Topic: 2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 672. (Read 101052 times)

I doubt they will even think of trading Japeth. Like you said, he has improved a lot and he is now the core of Ginebra's offense. Giving him away will disrupt their offense. I think that is not worth getting CStan.

In countries where big men are athletic, fast and shoot outside? I do not think he will be an effective player outside the Philippines. I respect his decision to take a break from basketball but if he takes too long,  I doubt he will still have a career in it.

The trick that we don't see it coming, you know, when the bosses tells the player what to do, they follow because they want to still play and earn money from playing their passion, but Greg to retire at his status now is very unlikely, so that's the trick and we are about to find out soon.

What's the trick there? Without Greg there is no rumor because I don't know if Northport would be interested to acquire a new player to trade with C stand and if ever they will, who would that player be?

That's the trick, with the rumors around are near to happen, this announcement of Greg make things complicated. Now that he decide to retire/not signing any contract to whichever teams offer his service make this situation much difficult for Ginebra. What's the next step who's going to be the player to trade in order to acquire CStand? unless Ginebra will buy the contract with other conditions about possible pick or underground negotiations with Batang Pier things still possible..

I thought that the Slaughter - CStan will happen anytime soon but this happened unexpectedly.

One reason that I see is his bashers because of how he is playing on the court. We know already he isn't that athletic compare to other bigs like JMF and CStan. Another reason is that he doesn't want to be traded so he made a move forward and chose to take a break from basketball.

This is just my opinion but I think if he will play in a professional league again, it will be outside the country. Maybe another country will get him to play for them.

NorthPort will not gamble on this one. They will not trade CStan at least this conference. We already saw that CStan is a perfect fit for NorthPort so they will not trade him right now. Even this is a plan for SMC management, I don't think that they will give him to other teams unless there is a good offer.

This is the 2nd time. I saw Chris Ellis did the same too. The only difference is Slaughter did this before the trade will happen. This is just a rumor but in anyway, his contract will be expired so there is a big chance that the trade will make place if Slaughter didn't made this decision.

I was also wrong thinking of a possible trade where in fact the contract has expired, no contract means no trade.

so what now, how would this speculation of ours going to happen?

Yeah you are right, I think most of us here got confused of the trade but actually no trade is going to happen since Greg has no more contract with the GSM or his contract was expired.



Therefore if there is a trade, in exchange of a big man stand, they need to take Japeth from GSM which I doubt GSM would allow after seeing Japeth have improve a lot in the past conference.

I just realized now that how can the GSM management trade a player who's no longer in contract with them  . It they want Cstand to be a part of Ginebra then who will they trade? I guess this move by Greg Slaughter is personal. The trade rumors is been there for a long time and i think he doesn't want to be traded so he made the first move to complicate things.

But whatever his decision, let's respect that.

I am seeing the different, maybe he was taking a break for honest reasons, IMO, he hasn't been as effective with the GSM team anymore, people does not expect him to dominate anymore, instead, when he is on the floor, their opponent likes to attack him because he is slow and sometimes getting out rebounded by smaller players, what I see when he play is that he isn't aggressive so his move can easily be predicted.

Without him in the line up this coming conference I think is a good sign for the GSM to be a better team in the All Filipino cup.

With the C stand Rumor, I don't want to speculate for now as I am not a fan of a big company manipulating the NBA to make their teams better while making the other teams worser.

Honestly, this is the first time I saw a star player taking a break in basketball, usually they like to play to entertain the fans to enjoy a great salary.
I can tell know that Basketball is not really Greg's passion or maybe he was influence by the management for their underground plans?  Hopefully we are all wrong here as the timing could really draw some doubt.

Coincidence that it happened while there is an on-going rumor about him placing on trade.

Maybe personal matters? He's now on 31 years old and taking a break is not a good idea. If that hiatus will take a long period, there is no assurance that some teams will still have an interest in him once he decided to play again as he will now enter the veteran tier. But the good thing in PBA, there's no such thing as oldies and we see players even at around 40 still playing at the league with a good role.

Well, that's his choice. Whatever the reason, fans should just understand it.

It's possible that it's part of the plan, SMB management are aiming for CStand being transferred to GSM with this move from Greg chance
to need big man to replace him gives high chance for CStand. It's interesting if after this break some big news about this rumor transferred
will materialized.

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Another not so good news for basketball fans in the Philippines specially the Cebuanos who are following the career's of these two gentle giants.

Greg Slaughter taking a break in the PBA? What happen? Personally, i think this year could be his year as JMF15 is out and he could dominate in the middle.

Is this part of the plan of SMB on having Cstand on the Gin Kings?

Your thought guys....

https://cnnphilippines.com/sports/basketball/2020/2/8/greg-slaughter-break.html

I think this is the reason why he formulated a rule like this. To be honest, the PBA right now isn't the same in the past where there are many audiences who would like to watch their favorite teams in live. If you are watching PBA, there are some games where the audiences are close to none and only a few games has many audiences. This is because of lack of competition. Some are saying that PBA right now is predictable already because the winning teams are just the same. SMB, Ginebra, Magnolia (Former Purefoods). Other teams doesn't have the chance to win a championship and this makes the league boring to watch for me.

I also agree with the rule that the Commissioner has created but it must have to be adjusted in some ways that it will favor those rookies. And regarding to the video you shared, it is not what I watched but this video

That is what I think too. Ginebra win with this trade even though some said it was a fair trade.

We know how these 2 bigs played in their past teams. CStan is the starting center of NorthPort and he is playing like 40+ minutes per game and this is a young kid and he is at his prime. He will be a big key for the Ginebra and a possible Grand Slam for them this year.

On the other hand, I know how Coach Pido is when it regards to his players and I believe that Slaughter will be a good fit to their team since they don't have a legitimate Center right now. He will be given more minutes unlike when he is in Ginebra where he is just a bench. Now we will see his true potential in the upcoming Philippine Cup.

Anyway, lets see how will these 2 bigs play on the Philippine Cup.

This is a physical sports so injury is really expected, they would not be paid a good contract or a salary if they are just playing soft basketball, NBA is soft, PBA is not because this is what fans are wanting to see and now slowly people loving PBA again.

Because Philippine basketball is popular for being physical that is why the management of PBA is allowing this kind of action that results into this more injuries nowadays.
But also you are right that excitement is lessen when our favorite players are not playing because of injuries.

I remember when the famous Player Robert Jaworzki is still playing more and more injured players are added in the names.and those are the days that fans wanted to see.

PBA looks more entertaining when its more Physical, injuries happens but thanks to the more advantage medication now, players with serious injury can still come back. Grey and Bollick were both young but these young fellas are not afraid to attack the paint, shoot the bull with confidence so they definitely are a big lose for the next conference. 

By the way, I'll attach the article for everyone to read : https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/robert-bolick-jonathan-grey-northport-injury-philippine-cup-a795-20200207?ref=feed_1_section

NorthPort was suppose to be a good team in the all Filipino cup as they have C Stand and got Nabong back in the line up, however, their support from the young and aggressive players are still not available. I am talking about Jonathan Grey and Robert Bollick, these two are still recovering from an injury and they will not be available next conference.

Injuries nowadays are really making the PBA less exciting to watch, maybe because the commissioner allows a more physical play?

Without any personal or serious reason for skipping on that, I agree with the new rule.

It should have no exception no matter how great or talented the player is. On the other hand, it's just applied to PBA so those players will still have a chance to be part of the national team for the international league or other local leagues.

I also agree that there should be a consideration. Maybe we can see the whole terms about this for us to discuss what should be those things that can be considered? Anyone with the link? I try to search for it but as we know PBA does have limited information showing the public the whole info of any rules.

I've also read this topic in social media. Maybe the reason why Commissioner Marcial brought out and emphasized this rule because i think he saw just so many worthy candidates for the draft that skip, it's not only Ravena. The likes of Munson and Jason Brickman can make an impact on the PBA but they did not join the league yet. I have a feeling that those players intentionally skip the 2019 draft because of the "Gilas special draft", they don't want to play for the National team.