2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 274.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on March 18, 2021, 10:50:39 PM

@RealMalatesta good news is situation in Qatar looks good for now, and if they can continue on reducing the case counts then it’s possible that World Cup will go ahead without any issues. Also I believe all the persons travelling to Qatar will be required to take vaccines, and they’ll be asked to arrive early so any covid like situation can be tackled early on.

I do not want to sound racist at all, but I do not trust these middle east nations with these numbers at all, many of them could be lying very easily (and not like west doesn't). Not just because they are in middle east but because they have super wealthy and basically "rulers" of their nations as well and that makes it a semi-dictatorship in my eyes, while millions go hungry in desert, there are wealthy that owns millions of places all around the world, that's bad, I condemn same when USA corporations does it, why not Qatar as well.

I feel like considering all the human rights breaches as well, we should be easily saying that these numbers could very well be wrong. How can I know for certain that they are just notifying WHO with the wrong numbers? Maybe they have 10x more and hide it? How can we be certain about it? Not like uefa would care? They didn't care when Qatar used slaves to build stadiums, they won't care about covid situation neither.

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Quote from: Lucius on March 19, 2021, 06:52:51 AM

The Dutch Football Association has announced that it will allow 5000 fans in the match with Latvia - provided they have a negative Covid-19 test.

One of the most irresponsible decisions. What is the point in allowing the spectators, when Europe is witnessing the third wave of infections? The test results may be 24-48 hours old by the time the match begin. And by that time, at least a handful out of this group of 5,000 may get infected by the virus. And it will spread to other spectators in the stadium. They could have held this match without any fans/spectators.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on March 18, 2021, 07:05:47 PM

Yeah, vaccination rate in Russia is low, but according to official data, situation isn't bad there...

Of course we believe them in their statements, Russia is known for its honesty - I just think they decided to put the economy first and human lives second. I also know that there is a big problem with alcoholism in that country, and for effective vaccination one needs to give up alcohol for a long time.

Let's go back to the topic - As for the match Slovenia-Croatia, two very important players for Croatia (Brozovic and Perisic - Inter Milan) are currently banned from leaving Italy due to 4 positive cases of the virus in the club. The Croatian Football Association has already taken action to release them, the outcome is not yet known. Of course all the other players from that club are in the same situation, and there is a good chance that they will not be able to play for their national teams.

The Dutch Football Association has announced that it will allow 5000 fans in the match with Latvia - provided they have a negative Covid-19 test.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on March 18, 2021, 10:08:02 PM

The thing is, I do not even believe that 2022 world cup would happen that easily, we still need to make sure that nobody gets infected there as well, we are talking about bringing everyone together and putting them in one common place, and by the way these people do not even come from same nation, they are coming from all over the world, so we will literally need to be careful about this more than anyone has ever been careful about anything.

And in return of that we maaaay watch some games but there could be some covid spread and postpone games and considering how fast this is, postponing usually is not in the books so it will be a new thing. I also do not believe in Qatar neither, we all know how they are using slave labour to build stuff and how they bribed UEFA to get it as well, they may just ignore it as well now that they are not going to make much money from it.

@RealMalatesta good news is situation in Qatar looks good for now, and if they can continue on reducing the case counts then it’s possible that World Cup will go ahead without any issues. Also I believe all the persons travelling to Qatar will be required to take vaccines, and they’ll be asked to arrive early so any covid like situation can be tackled early on.

Source:

https://thediplomat.com/2021/03/will-japans-olympics-be-rescued-by-chinas-vaccine/ (We could witness something like this)

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Quote from: LTU_btc on March 18, 2021, 07:05:47 PM

Yeah, vaccination rate in Russia is low, but according to official data, situation isn't bad there, they have just 46 cases per 100k people, while there is just few countries in Europe with below 100 cases per 100k peoppe.
Well, IMO some lockdown restrictions doesn't makes much sense or it's overkill. But these things goes out of this topic.

That is wrong. Russia is having one of the worst COVID 19 pandemics in all of Europe. Check this:

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/03/05/russias-excess-death-toll-approaches-400k-a73168

There are unofficial reports claiming that up to 400,000 may have died from the virus in Russia. On top of that, the vaccination program is progressing at snail's pace. So far less than 8 million doses have been administered, because the Russians are not very enthusiastic to get themselves vaccinated. Russia is perhaps the only country right now with an oversupply of the vaccine.

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The thing is, I do not even believe that 2022 world cup would happen that easily, we still need to make sure that nobody gets infected there as well, we are talking about bringing everyone together and putting them in one common place, and by the way these people do not even come from same nation, they are coming from all over the world, so we will literally need to be careful about this more than anyone has ever been careful about anything.

And in return of that we maaaay watch some games but there could be some covid spread and postpone games and considering how fast this is, postponing usually is not in the books so it will be a new thing. I also do not believe in Qatar neither, we all know how they are using slave labour to build stuff and how they bribed UEFA to get it as well, they may just ignore it as well now that they are not going to make much money from it.

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Quote from: Lucius on March 17, 2021, 09:30:17 AM

I’ve noticed this before at Euroleague basketball games in Russia, and at one point I thought it was some old videos - a bit of a weird situation, because from what I hear the vaccination rate in Russia is very low. I think we should let spectators into stadiums in those countries that have a good epidemiological condition, of course with the obligation to wear masks and a safe distance.

In my country, thousands of young people gather outdoors every weekend and the government does nothing about it - but at the same time, people are not allowed in football stadiums, which really doesn't make sense.

Yeah, vaccination rate in Russia is low, but according to official data, situation isn't bad there, they have just 46 cases per 100k people, while there is just few countries in Europe with below 100 cases per 100k peoppe.
Well, IMO some lockdown restrictions doesn't makes much sense or it's overkill. But these things goes out of this topic.

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The World Cup Qualifiers are going to start with a great game between Turkey and Netherlands in Turk Telekom Stadium. I really love Turkey's squad that consists of very good and talented young players who are playing at really big Europe clubs right now. I believe they can really do nice things in the qualifiers. Netherlands on the other hand also have a really strong squad too and they are one of the powerful countries here. When we look at the head-to-head games, we see that Netherlands have a predominance over Turkey. But I'd also like to indicate that their last head-to-head was in 2015. Grin

Both sides have totally different squads now so this game is really open for any result.

In my opinion, we will see a very tough game. Turkey could manage to beat Netherlands here by only 1 goal and make a good start.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on March 16, 2021, 06:57:10 PM

In most stadiums yes, but there will be some games with supporters I think. From what I saw in Europa league games, there was fans in Ukraine and Russia. Also, as I know Belarus and Faroe Islands allow spectators to visit stadiums. Maybe Israel to, they already had vaccinated quite big part of population. UEFA allows to fill up to 30% of stadium capacity. It's good feeling to watch game with real fans and no some artificial sound from FIFA games.

I’ve noticed this before at Euroleague basketball games in Russia, and at one point I thought it was some old videos - a bit of a weird situation, because from what I hear the vaccination rate in Russia is very low. I think we should let spectators into stadiums in those countries that have a good epidemiological condition, of course with the obligation to wear masks and a safe distance.

In my country, thousands of young people gather outdoors every weekend and the government does nothing about it - but at the same time, people are not allowed in football stadiums, which really doesn't make sense.

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Quote from: swogerino on March 17, 2021, 04:23:18 AM

I think 18 months is far more than enough to get a lot of people taking the vaccine,am speaking about developed countries.Even less developed countries are trying hard to find vaccines to fight the pandemic so I think until June 2022 there is enough time to see a normal World Cup.

18 months is enough to vaccinate a lot of people, but I am afraid that FIFA don't have that sort of time. They need to complete the qualifying tournament at least 6-7 months before the main tournament. Else, it will create a lot of confusion for the participating teams and the host nation (in terms of logistics and other issues). So effectively they have less than 12 months to complete all the qualifying tournaments and the Inter-confederation play-offs.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 16, 2021, 10:31:37 PM

... The Germany vs Iceland match will be worth placing a bet, since the latter is famous for upsetting big teams.

It is really true that we have seen many times that Iceland defeated more powerful teams than them. But they have been too bad for a long time as they won only one time in the UEFA Nations League. I really wonder how they will play in the Qualifiers for the World Cup. Germany are still much more powerful and I expect them to be fully focused as it is the World Cup we are talking about. I think they will win this match.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 17, 2021, 01:44:09 AM

Quote from: Xinarae* on March 16, 2021, 10:57:26 PM

Every country is preparing for the world cup the asian region qualifiers for the 2022 world cup in Qatar have been postponed due to corona's outburst note that the messi neymar qualifiers in south america started last october the european qualifiers will start on the field from March 2021. The draw for the European World Cup qualifiers was held in Switzerland Germany will play Romania, Iceland, Northern Macedonia, Armenia and Liechtenstein.

Right now UK is the only country in Europe where the cases are going down drastically. All the other countries are reporting very high number of new cases and deaths from COVID 19. There is a good chance that at least some of the matches may get cancelled if either the squad members of the support staff test positive for the virus. And FIFA doesn't have much time as well. Only around 18 months remain for the World Cup in 2022.

I think 18 months is far more than enough to get a lot of people taking the vaccine,am speaking about developed countries.Even less developed countries are trying hard to find vaccines to fight the pandemic so I think until June 2022 there is enough time to see a normal World Cup.

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Quote from: Xinarae* on March 16, 2021, 10:57:26 PM

Every country is preparing for the world cup the asian region qualifiers for the 2022 world cup in Qatar have been postponed due to corona's outburst note that the messi neymar qualifiers in south america started last october the european qualifiers will start on the field from March 2021. The draw for the European World Cup qualifiers was held in Switzerland Germany will play Romania, Iceland, Northern Macedonia, Armenia and Liechtenstein.

Right now UK is the only country in Europe where the cases are going down drastically. All the other countries are reporting very high number of new cases and deaths from COVID 19. There is a good chance that at least some of the matches may get cancelled if either the squad members of the support staff test positive for the virus. And FIFA doesn't have much time as well. Only around 18 months remain for the World Cup in 2022.

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Every country is preparing for the world cup the asian region qualifiers for the 2022 world cup in Qatar have been postponed due to corona's outburst note that the messi neymar qualifiers in south america started last october the european qualifiers will start on the field from March 2021. The draw for the European World Cup qualifiers was held in Switzerland Germany will play Romania, Iceland, Northern Macedonia, Armenia and Liechtenstein.

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First round of matches will be played on 24th this month. There are a few interesting matches, such as Turkey vs Netherlands, Serbia vs Ireland, Belgium vs Wales and France vs Ukraine. And more matches will be played on the next day (25th) including first outings for Germany, Spain, Italy and England. The Germany vs Iceland match will be worth placing a bet, since the latter is famous for upsetting big teams.

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Damn, I really missed international breaks during winter. No, I didn't. Haven't looked on groups and fixtures yet. But today I read that Ibra returns to Sweden national team, so probably I will take a look at Sweden game.

Quote from: Lucius on March 16, 2021, 11:10:43 AM

I would like to look at the European part of the qualifications, and given the current situation with COVID-19, which is quite bad in some countries - I guess there will be no spectators in the stadiums.

In most stadiums yes, but there will be some games with supporters I think. From what I saw in Europa league games, there was fans in Ukraine and Russia. Also, as I know Belarus and Faroe Islands allow spectators to visit stadiums. Maybe Israel to, they already had vaccinated quite big part of population. UEFA allows to fill up to 30% of stadium capacity. It's good feeling to watch game with real fans and no some artificial sound from FIFA games.

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Given that there is only a week left until the start of qualifying I think it would be good to bump this topic (for discussion, but also for someone not to make a new one). I would like to look at the European part of the qualifications, and given the current situation with COVID-19, which is quite bad in some countries - I guess there will be no spectators in the stadiums.

Of course, it would be good for everyone to share information about possible absences due to injuries and infected with the virus, and to be careful with first-round bets - national teams meet after a few months break and this will probably be seen in the games.

https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/europe/matches/#282687

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Quote from: Yudhisthir on December 26, 2020, 03:28:42 AM

The qualifications quotas for the specific regions would be the same as every previous world cups since 2006. And in my opinion, the current system is nearly perfect. There seems to be a few good teams missing from the Europe and South America, but when they fail to qualify on that number of spots, there's already a lot more better teams participating. It guarantees a representation of almost all the region of the world.

It is unfair to have low-ranking teams from Asia and Africa, when the higher ranked teams from Europe and Americas are denied the opportunity to quality. Rather than continent-based qualifications, FIFA should consider global-level qualification. This would ensure that the best teams are able to secure their qualification to the main tournament. But then FIFA want to diversify the sport, which I believe is progressive thinking.

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The qualifications quotas for the specific regions would be the same as every previous world cups since 2006. And in my opinion, the current system is nearly perfect. There seems to be a few good teams missing from the Europe and South America, but when they fail to qualify on that number of spots, there's already a lot more better teams participating. It guarantees a representation of almost all the region of the world.

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Quote from: TedMosby on December 26, 2020, 12:17:09 AM

not sure about this 2022 world cup. there's a chance that this event could be postponed.
yesterday I read that FIFA canceled 2021 U-20, U-17 World Cups due to pandemic situation.
both of them would be held in 2023.
https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2020/12/24/fifa-cancels-2021-u-20-u-17-world-cups-due-covid-19-pandemic

I feel sad to know about it because the U-20 world cup should be held in my country next year.

The tournament is scheduled for 2022, and I hope that it will go ahead as planned. Even if some of the qualifying tournaments get delayed or postponed, the confederations will be able to complete them by 2021. When the other sports events such as Olympics can go ahead as per the plan, then why can't the FIFA World Cup? Also, the financial ramifications will be there. The TV broadcasting rights were sold for billions of USD. If the tournament can't be scheduled, then FIFA needs to reimburse this amount.

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