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Quote from: blockman on December 12, 2023, 03:45:49 PM

There were some statements from Mikey Williams that he said that he didn't demanded anything just unlike what Al and the Gilas management have mentioned during their press conference before. So, maybe he's right but maybe he can also lie because it was affecting him a lot. Anyway, going back on this scene that he's making about reconsidering him, the TNT might get on him again because this is what they like. To have a player that can be counted and depend on. There might be a special treatment on him but if he's going to ask for a max contract, well then that's TNT's problem if not, there will be some other teams that's going to take him, possibly.

Knowing Mikey William's personality since then, he can just make any statement to the press anytime he wants. But for the legitimacy of those statements, I'm not buying it. Obviously, he won't admit that he didn't demand anything but let's remember that he had that same experience before where he demanded a big salary over the required teams salary cap. And the rest is history.

Also knowing TNT, even how good a player is, they won't give special treatment if, on the other hand, that said player is arrogant. See what happened before when Mikey missed several team practices without giving a noticed? Coach Jolas penalized and suspended him with a 1 week no pay, and showed no special treatment even he was the main leading scorer of the team during that conference.

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Quote from: blockman on December 12, 2023, 03:45:49 PM

There were some statements from Mikey Williams that he said that he didn't demanded anything just unlike what Al and the Gilas management have mentioned during their press conference before. So, maybe he's right but maybe he can also lie because it was affecting him a lot. Anyway, going back on this scene that he's making about reconsidering him, the TNT might get on him again because this is what they like. To have a player that can be counted and depend on. There might be a special treatment on him but if he's going to ask for a max contract, well then that's TNT's problem if not, there will be some other teams that's going to take him, possibly.

There are some players who demanded a lot just to play with Gilas and that is not rumor for sure.
If TNT can afford him again then it will be a big addition to them since Miley is still a great player to look forward to its just that he become too expensive. TNT standing for this conference is not ok, they really need someone to help them and start their campaign on a big wins again.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 12, 2023, 07:48:25 AM

Quote from: blockman on December 11, 2023, 12:25:39 PM

I have read the news that Mikey Williams as per Homer Sayson that he's trying to reconnect with the Talk N Text. What can you say about that? I guess that the TNT will still give him some space since he's a no doubt good addition to their roster. Although they're not at the bottom of standings now but still, they're one of those that don't have a good standing as of the moment. And the trade also about Bolick, I thought that he's already out of the team since he's able to sign into two different leagues.

Maybe they will reconsider him if he follows them and not insist on what he wants, like what you have said. They are now in the middle or not in that usual spot. By adding Mikey, for sure, he will give an additional threat. We all know how well they play together with RHJ, he can help to provide offensive numbers.

Though not sure what the setup will be if ever, he will have that opportunity to play back, let's see if Homer Sayson's forecast will take place, or if it's just another rumor that will not happen. It's an eye-catching forecast to grab the attention of the readers.

There were some statements from Mikey Williams that he said that he didn't demanded anything just unlike what Al and the Gilas management have mentioned during their press conference before. So, maybe he's right but maybe he can also lie because it was affecting him a lot. Anyway, going back on this scene that he's making about reconsidering him, the TNT might get on him again because this is what they like. To have a player that can be counted and depend on. There might be a special treatment on him but if he's going to ask for a max contract, well then that's TNT's problem if not, there will be some other teams that's going to take him, possibly.

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Quote from: blockman on December 11, 2023, 12:25:39 PM

I have read the news that Mikey Williams as per Homer Sayson that he's trying to reconnect with the Talk N Text. What can you say about that? I guess that the TNT will still give him some space since he's a no doubt good addition to their roster. Although they're not at the bottom of standings now but still, they're one of those that don't have a good standing as of the moment. And the trade also about Bolick, I thought that he's already out of the team since he's able to sign into two different leagues.

I have also read this one on my social media feed. If that is true that Mikey Williams is trying to be back to the TNT Katropa then good for him as he now realise that no salary for months now is hard for him hehe. The problem for him though is that MVP pride is high and per Jolas statement, they can live without him. But somehow i like him to be back in the PBA rather playing in another league in Japan or Korea because the guy has talent.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 12, 2023, 07:48:25 AM

Quote from: blockman on December 11, 2023, 12:25:39 PM

I have read the news that Mikey Williams as per Homer Sayson that he's trying to reconnect with the Talk N Text. What can you say about that? I guess that the TNT will still give him some space since he's a no doubt good addition to their roster. Although they're not at the bottom of standings now but still, they're one of those that don't have a good standing as of the moment. And the trade also about Bolick, I thought that he's already out of the team since he's able to sign into two different leagues.

Maybe they will reconsider him if he follows them and not insist on what he wants, like what you have said. They are now in the middle or not in that usual spot. By adding Mikey, for sure, he will give an additional threat. We all know how well they play together with RHJ, he can help to provide offensive numbers.

Though not sure what the setup will be if ever, he will have that opportunity to play back, let's see if Homer Sayson's forecast will take place, or if it's just another rumor that will not happen. It's an eye-catching forecast to grab the attention of the readers.

If I'm a management of TNT, i would not have a communication with Mikey Williams, because it seems like TNT was only the last option here, probably he failed with his negotiations on other teams and they are left with no choice now. When TNT needed him, Williams did not even respond like he wasn't part of the team, so TNT should move on and look for other talent, leave Williams alone.

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Quote from: blockman on December 11, 2023, 12:25:39 PM

I have read the news that Mikey Williams as per Homer Sayson that he's trying to reconnect with the Talk N Text. What can you say about that? I guess that the TNT will still give him some space since he's a no doubt good addition to their roster. Although they're not at the bottom of standings now but still, they're one of those that don't have a good standing as of the moment. And the trade also about Bolick, I thought that he's already out of the team since he's able to sign into two different leagues.

Maybe they will reconsider him if he follows them and not insist on what he wants, like what you have said. They are now in the middle or not in that usual spot. By adding Mikey, for sure, he will give an additional threat. We all know how well they play together with RHJ, he can help to provide offensive numbers.

Though not sure what the setup will be if ever, he will have that opportunity to play back, let's see if Homer Sayson's forecast will take place, or if it's just another rumor that will not happen. It's an eye-catching forecast to grab the attention of the readers.

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I have read the news that Mikey Williams as per Homer Sayson that he's trying to reconnect with the Talk N Text. What can you say about that? I guess that the TNT will still give him some space since he's a no doubt good addition to their roster. Although they're not at the bottom of standings now but still, they're one of those that don't have a good standing as of the moment. And the trade also about Bolick, I thought that he's already out of the team since he's able to sign into two different leagues.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 10, 2023, 11:23:09 PM

Sorry to those who believe that Magnolia will cover that handicap. Undermanned SMB surely can't overplay Mags but they manage to keep the gap close until the game ends.

I'm quite surprised to see Magnolia not covering the spread as they usually do. I thought that after that massive upset in the hands of NorthPort, SMB Beermen will play lousy but it seems that they give Magnolia a good fight until the end.

Two consecutive losses now for the Beermen and they are now in the middle of the standings while Fajardo is out for at least a month, i think they have to change their import as Aska is no good if there is no Fajardo dominating the midddle, i mean he can't be a "go-to-guy" if the Beermen needs to score points. I would not be surprised if Aska will be replaced in the coming weeks, that NorthPort lose was unacceptable as far as I'm concerned hehe.

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Quote from: Distinctin on December 10, 2023, 09:05:24 PM

Quote from: Natalim on December 10, 2023, 05:23:29 AM

By the way, have you see the first game? The import of Meralco just erupted with 54 points, that guy was legit, he played like Bradley Beal, do you agree?

He played exeptional basketball in his debut. Not too long but he go some moves, I like how he keep the Meralco Bolts and offensive team from a defensive team, if they could keep him their regular import, Meralco has a shot of winning a champion. Hopefully I'm not overreacting though, it's just one game but he played impressive basketball already.

Anyways, have you bet on the Magnolia -6.5? That was a trap, I was thinking Magnolia would be able to easily beat SMB since they are undermanned but the game goes down to the wire.

No JMF, Ensiso, Romeo, probably more? Still manage to keep it close, and CJ's shooting was very poor. I don't understand why Magnolia didn't blow them out. There must be something happening inside? Grin

They just need to win, that's all. Whatever the score, a win is still a win, so for those who take the handicap for SMB, they've got that sweet win, not making another speculation, but we all know how sister company play against each other. I agree with what you are saying. It is possible that there's something in between, because by looking at how Magnolia play the game, supposedly an easy blowout game for them, but look what happens, as what I mentioned just win and that's it.

Sorry to those who believe that Magnolia will cover that handicap. Undermanned SMB surely can't overplay Mags but they manage to keep the gap close until the game ends.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 10, 2023, 05:23:29 AM

By the way, have you see the first game? The import of Meralco just erupted with 54 points, that guy was legit, he played like Bradley Beal, do you agree?

He played exeptional basketball in his debut. Not too long but he go some moves, I like how he keep the Meralco Bolts and offensive team from a defensive team, if they could keep him their regular import, Meralco has a shot of winning a champion. Hopefully I'm not overreacting though, it's just one game but he played impressive basketball already.

Anyways, have you bet on the Magnolia -6.5? That was a trap, I was thinking Magnolia would be able to easily beat SMB since they are undermanned but the game goes down to the wire.

No JMF, Ensiso, Romeo, probably more? Still manage to keep it close, and CJ's shooting was very poor. I don't understand why Magnolia didn't blow them out. There must be something happening inside? Grin

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 10, 2023, 04:43:42 AM

Quote from: Japinat on December 09, 2023, 10:14:31 PM

Quote from: Shamm on December 09, 2023, 08:50:22 AM

expectations vs reality as we all know that we expect a good number of points by the star player of barangay ginebra San Miguel but in reality they didn't have much points even though they are doing their very Best but their effort didn't enough to beat their opponent . Anyways tomorrow's game is very good watch as we all know that magnolia will have a good chance to win us as we all know that thses both team are sisters company.

Ginebra was only limited with 77 points, that's not them, you can really tell that they struggle on their shooting, the ball movement isn't so efficient.

Ahanmissi was probably the missing link, he's expecting to bring offense to the team but he only scored 4 points in the game, he had a bad game and that affected the team a lot. 1-8 shooting only, no one could win if one of their superstars shoot like that, and it seemed like he lost his confidence because of a bad start, i think he shoud have continued shooting until he gets his rthym.

Seems to me that coach Tim is still playing with his cards, I mean still working with Ahanmissi. I used to remember Pringle when he first arrived with Gin kings he got that decent playing time to bring his offensive arsenal. Now it's Ahanmissi, to provide that part and with his poor shooting percentages, the team really suffers.

They can't use Stanley Pringle anymore as he wasn't producing like his usualy days, and he is already 36 years old, seems old enough that could not cope up with the younger and more athletic players. I believe when Pringle was injured and he came back, he wasn't the same anymore, so he would jsut be a role player just like other veterans and Ahanmissi might be leading the way along with Thompson.

Quote from: Fredomago on December 10, 2023, 04:43:42 AM

Though it's still far from the next round and Gin kings position is still decent in terms of moving forward, they need sparks to start their rally and win their upcoming games.

They need Scottie back to improve their chances of winning, without him, the one who brings a lot of energy to the team, they'll unlikely to beat the strong teams like the Magnolia.

By the way, have you see the first game? The import of Meralco just erupted with 54 points, that guy was legit, he played like Bradley Beal, do you agree?

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Quote from: Japinat on December 09, 2023, 10:14:31 PM

Quote from: Shamm on December 09, 2023, 08:50:22 AM

expectations vs reality as we all know that we expect a good number of points by the star player of barangay ginebra San Miguel but in reality they didn't have much points even though they are doing their very Best but their effort didn't enough to beat their opponent . Anyways tomorrow's game is very good watch as we all know that magnolia will have a good chance to win us as we all know that thses both team are sisters company.

Ginebra was only limited with 77 points, that's not them, you can really tell that they struggle on their shooting, the ball movement isn't so efficient.

Ahanmissi was probably the missing link, he's expecting to bring offense to the team but he only scored 4 points in the game, he had a bad game and that affected the team a lot. 1-8 shooting only, no one could win if one of their superstars shoot like that, and it seemed like he lost his confidence because of a bad start, i think he shoud have continued shooting until he gets his rthym.

Seems to me that coach Tim is still playing with his cards, I mean still working with Ahanmissi. I used to remember Pringle when he first arrived with Gin kings he got that decent playing time to bring his offensive arsenal. Now it's Ahanmissi, to provide that part and with his poor shooting percentages, the team really suffers.

Though it's still far from the next round and Gin kings position is still decent in terms of moving forward, they need sparks to start their rally and win their upcoming games.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on December 10, 2023, 03:00:43 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on December 10, 2023, 01:39:21 AM

We have two games today, and the first game will start in less than an hour, so check on your bookies now so you'll not miss the fun.

First game is Meralco vs Northport, I'm betting on the better team here with -3.5. For the 2nd game,

This game is happening now. Northport had a big first quarter but Meralco came back in the 2nd quarter to make it a close game.
Unfortunately, I could not watch a live streaming as it seems like our streamers are not anymore taking effort to stream due to the streams that can be easily taken down. Good luck anyway, Meralco is looking good with the come back.

Meralco's import was too much, he scored 54 points while NP's import only 9.
Another big win by the Meralco Bolts, it's a 26 poins win (99-125), not their usual output as they are a defensive team but they are lucky to have Zachary Lofton which is a good candidate for the best import competition.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 10, 2023, 01:39:21 AM

I have Magnolia -7.5 against SMB, SMB lose on their previous game, they'll struggle more against a healthy and complete Magnolia.
No JMF inside, it will be hard for them to prevent the attacks inside.

I think I would wait for a live betting, although we know that Magnolia is good and could possibly cover this, but it's safer to wait since Magnolia doesn't start strong in most of their games but would have a big run in the end.

There's a slight movement of the line, from -7.5 it's not up to -8.5, still in favor of the Magnolia Hotshots.

Game will start in less than an hour, so let's take a dinner early so no more interruption.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 10, 2023, 01:39:21 AM

We have two games today, and the first game will start in less than an hour, so check on your bookies now so you'll not miss the fun.

First game is Meralco vs Northport, I'm betting on the better team here with -3.5. For the 2nd game,

This game is happening now. Northport had a big first quarter but Meralco came back in the 2nd quarter to make it a close game.
Unfortunately, I could not watch a live streaming as it seems like our streamers are not anymore taking effort to stream due to the streams that can be easily taken down. Good luck anyway, Meralco is looking good with the come back.

Quote from: Russlenat on December 10, 2023, 01:39:21 AM

I have Magnolia -7.5 against SMB, SMB lose on their previous game, they'll struggle more against a healthy and complete Magnolia.
No JMF inside, it will be hard for them to prevent the attacks inside.

I think I would wait for a live betting, although we know that Magnolia is good and could possibly cover this, but it's safer to wait since Magnolia doesn't start strong in most of their games but would have a big run in the end.

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We have two games today, and the first game will start in less than an hour, so check on your bookies now so you'll not miss the fun.

First game is Meralco vs Northport, I'm betting on the better team here with -3.5. For the 2nd game, I have Magnolia -7.5 against SMB, SMB lose on their previous game, they'll struggle more against a healthy and complete Magnolia.

No JMF inside, it will be hard for them to prevent the attacks inside.

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Quote from: Shamm on December 09, 2023, 08:50:22 AM

expectations vs reality as we all know that we expect a good number of points by the star player of barangay ginebra San Miguel but in reality they didn't have much points even though they are doing their very Best but their effort didn't enough to beat their opponent . Anyways tomorrow's game is very good watch as we all know that magnolia will have a good chance to win us as we all know that thses both team are sisters company.

Ginebra was only limited with 77 points, that's not them, you can really tell that they struggle on their shooting, the ball movement isn't so efficient.

Ahanmissi was probably the missing link, he's expecting to bring offense to the team but he only scored 4 points in the game, he had a bad game and that affected the team a lot. 1-8 shooting only, no one could win if one of their superstars shoot like that, and it seemed like he lost his confidence because of a bad start, i think he shoud have continued shooting until he gets his rthym.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 09, 2023, 07:25:48 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on December 09, 2023, 02:13:49 AM

That rig speculation would always comes out once a favorite team loss, hehe.. That's normal, don't take it seriously, and just move on.

Anyway, speaking of move on, we have one game today, it's Ginebra vs Phoenix Fuel LPG. The spread is -6.5 for SMB and I'm picking them to win and cover. Although Phoenix does have a good record with 5-1, I'm still not convince that they could give Ginebra a good game.

Their 5 games was against a mediocre teams (see below), so I like the spread of Ginebra.

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Turned out that Gin kings failed to cover and worse they failed to win the game, Phoenix shows that they can win even against the tough squad, not sure what happened with the gin kings but again they failed their fans, the numbers that we expected from each stars didn't show up, while Phoenix really did well after the first half they dominated and manage to keep that lead even how hard it is knowing that gin kings will continue to chase until the last second before the final buzzer.

expectations vs reality as we all know that we expect a good number of points by the star player of barangay ginebra San Miguel but in reality they didn't have much points even though they are doing their very Best but their effort didn't enough to beat their opponent . Anyways tomorrow's game is very good watch as we all know that magnolia will have a good chance to win us as we all know that thses both team are sisters company.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 09, 2023, 07:25:48 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on December 09, 2023, 02:13:49 AM

That rig speculation would always comes out once a favorite team loss, hehe.. That's normal, don't take it seriously, and just move on.

Anyway, speaking of move on, we have one game today, it's Ginebra vs Phoenix Fuel LPG. The spread is -6.5 for SMB and I'm picking them to win and cover. Although Phoenix does have a good record with 5-1, I'm still not convince that they could give Ginebra a good game.

Their 5 games was against a mediocre teams (see below), so I like the spread of Ginebra.

converge
DYIP
Bossing
ROS
NLEX

Turned out that Gin kings failed to cover and worse they failed to win the game, Phoenix shows that they can win even against the tough squad, not sure what happened with the gin kings but again they failed their fans, the numbers that we expected from each stars didn't show up, while Phoenix really did well after the first half they dominated and manage to keep that lead even how hard it is knowing that gin kings will continue to chase until the last second before the final buzzer.

They were out of their comfort zone, not shooting well and their import is being outperformed by Williams.

I didnt read the news, is Thompson injured, or what? He's not in the game, Ginebra would probably be better if he was playing because of the energy he could bring on the floor. As usual, looking at the numbers of Ginebra's import, his playing okay but his impact wasn't so good, this is the time when people would start to miss Brownlee, and would say what if Brownlee was still their import, hehe..

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Quote from: Yamifoud on December 09, 2023, 02:13:49 AM

That rig speculation would always comes out once a favorite team loss, hehe.. That's normal, don't take it seriously, and just move on.

Anyway, speaking of move on, we have one game today, it's Ginebra vs Phoenix Fuel LPG. The spread is -6.5 for SMB and I'm picking them to win and cover. Although Phoenix does have a good record with 5-1, I'm still not convince that they could give Ginebra a good game.

Their 5 games was against a mediocre teams (see below), so I like the spread of Ginebra.

converge
DYIP
Bossing
ROS
NLEX

Turned out that Gin kings failed to cover and worse they failed to win the game, Phoenix shows that they can win even against the tough squad, not sure what happened with the gin kings but again they failed their fans, the numbers that we expected from each stars didn't show up, while Phoenix really did well after the first half they dominated and manage to keep that lead even how hard it is knowing that gin kings will continue to chase until the last second before the final buzzer.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 09, 2023, 06:06:28 AM

They are having a tour now, I think this game is played in Batangas, I just forgot the location when it was mentioned.
Currently it's a close game, but you know, 2nd half is the favorite period of Ginebra as they usually have good run on the finishing quarters.

That's why.. Maybe that's the reason why we are witnessing a low scoring game now, the unfamiliarity of the court.

First half has ended, Ginebra took the lead with 36-43.
Those who missed the pregame odds, we have a live betting lines available, as for the handicap, we have Ginebra -7.5 at 1.85(odds).

Quote from: Russlenat on December 09, 2023, 06:06:28 AM

Actually, it's quite funny, beacuse when it's played on their usual venue, only few people would attend, here, you can see lots fo people watching, it's like an MPBL feel.

This is an on tour, the gym is not as big as the usual gym they're using, so it's expected that the a lot of people will watch the game. I think it's even sponsored by the local government, so probably tickets are free.

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