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Ronaldo is 37 years old and this maybe the last time that he is wearing the Portuguese national jersey. So anyway the team need to find new blood to replace Ronaldo. And there are a number of promising players emerging. But I don't think that anyone among them have the capability to fill the vacuum that will be left by CR7. I still remember the hype that surrounded Ronaldo when he played during Euro 2004. And remember the Battle of Nuremberg (2006)? Ronaldo was a big name by then. None of the younger players (Diogo Jota, André Silva, Rafael Leão.etc) can generate the same amount of hype now.

Yeah, I think the new superstar will come from another country. We'll see which team brings younger players, and hopefully there will be a surprise discovery this world cup. We need more superstars as the current ones are getting old and retiring soon.

But then, some of the most promising youngsters are not taking part in this tournament. Erling Håland from Norway is one of them. Norway couldn't qualify this time. Milan Škriniar from Slovakia, Marco Verratti from Italy, Luis Diaz from Colombia and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang from Gabon are some of the promising players who won't be part of the 2022 FIFA World Cup. Feels bad about these players.. but that's how it works. Hopefully their absence won't be felt and we will witness the rise of other younger players.
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In terms of the quality of their players, they are still very good for the current world cup, but for the problem of dependence, especially for the Portugal national team, it must be reduced a little because their dependence on Ronaldo is still greater than Argentina.
Indeed, in this case we know that the figures of Ronaldo and Messi are still vital for each country, but they must also be aware that this kind of dependence actually prevents other players from developing bigger.
Even Ronaldo and Messi both are vital for their teams but mostly now their teams are not fully depended on them with too many youngsters and better quality players are still available and doing much better which is helpful for these teams as well, but presence of these players are doing good part for them and their moral is also very high which is good for them in this event.

Messi is surely a legendary player and now this time he is here for his final event and want to win which is possible but things surely favoring him as well because their squad is also good and have ability but on other side Ronaldo is not having luxury like Messi, and they just can go through until last eight if they have done something special otherwise their job going to end in last 16.
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@rahmad2nd I found an article of last year which says that Bruno performs better for Portugal when Ronaldo isn’t playing, which proves that without Ronaldo Portugal will be better in the long run however for this World Cup his experience may come handy.

Also since Ronaldo is being benched for Manchester United we’ll have to see how well he does in this World Cup, and on the other hand Messi is back in form but I doubt that he alone can take Argentina to the finals, hence my favourite team to lift the World Cup continues to be Brazil.

Bruno Fernandes is an Attacking Midfielder, his position in the Portugal squad is very much needed, some of the notes on his Portugal contribution are impressive. as well as when he played at his club man united. in 6 matches with man united, he contributed 1 goal against southampton.
On several occasions, Portugal won against Switzerland 4 -0 in the absence of Ronaldo. however in the away match Portugal lost 1-0. In this year's World Cup, Bruno and Ronaldo will work together again to contribute to their national squad.

As for Argentina, currently Messi is no longer carrying out a heavy task with his Argentina squad. he will play like he played in his club psg. Teamwork will be Argentina's strategy in this World Cup.

On the other hand, brazil is the favorite to be a champion candidate.
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OK.. this is new information for me. I didn't knew that Qatar are the Asian champions. I checked the stats and found out that they defeated Japan (1-3) to lift the 2019 AFC Asian Cup. And before that they defeated the United Arab Emirates in the semi-finals by a margin of 4-0. Won against South Korea 1-0 in the QF stage as well. These are some of the strongest teams in Asia. If Qatar can win against these teams, then it means that they are not as weak as we have thought. Looking at the results, I believe that they have a good chance against Senegal, and to some degree against Ecuador as well.

Yes, Qatar is not just any team, nor is it a princess team, we all know very well that Qatar can beat Senegal and obviously Ecuador, Ecuador for me played a very good role in the qualifiers, but only at the beginning and that only it was enough to stay in the qualifying positions, but really some other teams like Chile, Colombia deserved it even more than Ecuador, so for me it would be gratifying if Qatar could win and go to the round of 16, also because they are at home, they probably want to continue advancing , as you said, they beat JKapon in 2019 and Japan is one of the big ones in Asia...


How are you so sure that Qatar can beat Ecuador easily especially Senegal, from FIFA rankings Senegal is ranked 18th and Qatar is ranked 49th. This difference shows a very significant difference, that statistically the players are of different quality.
I must admit that Qatar's football development has progressed quite significantly, they played well in the Asian tournament as well as in the Arab Cup competition, and Qatar is the champion of the AFC ASIAN CUP 2019, Qatar can overthrow Japan with a landslide score of 1-3.

Nevertheless, Qatar's chances of qualifying from the preliminary group stage are not easy. I'm not sure they can overthrow Senegal let alone the Netherlands.
we agree, there is no guarantee, anything can happen as long as the game runs 2×45 minutes. However, Ecuador is also not a weak team as we think, Ecuador can play Brazil with a draw, against Argentina with a draw. Ecuador remains to be reckoned with.

Well, it is not to discredit any team, for me Senegal is one of the African teams that I like the most, I cannot deny that my favorite is Nigeria, but unfortunately they did not qualify, and with respect to Ecuador too, I have seen them play in the stadium, and when comparing with all the teams, I think that Qatar has a lot of opportunity here, and against Senegal what they play against is that player No. 12, and I mean the public, for sure they will have many fans supporting Qatar In addition, he is the owner of the house and being the host of such a big event because he has some privileges, maybe they want to see them in the round of 16, a second round that they pass would satisfy everyone, I think, but of course it is only my speculation, For me, Senegal has a lot of quality and they play very well. I really hope that they show that level of attractive African football that many people in the world fall in love with.

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Ronaldo is 37 years old and this maybe the last time that he is wearing the Portuguese national jersey. So anyway the team need to find new blood to replace Ronaldo. And there are a number of promising players emerging. But I don't think that anyone among them have the capability to fill the vacuum that will be left by CR7. I still remember the hype that surrounded Ronaldo when he played during Euro 2004. And remember the Battle of Nuremberg (2006)? Ronaldo was a big name by then. None of the younger players (Diogo Jota, André Silva, Rafael Leão.etc) can generate the same amount of hype now.

Yeah, I think the new superstar will come from another country. We'll see which team brings younger players, and hopefully there will be a surprise discovery this world cup. We need more superstars as the current ones are getting old and retiring soon.

The truth is somewhat uncertain, I couldn't say if it could come from another country, one country in particular sounds a lot like me, and it's Germany, I don't know why, Brazil also sounds familiar to me, and it's always been like that, all over the world it comes out a star from those countries in particular, just like France, these countries may have the next promises of football and it is in particular a very good thing, I also have a slight feeling that a super star will come from Crocia apart from Modric, that country always hides a great soccer and they shine in all the world cups, Holland is a clear candidate to reach the final of the world cup, and obviously many star players can be there.
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Ronaldo is 37 years old and this maybe the last time that he is wearing the Portuguese national jersey. So anyway the team need to find new blood to replace Ronaldo. And there are a number of promising players emerging. But I don't think that anyone among them have the capability to fill the vacuum that will be left by CR7. I still remember the hype that surrounded Ronaldo when he played during Euro 2004. And remember the Battle of Nuremberg (2006)? Ronaldo was a big name by then. None of the younger players (Diogo Jota, André Silva, Rafael Leão.etc) can generate the same amount of hype now.

Yeah, I think the new superstar will come from another country. We'll see which team brings younger players, and hopefully there will be a surprise discovery this world cup. We need more superstars as the current ones are getting old and retiring soon.
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Yes, sometimes that seems a little true. But on the other hand, without Ronaldo, Portugal has some difficulty in reaching the goal. So he can play better but he doesn't have goals.

Fortunately for Portugal, there are some advanced players emerging who can start to make a difference in that field and not be so dependent on Ronaldo's goals.

Ronaldo is 37 years old and this maybe the last time that he is wearing the Portuguese national jersey. So anyway the team need to find new blood to replace Ronaldo. And there are a number of promising players emerging. But I don't think that anyone among them have the capability to fill the vacuum that will be left by CR7. I still remember the hype that surrounded Ronaldo when he played during Euro 2004. And remember the Battle of Nuremberg (2006)? Ronaldo was a big name by then. None of the younger players (Diogo Jota, André Silva, Rafael Leão.etc) can generate the same amount of hype now.
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Yes, sometimes that seems a little true. But on the other hand, without Ronaldo, Portugal has some difficulty in reaching the goal. So he can play better but he doesn't have goals.

Fortunately for Portugal, there are some advanced players emerging who can start to make a difference in that field and not be so dependent on Ronaldo's goals.

Yeah, but I don't believe they will be at the required level to lift the trophy. I think Portugal will perform alright, maybe go to the next round, but at maximum maybe reach semis, not father than that.
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Ronaldo was at his peak 4 years ago at the World Cup in Russia, but it still wasn't enough for Portugal to come even close to a chance to fight for the title of world champion.
Ronaldo today is not even a shadow of that Ronaldo from 4 years ago and realistically Portugal is not one of the favorites of this world championship.
I think the situation is very similar with Argentina and Messi.
In my opinion, the main favorites of this world championship are Brazil and France, and Spain, Germany and England also have good chances.
I believe the Portuguese national team and the Argentine team can still play well without Ronaldo and Messi. Both Ronaldo and Messi are past their prime. They cannot to be expected to play and put up the kind of shows we were used to seeing whenever they play. These two legends still have a lot to offer in the Argentine and Portuguese team respectively. .
In terms of the quality of their players, they are still very good for the current world cup, but for the problem of dependence, especially for the Portugal national team, it must be reduced a little because their dependence on Ronaldo is still greater than Argentina.
Indeed, in this case we know that the figures of Ronaldo and Messi are still vital for each country, but they must also be aware that this kind of dependence actually prevents other players from developing bigger.
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@rahmad2nd I found an article of last year which says that Bruno performs better for Portugal when Ronaldo isn’t playing, which proves that without Ronaldo Portugal will be better in the long run however for this World Cup his experience may come handy.

Yes, sometimes that seems a little true. But on the other hand, without Ronaldo, Portugal has some difficulty in reaching the goal. So he can play better but he doesn't have goals.

Fortunately for Portugal, there are some advanced players emerging who can start to make a difference in that field and not be so dependent on Ronaldo's goals.
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Ronaldo was at his peak 4 years ago at the World Cup in Russia, but it still wasn't enough for Portugal to come even close to a chance to fight for the title of world champion.
Ronaldo today is not even a shadow of that Ronaldo from 4 years ago and realistically Portugal is not one of the favorites of this world championship.
I think the situation is very similar with Argentina and Messi.
In my opinion, the main favorites of this world championship are Brazil and France, and Spain, Germany and England also have good chances.
I believe the Portuguese national team and the Argentine team can still play well without Ronaldo and Messi. Both Ronaldo and Messi are past their prime. They cannot to be expected to play and put up the kind of shows we were used to seeing whenever they play. These two legends still have a lot to offer in the Argentine and Portuguese team respectively. .

however, because messi and ronaldo are still involved in this year's world cup tournament, their contribution is still very much needed by their respective country squads, both argentina or portugal, until the time comes for them to retire. Regarding the heyday of both Messi and Ronaldo I think it depends on one's perspective to see it.

IMO, messi is luckier than ronaldo, messi's performance is still very good, he is still a core player with the PSG squad. proved he took an important role and contributed greatly to his club.
Bad luck befell ronaldo, i do not doubt his greatness even at his current age. but his selfishness makes his performance decline.  well, so basically, both messi and ronaldo are still very much needed by their squad to compete in this year's world cup tournament.

@rahmad2nd I found an article of last year which says that Bruno performs better for Portugal when Ronaldo isn’t playing, which proves that without Ronaldo Portugal will be better in the long run however for this World Cup his experience may come handy.

Also since Ronaldo is being benched for Manchester United we’ll have to see how well he does in this World Cup, and on the other hand Messi is back in form but I doubt that he alone can take Argentina to the finals, hence my favourite team to lift the World Cup continues to be Brazil.
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I believe the Portuguese national team and the Argentine team can still play well without Ronaldo and Messi. Both Ronaldo and Messi are past their prime. They cannot to be expected to play and put up the kind of shows we were used to seeing whenever they play. These two legends still have a lot to offer in the Argentine and Portuguese team respectively. .
What i want you to know is that football have a duration of performance, and that time of duration of performance reach or occur when the players are younger, what is affecting the players you mentioned now being messi and Ronald is old age, those strength and energy they have that time has being drop from the system, so we don't need to blame them because i know that age matters in football
Agreed with your all statement every good thing has to go with time so right now same situation for these legendary players now they can't give their best, but their presence is surely had some good impact on team and youths which are now going to have to start their best for next few years Messi and Ronaldo were best in last few world cups but right now they are contribution only for the honor or giving good respect to their next generation which will take these spots from them.

With this all situation no one can blame these or many other players those serve their countries in all conditions and have good performance for them as well this rule is no applying only in soccer this is going to be applying for everywhere so no matter of shame or blame it's circle of life which will be going like this even after us.
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Ronaldo was at his peak 4 years ago at the World Cup in Russia, but it still wasn't enough for Portugal to come even close to a chance to fight for the title of world champion.
Ronaldo today is not even a shadow of that Ronaldo from 4 years ago and realistically Portugal is not one of the favorites of this world championship.
I think the situation is very similar with Argentina and Messi.
In my opinion, the main favorites of this world championship are Brazil and France, and Spain, Germany and England also have good chances.
I believe the Portuguese national team and the Argentine team can still play well without Ronaldo and Messi. Both Ronaldo and Messi are past their prime. They cannot to be expected to play and put up the kind of shows we were used to seeing whenever they play. These two legends still have a lot to offer in the Argentine and Portuguese team respectively. .
Heard that they both are going to play their last world cup match
Is this correct?
IF so than this will be an end to the golden era and people are surely going to miss these legends and surely they are both going to give their best in respective teams


There is no official confirmation, but considering the ages of Ronaldo and Messi, I think it is unlikely that we will see them at the next World Cup. I think Qatar will be their last World Cup.
Honestly, I'm not too worried about Portugal and Argentina. Portugal had a football star Eusebio even before Ronaldo and Argentina also had their football star, Maradona, so I'm sure after Ronaldo and Messi retire from football we will see some new football greats in Portugal and Argentina. These are great soccer nations that have always had great players and national teams, and there is no need to worry about their future.
In any case, it will be interesting to see how much Ronaldo and Messi can help their national teams in their last World Cup. Can they go all the way and take the title? Very difficult.
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Ronaldo was at his peak 4 years ago at the World Cup in Russia, but it still wasn't enough for Portugal to come even close to a chance to fight for the title of world champion.
Ronaldo today is not even a shadow of that Ronaldo from 4 years ago and realistically Portugal is not one of the favorites of this world championship.
I think the situation is very similar with Argentina and Messi.
In my opinion, the main favorites of this world championship are Brazil and France, and Spain, Germany and England also have good chances.
I believe the Portuguese national team and the Argentine team can still play well without Ronaldo and Messi. Both Ronaldo and Messi are past their prime. They cannot to be expected to play and put up the kind of shows we were used to seeing whenever they play. These two legends still have a lot to offer in the Argentine and Portuguese team respectively. .

however, because messi and ronaldo are still involved in this year's world cup tournament, their contribution is still very much needed by their respective country squads, both argentina or portugal, until the time comes for them to retire. Regarding the heyday of both Messi and Ronaldo I think it depends on one's perspective to see it.

IMO, messi is luckier than ronaldo, messi's performance is still very good, he is still a core player with the PSG squad. proved he took an important role and contributed greatly to his club.
Bad luck befell ronaldo, i do not doubt his greatness even at his current age. but his selfishness makes his performance decline.  well, so basically, both messi and ronaldo are still very much needed by their squad to compete in this year's world cup tournament.
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I believe the Portuguese national team and the Argentine team can still play well without Ronaldo and Messi. Both Ronaldo and Messi are past their prime. They cannot to be expected to play and put up the kind of shows we were used to seeing whenever they play. These two legends still have a lot to offer in the Argentine and Portuguese team respectively. .

Portugal and Argentina may be able to play well, but they stand no chance against teams such as Brazil of Ronaldo and Messi are not present in the team. Apart from the tactical disadvantage, there is going to be the psychological disadvantage as well. If a player such as Ronaldo is there in the XI, then the opposition team members would be entirely focused on that player. This would allow the other players in the team to play more freely. Just look at the stats. Check the performance of Portugal team when Ronaldo is not in the XI.
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I believe the Portuguese national team and the Argentine team can still play well without Ronaldo and Messi. Both Ronaldo and Messi are past their prime. They cannot to be expected to play and put up the kind of shows we were used to seeing whenever they play. These two legends still have a lot to offer in the Argentine and Portuguese team respectively. .
What i want you to know is that football have a duration of performance, and that time of duration of performance reach or occur when the players are younger, what is affecting the players you mentioned now being messi and Ronald is old age, those strength and energy they have that time has being drop from the system, so we don't need to blame them because i know that age matters in football

Some players can play extremely well even after their late thirties. But yeah, usually their peak is around 24 or so.

It will be a great to see the last world cup of these amazing players
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I believe the Portuguese national team and the Argentine team can still play well without Ronaldo and Messi. Both Ronaldo and Messi are past their prime. They cannot to be expected to play and put up the kind of shows we were used to seeing whenever they play. These two legends still have a lot to offer in the Argentine and Portuguese team respectively. .
What i want you to know is that football have a duration of performance, and that time of duration of performance reach or occur when the players are younger, what is affecting the players you mentioned now being messi and Ronald is old age, those strength and energy they have that time has being drop from the system, so we don't need to blame them because i know that age matters in football
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Ronaldo was at his peak 4 years ago at the World Cup in Russia, but it still wasn't enough for Portugal to come even close to a chance to fight for the title of world champion.
Ronaldo today is not even a shadow of that Ronaldo from 4 years ago and realistically Portugal is not one of the favorites of this world championship.
I think the situation is very similar with Argentina and Messi.
In my opinion, the main favorites of this world championship are Brazil and France, and Spain, Germany and England also have good chances.
I believe the Portuguese national team and the Argentine team can still play well without Ronaldo and Messi. Both Ronaldo and Messi are past their prime. They cannot to be expected to play and put up the kind of shows we were used to seeing whenever they play. These two legends still have a lot to offer in the Argentine and Portuguese team respectively. .
Heard that they both are going to play their last world cup match
Is this correct?
IF so than this will be an end to the golden era and people are surely going to miss these legends and surely they are both going to give their best in respective teams
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Ronaldo was at his peak 4 years ago at the World Cup in Russia, but it still wasn't enough for Portugal to come even close to a chance to fight for the title of world champion.
Ronaldo today is not even a shadow of that Ronaldo from 4 years ago and realistically Portugal is not one of the favorites of this world championship.
I think the situation is very similar with Argentina and Messi.
In my opinion, the main favorites of this world championship are Brazil and France, and Spain, Germany and England also have good chances.
I believe the Portuguese national team and the Argentine team can still play well without Ronaldo and Messi. Both Ronaldo and Messi are past their prime. They cannot to be expected to play and put up the kind of shows we were used to seeing whenever they play. These two legends still have a lot to offer in the Argentine and Portuguese team respectively. .
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But Christian Ronaldo is not good enough to win this world cup alone for his team because now age factor is also having big impact on him, and he can't do things like which he has done few years back for his team right now if Portugal is going into last eight then surely it's going to be big achievement for them.

Let's see later what tactics and strategies Fernando Santos will use for his Portugal squad. and how he prepares for the Portuguese squad. if santos still uses the same strategy only relying on ronaldo, then i believe that portugal will experience difficulties in every match later.
Portugal actually has a fairly even depth of players, on the attack line there are Diago Jota, Andre Silva, Ronaldo. In the midfield there are Bernardo Silva, Vintinha, Rafael Leao, Bruno Fernandes. In defense there are Nuno Mendes, Pepe, Dalot, Danilo Pereira.  with these players, they should have a chance to get into the top 8.

Spain, France and England are surely best teams with their quality and players those can do something amazing to win this year's event.

Brazil, Argentina, are the best team based on their match statistics and have very talented players. these two teams are the strongest candidates, compared to England or Spain.

Argentina's team is very strong in this World Cup, the youngsters in their team are playing very well. Besides, they have world class players in their team. It seems that this is Messi's last World Cup and everyone will want to at least do something for Messi. However, there is nothing to look down on other teams. We are all waiting for the World Cup.


We never underestimate any participant from any country who will compete in the world cup, even for several teams from Asian countries that participated in this year's world cup tournament. which in fact, in terms of skills, talents, strategies, are far less than other participants from European or Latino countries.

Well, talking about messi, i'm not sure that this year's world cup is his last world cup in his participation in his national event. there is no official statement that he conveys to date, neither does his rival ronaldo, there is no official claim and statement stating that this year's world cup is the last world cup for them.
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To be honest, I do not understand this closeness at all. If Qatar is interested in attracting as many football fans/tourists as possible, then they should show everywhere that everything is ready and lure potential visitors. Maybe the preparation for the World Cup is not so good and they hide it?

Very surprised by the discussion that has unfolded about what can be considered an alcoholic drink and what is not, hehe. Another confirmation of the fact that there is very little purely football news from Qatar.
Everyone is so excited about the world cup match - there is a lot discussion before even the teams have landed for the tournament.
Lots of excitement and lots of stuff to look at how will Qatar be dealing with the tournament and the guest and teams and non islamic culture

Yeah, it will definitely be interesting to see what's going to happen in Qatar, will they simply sell alcohol? That's what happened in Brazil, they changed a law that prevented selling alcohol inside the stadiums. Probably something similar will happen in Qatar.
I think Qatar will host the World Cup in the biggest way this year. They have made many new rules this time which some like and some don't like. As far as I can tell you have banned alcohol. New technology is being added to the ball of the game. In fact, we have to wait for a few more days to see how these things affect the World Cup in Qatar.
This is a very good conversation from all of you and the points being raised are to be viewed critically as well. All eyes are on Qatar truly, so they can't afford to disappoint. They bade for this and have been preparing for the best world cup ever in collaboration and cooperation with FIFA. And as much as they will respect the secularity of the gathering, their own culture and religion must be preserved as well. As for me, aside from the newer technology to be seen, I don't expect much excitement from this year's world cup.
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