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Quote from: Vaculin on February 13, 2020, 04:40:31 AM

This is the adjustment you guys are talking.

San Miguel planning to go 'small ball' in Fajardo's absence

They'll go small ball then they will be faster and they can do that for sure as they have great shooters and great PG who can handle the ball and make good plays at the same time.

I think they are inspired with the current Rockets strategy int he NBA. Grin

The first team to do this is the GSW (My Team Cheesy

). At that time, even they don't have a legitimate center (at that time, Looney is a bench center) they are still strong because of their starters are all around. Good defense, offense and one who is a good scorer and tall that can defend the paint (Durant).

Now the Rockets did it too but they are much smaller than the Warriors with Tucker as their center who is almost as tall as a point guard. I didn't watch their games but I know that they are focusing on threes and not on the inside. 3 is more than 2 Cheesy

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Now SMB are inspired with them and will try it also. I'm an SMB fan so I know their roster and what can I say is that - they will be weaker compare to their common line up. It would be better if they have a tall forward who can defend the paint and at the same time shoot outside. Unfortunately, SMB doesn't have this kind of player. Yeah they are faster for sure but when it comes to rebounds, they will be left behind.

Can I ask. If they will continue this thing, can you share the line up that they will use

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Quote from: Vaculin on February 13, 2020, 04:40:31 AM

This is the adjustment you guys are talking.

San Miguel planning to go 'small ball' in Fajardo's absence

They'll go small ball then they will be faster and they can do that for sure as they have great shooters and great PG who can handle the ball and make good plays at the same time.

I think they are inspired with the current Rockets strategy int he NBA. Grin

Why not, they still got those stars who can run and shoot, if all of them will step up TR7, Ross, Lassiter, Cabagnot and Santos, those names have special talents not because they are small means that they can't win good rotations and how the coach will adjust picking the right big guy to accompanied those star to help the defensive stop.

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Another news about Greg Slaughter, looks like this break will turn into retirement.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/greg-slaughter-looking-at-retirement-as-an-option-a793-20200213?ref=feed_1_section
Greg Slaughter looking at retirement as an option

"GREG Slaughter could well afford to retire and give up basketball if that's what it will take to avoid being used by Barangay Ginebra as a trade bait.

A person close to the seven-foot center said Slaughter was left with no other recourse but to take a playing sabbatical after all avenues failed in the big man’s effort to prevent his reported trade to NorthPort."

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Winding down.

This is the adjustment you guys are talking.

San Miguel planning to go 'small ball' in Fajardo's absence

They'll go small ball then they will be faster and they can do that for sure as they have great shooters and great PG who can handle the ball and make good plays at the same time.

I think they are inspired with the current Rockets strategy int he NBA. Grin

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Quote from: chaser15 on February 12, 2020, 05:00:35 PM

If you remember guys, 2015-16 Philippine Cup Finals, they consecutively loss 3 games to Alaska, almost a sweep. In Game 4, SMB managed to steal 1 game, thanks to the aggressiveness of Santos and Lassiter. Game 5, Fajardo returns after an injury he received during Semis and from there it really changed the series a lot until Game 7 where they become a champion. Fajardo is really a big deal and just because of him, the momentum shifted and they make history as the first team that won a championship after a 0-3 deficit.

I guess it will not happen in this conference because Fajardo is expected to have more rest and he might be out of the entire season.
The all Filipino cup conference is too short so I am not really expecting he will come back.

I still remember that NBA finals, that was a classic one and I think SMB made a history on that one when they come back from 0-3 deficit against the Alaska. But really,.. I am not expecting him to play in the all Filipino cup, they need to find a new option playing without him.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 12, 2020, 04:33:04 AM

I believe that SMB is still a competitive team even without Junemar Fajardo but i don't think they reach the semis without him. Those gunners that compliment JMF15's presence on the inside will be useless for now as opponents don't have to double anybody on the SMB squad. Imagine SMB as Petron before Fajardo came in. They are a very strong team on paper but it's opposite on the court.

SMB does have a powerhouse cast so it's always no question if SMB will still be competitive if Fajardo is out. As for reaching the Semis, it shouldn't be a problem if they will not reach it. The rank 3-6th spot will have a twice-to-beat advantage at quarterfinals. Although it requires extra works before reaching Semis, that's a great advantage. I'm seeing SMB will play at the 2-4th spot next conference without Fajardo on the lineup.

But expect difficulty on SMB if ever they will reach the finals without Fajardo. If you remember guys, 2015-16 Philippine Cup Finals, they consecutively loss 3 games to Alaska, almost a sweep. In Game 4, SMB managed to steal 1 game, thanks to the aggressiveness of Santos and Lassiter. Game 5, Fajardo returns after an injury he received during Semis and from there it really changed the series a lot until Game 7 where they become a champion. Fajardo is really a big deal and just because of him, the momentum shifted and they make history as the first team that won a championship after a 0-3 deficit.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 11, 2020, 07:09:10 AM

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Though this is just a tune up game but they can win against a healthy team so this is a sign that they will remain competitive once the next conference will commence.

I believe that SMB is still a competitive team even without Junemar Fajardo but i don't think they reach the semis without him. Those gunners that compliment JMF15's presence on the inside will be useless for now as opponents don't have to double anybody on the SMB squad. Imagine SMB as Petron before Fajardo came in. They are a very strong team on paper but it's opposite on the court.

Still on Greg Slaughter supposed to be vacation, i think he knows that he will be traded but he does not want to leave the Kings. I came across this article which i think have some truth in it.

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“What I know is that was already a done deal,” a source privy to the Slaughter-Standhardinger negotiations told the Inquirer over the phone. “It just hit a snag when he (Slaughter) did not sign [a renewal].”

https://sports.inquirer.net/385515/stranded-trade

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Quote from: mirakal on February 11, 2020, 05:38:57 PM

Quote from: harizen on February 11, 2020, 04:32:52 PM

Finding some clips to watch some highlights but looks like it will just be available after a few days or weeks or if others found one, can you share some here? Thanks Cool

I found one but I am not sure this is the one, here's the link..

SILIPIN: San Miguel Beermen at Rain or Shine, hinasa mga bagong player sa tune-up game

It's good to see that they are adjusting and using new players combining with their veterans but likewise, coach Leo might still be eyeing for any big man that will have a free agency due to Fajardo's absence.
They need more consistency from their outside shooters since they don't have a big threat inside, shooters and role players need to step up now.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 11, 2020, 05:38:57 PM

Quote from: harizen on February 11, 2020, 04:32:52 PM

Finding some clips to watch some highlights but looks like it will just be available after a few days or weeks or if others found one, can you share some here? Thanks Cool

I found one but I am not sure this is the one, here's the link..

SILIPIN: San Miguel Beermen at Rain or Shine, hinasa mga bagong player sa tune-up game

I can't recognize some of the players. And by the video title looks like they mostly only used those new players on both respective teams. Who are these new players? Only rookies? Although, at the article content shared by you above, it was Terrence Romeo who leads the SMB on that tune-up game.

Hope there are lots of tune-up games to be followed. Sad but true that rookies, even how good are they at college leagues, only receiving limited minutes on their first year. The next couple of conferences, most of them will mostly become a bench warmer because of the import's presence.

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Quote from: harizen on February 11, 2020, 04:32:52 PM

Finding some clips to watch some highlights but looks like it will just be available after a few days or weeks or if others found one, can you share some here? Thanks Cool

I found one but I am not sure this is the one, here's the link..

SILIPIN: San Miguel Beermen at Rain or Shine, hinasa mga bagong player sa tune-up game

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Quote from: mirakal on February 11, 2020, 07:09:10 AM

check this tune up game between SMB and ROS.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/san-miguel-beats-rain-or-shine-in-tune-up-game-without-fajardo-a795-20200211?ref=home_featured_1]San Miguel

Though this is just a tune up game but they can win against a healthy team so this is a sign that they will remain competitive once the next conference will commence.

Finding some clips to watch some highlights but looks like it will just be available after a few days or weeks or if others found one, can you share some here? Thanks Cool

This tune-up game is a good test for SMB's roster reshuffling. Glad to see that those veterans center are put in action although I don't know if Austria will do the same once the season starts. Fajardo's absence shouldn't be a problem. 4 gunners + 1 center or PF working on offensive and defensive phase at the paint should do the work.

Rain-Or-Shine also lost on their tune-up game against Magnolia last week. Surely they aren't going full since their bench players seen having good minutes.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 11, 2020, 07:09:10 AM

check this tune up game between SMB and ROS.

Quote from: https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/san-miguel-beats-rain-or-shine-in-tune-up-game-without-fajardo-a795-20200211?ref=home_featured_1

San Miguel beats Rain or Shine in tune-up game without Fajardo

SAN Miguel defeated Rain or Shine, 77-63, on Tuesday in a tune-up match at the Acropolis Gym as part of the Beermen’s build-up for the PBA Philippine Cup without five-time MVP June Mar Fajardo.

Terrence Romeo was one of the players that took command for the Beermen in the tune-up game after building a big lead in the first period.

Though this is just a tune up game but they can win against a healthy team so this is a sign that they will remain competitive once the next conference will commence.

Great to know that they have won the game against one of the best all filipino cup squad in the PBA.

While reading the link you shared, I also read about Fajardo's status and it tells us that he might be out for the rest of the season.

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Fajardo also could be out for the rest of the season depending on his recovery.

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Quote from: joshy23 on February 11, 2020, 06:12:53 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on February 11, 2020, 02:12:02 AM

Quote from: Hippocrypto on February 11, 2020, 12:49:28 AM

Indeed, Fajardo is one of the best that we can call but for now it's a long time break for him. For he couldn't play for the team until such time the injury got healed unto the process. This is the biggest challenge for the team where Junmar belongs to, and it really needs a total adjustments since this man was a strong asset for their team as well.

Exactly, the SMB needs to change their plan and it's good that Fajardo was injured before the season start so they can carefully think of a solution to their lacking good center position, it's now time for the substitute to show their heart and maybe shine in the next conference.

They need to adjust and equalized or be competitive without their giant. Fajardo's absence create a big impact to the entire game system of SMB but it's not limited to him alone, they still have the core players they just need to workout with Tautuaa as he will serve the big man position filling the need for Fajardo's absence.

SMB is an overpower team if there is no import allowed. The problem is only there import can't carry the tram to the Finals unlike Alex Durham and Brownlee which really shows an impressive statistics.

Adjusting there current line up is not a must even though Fajardo is out due to injury. They just need to work out the available big man in there roster since there is a lot of outside shooter available in there team. I don't think that they will acquire new big player to fill junmar role. Since Junmar will eventually come back again and building a new player skills is very hard compared on self adjustment of the remaining roster.

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check this tune up game between SMB and ROS.

Quote from: https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/san-miguel-beats-rain-or-shine-in-tune-up-game-without-fajardo-a795-20200211?ref=home_featured_1

San Miguel beats Rain or Shine in tune-up game without Fajardo

SAN Miguel defeated Rain or Shine, 77-63, on Tuesday in a tune-up match at the Acropolis Gym as part of the Beermen’s build-up for the PBA Philippine Cup without five-time MVP June Mar Fajardo.

Terrence Romeo was one of the players that took command for the Beermen in the tune-up game after building a big lead in the first period.

Though this is just a tune up game but they can win against a healthy team so this is a sign that they will remain competitive once the next conference will commence.

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Quote from: Sanitough on February 11, 2020, 02:12:02 AM

Quote from: Hippocrypto on February 11, 2020, 12:49:28 AM

Indeed, Fajardo is one of the best that we can call but for now it's a long time break for him. For he couldn't play for the team until such time the injury got healed unto the process. This is the biggest challenge for the team where Junmar belongs to, and it really needs a total adjustments since this man was a strong asset for their team as well.

Exactly, the SMB needs to change their plan and it's good that Fajardo was injured before the season start so they can carefully think of a solution to their lacking good center position, it's now time for the substitute to show their heart and maybe shine in the next conference.

They need to adjust and equalized or be competitive without their giant. Fajardo's absence create a big impact to the entire game system of SMB but it's not limited to him alone, they still have the core players they just need to workout with Tautuaa as he will serve the big man position filling the need for Fajardo's absence.

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Quote from: Sanitough on February 11, 2020, 02:12:02 AM

Quote from: Hippocrypto on February 11, 2020, 12:49:28 AM

Indeed, Fajardo is one of the best that we can call but for now it's a long time break for him. For he couldn't play for the team until such time the injury got healed unto the process. This is the biggest challenge for the team where Junmar belongs to, and it really needs a total adjustments since this man was a strong asset for their team as well.

Exactly, the SMB needs to change their plan and it's good that Fajardo was injured before the season start so they can carefully think of a solution to their lacking good center position, it's now time for the substitute to show their heart and maybe shine in the next conference.

SMB has no choice but to give Tautua a chance to shine, he is different compared to Fajardo but if he plays as the center, we can also expect that he can shot from the 3 point line or beyond.

18 days more to go and we will witness another all filipino cup - https://pba.ph/

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Quote from: Hippocrypto on February 11, 2020, 12:49:28 AM

Indeed, Fajardo is one of the best that we can call but for now it's a long time break for him. For he couldn't play for the team until such time the injury got healed unto the process. This is the biggest challenge for the team where Junmar belongs to, and it really needs a total adjustments since this man was a strong asset for their team as well.

Exactly, the SMB needs to change their plan and it's good that Fajardo was injured before the season start so they can carefully think of a solution to their lacking good center position, it's now time for the substitute to show their heart and maybe shine in the next conference.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 10, 2020, 06:45:43 PM

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Quote from: goinmerry on February 10, 2020, 06:15:44 PM

I think Ginebra fans should just move on to this. They are used to see and watch Ginebra with Slaughter getting limited minutes. There is no difference at all if he will still play or not. I didn't even think that just because Fajardo will be out of the next conference, Slaughter will be the next monster at the inside.

Actually, this news doesn't bother me at all since I'm not expecting huge things from him in the first place. No offense but he is not an efficient Center for me. He is slow thus can't rebound very well and can't make strong low posts as well, I know that he is good in his collegiate basketball days but in the PBA hjs performance fall down. To be honest, for me smaller centers in the league like Sanggalang and Almazan are much better to than him.

Anyway, Japeth is still there for the Ginebra. Let's trust the MVP Wink

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His strength actually is only his height, he doesn't need jump to get the ball but you are right, he is slow and let me add, soft as well.
The best Centers now IMO are Fajardo, C Stand, and Sanggalang, they are the most efficient and you can rely on them in crunch time to lift the team for a win.

Indeed, Fajardo is one of the best that we can call but for now it's a long time break for him. For he couldn't play for the team until such time the injury got healed unto the process. This is the biggest challenge for the team where Junmar belongs to, and it really needs a total adjustments since this man was a strong asset for their team as well.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on February 10, 2020, 06:35:49 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on February 10, 2020, 06:15:44 PM

I think Ginebra fans should just move on to this. They are used to see and watch Ginebra with Slaughter getting limited minutes. There is no difference at all if he will still play or not. I didn't even think that just because Fajardo will be out of the next conference, Slaughter will be the next monster at the inside.

Actually, this news doesn't bother me at all since I'm not expecting huge things from him in the first place. No offense but he is not an efficient Center for me. He is slow thus can't rebound very well and can't make strong low posts as well, I know that he is good in his collegiate basketball days but in the PBA hjs performance fall down. To be honest, for me smaller centers in the league like Sanggalang and Almazan are much better to than him.

Anyway, Japeth is still there for the Ginebra. Let's trust the MVP Wink

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His strength actually is only his height, he doesn't need jump to get the ball but you are right, he is slow and let me add, soft as well.
The best Centers now IMO are Fajardo, C Stand, and Sanggalang, they are the most efficient and you can rely on them in crunch time to lift the team for a win.

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Aside from Christian Standhardinger, who's other players on the trading list now?

I hope PBA trading activity became more aggressive especially at these long breaks. I understand if no trading activity will be done during each of the conferences but after the whole season, there should be big changes that will make fans more excited.

I'm against at Stand trade. San Miguel always has the advantage.

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