the duration of ban period? Does anyone know or info about this? Can't find some on the web.

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Quote from: goinmerry on February 27, 2020, 05:28:42 PM

Abueva's behavior on the court is not acceptable and he is comfortable that he will just easily get away with that since there is no hard penalty.

It's not all the time that Abueva hit an opponent, it's just this one and its really big since there is an import involve, the PBA are just showing they are not tolerating it but if that happen to a Filipino player, I believe Abueva is already playing now. His style is really dirty so no doubt some people would hate him but that's his style and that's where he is effective destroying the offense of a player he is guarding.

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Quote from: harizen on February 27, 2020, 07:13:15 PM

Calvin Abueva few more steps away from getting ban lifted - PBA CHIEF

I'm not sure though what's that "few" really means or how long it will be. More importantly, it's progressing and surely Abueva will come back.

PBA must give him another chance even for last time. If he will become arrogant again on the court, then he's done.

Reading Marcial's statement about the process that Abueva goes through...

“He knows this since the start that he has to do this before he can get back. Calvin and I had an agreement that I won’t publicly say what he’ll do and it’s up to him if he wants to come out publicly with what we want him to do.”

.. makes me think that why Abueva's wife told at the interview that PBA must publicly show how the process is done (meaning she didn't know what else need to be done for the ban to be lifted) if in the first place his husband knows it all from the start.

That's nice to hear, after his wife complain on about the process, maybe the commissioner listened to her.
I am sure there's a lot of fans that are excited for his comeback, but as the news already stated above, he will not be back this coming all filipino cup,.. it's okay, as long as he will be back playing again this year.

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Calvin Abueva few more steps away from getting ban lifted - PBA CHIEF

I'm not sure though what's that "few" really means or how long it will be. More importantly, it's progressing and surely Abueva will come back.

PBA must give him another chance even for last time. If he will become arrogant again on the court, then he's done.

Reading Marcial's statement about the process that Abueva goes through...

“He knows this since the start that he has to do this before he can get back. Calvin and I had an agreement that I won’t publicly say what he’ll do and it’s up to him if he wants to come out publicly with what we want him to do.”

.. makes me think that why Abueva's wife told at the interview that PBA must publicly show how the process is done (meaning she didn't know what else need to be done for the ban to be lifted) if in the first place his husband knows it all from the start.

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Quote from: goinmerry on February 27, 2020, 05:28:42 PM

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I also agree that's enough and Abueva should be considered by PBA to come back and play.

He now feels being under a long-term ban so I hope he already realized what's wrong and should charge it to his experience as a lesson.

I'm expecting him to become a much more professional player once he comes back and shows everyone especially his fans that he really changes.

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So what's your opinion guys about Abueva's wife now ranting to call for her husband's return on the PBA.

For me, the penalty now served and enough. Give him now a chance to play. Abueva's behavior on the court is not acceptable and he is comfortable that he will just easily get away with that since there is no hard penalty. With a long duration of being penalized, I hope Abueva now becomes a much more responsible player once he comes back. Just look at his wife saying things about money meaning Calvin should love his work. They need money. They need PBA.

Maybe not in the upcoming conference but at least I hope to see him this season.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 25, 2020, 09:28:34 AM

I was browsing in the spin.ph site and I saw this news, so this confirms that abueva is still not available this Philippine cup too which made me think that the Phoenix will never have a decent chance of getting a championship.

Calvin Abueva still suspended for 2020 PH Cup. Marcial explains

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PBA commissioner Willie Marcial said Abueva is still suspended for the coming conference but he is still speaking with the controversial forward about the matter.

Even the wife of Abueva are disappointed on the length of time that he was still suspended.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/abueva-s-wife-a795-20200226?ref=feed_1_section

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CALVIN Abueva’s wife Sam aired her disappointment over the suspension of his husband which the PBA has refused to lift.

In a lengthy post on her Instagram account on Wednesday, Sam said she is clueless on why the PBA has not lifted the suspension on the controversial Phoenix Pulse forward which has now dragged on for nine months

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I was browsing in the spin.ph site and I saw this news, so this confirms that abueva is still not available this Philippine cup too which made me think that the Phoenix will never have a decent chance of getting a championship.

Calvin Abueva still suspended for 2020 PH Cup. Marcial explains

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PBA commissioner Willie Marcial said Abueva is still suspended for the coming conference but he is still speaking with the controversial forward about the matter.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 25, 2020, 04:46:17 AM

He is already aging, he will only earn small minutes but he can still be useful to the team, the reason why he is still signed by the management.

Indeed, even he is not as stong as before, at least he still make ways to adapt like improving his perimeter shooting (do you notice it or it's just me? Grin

). He is still definitely useful for the team and besides he already knew their coach than anyone else. Tim Cone got him wherever he go (since when they're on Alaska during the past) which only means that their player-coach relationship was already intact and that aspect of basketball is very important since it was a teamwork game afterall

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Veterans can provide guidance to the young players as well, his contribution to the team is very big and even playing with limited minutes only, he can play in crucial situation where his experience will be useful, just like mark the spark which was given a playing time in tough situation and he was able to change the scenario of the game.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 25, 2020, 04:46:17 AM

He is already aging, he will only earn small minutes but he can still be useful to the team, the reason why he is still signed by the management.

Indeed, even he is not as stong as before, at least he still make ways to adapt like improving his perimeter shooting (do you notice it or it's just me? Grin

). He is still definitely useful for the team and besides he already knew their coach than anyone else. Tim Cone got him wherever he go (since when they're on Alaska during the past) which only means that their player-coach relationship was already intact and that aspect of basketball is very important since it was a teamwork game afterall

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Quote from: joshy23 on February 24, 2020, 12:49:15 PM

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Latest news from the PBA :

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Joe Devance signs one-year extension as Ginebra deals with Slaughter exit

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/joe-devance-one-year-contract-extension-barangay-ginebra-a793-20200222?ref=article_next_featured

He is already 38 years old and he will join among the oldie in the PBA, and that is again because of Slaughter's exit, they have enough space to sign big guys for the team to use. On the other news, Devance will left for Germany for stem cell treatment. how effective this kind of treatment? sorry no idea.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/joe-devance-leaves-for-germany-to-undergo-stem-cell-therapy-for-pain-a793-20200223?ref=feed_1_section

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on February 22, 2020, 10:18:18 PM

The only problem I see with SMB right now is their 2nd unit.

I am not seeing that problem, they have veterans who can provide some energy in the floor so i don't really see it as a problem.
They will only miss 2 players at most which is JMF and Romeo (pending result).

Don't worry they will be okay, they'll compete but I don't expect them to be champ without JMF.

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Quote from: chaser15 on February 22, 2020, 06:49:53 PM

Quote from: Vaculin on February 21, 2020, 09:05:04 AM

1-Fajardo
2-Lassiter
3-Romeo

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Maybe we can see a more competitive conference right now without Fajardo

. We saw how SMB dominate the All Filipino Cup winning 5 or 6 straight titles.

With the absence of Fajardo too, now is the time for Tautuaa to step up and play like how he played when he is on NorthPort. Many are saying that the CStand - Tautuaa trade favored the NorthPort and I agree with that but I know how SMB will utilize and use Mo.

The only problem I see with SMB right now is their 2nd unit. Base on their roster right now, their 2nd unit is worse than some of the 2nd units of some teams but their coach is an excellent coach so I believe that they will make a huge adjustments here and they are the defending champs right now. They will not just lose here that easily.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 22, 2020, 06:11:18 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on February 22, 2020, 09:38:08 AM

Quote from: Finestream on February 22, 2020, 12:43:21 AM

Quote from: joshy23 on February 22, 2020, 12:37:39 AM

the guards should score more to lessen the need for Japeth to contribute from the offensive stats.

It's time for Stanley Pringle to carry this team, I know he can do that with the support of his teammates, IMO, he is the most capable of producing good offence in the team as he is not afraid to attract the paint and that is the thing they should focus since GSM is not really a good 3 point shooting team.

He tried to do it when he is still on GlobalPort and he became a scoring champion too. He has the capability to do it and he showed it also last conference. He is a fast guard so alongside other guards like Tenorio, Thompson they can dominate other teams. Regarding the 3 point shooting, I don't see anybody of them who is good at 3 point shooting so I will agree with this. They are good inside the paint but not that good on the outside so maybe they can train on this.

he will be more effective now that he is in a team where there's a lot of great players, if the coach would give him that freedom to shoot the ball more often then for sure he will have a good scoring this conference. Unlike in Northport, the Ginebra is more of a defensive team so we can expect they'll have an outstanding record this conference.

Interesting to see if what adjustment they've bring for Stanley knowing that there's no BrownLee to help them from this conference, knowing the characteristic of Stan he can create plays if coach Tim will let him though it's still LA who will manage the game plan but if LA will bring the ball
most of the time and allow Stan to make his move and go straight to the basket.
All filipino conference is now unpredictable since Fajardo is not there to play for SMB and adjustments from different teams are showing no one knows
who will dominate this season.

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Quote from: Vaculin on February 21, 2020, 09:05:04 AM

1-Fajardo
2-Lassiter
3-Romeo

SMB is now used to play without Lassiter. They already worked on that. For Romeo, he only played for SMB for 1 whole season so I think the adjustment will not be difficult as they will just shift their guards back into their usual roles when Romeo wasn't there yet.

Only with the disappearance of Fajardo, I think they will make some big adjustments as Fajardo solely holds the Center position, unlike Romeo where there are lots of backups and replacements that can fill his position.

The next conference now becoming a more competitive one. SMB's offensive strength lessens a bit but it doesn't mean they will be removed as one of the favorites.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on February 22, 2020, 09:38:08 AM

Quote from: Finestream on February 22, 2020, 12:43:21 AM

Quote from: joshy23 on February 22, 2020, 12:37:39 AM

the guards should score more to lessen the need for Japeth to contribute from the offensive stats.

It's time for Stanley Pringle to carry this team, I know he can do that with the support of his teammates, IMO, he is the most capable of producing good offence in the team as he is not afraid to attract the paint and that is the thing they should focus since GSM is not really a good 3 point shooting team.

He tried to do it when he is still on GlobalPort and he became a scoring champion too. He has the capability to do it and he showed it also last conference. He is a fast guard so alongside other guards like Tenorio, Thompson they can dominate other teams. Regarding the 3 point shooting, I don't see anybody of them who is good at 3 point shooting so I will agree with this. They are good inside the paint but not that good on the outside so maybe they can train on this.

he will be more effective now that he is in a team where there's a lot of great players, if the coach would give him that freedom to shoot the ball more often then for sure he will have a good scoring this conference. Unlike in Northport, the Ginebra is more of a defensive team so we can expect they'll have an outstanding record this conference.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 22, 2020, 12:43:21 AM

Quote from: joshy23 on February 22, 2020, 12:37:39 AM

the guards should score more to lessen the need for Japeth to contribute from the offensive stats.

It's time for Stanley Pringle to carry this team, I know he can do that with the support of his teammates, IMO, he is the most capable of producing good offence in the team as he is not afraid to attract the paint and that is the thing they should focus since GSM is not really a good 3 point shooting team.

He tried to do it when he is still on GlobalPort and he became a scoring champion too. He has the capability to do it and he showed it also last conference. He is a fast guard so alongside other guards like Tenorio, Thompson they can dominate other teams. Regarding the 3 point shooting, I don't see anybody of them who is good at 3 point shooting so I will agree with this. They are good inside the paint but not that good on the outside so maybe they can train on this.

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