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Quote from: LogitechMouse on February 05, 2020, 07:36:18 AM

I know that JMF will be out indefinitely and there is a possibility that he will be out for the whole conference and will be on the court again in the playoffs if they clinch (which is probably they will).

He will undergo a surgery so probably he will be out for the whole conference since the conference of the PBA is very short.
This is similar to what happen to Cousins of the Lakers where he was injured in the practice and until now he hasn't played yet.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on February 05, 2020, 07:36:18 AM

I have heard some rumors that Vic Manuel will be traded in the SMB for Mo Tautuaa but with this news, I don't think that SMB will agree with this trade right now because Tautuaa will be given more time right now and he will be the starting center now.

Lets watch him play right now. He played well on the NorthPort and he can be too with SMB Wink

Would love to welcome Manuel and trade Moh as Manuel can penetrate inside and a better post up player.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 05, 2020, 04:50:11 AM

Whooo, major setback for the Beermen's campaign in the All-Filipino Cup as their main man, JMF15 got injured.

Hope he will recover the soonest possible time. Damn, this is a very bad news for Philippines basketball but on the other hand, good news to other teams lol.

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Fajardo suffers leg injury, out indefinitely

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https://www.pba.ph/news/fajardo-suffers-leg-injury-out-indefinitely

I'm a SMB fan and this news is..... Damn it really happen on their practice.

I know that JMF will be out indefinitely and there is a possibility that he will be out for the whole conference and will be on the court again in the playoffs if they clinch (which is probably they will).
I have heard some rumors that Vic Manuel will be traded in the SMB for Mo Tautuaa but with this news, I don't think that SMB will agree with this trade right now because Tautuaa will be given more time right now and he will be the starting center now.

Lets watch him play right now. He played well on the NorthPort and he can be too with SMB Wink

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I am saddened of what happened to Fajardo, it's different when Fajardo is not playing with the SMB, he is the one bringing energy to the team and their shooters are very confident to shoot as they know Fajardo is always their to take the offensive rebounds.

Now they have to play their remaining centers who does not play good minutes when Fajardo was still active.

Mamaril, Tautuaa, and Escoto, these are the players playing with the center position according to (https://pba.ph/players?team=SMB)

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Quote from: Sanitough on February 05, 2020, 05:00:21 AM

Maybe what Time come is talking that they will try to win in this conference will become into reality.

I am sure you mean Tim Cone. yes, Ginebra wants to win the Philippine cup : https://pba.ph/news/la-tenorio-hell-bent-on-winning-philippine-cup

For the whole PBA fans, this isn't a good news as we are all wanting to see the KRAKEN play and dominate the paint, now, who would stop Gregzilla?

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 05, 2020, 04:50:11 AM

Whooo, major setback for the Beermen's campaign in the All-Filipino Cup as their main man, JMF15 got injured.

Hope he will recover the soonest possible time. Damn, this is a very bad news for Philippines basketball but on the other hand, good news to other teams lol.

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Fajardo suffers leg injury, out indefinitely

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https://www.pba.ph/news/fajardo-suffers-leg-injury-out-indefinitely

this is sad news for all beerman fans as San Miguel is one of the favorite in All Filipino conferences as they Mostly Got the Trophy of being a champion.

and with the Surgery needed for him to recover?the whole conference will he surely Miss,and even if he can play in the Mid or before the end of conference still he cannot Push the game as the fracture will hinder Him to do his Power plays.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 05, 2020, 04:50:11 AM

Whooo, major setback for the Beermen's campaign in the All-Filipino Cup as their main man, JMF15 got injured.

Hope he will recover the soonest possible time. Damn, this is a very bad news for Philippines basketball but on the other hand, good news to other teams lol.

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Fajardo suffers leg injury, out indefinitely

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https://www.pba.ph/news/fajardo-suffers-leg-injury-out-indefinitely

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Fajardo, according to the Beermen, suffered a "complete fracture on his right tibia" during team practice last Feb. 3, needing surgical procedure and a long rehab to get back to optimum health.

That post above really hurts the fans,...
When I see the word "indefinitely", that's a sign that it will take him a long period of time to rest and recover.

We were expecting here that they will again dominate in the All filipino cup but with that injury this looks like it's not gonna happen, and although this would bring some good balance on the team since Fajardo is out, but not good since he was suffering from a serious injury.

Maybe what Time come is talking that they will try to win in this conference will become into reality.

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Whooo, major setback for the Beermen's campaign in the All-Filipino Cup as their main man, JMF15 got injured.

Hope he will recover the soonest possible time. Damn, this is a very bad news for Philippines basketball but on the other hand, good news to other teams lol.

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Fajardo suffers leg injury, out indefinitely

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https://www.pba.ph/news/fajardo-suffers-leg-injury-out-indefinitely

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Quote from: mirakal on February 04, 2020, 03:45:56 AM

Here's where CJ Perez ranks among best rookie scoring averages

of the top 15, he ranked at number 3, so this kind is really special, I am surprise that Fajardo was not even in the top 15, maybe he wasn't that good when he was still a rookie, his hardwork made him to where he is right now.

Maybe it's because Perez and Parks played heavy minutes during their rookie year and they are considered the main man of Columbian Dyip and Blackwater Elite respectively. When Fajardo was drafted, the first two conferences were not good and he played limited minutes with limited touches plus he got injured and did not played for how many games. Fajardo's dominance blossomed on the Governor's Cup of his rookie year but too late for him to contend for the ROY award as he lacked the games played for that season. ROY was eventually won by Abueva that time.

A player will be given more minutes if the coaching staff saw some potential on them, so for sure Fajardo that time has no unleash his true potential yet and CJ Perez was also lucky to be playing in a team where there's lack of star player and although he was just a rookie, he was given an opportunity to lead the team and that makes him confident in playing, Ray Parks, this guy should not be in the competition for the reason that he does not look like a rookie, he was playing on the Alab Pilipinas before he got drafted in the PBA.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 04, 2020, 03:45:56 AM

Here's where CJ Perez ranks among best rookie scoring averages

of the top 15, he ranked at number 3, so this kind is really special, I am surprise that Fajardo was not even in the top 15, maybe he wasn't that good when he was still a rookie, his hardwork made him to where he is right now.

Maybe it's because Perez and Parks played heavy minutes during their rookie year and they are considered the main man of Columbian Dyip and Blackwater Elite respectively. When Fajardo was drafted, the first two conferences were not good and he played limited minutes with limited touches plus he got injured and did not played for how many games. Fajardo's dominance blossomed on the Governor's Cup of his rookie year but too late for him to contend for the ROY award as he lacked the games played for that season. ROY was eventually won by Abueva that time.

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Here's where CJ Perez ranks among best rookie scoring averages

of the top 15, he ranked at number 3, so this kind is really special, I am surprise that Fajardo was not even in the top 15, maybe he wasn't that good when he was still a rookie, his hardwork made him to where he is right now.

2 players in 2019 was added among the best rookies.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on February 03, 2020, 10:12:40 AM

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Quote from: NavI_027 on February 02, 2020, 09:25:09 PM

I haven't heard some news yet but I don't care either lol. Don't get me wrong, he is a really good player however I'm disappointed how he behaves every time he play. His counterpart in MMA is McGregor IMO — some people loves him and some not Grin

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They should at least give a chance, the suspension has been too long already, it's about time he will be given a chance to play again.
I believe he was playing outside too which I think the PBA organization does not like especially for active players as this could possibly injured them.

Plus, every player signed a contract to PBA so technically speaking they are private talents of the organization mentioned. Hmm, I guess Abueva's suspension will take longer if and only if he really broke a rule upon this action. *Sigh Tsk! What seems right now is that his talent is wasted. Well, that's the consequences of his previous actions, there's no one to blame but only him Sad

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If only he is professional enough, he could have come back a long time ago already, Calvin's talent is not only a waste in the PBA but also for the National team since he brings a lot of energy in the Floor and the Philippine team needs that especially if the opponents are stronger than the Philippines.

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That's an example of even how good a player is, if they behave like shit in the court, they will face the consequences.

Abueva will make a comeback but I think it's not the time yet. If PBA will take actions very lightly, the scenario will just repeat. Let Abueva rest for at least 3 seasons. On that long duration, he will surely never be a shit player again once he came back on the court as he will endure again that long penalty. If he doesn't change then he really has an attitude problem and there's no reason now for his PBA career to continue.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 03, 2020, 03:40:18 AM

Quote from: NavI_027 on February 02, 2020, 09:25:09 PM

I haven't heard some news yet but I don't care either lol. Don't get me wrong, he is a really good player however I'm disappointed how he behaves every time he play. His counterpart in MMA is McGregor IMO — some people loves him and some not Grin

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They should at least give a chance, the suspension has been too long already, it's about time he will be given a chance to play again.
I believe he was playing outside too which I think the PBA organization does not like especially for active players as this could possibly injured them.

Plus, every player signed a contract to PBA so technically speaking they are private talents of the organization mentioned. Hmm, I guess Abueva's suspension will take longer if and only if he really broke a rule upon this action. *Sigh Tsk! What seems right now is that his talent is wasted. Well, that's the consequences of his previous actions, there's no one to blame but only him Sad

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Quote from: Russlenat on February 03, 2020, 07:13:16 AM

On and off the court, Abueva is really a problem.

With committing offenses against the rules of the PBA like the example above, that would mean he is not really doing things to show the commissioner that he has change and he wants to come back and play, maybe playing outside could give him another income while he is still under suspension but he was not thinking his future violating the rules.

I don't know if we can ever see him again in the PBA, his life could be a mess right now.

Calvin Abueva, always having some problem in his game, maybe yes, he is a skilled basketball player but yet, honestly speaking he is a pain in the ass of his team and his manager as well, he always creating fight in the game, his temper makes him banned in some of his matches, but he is trying to lift up the banned on him based on this article:=https://sports.inquirer.net/380227/calvin-abueva-doing-everything-he-can-to-get-pba-ban-lifted-says-alas , also he is doing more good things so that he could be back as a better man said in that article.

Quote from: mirakal on February 03, 2020, 07:06:09 AM

Abueva, other PBA players who got caught playing in ‘ligang labas’
Even while serving his current indefinite suspension from the PBA, Calvin Abueva continues to hog headlines for all the wrong reasons.
The Phoenix Pulse Fuel Masters have reportedly fined their mercurial star an undisclosed amount after playing in an unsanctioned “ligang labas” basketball game in Montalban, Rizal on Monday. Abueva hasn’t played a PBA game since June, after being handed an indefinite ban by Commissioner Willie Marcial for two separate infractions.

This could be some of the reason while his suspension was still not left until now.

Yes, maybe the league wants to teach him some lessons, so that he will not be doing some shit things again, and he will be learning to be a low key professional player as well, let just wait the league on this things. Hope to see him in tokyo olympics as well. But really? he played here? I am living here in Rizal, maybe I am too busy that is why I didn't notice that he was here.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 02, 2020, 05:31:32 PM

Quote from: gunhell16 on February 02, 2020, 11:20:37 AM

Yes, that is true, i believe that the arrival of Standhardinger is one of the best addition to them.
They are now a big contender in the all Filipino cup. though, i also believe that this is now enough and they should get more star players and gunner.

If all the players will remain healthy, there's chances are certainly high.

And since Anthony was just given a max contract, I'm pretty sure he will be motivated than ever.

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But they are better than what they have before.

Without a doubt because Standhardinger is one of the best players in the PBA now.

He's addition really bring impact to this team, with healthy teammates this franchise might get higher chances to reach the finals or greater than what Pringle and Romeo bring to this team. If not mistaken this two Stars able to achieved the semis against Alaska that's a controversial as former commissioner fought with Hontiveros.

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On and off the court, Abueva is really a problem.

With committing offenses against the rules of the PBA like the example above, that would mean he is not really doing things to show the commissioner that he has change and he wants to come back and play, maybe playing outside could give him another income while he is still under suspension but he was not thinking his future violating the rules.

I don't know if we can ever see him again in the PBA, his life could be a mess right now.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 03, 2020, 03:40:18 AM

I just don't know if its allowed since he is suspended.

That is not allowed, here's some headline for that.

Abueva was suspended last June 4 2019 -https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/basketball/pba/232276-calvin-abueva-suspended-indefinitely
While this news came after. https://www.foxsports.ph/basketball/pba/1026272/pba-abueva-other-players-who-got-caught-playing-in-ligang-labas/

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Abueva, other PBA players who got caught playing in ‘ligang labas’

Even while serving his current indefinite suspension from the PBA, Calvin Abueva continues to hog headlines for all the wrong reasons.
The Phoenix Pulse Fuel Masters have reportedly fined their mercurial star an undisclosed amount after playing in an unsanctioned “ligang labas” basketball game in Montalban, Rizal on Monday. Abueva hasn’t played a PBA game since June, after being handed an indefinite ban by Commissioner Willie Marcial for two separate infractions.

This could be some of the reason while his suspension was still not left until now.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on February 02, 2020, 09:25:09 PM

I haven't heard some news yet but I don't care either lol. Don't get me wrong, he is a really good player however I'm disappointed how he behaves every time he play. His counterpart in MMA is McGregor IMO — some people loves him and some not Grin

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They should at least give a chance, the suspension has been too long already, it's about time he will be given a chance to play again.
I believe he was playing outside too which I think the PBA organization does not like especially for active players as this could possibly injured them.

This one is an old news but this tells how PBA are against it
https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/basketball/pba/154225-alaska-suspends-manuel-exciminiano

and this is Abueva playing outside the PBA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef7ifQ18whY&t=171s
I just don't know if its allowed since he is suspended.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on February 02, 2020, 06:23:40 PM

Quote from: mirakal on February 02, 2020, 05:31:32 PM

Without a doubt because Standhardinger is one of the best players in the PBA now.

I just don't know why the SMB let him go they are for sure the unstoppable duo with Fajardo on the board.

In my own perspective, the Kraken is already enough for the SMB. As you may notice, when Fajardo and CStand are both inside the court, their team are having a hard time to catch up, they are in slow pace due to those both big men and when this happen of course the opposing team take advantage of it by doing fast breaks or extreme ball rotation. Therefore, I agree that he was traded to other team. At least now he can have ample time inside the court which also means more opportunity to gain experience

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on February 02, 2020, 06:23:40 PM

What about the lift with The Beast Abueva are there some news about him?

I haven't heard some news yet but I don't care either lol. Don't get me wrong, he is a really good player however I'm disappointed how he behaves every time he play. His counterpart in MMA is McGregor IMO — some people loves him and some not Grin

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on February 02, 2020, 06:23:40 PM

Quote from: mirakal on February 02, 2020, 05:31:32 PM

Without a doubt because Standhardinger is one of the best players in the PBA now.

Definitely he is, what I'm impressed about him is his diligence on the court, a hard-working center I just hope he improve more on his perimeter shooting and he'll be as explosive. I just don't know why the SMB let him go they are for sure the unstoppable duo with Fajardo on the board.

What about the lift with The Beast Abueva are there some news about him?

Well if he improves his shooting he will be more dangerous on the court but sadly the only thing what he have is his hard work and hustle which could lift the spirit of his teammate but there's still a room for improvement better he should improve since the game is evolving. But I don't think he will be a good fit with fajardo tandem since they are loaded with star power already and stand will got a limited minutes if he stays their that's why it's good for him to go on another team so that he can showcase his skills and got more minutes in them.

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