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legendary
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I think we can already see the pressure of World Cup approaching on internal clubs but also on national teams are tonight we have Nations League and big teams like England or Germany are really having a slow pace game in order to avoid injuries or anything similar. Also , with this Nations League games , South American teams are having an advantage because players are extra rested than some others.

This nations league is apsolute stupid stuff and just a waste of player strengths. Europeans best teams are really bad lately and i dont think they will reach their top levels once the world cup begins. Most disappointing are Germany and England. France played really good so we can see them going far but others i dont think they can do much
What happens is that it can be passed off as one of the ways to know the different strengths of many teams, yes, it is very likely that many players will get injured, but it is the only way that coaches have to realize who they are with and with who doesn't, this is something that can happen at any time, there are cases that players who go to the tournament and get injured in full training, with their own team friends, so this is something that can happen, of course there are some directors technicians who do not expose their top stars much, because they are the ones who can give their teams victory, but that is already their decision.

As long as we do not become self sufficient at everything as a nation, we will be depending others, and occasionally they others we talk about will be people who have human rights violations. Just last year during Saudi Arabia grand prix of formula 1, there were bombs going off very near the race track, you could literally see the bomb cloud in cars pictures during practice session, but they kept going. Because they want the money, and same goes here.

Qatar has LNG and everyone will be silent about whatever they do, because they need LNG, they can kill anyone they want, and west will not do anything about it. Hell owners of Newcastle literally murdered and chopped a journalist against them, and they still managed to buy Newcastle with no problem.

Agreed 100%. The world has become more money minded now, and there is no space for any sort of morals and ethics. And this is applicable to sports as well. My question is where do we draw the line? If tomorrow Saudi Arabia uses nuclear weapon on Yemen, still they will enjoy the same relationship with FIFA and IOC? Qatar is in a very advantageous position right now, as the EU badly needs their LNG. Saudi Arabia is one of the top oil producers. There is a sense of impunity and it is getting worse with every passing year.

Well, we all know that the current situation in the world is very diverse, only those that can offer certain services are the ones that can provide well-being and be free from wars and prohibitions, although this World Cup in Qatar is going to be very full of many fundamentals, there are nations that still have problems, nothing more than the problem that exists in Europe with Gas, with everything that they have in RUSSIA from the problem with oil, the different prohibitions that exist, that all these political problems have reached the world, more have been announced things with probable drums to war, all this has somehow affected.


This has been always about money and money has always decided everything, but only if it is someone's "good" money, or to put it even more simply, if in Washington someone approves or at least does not disapprove your moves, then you can do whatever you want. Double standards are a disgusting topic, but Qatar is just a student, nothing more. he didn't come up with these rules, but Qatar just learned how to use them competently.

Yes, everything is money, if it weren't for so much of the business model that will be generated, we wouldn't have so many problems in the world, in fact when we mention everything you have to live to generate money, the great nations just by making war They open many business centers, both for weapons, for all war material, for the permits that have to be given in NATO, everything represents money, and obviously FIFA are not holy angels, they also do their part, everything is managed as if they were puppets, for me everything is connected, and I think that when the World Cup starts it is the month that everything will be more neutralized.
legendary
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As long as we do not become self sufficient at everything as a nation, we will be depending others, and occasionally they others we talk about will be people who have human rights violations. Just last year during Saudi Arabia grand prix of formula 1, there were bombs going off very near the race track, you could literally see the bomb cloud in cars pictures during practice session, but they kept going. Because they want the money, and same goes here.

Qatar has LNG and everyone will be silent about whatever they do, because they need LNG, they can kill anyone they want, and west will not do anything about it. Hell owners of Newcastle literally murdered and chopped a journalist against them, and they still managed to buy Newcastle with no problem.

Agreed 100%. The world has become more money minded now, and there is no space for any sort of morals and ethics. And this is applicable to sports as well. My question is where do we draw the line? If tomorrow Saudi Arabia uses nuclear weapon on Yemen, still they will enjoy the same relationship with FIFA and IOC? Qatar is in a very advantageous position right now, as the EU badly needs their LNG. Saudi Arabia is one of the top oil producers. There is a sense of impunity and it is getting worse with every passing year.
This has been always about money and money has always decided everything, but only if it is someone's "good" money, or to put it even more simply, if in Washington someone approves or at least does not disapprove your moves, then you can do whatever you want. Double standards are a disgusting topic, but Qatar is just a student, nothing more. he didn't come up with these rules, but Qatar just learned how to use them competently.
legendary
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As long as we do not become self sufficient at everything as a nation, we will be depending others, and occasionally they others we talk about will be people who have human rights violations. Just last year during Saudi Arabia grand prix of formula 1, there were bombs going off very near the race track, you could literally see the bomb cloud in cars pictures during practice session, but they kept going. Because they want the money, and same goes here.

Qatar has LNG and everyone will be silent about whatever they do, because they need LNG, they can kill anyone they want, and west will not do anything about it. Hell owners of Newcastle literally murdered and chopped a journalist against them, and they still managed to buy Newcastle with no problem.

Agreed 100%. The world has become more money minded now, and there is no space for any sort of morals and ethics. And this is applicable to sports as well. My question is where do we draw the line? If tomorrow Saudi Arabia uses nuclear weapon on Yemen, still they will enjoy the same relationship with FIFA and IOC? Qatar is in a very advantageous position right now, as the EU badly needs their LNG. Saudi Arabia is one of the top oil producers. There is a sense of impunity and it is getting worse with every passing year.
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Can't put it any better than this. LNG is the main export from Qatar and the prices have go up by 10x to 20x compared to 2021 levels. Qatar will be earning hundreds of billions of USD in profit this year. And that is the reason why they don't give a fuck to all those complaints about human rights abuses, restrictions on tourists and discrimination against LGBTs. They will treat visitors and fans the same way as some rich man treats beggars on street. And the vast majority of the visitors won't be having a problem with that.
Yeah, and that is where it bugs me off. I don't know, maybe I've become jaded after seeing so many things past few years. From the covid pandemic, the war in Ukraine, the energy crisis, the world economy in recession,... When I look at the World Cup in Qatar, I can not see it as a normal soccer game anymore. Or free from political stuff that we used to say sports remove the barrier and bring people all around the world together. All the 'noise' behind it, the ugly at how it has become.

Some posts earlier talked about: What are we going to do about it? There is nothing we could do. Cause no amount of boycott worth jack shit as Qatar doesn't care about profit. So what? Might just come to the acceptance phase and just enjoy it? Hell no.
As long as we do not become self sufficient at everything as a nation, we will be depending others, and occasionally they others we talk about will be people who have human rights violations. Just last year during Saudi Arabia grand prix of formula 1, there were bombs going off very near the race track, you could literally see the bomb cloud in cars pictures during practice session, but they kept going. Because they want the money, and same goes here.

Qatar has LNG and everyone will be silent about whatever they do, because they need LNG, they can kill anyone they want, and west will not do anything about it. Hell owners of Newcastle literally murdered and chopped a journalist against them, and they still managed to buy Newcastle with no problem.
legendary
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Yeah, and that is where it bugs me off. I don't know, maybe I've become jaded after seeing so many things past few years. From the covid pandemic, the war in Ukraine, the energy crisis, the world economy in recession,... When I look at the World Cup in Qatar, I can not see it as a normal soccer game anymore. Or free from political stuff that we used to say sports remove the barrier and bring people all around the world together. All the 'noise' behind it, the ugly at how it has become.

Some posts earlier talked about: What are we going to do about it? There is nothing we could do. Cause no amount of boycott worth jack shit as Qatar doesn't care about profit. So what? Might just come to the acceptance phase and just enjoy it? Hell no.

With a few weeks remaining for the start of the world cup, now it is too late for any sort of protests or boycotting. Action should have been taken in 2011, when it was revealed that Qatar won the bidding process by bribing some of the voters. In any other sports association, they would have been asked to forfeit the hosting rights. But FIFA took a very lenient stance on Qatar. Even the former FIFA president Sepp Blatter claimed that Qatar won hosting rights through unfair means. There were protest back then as well, but the mainstream media had a policy of censoring those events.
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No amount of advantages or benefits that experts estimate are worth the hard-cold fact this Qatar World Cup cost more than 200 billion dollars so far. Can the 1.2 million visitors or $17 billion in revenue from everything together pay off the 200 billion dollars cost? Nope, no matter how much those experts want to spin.

You know, that's fine with Qatar too cause I said many times, they don't give a fuck about profit. This World Cup is held in their county as a huge ego-tripping to show off to the world how rich they're. How much money they could waste cause they're from the OPEC+ club. They'll get back the money by selling their oils to you, at a higher price, of course. The energy crisis might be damned and they laughed at your face since you're the one financial their lavish spending in this World Cup.

Can't put it any better than this. LNG is the main export from Qatar and the prices have go up by 10x to 20x compared to 2021 levels. Qatar will be earning hundreds of billions of USD in profit this year. And that is the reason why they don't give a fuck to all those complaints about human rights abuses, restrictions on tourists and discrimination against LGBTs. They will treat visitors and fans the same way as some rich man treats beggars on street. And the vast majority of the visitors won't be having a problem with that.
Yeah, and that is where it bugs me off. I don't know, maybe I've become jaded after seeing so many things past few years. From the covid pandemic, the war in Ukraine, the energy crisis, the world economy in recession,... When I look at the World Cup in Qatar, I can not see it as a normal soccer game anymore. Or free from political stuff that we used to say sports remove the barrier and bring people all around the world together. All the 'noise' behind it, the ugly at how it has become.

Some posts earlier talked about: What are we going to do about it? There is nothing we could do. Cause no amount of boycott worth jack shit as Qatar doesn't care about profit. So what? Might just come to the acceptance phase and just enjoy it? Hell no.
legendary
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No amount of advantages or benefits that experts estimate are worth the hard-cold fact this Qatar World Cup cost more than 200 billion dollars so far. Can the 1.2 million visitors or $17 billion in revenue from everything together pay off the 200 billion dollars cost? Nope, no matter how much those experts want to spin.

You know, that's fine with Qatar too cause I said many times, they don't give a fuck about profit. This World Cup is held in their county as a huge ego-tripping to show off to the world how rich they're. How much money they could waste cause they're from the OPEC+ club. They'll get back the money by selling their oils to you, at a higher price, of course. The energy crisis might be damned and they laughed at your face since you're the one financial their lavish spending in this World Cup.

Can't put it any better than this. LNG is the main export from Qatar and the prices have go up by 10x to 20x compared to 2021 levels. Qatar will be earning hundreds of billions of USD in profit this year. And that is the reason why they don't give a fuck to all those complaints about human rights abuses, restrictions on tourists and discrimination against LGBTs. They will treat visitors and fans the same way as some rich man treats beggars on street. And the vast majority of the visitors won't be having a problem with that.
legendary
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We'll have to wait and see how many foreign people get arrested for drinking beer or simply kissing a girl in public.

There are many strict rules in Qatar about those things, and many foreigners will probably end up doing all the "wrong things".
As strict as the rules are in Qatar, I believe that foreigners who are arrested for drinking or kissing in public are likely to have their prison sentences converted into a fine.
Obviously it won't be a cheap fine, because Qatar needs to impose that respect, but I believe that there will be this flexibility for those who are foreigners.
Of course, it all depends on the "damage" that the person commits... in the case of being absurdly drunk or parading naked through the streets, it should result in much bigger problems than a simple fine.
Surely this is going to be the biggest concern right now and FIFA organizer and Qatar authorities are in talk about this all which is going to be having no positive end for fans because I read on few sites Qatar authorities are not going to give any soft policy so with this we can expect good number of fines instead of having prison sentences because this can create more feud which is not good for Qatar and this event they are already working on this through few videos which are promoted by many western celebrities as they want all tourists must follow their rules and culture instead of doing their own enjoyments which are not allowed in strict rules.

This one month event is going to be real drama for these are not familiar with these strict Islamic rules and never have any visit to any Muslim country which is having tough policies as mostly peoples are familiar with Turkey, Dubai and Morocco which are had soft policies and many other celebrations and enjoyments are allowed here.
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Qatar spent a lot of money to build and make its stadium and infrastructure very attractive. Besides, this World Cup is the first in the region.
Now, how successful will be, will be evaluated throughout the games.
I agree that in this game there isn't a clear favourite, most teams are equivalent with slight advantage for Brazil then Argentina but as everyone knows, in World Cup, you always see surprises and big teams might be eliminated early.

The 2022 World Cup is the Most Expensive FIFA Tournament in History.
The costs incurred are almost 20 times the funds spent by Russia to host the 2018 World Cup.
But economically, the World Cup is also predicted to provide many advantages for Qatar.
Estimated that during the world cup, will be around 1.2 million visitors come and watch live at the stadium.
And will add revenue for the Qatar economy to $17 billion.

Btw, I hope there will be a new world champion outside that has won the world cup before.
No amount of advantages or benefits that experts estimate are worth the hard-cold fact this Qatar World Cup cost more than 200 billion dollars so far. Can the 1.2 million visitors or $17 billion in revenue from everything together pay off the 200 billion dollars cost? Nope, no matter how much those experts want to spin.

You know, that's fine with Qatar too cause I said many times, they don't give a fuck about profit. This World Cup is held in their county as a huge ego-tripping to show off to the world how rich they're. How much money they could waste cause they're from the OPEC+ club. They'll get back the money by selling their oils to you, at a higher price, of course. The energy crisis might be damned and they laughed at your face since you're the one financial their lavish spending in this World Cup.
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This World Cup is very important for Qatar, as a big promotion of their country in the world, and for political and tourist reasons I believe they will not strictly enforce their strict laws on alcohol or kissing in public, at least while the World Cup lasts.
After all, how many policemen would Qatar need to have if it could control thousands of foreign fans who will come to the country, and personally check every fan, what they drink or do in public. That would be mission impossible.
Do you really think that their police will monitor what men and women do and punish them for kissing, hugging or having sex with each other with lashes and imprisonment?
Such a thing would cause a big world scandal and probably some national teams would refuse to play in the World Cup, and because of this, Qatar will temporarily relax the enforcement of its strict laws until the World Cup is over.

Well that's why I added the link, it already started. It was a woman traveling for the preparations of the world cup and she was raped there, she told the police about it and she is now facing jail for having sex outside of marriage.
legendary
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As strict as the rules are in Qatar, I believe that foreigners who are arrested for drinking or kissing in public are likely to have their prison sentences converted into a fine.
Obviously it won't be a cheap fine, because Qatar needs to impose that respect, but I believe that there will be this flexibility for those who are foreigners.
Of course, it all depends on the "damage" that the person commits... in the case of being absurdly drunk or parading naked through the streets, it should result in much bigger problems than a simple fine.

I'm not sure, specially after reading this case:

A Mexican woman reported an assault in Qatar. She faces jail, 100 lashes.
"Although I had the forensic evidence of the beatings and everything, they believed him," Paola Schietekat said about the incident, which has made international headlines.


This World Cup is very important for Qatar, as a big promotion of their country in the world, and for political and tourist reasons I believe they will not strictly enforce their strict laws on alcohol or kissing in public, at least while the World Cup lasts.
After all, how many policemen would Qatar need to have if it could control thousands of foreign fans who will come to the country, and personally check every fan, what they drink or do in public. That would be mission impossible.
Do you really think that their police will monitor what men and women do and punish them for kissing, hugging or having sex with each other with lashes and imprisonment?
Such a thing would cause a big world scandal and probably some national teams would refuse to play in the World Cup, and because of this, Qatar will temporarily relax the enforcement of its strict laws until the World Cup is over.


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~snip~
As strict as the rules are in Qatar, I believe that foreigners who are arrested for drinking or kissing in public are likely to have their prison sentences converted into a fine.
Obviously it won't be a cheap fine, because Qatar needs to impose that respect, but I believe that there will be this flexibility for those who are foreigners.
Of course, it all depends on the "damage" that the person commits... in the case of being absurdly drunk or parading naked through the streets, it should result in much bigger problems than a simple fine.

I'm not sure, specially after reading this case:

A Mexican woman reported an assault in Qatar. She faces jail, 100 lashes.
"Although I had the forensic evidence of the beatings and everything, they believed him," Paola Schietekat said about the incident, which has made international headlines.
legendary
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We'll have to wait and see how many foreign people get arrested for drinking beer or simply kissing a girl in public.

There are many strict rules in Qatar about those things, and many foreigners will probably end up doing all the "wrong things".

As strict as the rules are in Qatar, I believe that foreigners who are arrested for drinking or kissing in public are likely to have their prison sentences converted into a fine.
Obviously it won't be a cheap fine, because Qatar needs to impose that respect, but I believe that there will be this flexibility for those who are foreigners.
Of course, it all depends on the "damage" that the person commits... in the case of being absurdly drunk or parading naked through the streets, it should result in much bigger problems than a simple fine.
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Qatar is not a nation who lacks money, they have plenty of money and they do not worry about anything regarding the finances of this deal. The only thing they want to achieve is to look good to Europe and nothing more. With this tournament there would be a lot of people who will see a fake Qatar that is understanding and loving, and that’s not going to be the case as we all know.

The reality is much darker, but they will shade it white to look cute towards world powers and its citizens. I have seen this a lot in other sports and that’s why I won't buy it, but there will be plenty of people who would, this money spent is like advertisement, it’s not to make sure they profit, it’s there to promote Qatar to world stage.

We'll have to wait and see how many foreign people get arrested for drinking beer or simply kissing a girl in public.

There are many strict rules in Qatar about those things, and many foreigners will probably end up doing all the "wrong things".
legendary
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~snip~
The 2022 World Cup is the Most Expensive FIFA Tournament in History.
The costs incurred are almost 20 times the funds spent by Russia to host the 2018 World Cup.
But economically, the World Cup is also predicted to provide many advantages for Qatar.
Estimated that during the world cup, will be around 1.2 million visitors come and watch live at the stadium.
And will add revenue for the Qatar economy to $17 billion.

Btw, I hope there will be a new world champion outside that has won the world cup before.
It's always a bit of a gamble for the hosting country, sometimes they spend way too much preparing and building stadiums, etc, and then the money they collected is just not enough to cover those costs.

An interesting point is that in Qatar there's a ban on alcohol, which is one of the areas in which hosts make the most money from.

We'll have to wait and see how it goes.
Qatar is not a nation who lacks money, they have plenty of money and they do not worry about anything regarding the finances of this deal. The only thing they want to achieve is to look good to Europe and nothing more. With this tournament there would be a lot of people who will see a fake Qatar that is understanding and loving, and that’s not going to be the case as we all know.

The reality is much darker, but they will shade it white to look cute towards world powers and its citizens. I have seen this a lot in other sports and that’s why I won't buy it, but there will be plenty of people who would, this money spent is like advertisement, it’s not to make sure they profit, it’s there to promote Qatar to world stage.
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Qatar spent a lot of money to build and make its stadium and infrastructure very attractive. Besides, this World Cup is the first in the region.
Now, how successful will be, will be evaluated throughout the games.
I agree that in this game there isn't a clear favourite, most teams are equivalent with slight advantage for Brazil then Argentina but as everyone knows, in World Cup, you always see surprises and big teams might be eliminated early.
Qatar have build most excellent infrastructure and stadium than other countries have participants to be host in FIFA World Cup, I think one weakness with World Cup 2022 because began almost at the end of years were usually World Cup playin on middle year on June until July. Excitement waiting World Cup in Qatar begin to watch directly how excellent infrastructure and stadium build by Qatar because many ex player not agree with Qatar as host in this World Cup, ever Philip Lahm as ex Germany player want to ban in this time World Cup edition and he doesn't interested to watch in stadium.
legendary
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Qatar spent a lot of money to build and make its stadium and infrastructure very attractive. Besides, this World Cup is the first in the region.
Now, how successful will be, will be evaluated throughout the games.
I agree that in this game there isn't a clear favourite, most teams are equivalent with slight advantage for Brazil then Argentina but as everyone knows, in World Cup, you always see surprises and big teams might be eliminated early.


Btw, I hope there will be a new world champion outside that has won the world cup before.

There is a chance that we will get a new world champion at this world championship, but the chances of that are not great.
The main favorites at this world championship are already the usual national teams that have been world champions several times, such as Brazil, Argentina, France, Germany, Spain...
Of the national teams that have never been world champions, according to predictions, the Netherlands, Belgium and Croatia have the best chances.
At the last world championship in Russia, Croatia lost to France in the final, so there is certainly a chance that we get a new world champion.

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~snip~
The 2022 World Cup is the Most Expensive FIFA Tournament in History.
The costs incurred are almost 20 times the funds spent by Russia to host the 2018 World Cup.
But economically, the World Cup is also predicted to provide many advantages for Qatar.
Estimated that during the world cup, will be around 1.2 million visitors come and watch live at the stadium.
And will add revenue for the Qatar economy to $17 billion.

Btw, I hope there will be a new world champion outside that has won the world cup before.

It's always a bit of a gamble for the hosting country, sometimes they spend way too much preparing and building stadiums, etc, and then the money they collected is just not enough to cover those costs.

An interesting point is that in Qatar there's a ban on alcohol, which is one of the areas in which hosts make the most money from.

We'll have to wait and see how it goes.
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Qatar spent a lot of money to build and make its stadium and infrastructure very attractive. Besides, this World Cup is the first in the region.
Now, how successful will be, will be evaluated throughout the games.
I agree that in this game there isn't a clear favourite, most teams are equivalent with slight advantage for Brazil then Argentina but as everyone knows, in World Cup, you always see surprises and big teams might be eliminated early.

The 2022 World Cup is the Most Expensive FIFA Tournament in History.
The costs incurred are almost 20 times the funds spent by Russia to host the 2018 World Cup.
But economically, the World Cup is also predicted to provide many advantages for Qatar.
Estimated that during the world cup, will be around 1.2 million visitors come and watch live at the stadium.
And will add revenue for the Qatar economy to $17 billion.

Btw, I hope there will be a new world champion outside that has won the world cup before.
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I doubt that anyone will bother to check the pairs of tourists who, although for the sake of formalities, entered the country separately, but walk and sleep together. I know about the conservative nature of this country, but we all understand that any ideology has a huge amount of hypocrisy - if we turn to religion, then all these "entertainment" games/competitions are not encouraged by the radicals. But nevertheless, Qatar wants to hold this tournament and wants to attract tourists. I am sure that tourists informally will behave very freely during the World Cup, although formal restrictions will allegedly take place.
I think need respect about culture in Qatar and not make the same with other countries allowed with alcoholic and some thing bad based on culture in Qatar. I don't sure this reason seem controversy and need to debate, based on religion in some countries we need respect and did which one allowed and left with some rule not allowed in Qatar. Simple I see what rule have applicated by Qatar government and I think this time World Cup begin more luxurious than held in other country before. I don't see reason about Qatar try to make difficult for tourist in this World Cup because they have make all easy if each other side understood about rule and culture there.

On the one hand, I completely agree with you that a foreign culture must be respected (since they are in their own country and do not impose it on you). But on the other hand, this is a controversial issue, since football has its own culture and football is international, which means that part of the global culture (which directly contradicts the culture of Qatar) is inseparable from football.
In general, I do not understand why Qatar was so eager to get the right to host the World Cup in the presence of such contradictions.
Why didn't they think of buying from Germany the right to host the annual Oktoberfest and ban beer because of their internal rules? That would be comparable logic.
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