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Quote from: goinmerry on February 10, 2020, 06:15:44 PM

I think Ginebra fans should just move on to this. They are used to see and watch Ginebra with Slaughter getting limited minutes. There is no difference at all if he will still play or not. I didn't even think that just because Fajardo will be out of the next conference, Slaughter will be the next monster at the inside.

Actually, this news doesn't bother me at all since I'm not expecting huge things from him in the first place. No offense but he is not an efficient Center for me. He is slow thus can't rebound very well and can't make strong low posts as well, I know that he is good in his collegiate basketball days but in the PBA hjs performance fall down. To be honest, for me smaller centers in the league like Sanggalang and Almazan are much better to than him.

Anyway, Japeth is still there for the Ginebra. Let's trust the MVP Wink

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Quote from: harizen on February 10, 2020, 05:55:30 PM

But Marcial said that Slaughter is still under Ginebra's rights even the contract expired and he can be traded. Is that even possible? We really need to know the full terms here.

I am not sure it's possible, if there is a term like that then I believe it would only be possible with the sister teams as they control the decision making, but for other company, no one would trade their player in exchange for nothing.

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Quote from: arwin100 on February 10, 2020, 07:52:39 AM

We all know how good Tim cone is since he rotates his player and find the potential guy could fit to his triangle offense but seems Greg slowness doesn't give any effect and maybe it's time for them to pick another fast moving big man to play on their phase. But I wonder why Greg doesn't improve since he plays the league for so many years already that's why their organization always though about trading him.

He improved mate. It is not noticeable though since it doesn't create a big sound compare to what Japeth did. Slaughter is also prone to injury. Maybe the reason why he became inconsistent. Although it is really noticeable that he became slower now.

I think Ginebra fans should just move on to this. They are used to see and watch Ginebra with Slaughter getting limited minutes. There is no difference at all if he will still play or not. I didn't even think that just because Fajardo will be out of the next conference, Slaughter will be the next monster at the inside.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 10, 2020, 03:31:02 AM

I don't know but Greg is not more competitive as he was in the past, his shots looks awkward to me and has low percentage, he is only a threat in defense inside but in terms of points contribution, his been so inconsistent and for me, I think without him, GSM will be able to give chance to the other big man in the team which I believe coach Tim Cone is good in making experiment of his line up.

BGSM does have lots of gunners so no need for Gregzilla to focus on getting more points but instead maximize his capability in terms of defensive phase.

Still, I'm wondering, there are surely other teams that will show interest to Greg service but still, he decided to take a break. Is he ruining the future plans of BGSM management? Because of that, BGSM needs to think of other options that will put on the market just to pursue the Standhardinger trade.

But Marcial said that Slaughter is still under Ginebra's rights even the contract expired and he can be traded. Is that even possible? We really need to know the full terms here.

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Therefore if there is a trade, in exchange of a big man stand, they need to take Japeth from GSM which I doubt GSM would allow after seeing Japeth have improve a lot in the past conference.

I doubt they will even think of trading Japeth. Like you said, he has improved a lot and he is now the core of Ginebra's offense. Giving him away will disrupt their offense. I think that is not worth getting CStan.

Yeah, I was just talking about slim possibility as northport won't trade C Stand for a non star player.

We will know soon if there is an addition to the GSM now that Greg is already out for vacation, probably a long vacation. Grin

We all know how strong the organization what SMB group is and they will pledge their full power not to trade japeth to the other team and for sure they will get another fire power to help their team for departure of Greg but it this replacement issue has not been talk yet since I think they are still hopefully that Greg will still play at them.

I don't know but Greg is not more competitive as he was in the past, his shots looks awkward to me and has low percentage, he is only a threat in defense inside but in terms of points contribution, his been so inconsistent and for me, I think without him, GSM will be able to give chance to the other big man in the team which I believe coach Tim Cone is good in making experiment of his line up.

I still believe that Greg is a big addition for the GSM.
Especially now that Fajardo is not good and Slaughter is one of the biggest man in the league. But, Greggy is really slow and not consistent in his offensive side.
But we should never forget that D is the best offense.

We all know how good Tim cone is since he rotates his player and find the potential guy could fit to his triangle offense but seems Greg slowness doesn't give any effect and maybe it's time for them to pick another fast moving big man to play on their phase. But I wonder why Greg doesn't improve since he plays the league for so many years already that's why their organization always though about trading him.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on February 10, 2020, 03:47:45 AM

I still believe that Greg is a big addition for the GSM.

I hope he also think that way, otherwise why would he announce a break in basketball, maybe he has some self pity or something. (not sure)

Quote from: gunhell16 on February 10, 2020, 03:47:45 AM

Especially now that Fajardo is not good and Slaughter is one of the biggest man in the league. But, Greggy is really slow and not consistent in his offensive side.
But we should never forget that D is the best offense.

Fajardo is injured and no Greg Slaughter since he take a break.

if you haven't read the news yet, I get it for you - https://cnnphilippines.com/sports/basketball/2020/2/8/greg-slaughter-break.html

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Quote from: Finestream on February 10, 2020, 03:31:02 AM

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Quote from: Finestream on February 09, 2020, 03:17:43 AM

Therefore if there is a trade, in exchange of a big man stand, they need to take Japeth from GSM which I doubt GSM would allow after seeing Japeth have improve a lot in the past conference.

I doubt they will even think of trading Japeth. Like you said, he has improved a lot and he is now the core of Ginebra's offense. Giving him away will disrupt their offense. I think that is not worth getting CStan.

Yeah, I was just talking about slim possibility as northport won't trade C Stand for a non star player.

We will know soon if there is an addition to the GSM now that Greg is already out for vacation, probably a long vacation. Grin

We all know how strong the organization what SMB group is and they will pledge their full power not to trade japeth to the other team and for sure they will get another fire power to help their team for departure of Greg but it this replacement issue has not been talk yet since I think they are still hopefully that Greg will still play at them.

I don't know but Greg is not more competitive as he was in the past, his shots looks awkward to me and has low percentage, he is only a threat in defense inside but in terms of points contribution, his been so inconsistent and for me, I think without him, GSM will be able to give chance to the other big man in the team which I believe coach Tim Cone is good in making experiment of his line up.

I still believe that Greg is a big addition for the GSM.
Especially now that Fajardo is not good and Slaughter is one of the biggest man in the league. But, Greggy is really slow and not consistent in his offensive side.
But we should never forget that D is the best offense.

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Quote from: arwin100 on February 10, 2020, 02:05:28 AM

Quote from: Finestream on February 10, 2020, 01:57:13 AM

Quote from: jakelyson on February 09, 2020, 10:56:48 PM

Quote from: Finestream on February 09, 2020, 03:17:43 AM

Therefore if there is a trade, in exchange of a big man stand, they need to take Japeth from GSM which I doubt GSM would allow after seeing Japeth have improve a lot in the past conference.

I doubt they will even think of trading Japeth. Like you said, he has improved a lot and he is now the core of Ginebra's offense. Giving him away will disrupt their offense. I think that is not worth getting CStan.

Yeah, I was just talking about slim possibility as northport won't trade C Stand for a non star player.

We will know soon if there is an addition to the GSM now that Greg is already out for vacation, probably a long vacation. Grin

We all know how strong the organization what SMB group is and they will pledge their full power not to trade japeth to the other team and for sure they will get another fire power to help their team for departure of Greg but it this replacement issue has not been talk yet since I think they are still hopefully that Greg will still play at them.

I don't know but Greg is not more competitive as he was in the past, his shots looks awkward to me and has low percentage, he is only a threat in defense inside but in terms of points contribution, his been so inconsistent and for me, I think without him, GSM will be able to give chance to the other big man in the team which I believe coach Tim Cone is good in making experiment of his line up.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 10, 2020, 01:57:13 AM

Quote from: jakelyson on February 09, 2020, 10:56:48 PM

Quote from: Finestream on February 09, 2020, 03:17:43 AM

Therefore if there is a trade, in exchange of a big man stand, they need to take Japeth from GSM which I doubt GSM would allow after seeing Japeth have improve a lot in the past conference.

I doubt they will even think of trading Japeth. Like you said, he has improved a lot and he is now the core of Ginebra's offense. Giving him away will disrupt their offense. I think that is not worth getting CStan.

Yeah, I was just talking about slim possibility as northport won't trade C Stand for a non star player.

We will know soon if there is an addition to the GSM now that Greg is already out for vacation, probably a long vacation. Grin

We all know how strong the organization what SMB group is and they will pledge their full power not to trade japeth to the other team and for sure they will get another fire power to help their team for departure of Greg but it this replacement issue has not been talk yet since I think they are still hopefully that Greg will still play at them.

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Quote from: jakelyson on February 09, 2020, 10:56:48 PM

Quote from: Finestream on February 09, 2020, 03:17:43 AM

Therefore if there is a trade, in exchange of a big man stand, they need to take Japeth from GSM which I doubt GSM would allow after seeing Japeth have improve a lot in the past conference.

I doubt they will even think of trading Japeth. Like you said, he has improved a lot and he is now the core of Ginebra's offense. Giving him away will disrupt their offense. I think that is not worth getting CStan.

Yeah, I was just talking about slim possibility as northport won't trade C Stand for a non star player.

We will know soon if there is an addition to the GSM now that Greg is already out for vacation, probably a long vacation. Grin

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Quote from: Finestream on February 09, 2020, 03:17:43 AM

Therefore if there is a trade, in exchange of a big man stand, they need to take Japeth from GSM which I doubt GSM would allow after seeing Japeth have improve a lot in the past conference.

I doubt they will even think of trading Japeth. Like you said, he has improved a lot and he is now the core of Ginebra's offense. Giving him away will disrupt their offense. I think that is not worth getting CStan.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on February 09, 2020, 05:39:23 AM

This is just my opinion but I think if he will play in a professional league again, it will be outside the country. Maybe another country will get him to play for them.

In countries where big men are athletic, fast and shoot outside? I do not think he will be an effective player outside the Philippines. I respect his decision to take a break from basketball but if he takes too long, I doubt he will still have a career in it.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 09, 2020, 04:58:02 PM

Quote from: Golftech on February 09, 2020, 11:32:22 AM

That's the trick, with the rumors around are near to happen, this announcement of Greg make things complicated.

What's the trick there? Without Greg there is no rumor because I don't know if Northport would be interested to acquire a new player to trade with C stand and if ever they will, who would that player be?

The trick that we don't see it coming, you know, when the bosses tells the player what to do, they follow because they want to still play and earn money from playing their passion, but Greg to retire at his status now is very unlikely, so that's the trick and we are about to find out soon.

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Quote from: Golftech on February 09, 2020, 11:32:22 AM

That's the trick, with the rumors around are near to happen, this announcement of Greg make things complicated.

What's the trick there? Without Greg there is no rumor because I don't know if Northport would be interested to acquire a new player to trade with C stand and if ever they will, who would that player be?

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 09, 2020, 02:59:50 AM

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 08, 2020, 08:36:42 AM

~snip~

It's possible that it's part of the plan, SMB management are aiming for CStand being transferred to GSM with this move from Greg chance
to need big man to replace him gives high chance for CStand. It's interesting if after this break some big news about this rumor transferred
will materialized.

I just realized now that how can the GSM management trade a player who's no longer in contract with them

. It they want Cstand to be a part of Ginebra then who will they trade? I guess this move by Greg Slaughter is personal. The trade rumors is been there for a long time and i think he doesn't want to be traded so he made the first move to complicate things.

But whatever his decision, let's respect that.

That's the trick, with the rumors around are near to happen, this announcement of Greg make things complicated. Now that he decide to retire/not signing any contract to whichever teams offer his service make this situation much difficult for Ginebra. What's the next step who's going to be the player to trade in order to acquire CStand? unless Ginebra will buy the contract with other conditions about possible pick or underground negotiations with Batang Pier things still possible..

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 08, 2020, 08:36:42 AM

Breaking News...

Greg Slaughter takes break from basketball

I thought that the Slaughter - CStan will happen anytime soon but this happened unexpectedly.

Quote from: bisdak40 on February 08, 2020, 08:36:42 AM

Greg Slaughter taking a break in the PBA? What happen?

One reason that I see is his bashers because of how he is playing on the court. We know already he isn't that athletic compare to other bigs like JMF and CStan. Another reason is that he doesn't want to be traded so he made a move forward and chose to take a break from basketball.

This is just my opinion but I think if he will play in a professional league again, it will be outside the country. Maybe another country will get him to play for them.

Quote from: bisdak40 on February 08, 2020, 08:36:42 AM

Is this part of the plan of SMB on having Cstand on the Gin Kings?

NorthPort will not gamble on this one. They will not trade CStan at least this conference. We already saw that CStan is a perfect fit for NorthPort so they will not trade him right now. Even this is a plan for SMC management, I don't think that they will give him to other teams unless there is a good offer.

Quote from: mirakal on February 08, 2020, 06:28:12 PM

Honestly, this is the first time I saw a star player taking a break in basketball.

This is the 2nd time. I saw Chris Ellis did the same too. The only difference is Slaughter did this before the trade will happen. This is just a rumor but in anyway, his contract will be expired so there is a big chance that the trade will make place if Slaughter didn't made this decision.

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I was also wrong thinking of a possible trade where in fact the contract has expired, no contract means no trade.

so what now, how would this speculation of ours going to happen?

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 09, 2020, 02:59:50 AM

I just realized now that how can the GSM management trade a player who's no longer in contract with them

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Yeah you are right, I think most of us here got confused of the trade but actually no trade is going to happen since Greg has no more contract with the GSM or his contract was expired.

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“Now that my contract has expired, I’ve decided to take a break to be able to work on myself in all aspects,” Slaughter said.

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https://cnnphilippines.com/sports/basketball/2020/2/8/greg-slaughter-break.html

Therefore if there is a trade, in exchange of a big man stand, they need to take Japeth from GSM which I doubt GSM would allow after seeing Japeth have improve a lot in the past conference.

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Quote from: Golftech on February 08, 2020, 12:19:50 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on February 08, 2020, 08:36:42 AM

~snip~

It's possible that it's part of the plan, SMB management are aiming for CStand being transferred to GSM with this move from Greg chance
to need big man to replace him gives high chance for CStand. It's interesting if after this break some big news about this rumor transferred
will materialized.

I just realized now that how can the GSM management trade a player who's no longer in contract with them

. It they want Cstand to be a part of Ginebra then who will they trade? I guess this move by Greg Slaughter is personal. The trade rumors is been there for a long time and i think he doesn't want to be traded so he made the first move to complicate things.

But whatever his decision, let's respect that.

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I am seeing the different, maybe he was taking a break for honest reasons, IMO, he hasn't been as effective with the GSM team anymore, people does not expect him to dominate anymore, instead, when he is on the floor, their opponent likes to attack him because he is slow and sometimes getting out rebounded by smaller players, what I see when he play is that he isn't aggressive so his move can easily be predicted.

Without him in the line up this coming conference I think is a good sign for the GSM to be a better team in the All Filipino cup.

With the C stand Rumor, I don't want to speculate for now as I am not a fan of a big company manipulating the NBA to make their teams better while making the other teams worser.

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Honestly, this is the first time I saw a star player taking a break in basketball, usually they like to play to entertain the fans to enjoy a great salary.
I can tell know that Basketball is not really Greg's passion or maybe he was influence by the management for their underground plans? Hopefully we are all wrong here as the timing could really draw some doubt.

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