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Quote from: Maslate on January 25, 2024, 08:00:19 AM

Same here, PBA will be able to make a good amount of money if they'll extend this series. Both teams are capable so this will be very close game but we can trust the refs to do the right thing to make this series more exciting to watch. SMB has taken the lead but it's far from over, 1-0 lead is not safe, but 2-0 is already different, and Ginebra should not allow that to happen.

Also, I don't know Tim Cone or the PBA would allow Ginebra will be swept, that's not gonna happen even in my dreams. Therefore, it's not brainer that we should bet on Ginebra in game 2, and double them in game 3 if they lose.

Ginebra -2.5 @1.84 vs SMB

^^ My bet as the Gin Kings would make some adjustment and high chance that they will win the game and cover the spread. They were just careless in game 1 that cost them the game but i think they will recover and bounce back. For bettors, that odds is so juicy considering that this game is must win situation for Ginebra.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 25, 2024, 06:51:25 AM

Quote from: Finestream on January 25, 2024, 06:08:21 AM

As what the announcers mentioned, game 1 winner has a higher chance to win the series. I could not remember the percentage but if the trend persist, it will be SMB which will be advancing in the Finals.

But trend does are not followed all the time. I think we will see some exemption this time. Besides, that lose from Ginebra was not really a lose that they can't beat SMB, it was a tough game a close one but SMB ended up lucky in the end. I'd call it lucky because they didn't Ginebra, so game two should be Ginebra "ALL IN", if we want to make quick buck.

I have a feeling that this series will reach to game 5.

Same here, PBA will be able to make a good amount of money if they'll extend this series. Both teams are capable so this will be very close game but we can trust the refs to do the right thing to make this series more exciting to watch. SMB has taken the lead but it's far from over, 1-0 lead is not safe, but 2-0 is already different, and Ginebra should not allow that to happen.

Also, I don't know Tim Cone or the PBA would allow Ginebra will be swept, that's not gonna happen even in my dreams. Therefore, it's not brainer that we should bet on Ginebra in game 2, and double them in game 3 if they lose.

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Quote from: Finestream on January 25, 2024, 06:08:21 AM

Ginebra needs to do a great job on CJ Perez as the was the one who contributes big for SMB, he needs to be limited.

For sure we will see that kind of adjustment in game 2. They didn't start strong, so this time they'll have two as they know how capable SMB is.

They might succeed in limiting Perez, but what if Romeol will play in game 2? He didn't play in game 1 although he was with the team as he isn't 100% yet, their coach would not risk him but when it matters most, for sure he'll play and contribute.

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Quote from: Finestream on January 25, 2024, 06:08:21 AM

As what the announcers mentioned, game 1 winner has a higher chance to win the series. I could not remember the percentage but if the trend persist, it will be SMB which will be advancing in the Finals.

But trend does are not followed all the time. I think we will see some exemption this time. Besides, that lose from Ginebra was not really a lose that they can't beat SMB, it was a tough game a close one but SMB ended up lucky in the end. I'd call it lucky because they didn't Ginebra, so game two should be Ginebra "ALL IN", if we want to make quick buck.

I have a feeling that this series will reach to game 5.

Quote from: Finestream on January 25, 2024, 06:08:21 AM

Ginebra needs to do a great job on CJ Perez as the was the one who contributes big for SMB, he needs to be limited.

For sure we will see that kind of adjustment in game 2. They didn't start strong, so this time they'll have two as they know how capable SMB is.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on January 25, 2024, 05:57:46 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on January 24, 2024, 01:35:21 PM

2nd game result, that's what we going to expect against super teams playing against each other, close game and hard to predict, SMB managed to escape and take game 1 but for sure game will be for Gin kings as coach Tim will adjust.

That was a very good game, everyone was sure happy with the way it turns out. Even me, I bet on the losing game but I'm still happen with how Ginebra played the game. I felt that they'll be able to even the series in game 2, so I'm betting on them. Now they are only -1.5, taking it early gives advantage to bettors like me.

Yeah, that's right, they flipped line because it was SMB which was the favorite in game 1 and now Ginebra is the slight favorite. Game 2 is a must win by Ginebra, otherwise, they will lose in the semi finals as it's hard to come back from a 0-2 deficit where every game it's a do or die for them.

As what the announcers mentioned, game 1 winner has a higher chance to win the series. I could not remember the percentage but if the trend persist, it will be SMB which will be advancing in the Finals.

Ginebra needs to do a great job on CJ Perez as the was the one who contributes big for SMB, he needs to be limited.

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 24, 2024, 01:35:21 PM

Quote from: Japinat on January 24, 2024, 09:30:35 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on January 24, 2024, 04:25:14 AM

Per Bookie live betting, Magnolia is still favored but only a slight favorite as from -8.5, they are down to -4.5 now.

Magnolia won but it was a very close game. I wonder what would be the handicap in the next game. It seems like Phoenix is also a tough team, they were able to keep it close but their inexperience was their disadvantage in closing a game. It's 1-0 now, but this is a best of 5 series, so it's still too early to conclude.

Next game, it might still be the Phoenix covering the handicap, or they might upset the Magnolia to tie the series.

About the 2nd game, it was a nail - biter game. It's a game of run but in the end it was only a 2 points win by the SMB. CZ Perez was the best player but JMF has a huge contribution that game, his offensive rebound help them secure a win.

I like the way both games ends up, those who place on the handicap manage to win for sure, especially those early birds who take the risk betting for Phoenix's handicap, they manage to cover it as they really played well though just like you mentioned they are still young and inexperienced competing against the team who already established their communication and better plays for executions.

Way too easy for the Phoenix. they always even win the game, they just fell short in the end. they go toe to toe from the first to the 3rd quarter, but they collapse a bit in the 4th. For sure adjustments will be made in the 2nd game and I feel like Phoenix will still be able to cover the spread.

Quote from: Fredomago on January 24, 2024, 01:35:21 PM

2nd game result, that's what we going to expect against super teams playing against each other, close game and hard to predict, SMB managed to escape and take game 1 but for sure game will be for Gin kings as coach Tim will adjust.

That was a very good game, everyone was sure happy with the way it turns out. Even me, I bet on the losing game but I'm still happen with how Ginebra played the game. I felt that they'll be able to even the series in game 2, so I'm betting on them. Now they are only -1.5, taking it early gives advantage to bettors like me.

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Quote from: Japinat on January 24, 2024, 09:30:35 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on January 24, 2024, 04:25:14 AM

Per Bookie live betting, Magnolia is still favored but only a slight favorite as from -8.5, they are down to -4.5 now.

Magnolia won but it was a very close game. I wonder what would be the handicap in the next game. It seems like Phoenix is also a tough team, they were able to keep it close but their inexperience was their disadvantage in closing a game. It's 1-0 now, but this is a best of 5 series, so it's still too early to conclude.

Next game, it might still be the Phoenix covering the handicap, or they might upset the Magnolia to tie the series.

About the 2nd game, it was a nail - biter game. It's a game of run but in the end it was only a 2 points win by the SMB. CZ Perez was the best player but JMF has a huge contribution that game, his offensive rebound help them secure a win.

I like the way both games ends up, those who place on the handicap manage to win for sure, especially those early birds who take the risk betting for Phoenix's handicap, they manage to cover it as they really played well though just like you mentioned they are still young and inexperienced competing against the team who already established their communication and better plays for executions.

2nd game result, that's what we going to expect against super teams playing against each other, close game and hard to predict, SMB managed to escape and take game 1 but for sure game will be for Gin kings as coach Tim will adjust.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 24, 2024, 03:25:09 AM

Quote from: blockman on January 23, 2024, 01:49:31 PM

It's basically three SMB companies on the semi finals and it is going to surprise a lot of fans if Fuel Masters will take this championship.

That will be a big surprise if it will happen. This young team going to the finals and beat either SMB or Ginebra, that's a cinderalla story. Right now, they aren't even expected to win in game 1 as the handicap is so high, it opened with +9.5 and it close to +8.5. I'm not sure if Fuel Masters will be able to make it a close game but hopefully they will so we will be able to witness an entertaining match.

Well, the game 1 has already ended and Magnolia has won it. But it's going to be a surprise if this series will end up in favor of Fuel masters. It's just that we want to see a new team take that championship but with how strong these sister teams are, they have to deal with hard times beating them.

Quote from: Russlenat on January 24, 2024, 03:25:09 AM

What I like about this young team now is that they are complete, they have an unselfish import and they are slowing gaining some confidence which it's very much needed against tough depender team.

Only three points lead and that's thanks to their team work. I agree that this team is still young and has a lot of way to go but then, we're seeing them on the semis already and if they won't be fortunate to end this season in the finals, all they need to do is to keep on working on and they'll definitely back there again. Anyway, it's too early to talk about it as the series hasn't ended yet.

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Quote from: Distinctin on January 24, 2024, 04:25:14 AM

Per Bookie live betting, Magnolia is still favored but only a slight favorite as from -8.5, they are down to -4.5 now.

Magnolia won but it was a very close game. I wonder what would be the handicap in the next game. It seems like Phoenix is also a tough team, they were able to keep it close but their inexperience was their disadvantage in closing a game. It's 1-0 now, but this is a best of 5 series, so it's still too early to conclude.

Next game, it might still be the Phoenix covering the handicap, or they might upset the Magnolia to tie the series.

About the 2nd game, it was a nail - biter game. It's a game of run but in the end it was only a 2 points win by the SMB. CZ Perez was the best player but JMF has a huge contribution that game, his offensive rebound help them secure a win.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on January 24, 2024, 03:45:29 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on January 24, 2024, 03:25:09 AM

What I like about this young team now is that they are complete, they have an unselfish import and they are slowing gaining some confidence which it's very much needed against tough depender team.

I would say they are battle tested team. Winning against Meralco is such a huge achievement from a young team. And according to their coach, they have a silent leader which is their import, that's why they are successful now. It's a low scoring game so far, 16-18 after the first quarter, Magnolia only leading by 2 points. it's a long way to go and it seems like it might end up to be a close one and bookies might be wrong giving Phoenix a high handicap.

Very close match so far. The first half is over and Phoenix had a 3 point lead.

The score now is 41-38, and both teams are just shooting less than 40%. As to import vs import match up, Williams is still scoreless but already have 7 rebounds and 3 assists. I guess that pretty much say that he is an unselfish player because despite being scoreless, his team is leading by 3 points.

What I saw on the stat sheet is Magnolia's bad 3 point shooting, they are only 1-13. Maybe we will see some adjustment in the 2nd half, or maybe they'll focus their attack on the paint so they could score and possibly gets fouled.

Per Bookie live betting, Magnolia is still favored but only a slight favorite as from -8.5, they are down to -4.5 now.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 24, 2024, 03:25:09 AM

What I like about this young team now is that they are complete, they have an unselfish import and they are slowing gaining some confidence which it's very much needed against tough depender team.

I would say they are battle tested team. Winning against Meralco is such a huge achievement from a young team. And according to their coach, they have a silent leader which is their import, that's why they are successful now. It's a low scoring game so far, 16-18 after the first quarter, Magnolia only leading by 2 points. it's a long way to go and it seems like it might end up to be a close one and bookies might be wrong giving Phoenix a high handicap.

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Quote from: blockman on January 23, 2024, 01:49:31 PM

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Quote from: Kelvinid on January 22, 2024, 06:54:50 AM

Not sure if it's a best of 7 or best of 5, but I think Phoenix will be lucky to win a game.

It's a best of 5 series, and you can verify that on their website. https://pba.ph/
Don't forget that tomorrow will be the first game of the semi finals, we have the double header, Phoenix vs Magnolia on first game and SMB vs Ginebra on the 2nd game.

Yes, it's just a best of 5 series for both Phoenix vs Magnolia and SMB vs Ginebra. All of the schedules are there until Sunday and basically three games for both brackets will be done. SMB and Ginebra is for sure going to have a lot of crowd even this is just a semi finals. And both sister companies are going to fight for moving to the finals while their other sister against Fuel Masters. It's basically three SMB companies on the semi finals and it is going to surprise a lot of fans if Fuel Masters will take this championship.

That will be a big surprise if it will happen. This young team going to the finals and beat either SMB or Ginebra, that's a cinderalla story. Right now, they aren't even expected to win in game 1 as the handicap is so high, it opened with +9.5 and it close to +8.5. I'm not sure if Fuel Masters will be able to make it a close game but hopefully they will so we will be able to witness an entertaining match.

What I like about this young team now is that they are complete, they have an unselfish import and they are slowing gaining some confidence which it's very much needed against tough depender team.

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 23, 2024, 04:00:51 PM

Quote from: blockman on January 23, 2024, 01:49:31 PM

Yes, it's just a best of 5 series for both Phoenix vs Magnolia and SMB vs Ginebra. All of the schedules are there until Sunday and basically three games for both brackets will be done. SMB and Ginebra is for sure going to have a lot of crowd even this is just a semi finals. And both sister companies are going to fight for moving to the finals while their other sister against Fuel Masters. It's basically three SMB companies on the semi finals and it is going to surprise a lot of fans if Fuel Masters will take this championship. Grin

That's also the scenario that I'm going to say, what if fuelmaster will manage to move forward and eventually win a tittle, though stats wise they are still young compared with Magnolia and in every aspects Magnolia have that advantages, let see if how they will try everything to move up and escape the top seeder then try another luck to win against the heavy favorite either SMB or Ginebra which is another difficult team to compete with.

A matter of pride for all SMC franchises, though nothing is impossible especially inside PBA but let just enjoy the game and see what the team will deliver during this semi finals matches.

I think that it will give some fans the feedback that they should watch the league again as it is not MVP or SMB team that has won the championships. It's what I have been reading that many of the fans have been tired watching the semis to finals that it's always an MVP or SMB that reaches there and gets there. It's just a what if and it's still going to depend to FuelMasters if they're going to win against Magnolia. The hot talks about RSA and Alchua's teams, who's the stronger boss on this semi finals. Cheesy

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Quote from: blockman on January 23, 2024, 01:49:31 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on January 23, 2024, 08:51:25 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on January 22, 2024, 06:54:50 AM

Not sure if it's a best of 7 or best of 5, but I think Phoenix will be lucky to win a game.

It's a best of 5 series, and you can verify that on their website. https://pba.ph/
Don't forget that tomorrow will be the first game of the semi finals, we have the double header, Phoenix vs Magnolia on first game and SMB vs Ginebra on the 2nd game.

Yes, it's just a best of 5 series for both Phoenix vs Magnolia and SMB vs Ginebra. All of the schedules are there until Sunday and basically three games for both brackets will be done. SMB and Ginebra is for sure going to have a lot of crowd even this is just a semi finals. And both sister companies are going to fight for moving to the finals while their other sister against Fuel Masters. It's basically three SMB companies on the semi finals and it is going to surprise a lot of fans if Fuel Masters will take this championship. Grin

That's also the scenario that I'm going to say, what if fuelmaster will manage to move forward and eventually win a tittle, though stats wise they are still young compared with Magnolia and in every aspects Magnolia have that advantages, let see if how they will try everything to move up and escape the top seeder then try another luck to win against the heavy favorite either SMB or Ginebra which is another difficult team to compete with.

A matter of pride for all SMC franchises, though nothing is impossible especially inside PBA but let just enjoy the game and see what the team will deliver during this semi finals matches.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 23, 2024, 08:51:25 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on January 22, 2024, 06:54:50 AM

Not sure if it's a best of 7 or best of 5, but I think Phoenix will be lucky to win a game.

It's a best of 5 series, and you can verify that on their website. https://pba.ph/
Don't forget that tomorrow will be the first game of the semi finals, we have the double header, Phoenix vs Magnolia on first game and SMB vs Ginebra on the 2nd game.

Yes, it's just a best of 5 series for both Phoenix vs Magnolia and SMB vs Ginebra. All of the schedules are there until Sunday and basically three games for both brackets will be done. SMB and Ginebra is for sure going to have a lot of crowd even this is just a semi finals. And both sister companies are going to fight for moving to the finals while their other sister against Fuel Masters. It's basically three SMB companies on the semi finals and it is going to surprise a lot of fans if Fuel Masters will take this championship. Grin

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Quote from: Kelvinid on January 22, 2024, 06:54:50 AM

Not sure if it's a best of 7 or best of 5, but I think Phoenix will be lucky to win a game.

It's a best of 5 series, and you can verify that on their website. https://pba.ph/
Don't forget that tomorrow will be the first game of the semi finals, we have the double header, Phoenix vs Magnolia on first game and SMB vs Ginebra on the 2nd game.

As for the betting lines, as of this writing, we have as follows.

1-Phoenix +9.5
2-Ginebra +1.5

Good thing they put the Ginebra vs SMB on the 2nd game which will start at 8:00 PM. That looks like a championship game and I think whoever wins that series will become the champion as they will be tested very well, unlike the Magnolia vs Phoenix series which for sure will only be a one sided beat down.

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 22, 2024, 06:24:55 AM

Perkins against Abreva. Both are expected to show some extra work here. Let's see how these two spark plugs will boost their respective teams. I like to see how Phoenix will break that tough defense of Magnolia and try to win the game, while on Magnolia's side, it's just another ordinary game for them, where they are best at both defense and offense, teamwork as always.

That will be a good match up but how about the teammates of Perkins, they are still young and inexperience so I don't think they'll even be competitive aginst the Magnolia Hotspots. One of the reason why the Phoenix won is their good ball movement that leads to great open looks in the 3 point area, but against Magnolia, I doubt it will happen.

Import vs import match up is good, both are tall and hard working but the advantage is on Magnolia since Phoenix import are not good free throw shooter, and that could be exploited in this season. Not sure if it's a best of 7 or best of 5, but I think Phoenix will be lucky to win a game.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 22, 2024, 05:33:34 AM

Quote from: Natalim on January 21, 2024, 11:48:54 AM

Phoenix may advance in the semi finals but I doubt they'll pass through the Magnolia Hotshots. Magnolia is more phyisical than the Meralco, they have a better import and they are moving the ball well, so their offense is not dry.

That's a real challenge for them but they are already successful reaching in the semi finals as they don't usually qualify at this level. It's usually the MVP vs SMB teams that will advance, but they beat Meralco so they deserve to be in this spot.

Indeed, moving to the semis was an achievement already, seeing some social media post regarding a x3 bonus for the players and the rest of the management being awarded to everyone after beating Meralco. Not sure, but it's been a long competition between SMC and MVP during the finals, and now, Fuel master will take their chances, they just need to work more and show everything that they've got against the top seeded Magnolia..

Quote from: Natalim on January 21, 2024, 11:48:54 AM

I think it will be Magnolia vs SMB/Ginebra in the Finals.

Magnolia that's guaranteed, their pesky defense are not gonna put Phoenix on exemption. And one this is sure, we will see a low scoring game here as it will be physical throughout the series. I not sure how effective Perkins will be but they need him to do some extra work.

Perkins against Abreva. Both are expected to show some extra work here. Let's see how these two spark plugs will boost their respective teams. I like to see how Phoenix will break that tough defense of Magnolia and try to win the game, while on Magnolia's side, it's just another ordinary game for them, where they are best at both defense and offense, teamwork as always.

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