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Quote from: NavI_027 on February 03, 2020, 10:12:40 AM

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Quote from: NavI_027 on February 02, 2020, 09:25:09 PM

I haven't heard some news yet but I don't care either lol. Don't get me wrong, he is a really good player however I'm disappointed how he behaves every time he play. His counterpart in MMA is McGregor IMO — some people loves him and some not Grin

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They should at least give a chance, the suspension has been too long already, it's about time he will be given a chance to play again.
I believe he was playing outside too which I think the PBA organization does not like especially for active players as this could possibly injured them.

Plus, every player signed a contract to PBA so technically speaking they are private talents of the organization mentioned. Hmm, I guess Abueva's suspension will take longer if and only if he really broke a rule upon this action. *Sigh Tsk! What seems right now is that his talent is wasted. Well, that's the consequences of his previous actions, there's no one to blame but only him Sad

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If only he is professional enough, he could have come back a long time ago already, Calvin's talent is not only a waste in the PBA but also for the National team since he brings a lot of energy in the Floor and the Philippine team needs that especially if the opponents are stronger than the Philippines.

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That's an example of even how good a player is, if they behave like shit in the court, they will face the consequences.

Abueva will make a comeback but I think it's not the time yet. If PBA will take actions very lightly, the scenario will just repeat. Let Abueva rest for at least 3 seasons. On that long duration, he will surely never be a shit player again once he came back on the court as he will endure again that long penalty. If he doesn't change then he really has an attitude problem and there's no reason now for his PBA career to continue.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 03, 2020, 03:40:18 AM

Quote from: NavI_027 on February 02, 2020, 09:25:09 PM

I haven't heard some news yet but I don't care either lol. Don't get me wrong, he is a really good player however I'm disappointed how he behaves every time he play. His counterpart in MMA is McGregor IMO — some people loves him and some not Grin

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They should at least give a chance, the suspension has been too long already, it's about time he will be given a chance to play again.
I believe he was playing outside too which I think the PBA organization does not like especially for active players as this could possibly injured them.

Plus, every player signed a contract to PBA so technically speaking they are private talents of the organization mentioned. Hmm, I guess Abueva's suspension will take longer if and only if he really broke a rule upon this action. *Sigh Tsk! What seems right now is that his talent is wasted. Well, that's the consequences of his previous actions, there's no one to blame but only him Sad

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Quote from: Russlenat on February 03, 2020, 07:13:16 AM

On and off the court, Abueva is really a problem.

With committing offenses against the rules of the PBA like the example above, that would mean he is not really doing things to show the commissioner that he has change and he wants to come back and play, maybe playing outside could give him another income while he is still under suspension but he was not thinking his future violating the rules.

I don't know if we can ever see him again in the PBA, his life could be a mess right now.

Calvin Abueva, always having some problem in his game, maybe yes, he is a skilled basketball player but yet, honestly speaking he is a pain in the ass of his team and his manager as well, he always creating fight in the game, his temper makes him banned in some of his matches, but he is trying to lift up the banned on him based on this article:=https://sports.inquirer.net/380227/calvin-abueva-doing-everything-he-can-to-get-pba-ban-lifted-says-alas , also he is doing more good things so that he could be back as a better man said in that article.

Quote from: mirakal on February 03, 2020, 07:06:09 AM

Abueva, other PBA players who got caught playing in ‘ligang labas’
Even while serving his current indefinite suspension from the PBA, Calvin Abueva continues to hog headlines for all the wrong reasons.
The Phoenix Pulse Fuel Masters have reportedly fined their mercurial star an undisclosed amount after playing in an unsanctioned “ligang labas” basketball game in Montalban, Rizal on Monday. Abueva hasn’t played a PBA game since June, after being handed an indefinite ban by Commissioner Willie Marcial for two separate infractions.

This could be some of the reason while his suspension was still not left until now.

Yes, maybe the league wants to teach him some lessons, so that he will not be doing some shit things again, and he will be learning to be a low key professional player as well, let just wait the league on this things. Hope to see him in tokyo olympics as well. But really? he played here? I am living here in Rizal, maybe I am too busy that is why I didn't notice that he was here.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 02, 2020, 05:31:32 PM

Quote from: gunhell16 on February 02, 2020, 11:20:37 AM

Yes, that is true, i believe that the arrival of Standhardinger is one of the best addition to them.
They are now a big contender in the all Filipino cup. though, i also believe that this is now enough and they should get more star players and gunner.

If all the players will remain healthy, there's chances are certainly high.

And since Anthony was just given a max contract, I'm pretty sure he will be motivated than ever.

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But they are better than what they have before.

Without a doubt because Standhardinger is one of the best players in the PBA now.

He's addition really bring impact to this team, with healthy teammates this franchise might get higher chances to reach the finals or greater than what Pringle and Romeo bring to this team. If not mistaken this two Stars able to achieved the semis against Alaska that's a controversial as former commissioner fought with Hontiveros.

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On and off the court, Abueva is really a problem.

With committing offenses against the rules of the PBA like the example above, that would mean he is not really doing things to show the commissioner that he has change and he wants to come back and play, maybe playing outside could give him another income while he is still under suspension but he was not thinking his future violating the rules.

I don't know if we can ever see him again in the PBA, his life could be a mess right now.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 03, 2020, 03:40:18 AM

I just don't know if its allowed since he is suspended.

That is not allowed, here's some headline for that.

Abueva was suspended last June 4 2019 -https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/basketball/pba/232276-calvin-abueva-suspended-indefinitely
While this news came after. https://www.foxsports.ph/basketball/pba/1026272/pba-abueva-other-players-who-got-caught-playing-in-ligang-labas/

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Abueva, other PBA players who got caught playing in ‘ligang labas’

Even while serving his current indefinite suspension from the PBA, Calvin Abueva continues to hog headlines for all the wrong reasons.
The Phoenix Pulse Fuel Masters have reportedly fined their mercurial star an undisclosed amount after playing in an unsanctioned “ligang labas” basketball game in Montalban, Rizal on Monday. Abueva hasn’t played a PBA game since June, after being handed an indefinite ban by Commissioner Willie Marcial for two separate infractions.

This could be some of the reason while his suspension was still not left until now.

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Quote from: NavI_027 on February 02, 2020, 09:25:09 PM

I haven't heard some news yet but I don't care either lol. Don't get me wrong, he is a really good player however I'm disappointed how he behaves every time he play. His counterpart in MMA is McGregor IMO — some people loves him and some not Grin

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They should at least give a chance, the suspension has been too long already, it's about time he will be given a chance to play again.
I believe he was playing outside too which I think the PBA organization does not like especially for active players as this could possibly injured them.

This one is an old news but this tells how PBA are against it
https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/basketball/pba/154225-alaska-suspends-manuel-exciminiano

and this is Abueva playing outside the PBA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef7ifQ18whY&t=171s
I just don't know if its allowed since he is suspended.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on February 02, 2020, 06:23:40 PM

Quote from: mirakal on February 02, 2020, 05:31:32 PM

Without a doubt because Standhardinger is one of the best players in the PBA now.

I just don't know why the SMB let him go they are for sure the unstoppable duo with Fajardo on the board.

In my own perspective, the Kraken is already enough for the SMB. As you may notice, when Fajardo and CStand are both inside the court, their team are having a hard time to catch up, they are in slow pace due to those both big men and when this happen of course the opposing team take advantage of it by doing fast breaks or extreme ball rotation. Therefore, I agree that he was traded to other team. At least now he can have ample time inside the court which also means more opportunity to gain experience

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on February 02, 2020, 06:23:40 PM

What about the lift with The Beast Abueva are there some news about him?

I haven't heard some news yet but I don't care either lol. Don't get me wrong, he is a really good player however I'm disappointed how he behaves every time he play. His counterpart in MMA is McGregor IMO — some people loves him and some not Grin

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on February 02, 2020, 06:23:40 PM

Quote from: mirakal on February 02, 2020, 05:31:32 PM

Without a doubt because Standhardinger is one of the best players in the PBA now.

Definitely he is, what I'm impressed about him is his diligence on the court, a hard-working center I just hope he improve more on his perimeter shooting and he'll be as explosive. I just don't know why the SMB let him go they are for sure the unstoppable duo with Fajardo on the board.

What about the lift with The Beast Abueva are there some news about him?

Well if he improves his shooting he will be more dangerous on the court but sadly the only thing what he have is his hard work and hustle which could lift the spirit of his teammate but there's still a room for improvement better he should improve since the game is evolving. But I don't think he will be a good fit with fajardo tandem since they are loaded with star power already and stand will got a limited minutes if he stays their that's why it's good for him to go on another team so that he can showcase his skills and got more minutes in them.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 02, 2020, 05:31:32 PM

Without a doubt because Standhardinger is one of the best players in the PBA now.

Definitely he is, what I'm impressed about him is his diligence on the court, a hard-working center I just hope he improve more on his perimeter shooting and he'll be as explosive. I just don't know why the SMB let him go they are for sure the unstoppable duo with Fajardo on the board.

What about the lift with The Beast Abueva are there some news about him?

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Quote from: gunhell16 on February 02, 2020, 11:20:37 AM

Yes, that is true, i believe that the arrival of Standhardinger is one of the best addition to them.
They are now a big contender in the all Filipino cup. though, i also believe that this is now enough and they should get more star players and gunner.

If all the players will remain healthy, there's chances are certainly high.

And since Anthony was just given a max contract, I'm pretty sure he will be motivated than ever.

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But they are better than what they have before.

Without a doubt because Standhardinger is one of the best players in the PBA now.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 01, 2020, 06:42:08 AM

Quote from: Japinat on February 01, 2020, 06:00:03 AM

Northport should not only rely on the starters but they also have to improve their 2nd unit.

I think they already have a good roster.

https://pba.ph/teams/globalport-batang-pier

not sure if that list are updated but I believe Jonathan Grey, kevin Ferrer, and Gabo Lanete are all a decent players.

Yes, that is true, i believe that the arrival of Standhardinger is one of the best addition to them.
They are now a big contender in the all Filipino cup. though, i also believe that this is now enough and they should get more star players and gunner.
But they are better than what they have before.

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NLEX rewards top shooter Philip Paniamogan with two-year extension

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/philip-paniamogan-signs-two-year-deal-with-nlex-a795-20200201?ref=feed_1_section

A well deserved contract extension for Philip Paniamogan as he has been playing really well last conference.

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Known for his outside shooting, Paniamogan converted a team-high 58 three-pointers in 2019, and he averaged 7.5 points, 2.5 rebounds, and 2.3 assists for the Road Warriors.

They need him because every team aiming for championship has to have a good 3 point shooters in their roster and Philip is a class A 3 point shooter.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on February 02, 2020, 05:46:07 AM

It is a decent team to be honest but if you want to win a championship, at least get better players than their bench right now.

The thing is, I don't know if the team can afford to get a good player as good player always equals to good pay also.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on February 02, 2020, 05:46:07 AM

They can only contribute if they are red hot but they can't contribute that much when it comes to defensive stops. One problem too in their roster is they don't have a legitimate 2nd Center in their bench. Their current center isn't that familiar to me.

They'll eventually mature but in all Filipino, no center that is dominant in the league except Fajardo, we have some taller player like Greg Slaughter but he can't stop Fajardo, we've seen these two plays, if SMB will rely their offense more on Fajardo, more good things happen to the team but if Gins rely on Greg, bad things happen.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 01, 2020, 06:42:08 AM

Quote from: Japinat on February 01, 2020, 06:00:03 AM

Northport should not only rely on the starters but they also have to improve their 2nd unit.

I think they already have a good roster.
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It is a decent team to be honest but if you want to win a championship, at least get better players than their bench right now. They can only contribute if they are red hot but they can't contribute that much when it comes to defensive stops. One problem too in their roster is they don't have a legitimate 2nd Center in their bench. Their current center isn't that familiar to me.

Quote from: Japinat on February 01, 2020, 06:00:03 AM

What I noticed in the previous conference, both Christian Standhardinger and Sean Anthony are playing with heavy minutes and that is not good as they might run out of gas in the 4th quarter. Northport should not only rely on the starters but they also have to improve their 2nd unit.

This is one of their problems. If you will remember the time where CStan played more than 60 mins against the NLEX (I think it was Game 3 of Commissioners Cup). I'm not saying that CStan isn't a reliable center for them but it is fit for the team but he must have some rest or his load management will affect him throughout the season. A good center in their team will help them. If NorthPort will get a legitimate 2nd center, who would you pick Cheesy

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 01, 2020, 09:44:07 AM

You mean NLEX? They have not yet won a championship in the PBA.

I mean these two, sorry I got you confused, I already shared info above so these two have already won championship in different teams.

Well, they haven't win a championship with the NLEX, so hopefully they'll win this season, that would be a nice farewell gift.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 01, 2020, 08:31:32 AM

Quote from: NavI_027 on February 01, 2020, 07:59:30 AM

Hmm their line up is not as solid as the Ginebra or SMB but in all fairness they got stronger as CStand added on their team. Well, I also hope they will have a long and consistent run throughout the conference because honestly it's already getting a little bit boring to see SMB, TNT, Meralco, Ginebra, Magnolia (then repeat) in the Finals. I'm craving for new faces because this means new excitement

. I really hope they can now avoid choking during the QuarterFinals.

SMB got the better line up so I don't expect Northport to be in the Finals at the current line up now, even with Bollick and Anthony, this isn't a championship contender team.

So the other teams I mentioned a while ago will be seen again in the Semis? C'mon, I'm hoping not all of them (crossing fingers Grin

). I don't know if if I'm only just expecting more in this team or whatsoever but I'm really desperate to see a new champion. I'm a Ginebra fan but it's okay for me if underdog teams will bring home the bacon for now lol.

Though I also feel that their chances of becoming champion are still not enough, but who knows; we have our old saying afterall, "Bilog ang bola" Grin

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Quote from: Sanitough on February 01, 2020, 08:58:06 AM

NLEX eyes PBA title in possible farewell season for Asi Taulava, Cyrus Baguio

With the current line up, do you think NLEX can make it in the next PBA season?
Both players were definitely great during their prime but comes a time that they need to retire soon.

Next season would be still be hard for NLEX to reach a Finals. Philippine Cup belongs to the Beermen, the Governor's Cup and Commissioner's Cup are their chances but basing last conference where they got a dominant import and end up in the top of the standings but get eliminated by NorthPort, their moral is low. Just my thought.

Quote from: Sanitough on February 01, 2020, 08:58:06 AM

I am not sure if they already have won a championship.

You mean NLEX? They have not yet won a championship in the PBA.

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NLEX eyes PBA title in possible farewell season for Asi Taulava, Cyrus Baguio

With the current line up, do you think NLEX can make it in the next PBA season?
Both players were definitely great during their prime but comes a time that they need to retire soon.

~~I am not sure if they already have won a championship.~~ (they did based on info below)

Taulava's achievement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asi_Taulava)

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PBA champion (2003 All-Filipino)
PBA Finals MVP (2003 All-Filipino)
PBA Most Valuable Player (2003)

Cyrus Baguio's Achievement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_Baguio)

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3× PBA champion (2005–06 Fiesta, 2010 Fiesta, 2013 Commissioner's)
PBA Finals Most Valuable Player (2010 Fiesta co-MVP w/ L.A. Tenorio)

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