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January 29, 2024, 08:50:35 AM
Maybe game 5 we still have Phoenix +5.5.

They didn't change the opening line, it's still +7.5. I'm sure this will move down in the coming days as sure bettors will be happy to bet on the +7.5 after they beat Magnolia by double digits.  Watch out for the line movement but it's not wise to go against the trend,  the last 3 games belong to the Phoenix, you should bet on the handicap and moneyline.

Well and good. This is quite puzzling but let's take the Phoenix here, bookies can't fool us here unless they are up something like a cooking show. The last 3 games, we've seen a greater competition between this team, players gets injured and they still continue to play, like Calvin Abueva, it was reported that he has a nasal fracture and yet he is still playing and has not wearing a mask as according to him it will affect his vision, so he really wants to contribute.

If there's a game 5, then this should be the biggest or unexpected semi finals in the last few seasons as honestly and which I believe, people were expecting a sweep, instead, it has become an interesting series to watch.
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January 29, 2024, 08:24:48 AM
Maybe game 5 we still have Phoenix +5.5.

They didn't change the opening line, it's still +7.5. I'm sure this will move down in the coming days as sure bettors will be happy to bet on the +7.5 after they beat Magnolia by double digits.  Watch out for the line movement but it's not wise to go against the trend,  the last 3 games belong to the Phoenix, you should bet on the handicap and moneyline.

If there's no adjustments that will happen with Magnolias game play maybe the trend will continue but knowing how good the system of Magnolia I have that impression that they will put this to an end, expecting domination from Magnolia this coming game 4 from both defense and offense, as they should not give SMB long time to rest while they are coming to finals with short rest.

Though just like what we pinoy always said "bilog and bola" the fate of the bettors are always in the hands of those players and coaching staff that will control the tempo of the game.

The problem with Magnolia is they are not good in making in game adjustments. It's on the last two games where they start strong, take a big lead going to the 2nd half but the Phoenix Fuel Masters makes an adjustment that Magnolia can't make. In terms of strenght, they are now 50/50 as Phoenix were able to match the physicality of Magnolia, well that's there style but Magnolia gave a does of their own medicine.

I can't wait to see the game 4, people say Magnolia will end the young Phoenix, but I say, no, not yet, we need to see a game 5 or do or die game. If the series will extend to 5, SMB will be greatly benefited here as they will go in the Finals well rested, well that's the benefit of ending the series early.
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January 29, 2024, 08:12:24 AM
Maybe game 5 we still have Phoenix +5.5.

They didn't change the opening line, it's still +7.5. I'm sure this will move down in the coming days as sure bettors will be happy to bet on the +7.5 after they beat Magnolia by double digits.  Watch out for the line movement but it's not wise to go against the trend,  the last 3 games belong to the Phoenix, you should bet on the handicap and moneyline.

If there's no adjustments that will happen with Magnolias game play maybe the trend will continue but knowing how good the system of Magnolia I have that impression that they will put this to an end, expecting domination from Magnolia this coming game 4 from both defense and offense, as they should not give SMB long time to rest while they are coming to finals with short rest.

Though just like what we pinoy always said "bilog and bola" the fate of the bettors are always in the hands of those players and coaching staff that will control the tempo of the game.
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January 29, 2024, 07:35:25 AM
Maybe game 5 we still have Phoenix +5.5.

They didn't change the opening line, it's still +7.5. I'm sure this will move down in the coming days as sure bettors will be happy to bet on the +7.5 after they beat Magnolia by double digits.  Watch out for the line movement but it's not wise to go against the trend,  the last 3 games belong to the Phoenix, you should bet on the handicap and moneyline.
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January 29, 2024, 02:35:24 AM
What would be the betting point spread for game 4 of Magnolia vs Phoenix? It doesn't look good for Magnolia on their last game, they seemed being figured out how to play in the 2nd half after being down big. Their confidence drop and their outside shooting cold off. Game 4 is still a do or die game for Phoenix, I expect that they'll play with the same energy to take a very important game. If Paul Lee are limited, their locals aren't producing too, and although they have big men but they could not dominate the paint, Williams was really tough although reportedly not 100% on that game, how much more if he was 100%.

Also, for Tyler Bhey, there was a information I heard from the commentators that his hand has a bit of an injury, but he played through it. so both import not 100%, that's a fair game, but the advantage was on Williams since he doesn't shoot the ball a lot, he just played some defense on the paint and grab the rebounds (offensive and defensive).

Maybe game 5 we still have Phoenix +5.5.
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January 29, 2024, 02:16:02 AM
The first game is over and the Phoenix Fuel Masters have avoided getting eliminated today. They came back from a huge deficit with a good run in the 2nd half. At some point, they are down 20 points but their strong come back in the 3rd quarter changes the momentum in their favor until the end of the game.

Final score 103-85... Huge win, who would expect they'll beat the Magnolia by 18 points.  This team does fight in every game they have, they might win game 4 and make this series very interesting. Everyone was contributing but it was Jazul's  3 straight 3 point shots IIRC that gave the team a good lead and Magnolia were not able to come back anymore. Magnolia always play phyisical, but tonight, Phoenix matches it and even outdone them on that area.

That kind of rally is what they need to continue extending their chance though I can't deny that I'm bias in terms of siding myself with Magnolia and I think they still have the huge edge even they lose the game today, maybe not the night for them as they allow the Fuelmaster to dominate them both in offense and defense.

It will change the tempo especially if Fuelmaster will manage to duplicate the same system to win another game and push this series to a do-or-die game.
It's gonna be a fun series for sure. Winning game 4 will make it a do or die game in 5. I like the Phoenix though but I feel they don't stand a chance against the SMB who swept the defending champion (if I'm not mistaken). Phoenix have to prove though because if they win the next 2 games, that means they are deserving the face the SMB super team.
We saw what the Phoenix can do, they are down 21 points but still able to come back and win double digit. This is a young but a very dangerous team, they don't rely so much on their import as the locals are also very confident. In terms of quickness and defense, they also have it, Tuffin for example is a good player and he is playing with the kind of physically being challenge on him. So, yes, expect this one to be an interesting seris.

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Next game will be SMB vs Ginebra, do or die for Ginebra.. Can their motto never say die could save them?

They need to win, and for my own analysis, PBA needs to push that win to keep the fans hahaha.. but, we never know what will be the outcome and how coach Tim will find way to extend this series, SMB's playing at their best so coach Tim need to find that missing link to re-organize his troops, they need this game badly to avoid getting swept in this semi-final match.

Unfortunately they can't match the SMB's offense who could go inside and outside, it was the import match up thought, SMB's import is just too good.

The series is over for them. I thought it's a more exciting series than the other one, but it turns out SMB had dominated them in all 3 games. SMB is full of talents, starting from their import down to the locals, and no team could beat them, unless there's a "mekus2" that will happen.
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January 29, 2024, 12:38:52 AM
The first game is over and the Phoenix Fuel Masters have avoided getting eliminated today. They came back from a huge deficit with a good run in the 2nd half. At some point, they are down 20 points but their strong come back in the 3rd quarter changes the momentum in their favor until the end of the game.

Final score 103-85... Huge win, who would expect they'll beat the Magnolia by 18 points.  This team does fight in every game they have, they might win game 4 and make this series very interesting. Everyone was contributing but it was Jazul's  3 straight 3 point shots IIRC that gave the team a good lead and Magnolia were not able to come back anymore. Magnolia always play phyisical, but tonight, Phoenix matches it and even outdone them on that area.

That kind of rally is what they need to continue extending their chance though I can't deny that I'm bias in terms of siding myself with Magnolia and I think they still have the huge edge even they lose the game today, maybe not the night for them as they allow the Fuelmaster to dominate them both in offense and defense.

It will change the tempo especially if Fuelmaster will manage to duplicate the same system to win another game and push this series to a do-or-die game.
It's gonna be a fun series for sure. Winning game 4 will make it a do or die game in 5. I like the Phoenix though but I feel they don't stand a chance against the SMB who swept the defending champion (if I'm not mistaken). Phoenix have to prove though because if they win the next 2 games, that means they are deserving the face the SMB super team.

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Next game will be SMB vs Ginebra, do or die for Ginebra.. Can their motto never say die could save them?

They need to win, and for my own analysis, PBA needs to push that win to keep the fans hahaha.. but, we never know what will be the outcome and how coach Tim will find way to extend this series, SMB's playing at their best so coach Tim need to find that missing link to re-organize his troops, they need this game badly to avoid getting swept in this semi-final match.

Unfortunately they can't match the SMB's offense who could go inside and outside, it was the import match up thought, SMB's import is just too good.
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January 28, 2024, 06:13:45 PM
]I'm rooting for Ginebra to win this game 3 so that this series will be extended but as of now, the Beermen is leading 8 points, hope the Kings will come back and win this game just like what Phoenix did in the first game.

It looks good until Malonzo got injured, and it looks like he is not coming back anymore. But there's still time though, so good luck with your bet mate.
They are in the last quarter now, they need win that quarter in order to extend the series.

San Miguel just won this series and will proceed to the finals. It's something that I expected but not Ginebra never posting a single point in the run. I also rooted for Ginebra but man, their defense is so bad and their rotations are just read by SMB like a book. 94-91 is as close as it gets, but I felt like Ginebra could have snatched the win there if they mixed things up and played more offensively.

SMB's import plus JMF with the whole squad this team is really a tough team to beat same with you I'm also in the impression that Gin kings will not just let SMB to sweep them out in this semis considering that they are the defending Champ and with also the powerhouse squad, but it's simply showed out that SMB's desire to win is more dominant.

Congrats to all those who take the risk betting for SMB those who did not hesitate knowing that sister  company can ruined the bookies odds,  hehehe 😉
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January 28, 2024, 08:42:59 AM
]I'm rooting for Ginebra to win this game 3 so that this series will be extended but as of now, the Beermen is leading 8 points, hope the Kings will come back and win this game just like what Phoenix did in the first game.

It looks good until Malonzo got injured, and it looks like he is not coming back anymore. But there's still time though, so good luck with your bet mate.
They are in the last quarter now, they need win that quarter in order to extend the series.

San Miguel just won this series and will proceed to the finals. It's something that I expected but not Ginebra never posting a single point in the run. I also rooted for Ginebra but man, their defense is so bad and their rotations are just read by SMB like a book. 94-91 is as close as it gets, but I felt like Ginebra could have snatched the win there if they mixed things up and played more offensively.

Ginebra could not find their offense either from outside and inside. They have a good shooter which is Malonzo, but he was injured so they are only very limited trying to produce inside but there's JMF and the SMB's import who are willing to make the attacker's job so tough. I thought Ginebra would be able to use their advantage in the 4th when SMB was in early foul trouble but they just couldn't make a shot.

Now, with SMB going to the finals, it looks like they'll win the championship again this time, and their dominance will be back. And now, we know that Ginebra aren't a championship team without Justin Brownlee.
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January 28, 2024, 08:06:31 AM
]I'm rooting for Ginebra to win this game 3 so that this series will be extended but as of now, the Beermen is leading 8 points, hope the Kings will come back and win this game just like what Phoenix did in the first game.

It looks good until Malonzo got injured, and it looks like he is not coming back anymore. But there's still time though, so good luck with your bet mate.
They are in the last quarter now, they need win that quarter in order to extend the series.

San Miguel just won this series and will proceed to the finals. It's something that I expected but not Ginebra never posting a single point in the run. I also rooted for Ginebra but man, their defense is so bad and their rotations are just read by SMB like a book. 94-91 is as close as it gets, but I felt like Ginebra could have snatched the win there if they mixed things up and played more offensively.
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January 28, 2024, 07:10:56 AM
The first game is over and the Phoenix Fuel Masters have avoided getting eliminated today. They came back from a huge deficit with a good run in the 2nd half. At some point, they are down 20 points but their strong come back in the 3rd quarter changes the momentum in their favor until the end of the game.

Final score 103-85... Huge win, who would expect they'll beat the Magnolia by 18 points.  This team does fight in every game they have, they might win game 4 and make this series very interesting. Everyone was contributing but it was Jazul's  3 straight 3 point shots IIRC that gave the team a good lead and Magnolia were not able to come back anymore. Magnolia always play phyisical, but tonight, Phoenix matches it and even outdone them on that area.

Lost my bet on that first game, I thought that was already in the bag for Magnolia when they led by 21 big points in the first half but kudos to Phoenix who didn't easily give up and climbed up to beat the Hotshots by 18 points.


The same thing happen in game 2, they were leading comfortably and then they allow the Phoenix to come back, good thing they survive but for bettors, we lose our bet as they didn't cover. Non of the last 3 games where Magnolia bettors cashed, sad but true.

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I'm rooting for Ginebra to win this game 3 so that this series will be extended but as of now, the Beermen is leading 8 points, hope the Kings will come back and win this game just like what Phoenix did in the first game.

It looks good until Malonzo got injured, and it looks like he is not coming back anymore. But there's still time though, so good luck with your bet mate.
They are in the last quarter now, they need win that quarter in order to extend the series.
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January 28, 2024, 06:02:42 AM
The first game is over and the Phoenix Fuel Masters have avoided getting eliminated today. They came back from a huge deficit with a good run in the 2nd half. At some point, they are down 20 points but their strong come back in the 3rd quarter changes the momentum in their favor until the end of the game.

Final score 103-85... Huge win, who would expect they'll beat the Magnolia by 18 points.  This team does fight in every game they have, they might win game 4 and make this series very interesting. Everyone was contributing but it was Jazul's  3 straight 3 point shots IIRC that gave the team a good lead and Magnolia were not able to come back anymore. Magnolia always play phyisical, but tonight, Phoenix matches it and even outdone them on that area.

Lost my bet on that first game, I thought that was already in the bag for Magnolia when they led by 21 big points in the first half but kudos to Phoenix who didn't easily give up and climbed up to beat the Hotshots by 18 points.

I'm rooting for Ginebra to win this game 3 so that this series will be extended but as of now, the Beermen is leading 8 points, hope the Kings will come back and win this game just like what Phoenix did in the first game.
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January 28, 2024, 05:54:40 AM
The first game is over and the Phoenix Fuel Masters have avoided getting eliminated today. They came back from a huge deficit with a good run in the 2nd half. At some point, they are down 20 points but their strong come back in the 3rd quarter changes the momentum in their favor until the end of the game.

Final score 103-85... Huge win, who would expect they'll beat the Magnolia by 18 points.  This team does fight in every game they have, they might win game 4 and make this series very interesting. Everyone was contributing but it was Jazul's  3 straight 3 point shots IIRC that gave the team a good lead and Magnolia were not able to come back anymore. Magnolia always play phyisical, but tonight, Phoenix matches it and even outdone them on that area.

That kind of rally is what they need to continue extending their chance though I can't deny that I'm bias in terms of siding myself with Magnolia and I think they still have the huge edge even they lose the game today, maybe not the night for them as they allow the Fuelmaster to dominate them both in offense and defense.

It will change the tempo especially if Fuelmaster will manage to duplicate the same system to win another game and push this series to a do-or-die game.
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Next game will be SMB vs Ginebra, do or die for Ginebra.. Can their motto never say die could save them?

They need to win, and for my own analysis, PBA needs to push that win to keep the fans hahaha.. but, we never know what will be the outcome and how coach Tim will find way to extend this series, SMB's playing at their best so coach Tim need to find that missing link to re-organize his troops, they need this game badly to avoid getting swept in this semi-final match.


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January 28, 2024, 05:02:49 AM
The first game is over and the Phoenix Fuel Masters have avoided getting eliminated today. They came back from a huge deficit with a good run in the 2nd half. At some point, they are down 20 points but their strong come back in the 3rd quarter changes the momentum in their favor until the end of the game.

Final score 103-85... Huge win, who would expect they'll beat the Magnolia by 18 points.  This team does fight in every game they have, they might win game 4 and make this series very interesting. Everyone was contributing but it was Jazul's  3 straight 3 point shots IIRC that gave the team a good lead and Magnolia were not able to come back anymore. Magnolia always play phyisical, but tonight, Phoenix matches it and even outdone them on that area.

Next game will be SMB vs Ginebra, do or die for Ginebra.. Can their motto never say die could save them?
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January 27, 2024, 09:05:20 AM
I don't see a chance Phoenix will even win one game. however, if we are betting, we have to be careful as they have been covering the handicap on the last 2 games.

We never know, they always make it close but collapse in the 4th quarter. Maybe in their do or die game this Sunday, they will get a win and Ginebra as well. Schedule was set well, it looks like they already planned it well because Ginebra is the last game which starts at 6:30 PM, and you know, the Ginebra Fanatics will likely be present to support their team in this situation.

Phoenix and Ginebra wins, series will be extended, but if there's only one team that will win, i'm sure it will be Ginebra.

It would be shameful if Coach Tim Cone will be swept. It will create a rumors that he was only good because of Brownlee, without their best import they will not be able to return to the Finals again. SMB is really a strong team, even their 2nd unit looks like a starting unit in the other teams, and that is even without Terrence Romeo playing. Import vs Import, looks like SMB has an edge, and getting that confidence he needed in game 2 makes him more confident in game 3 which is a do or die game of Ginebra.

The first game was close but the 2nd game wasn't in the 4th quarter as it ended on a SMB win by double digit.
That's on the import. he doesn't have a good outside shooting unlike Brownlee. And compared to the locals of SMB, you can see how good their locals are especially JMF who are very healthy now and is on his MVP level. Ginebra have two big men but only C. Stand plays at a high level, Japeth is not playing his usual game and it looks like he already past his prime. How can they stop the SMB's offense and defense when this season they signed two good defensive and offensive player which is Jeron Teng and Don Trollana, their line up is stuck with talent.


Actually Ross was still scoreless just like in game 1 but his presence on the floor is huge. Ginebra were able to limit Perez but their import was unstoppable with 38 points.


That's his value to the team, he can play defense without scoring, and due to his experience, everything looks easy for him. Anyone can criticize him that he doesn't score , but take him out in the equation and we will see SMB will struggle.

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January 27, 2024, 07:53:44 AM
I don't see a chance Phoenix will even win one game. however, if we are betting, we have to be careful as they have been covering the handicap on the last 2 games.

We never know, they always make it close but collapse in the 4th quarter. Maybe in their do or die game this Sunday, they will get a win and Ginebra as well. Schedule was set well, it looks like they already planned it well because Ginebra is the last game which starts at 6:30 PM, and you know, the Ginebra Fanatics will likely be present to support their team in this situation.

Phoenix and Ginebra wins, series will be extended, but if there's only one team that will win, i'm sure it will be Ginebra.

It would be shameful if Coach Tim Cone will be swept. It will create a rumors that he was only good because of Brownlee, without their best import they will not be able to return to the Finals again. SMB is really a strong team, even their 2nd unit looks like a starting unit in the other teams, and that is even without Terrence Romeo playing. Import vs Import, looks like SMB has an edge, and getting that confidence he needed in game 2 makes him more confident in game 3 which is a do or die game of Ginebra.

The first game was close but the 2nd game wasn't in the 4th quarter as it ended on a SMB win by double digit.

Actually Ross was still scoreless just like in game 1 but his presence on the floor is huge. Ginebra were able to limit Perez but their import was unstoppable with 38 points.
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January 27, 2024, 02:38:35 AM
I don't see a chance Phoenix will even win one game. however, if we are betting, we have to be careful as they have been covering the handicap on the last 2 games.

We never know, they always make it close but collapse in the 4th quarter. Maybe in their do or die game this Sunday, they will get a win and Ginebra as well. Schedule was set well, it looks like they already planned it well because Ginebra is the last game which starts at 6:30 PM, and you know, the Ginebra Fanatics will likely be present to support their team in this situation.

Phoenix and Ginebra wins, series will be extended, but if there's only one team that will win, i'm sure it will be Ginebra.
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January 26, 2024, 10:35:46 AM
And they loss. Tough luck for Ginebra as they struggled to stop great offense of SMB, the series is now at 2-0. This team is a never say die team, so it's not over yet since SMB still needs to win one game for Ginebra to get eliminated. Game 3 will be this Sunday, that could be the best time for the Ginebra to win since the crowd for sure will be their to support them.
That makes sense, Sunday is the day where they will likely win and I think we can confirm that on the betting odds now. Currently, Ginebra are being listead as -3.5 favorite, they haven't achieve that kind of spread in the last 2 games, the biggest they have was like -2.5 in game 2, and it doesn't move despite people are betting on Ginebra to even the series, so I have a gut feel that they will win game 3 and make the series interesting.


On the 2nd game, Magnolia beat the Phoenix Fuel masters and have already taken the lead in the series at 2-0. The outcome of the game is still a low scoring game, it's almost identical to the first game outcome as it was 82-78 now and 82-79 in the first game.

I don't see a chance Phoenix will even win one game. however, if we are betting, we have to be careful as they have been covering the handicap on the last 2 games.
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January 26, 2024, 09:36:57 AM
Same here, PBA will be able to make a good amount of money if they'll extend this series. Both teams are capable so this will be very close game but we can trust the refs to do the right thing to make this series more exciting to watch. SMB has taken the lead but it's far from over, 1-0 lead is not safe, but 2-0 is already different, and Ginebra should not allow that to happen.

Also, I don't know Tim Cone or the PBA would allow Ginebra will be swept, that's not gonna happen even in my dreams. Therefore, it's not brainer that we should bet on Ginebra in game 2, and double them in game 3 if they lose.

Ginebra -2.5 @1.84 vs SMB

^^ My bet as the Gin Kings would make some adjustment and high chance that they will win the game and cover the spread. They were just careless in game 1 that cost them the game but i think they will recover and bounce back. For bettors, that odds is so juicy considering that this game is must win situation for Ginebra.

Same bet my friend. This game so far seem to be the same as in game 1. it's now tied at 67 points and they are in the 3rd quarter. I hope Ginebra will be able to have a strong run that SMB won't be able to make it a comeback, we need this -2.5 to win so we will make a profit, a close game will make our bet at risk.

Ginebra needs to even the series, otherwise, they are not going to make it to the Finals, so these remaining minutes is very important, great play and less mistakes, that's the key.

And they loss. Tough luck for Ginebra as they struggled to stop great offense of SMB, the series is now at 2-0. This team is a never say die team, so it's not over yet since SMB still needs to win one game for Ginebra to get eliminated. Game 3 will be this Sunday, that could be the best time for the Ginebra to win since the crowd for sure will be their to support them.

On the 2nd game, Magnolia beat the Phoenix Fuel masters and have already taken the lead in the series at 2-0. The outcome of the game is still a low scoring game, it's almost identical to the first game outcome as it was 82-78 now and 82-79 in the first game.
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January 26, 2024, 04:40:00 AM
Same here, PBA will be able to make a good amount of money if they'll extend this series. Both teams are capable so this will be very close game but we can trust the refs to do the right thing to make this series more exciting to watch. SMB has taken the lead but it's far from over, 1-0 lead is not safe, but 2-0 is already different, and Ginebra should not allow that to happen.

Also, I don't know Tim Cone or the PBA would allow Ginebra will be swept, that's not gonna happen even in my dreams. Therefore, it's not brainer that we should bet on Ginebra in game 2, and double them in game 3 if they lose.

Ginebra -2.5 @1.84 vs SMB

^^ My bet as the Gin Kings would make some adjustment and high chance that they will win the game and cover the spread. They were just careless in game 1 that cost them the game but i think they will recover and bounce back. For bettors, that odds is so juicy considering that this game is must win situation for Ginebra.

Same bet my friend. This game so far seem to be the same as in game 1. it's now tied at 67 points and they are in the 3rd quarter. I hope Ginebra will be able to have a strong run that SMB won't be able to make it a comeback, we need this -2.5 to win so we will make a profit, a close game will make our bet at risk.

Ginebra needs to even the series, otherwise, they are not going to make it to the Finals, so these remaining minutes is very important, great play and less mistakes, that's the key.
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