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Quote from: mirakal on January 14, 2020, 09:42:45 AM

Meralco will try to fight even without Almazan, they were able to compete in the last PBA finals when he was not acquired by Meralco yet and IIRC, they have REYNEL HUGNATAN that time but I don't know if at his age now, he can still play with decent output, I haven't seem him play in the last 3 games.

Of course they will try to win this one. Meralco will be on a mission this game 4 and with their current situation where they lack the inside presence they should double their effort for outside shots and defend the perimeter.

Trying is not enough, they have to win this one, otherwise they'll face a do or die next game.
If the last game went under, I believe same thing will happen here, I will try to bet on the under in pregame and will do live betting for spread.

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Basir Amer will be a key factor for this game if they want to win.

he should be given more minutes, even though he is a liability in defense.

Though he's low on defense but he's a streaky shooter and his offense will complement on his defense. I am not looking for him to defend but his offense is more vitanl than that.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on January 14, 2020, 07:01:58 PM

Quote from: mirakal on January 14, 2020, 09:42:45 AM

Meralco will try to fight even without Almazan, they were able to compete in the last PBA finals when he was not acquired by Meralco yet and IIRC, they have REYNEL HUGNATAN that time but I don't know if at his age now, he can still play with decent output, I haven't seem him play in the last 3 games.

Of course they will try to win this one. Meralco will be on a mission this game 4 and with their current situation where they lack the inside presence they should double their effort for outside shots and defend the perimeter.

Trying is not enough, they have to win this one, otherwise they'll face a do or die next game.
If the last game went under, I believe same thing will happen here, I will try to bet on the under in pregame and will do live betting for spread.

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Basir Amer will be a key factor for this game if they want to win.

he should be given more minutes, even though he is a liability in defense.

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Quote from: mirakal on January 14, 2020, 09:42:45 AM

Meralco will try to fight even without Almazan, they were able to compete in the last PBA finals when he was not acquired by Meralco yet and IIRC, they have REYNEL HUGNATAN that time but I don't know if at his age now, he can still play with decent output, I haven't seem him play in the last 3 games.

Of course they will try to win this one. Meralco will be on a mission this game 4 and with their current situation where they lack the inside presence they should double their effort for outside shots and defend the perimeter. Basir Amer will be a key factor for this game if they want to win.

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Quote from: mirakal on January 14, 2020, 06:05:47 PM

Get them when they will be +5 soon, or get an ML if it offers x3.00, that way the return is quite profitable if it wins.
Meralco were able to play competitive basketball in the 1st quarter, 2nd quarter, and 4th quarter, so it seemed they could be fine without Almazan and by now, they should be revising their strategy already to try to even the series.

Meralco will be fine without Almazan only if their Game 1 performance will not repeat wherein only 3 players managed to step up for the Bolts. On Game 2, Meralco did lots of mistakes that almost put them on near loss but good thing they won. They allow Ginebra to make a big rally on that game. And here in Game 3, there are some inconsistencies in Meralco's play and others are not stepping up.

Meralco is a strong team. They just need some push for their bench and local players.

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Quote from: Finestream on January 14, 2020, 05:47:32 PM

I might hit the Meralco ML here because I want to consider something that in my mind right now.

Get them when they will be +5 soon, or get an ML if it offers x3.00, that way the return is quite profitable if it wins.
Meralco were able to play competitive basketball in the 1st quarter, 2nd quarter, and 4th quarter, so it seemed they could be fine without Almazan and by now, they should be revising their strategy already to try to even the series.

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Quote from: mirakal on January 14, 2020, 09:42:45 AM

Meralco will try to fight even without Almazan, they were able to compete in the last PBA finals when he was not acquired by Meralco yet and IIRC, they have REYNEL HUGNATAN that time but I don't know if at his age now, he can still play with decent output, I haven't seem him play in the last 3 games.

Yup, they will be still competitive even without Almazan, other bigs just need to step up. Faundo is doing well so i expect him to play lot of minutes to compensate the absence of Almazan. The Bolts also needed to hit their 3's like in game 2 to make game 4 a close game. Ginebra is not a low post team like SMB so even without Almazan, they can still win.

Line is out already and as expected, Ginebra is the favorite here but the point spread is not that high.

Ginebra 1.56 Meralco 2.34

I will wait maybe 30 minutes before the game start and let's see how the line would move.
Currently it's -3.5 Ginebra but I am expecting that it will rise further to -5 or even more as bettors would think Ginebra would again win here, if the line will rise then we can get a good + points but if not, I might hit the Meralco ML here because I want to consider something that in my mind right now.

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Quote from: mirakal on January 14, 2020, 09:42:45 AM

Meralco will try to fight even without Almazan, they were able to compete in the last PBA finals when he was not acquired by Meralco yet and IIRC, they have REYNEL HUGNATAN that time but I don't know if at his age now, he can still play with decent output, I haven't seem him play in the last 3 games.

Yup, they will be still competitive even without Almazan, other bigs just need to step up. Faundo is doing well so i expect him to play lot of minutes to compensate the absence of Almazan. The Bolts also needed to hit their 3's like in game 2 to make game 4 a close game. Ginebra is not a low post team like SMB so even without Almazan, they can still win.

Line is out already and as expected, Ginebra is the favorite here but the point spread is not that high.

Ginebra 1.56 Meralco 2.34

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Quote from: mirakal on January 14, 2020, 09:42:45 AM

Meralco will try to fight even without Almazan, they were able to compete in the last PBA finals when he was not acquired by Meralco yet and IIRC, they have REYNEL HUGNATAN that time but I don't know if at his age now, he can still play with decent output, I haven't seem him play in the last 3 games.

they have no choice but to do everything they can to win the battle because it seems that almazan will not be playing the next championship games.

though this will be a tough games for them as Ginkings with Japet is really a bullish team and dominating the end season.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on January 13, 2020, 08:06:35 PM

What do you think everyone? Almazan can make to game 4 and let the Meralco Bolts ties the series?

As I said from my previous statement here I still doubt Raymond to come back with the next game and even if he came back I think coach Black will force him to play as it was when he was able.

Quote from: mirakal on January 14, 2020, 09:42:45 AM

they have REYNEL HUGNATAN that time but I don't know if at his age now, he can still play with decent output, I haven't seem him play in the last 3 games.

It's him that I wanted to see on the last game 3 but he hasn't played on that game was he there all the time on the bench? AFAIK he's just the same height with Hodge but with the defense, he is reliable as being tough on boards and on the post.

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Quote from: jakelyson on January 13, 2020, 05:21:41 AM

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I would love to see a game 7 but without Almazan, let's accept that things will be hard for Meralco, yes they have a run last night but they can't still win.
They need to tie the series in game 4 if they want to have a chance but the way I see it, Ginebra will dominate the paint as Meralco lacks big guys.

I will take a really bad game for Ginebra for Meralco to win. The big men of Ginebra will dominate the paint without Almazan guarding it. A really bad game, some help from the refs, a technical here and there are what the Bolts need to at least get a win.

If one Player will not going to play it's still okay, but mostly if theplayers who can't play or not in the game like if he is very good in basketball the low chance for the team to win. But even without Almazan their team still win if they have team work because that is the key for the team to win. Let's see what team gonna win this year 2020 PBA teas have a lot of very good team and best player and wjat ever who wins I will idolize them in the fields of the basketball in the Phippines.

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Meralco will try to fight even without Almazan, they were able to compete in the last PBA finals when he was not acquired by Meralco yet and IIRC, they have REYNEL HUGNATAN that time but I don't know if at his age now, he can still play with decent output, I haven't seem him play in the last 3 games.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on January 13, 2020, 08:06:35 PM

Said by their own coach: Norman Black from this article : Almazan's status day to day
But he still positive for Raymond Almazan recovery, we have 1 day more.

What do you think everyone? Almazan can make to game 4 and let the Meralco Bolts ties the series?
Japhet Aguilar is dominating without Raymond Almazan a 6"8 footer center, even Cliff Hodge can't controll it.

Cliff hodge is only 6′ 4″, he cannot defend a 6′ 9″ guy which is so athletic, so no almazan in game 4, probably a struggle of the Bolts, personally, I am not expecting Almazan to play but he'll be back in the series probably game 5 as it's a do or die for them.

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Said by their own coach: Norman Black from this article : Almazan's status day to day
But he still positive for Raymond Almazan recovery, we have 1 day more.

What do you think everyone? Almazan can make to game 4 and let the Meralco Bolts ties the series?
Japhet Aguilar is dominating without Raymond Almazan a 6"8 footer center, even Cliff Hodge can't controll it.

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2 days is too early for him to come back I think. I mean it's a sprained knee and I believe it would take some time to recover. Anyways, game four would be for meralco eventhough no Almazan playing for them. No reason for them to win but I feel like they will since I don't trust the system of the PBA and giving game 4 to meralco will insure game six which would be held in a bigger stages which would give bigger revenue for both the team and the league itself.

Yeah it's too early so possibly no almazan in game 4 and if Meralco will lose, it's still not the end of the series because Ginebra needs to win one more game to win the championship series.

I am thinking of a possible series format..

Gins, meralco, gins, gins, meralco, meralco, GINS/MERALCO( there's a game 7) Grin

Gins, meralco, gins, meralco, gins, gins.(no more game 7). This is the way I foresee this series will end. Gins will only give 1 game for meralco after game 3 and will win all the way to game 6 to seal the game.

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Quote from: jakelyson on January 13, 2020, 05:21:41 AM

Quote from: Finestream on January 13, 2020, 05:00:52 AM

I would love to see a game 7 but without Almazan, let's accept that things will be hard for Meralco, yes they have a run last night but they can't still win.
They need to tie the series in game 4 if they want to have a chance but the way I see it, Ginebra will dominate the paint as Meralco lacks big guys.

I will take a really bad game for Ginebra for Meralco to win. The big men of Ginebra will dominate the paint without Almazan guarding it. A really bad game, some help from the refs, a technical here and there are what the Bolts need to at least get a win.

Almazan is a big loss but meralco still have players who can also bring the game to a good competitions, it will be tough but with efforts coming from Durham and the rest of the players, they will be able to win who knows maybe ginebra take a bad night and create wrong plays. We don't know what will be the fate of this series and the ball still round,

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Quote from: Finestream on January 13, 2020, 05:00:52 AM

I would love to see a game 7 but without Almazan, let's accept that things will be hard for Meralco, yes they have a run last night but they can't still win.
They need to tie the series in game 4 if they want to have a chance but the way I see it, Ginebra will dominate the paint as Meralco lacks big guys.

I will take a really bad game for Ginebra for Meralco to win. The big men of Ginebra will dominate the paint without Almazan guarding it. A really bad game, some help from the refs, a technical here and there are what the Bolts need to at least get a win.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on January 13, 2020, 04:35:48 AM

2 days is too early for him to come back I think. I mean it's a sprained knee and I believe it would take some time to recover. Anyways, game four would be for meralco eventhough no Almazan playing for them. No reason for them to win but I feel like they will since I don't trust the system of the PBA and giving game 4 to meralco will insure game six which would be held in a bigger stages which would give bigger revenue for both the team and the league itself.

Yeah it's too early so possibly no almazan in game 4 and if Meralco will lose, it's still not the end of the series because Ginebra needs to win one more game to win the championship series.

I am thinking of a possible series format..

Gins, meralco, gins, gins, meralco, meralco, GINS/MERALCO( there's a game 7) Grin

I would love to see a game 7 but without Almazan, let's accept that things will be hard for Meralco, yes they have a run last night but they can't still win.
They need to tie the series in game 4 if they want to have a chance but the way I see it, Ginebra will dominate the paint as Meralco lacks big guys.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on January 13, 2020, 04:35:48 AM

2 days is too early for him to come back I think. I mean it's a sprained knee and I believe it would take some time to recover. Anyways, game four would be for meralco eventhough no Almazan playing for them. No reason for them to win but I feel like they will since I don't trust the system of the PBA and giving game 4 to meralco will insure game six which would be held in a bigger stages which would give bigger revenue for both the team and the league itself.

Yeah it's too early so possibly no almazan in game 4 and if Meralco will lose, it's still not the end of the series because Ginebra needs to win one more game to win the championship series.

I am thinking of a possible series format..

Gins, meralco, gins, gins, meralco, meralco, GINS/MERALCO( there's a game 7) Grin

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Quote from: Finestream on January 12, 2020, 06:03:13 PM

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Missing Almazan is really a big factor in Meralco's game.

I thought so too. Almazan could just have change the game if he was not injured ( it was not intentional though). The lack of inside presence is what the ginkings took advantage of and Japeth Aguilar contributing on defense with 7 blocks is just insane. I don't know why but Aguilar is showing some good plays here in game 3.

Things not looking good for Meralco without Almazan, update about him.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/basketball/pba/249124-black-meralco-keeping-fingers-crossed-almazan-injury
"I'll try to be as positive as possible and hopefully he'll be okay," Black said.

Black, though, was quick to acknowledge that Almazan may also be sidelined for the rest of the best-of-seven affair, which the Gin Kings lead 2-1.

"[F]rom being a player myself, having a swollen knee in the middle of a championship series is not something you can just bounce back from that easily," said Black.

There's still 2 days for him to recover so let's hope he can come back to play again.

2 days is too early for him to come back I think. I mean it's a sprained knee and I believe it would take some time to recover. Anyways, game four would be for meralco eventhough no Almazan playing for them. No reason for them to win but I feel like they will since I don't trust the system of the PBA and giving game 4 to meralco will insure game six which would be held in a bigger stages which would give bigger revenue for both the team and the league itself.

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seems like both are doing their best to get close in scoring,the POints are very tight from the start,this is one interesting game and as the first quarter we have 21points for Bolts and 24points for Ginebra .

no wonder that this will be more tighter as we heading to 2nd-4th quarter.

i am for Bolts on this one so lets see who wins.

edit: we are now tied at 29 points each as we head to 8 minutes in the 2nd quarter.

I like to see them playing in a close game, it's sunday and it will entertain the fans more.
I am just watching the game live in my TV but I can say that this game is really fun,... both teams are scoring pretty well. Now tied at 35 points.

that is what i am expecting as well kabayan,from first quarter to second things are very tight and the game seems to be more entertaining.

not until 3rd quarter comes and from the very beginning GinKings dominates the game and scoring one after another shooting and insides.

sad to say but i stopped watching when the 5 minutes mark in 3rd comes.

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