Topic: 280 BTC total bets between Micon and mrb (are BFL ASICs real?) - page 20. (Read 46443 times)
February 14, 2013, 06:29:11 PM
Any comment on my bet proposal, 1:1 on units in customer's hands by the end of March and 350+MH/J?
February 14, 2013, 06:24:51 PM
I am here to bet Bryan, you are not.
Here's the bet: 2000 BTC. Escrowed. BFL will ship a working ASIC to at least 5 customers is 2013.
Here's the bet: 2000 BTC. Escrowed. BFL will ship a working ASIC to at least 5 customers is 2013.
1) I am willing to bet up to 20 coins right now with you. Escrow-ed of course, because your demeanor is that of an angry child, I certainly would never trust you with the quarter you gave me. your totally irrational response "bet 100x as much as you suggested at vague and vastly different terms or you are a scammer" is as transparent as it is desperate. Your denial is palpable, and it's your hubris that will destroy you in both your business and personal life. I pity you more than anything.
2) aren't you supposed to be bumping something other than my betting threads?
3) JoshZerlan.com for all your Josh Zerlan-facing needs. Get trolled the right way bucko - with google results for your first and last name.
February 14, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
I am here to bet Bryan, you are not.
Here's the bet: 2000 BTC. Escrowed. BFL will ship a working ASIC to at least 5 customers is 2013.
Here's the bet: 2000 BTC. Escrowed. BFL will ship a working ASIC to at least 5 customers is 2013.
February 14, 2013, 06:12:16 PM
Here are my terms: 2000 BTC. Escrowed. BFL will ship a working ASIC to at least 5 customers is 2013.
I can't make it any simpler for you. Since you are apparently not taking me up on the bet, Brian Micon is hereby confirmed to be a liar and a scammer by claiming that BFL is a scam with no evidence, no proof and the fact that you are unwilling to back your statements by accepting the bet. Your little caveats and escape hatches mean nothing to me, Bryan. You have proven yourself to be a liar repeatedly. Show me I am wrong by taking the bet.
This is official: Brian Micon is a liar and a scammer. This is proven (unlike Bryan's claims) by the fact that he is unwilling to bet on his unfounded, unproven position without introducing a number of escape clauses and caveats. I will retract this statement when he escrows 2000 BTC for the bet.
I can't make it any simpler for you. Since you are apparently not taking me up on the bet, Brian Micon is hereby confirmed to be a liar and a scammer by claiming that BFL is a scam with no evidence, no proof and the fact that you are unwilling to back your statements by accepting the bet. Your little caveats and escape hatches mean nothing to me, Bryan. You have proven yourself to be a liar repeatedly. Show me I am wrong by taking the bet.
This is official: Brian Micon is a liar and a scammer. This is proven (unlike Bryan's claims) by the fact that he is unwilling to bet on his unfounded, unproven position without introducing a number of escape clauses and caveats. I will retract this statement when he escrows 2000 BTC for the bet.
ok, it's pretty clear you didn't come here to bet, only to troll.
JoshZerlan.com for more info on this extremely delusional human.
February 14, 2013, 06:08:45 PM
Here are my terms: 2000 BTC. Escrowed. BFL will ship a working ASIC to at least 5 customers is 2013.
I can't make it any simpler for you. Since you are apparently not taking me up on the bet, Brian Micon is hereby confirmed to be a liar and a scammer by claiming that BFL is a scam with no evidence, no proof and the fact that you are unwilling to back your statements by accepting the bet. Your little caveats and escape hatches mean nothing to me, Bryan. You have proven yourself to be a liar repeatedly. Show me I am wrong by taking the bet.
This is official: Brian Micon is a liar and a scammer. This is proven (unlike Bryan's claims) by the fact that he is unwilling to bet on his unfounded, unproven position without introducing a number of escape clauses and caveats. I will retract this statement when he escrows 2000 BTC for the bet.
I can't make it any simpler for you. Since you are apparently not taking me up on the bet, Brian Micon is hereby confirmed to be a liar and a scammer by claiming that BFL is a scam with no evidence, no proof and the fact that you are unwilling to back your statements by accepting the bet. Your little caveats and escape hatches mean nothing to me, Bryan. You have proven yourself to be a liar repeatedly. Show me I am wrong by taking the bet.
This is official: Brian Micon is a liar and a scammer. This is proven (unlike Bryan's claims) by the fact that he is unwilling to bet on his unfounded, unproven position without introducing a number of escape clauses and caveats. I will retract this statement when he escrows 2000 BTC for the bet.
February 14, 2013, 05:58:13 PM
No, you were offered a 1000 BTC bet and you turned it down. I will offer you the same bet:
2000 BTC that BFL will ship a working ASIC to 5 customers (or more) in 2013. Simple and to the point. You claim BFL is a scam, ergo according to you BFL will not ship a working ASIC ever (since that is the very definition of a scam). If you refuse to take this bet, then you are liar and a scammer, plain and simple.
All these little caveats and "excepts" are bullshit CYA on your part. You claim BFL is a scam, so put up or shut up. 2000 BTC, escrowed. That's the challenge. Fail to meet the challenge and you are a liar and attention seeking whore and nothing more. You are a professional poker player. You claim this is a sure thing, so a 2000 BTC bet is nothing for you to make, since you're holding the nuts, or at least think you are.
2000 BTC that BFL will ship a working ASIC to 5 customers (or more) in 2013. Simple and to the point. You claim BFL is a scam, ergo according to you BFL will not ship a working ASIC ever (since that is the very definition of a scam). If you refuse to take this bet, then you are liar and a scammer, plain and simple.
All these little caveats and "excepts" are bullshit CYA on your part. You claim BFL is a scam, so put up or shut up. 2000 BTC, escrowed. That's the challenge. Fail to meet the challenge and you are a liar and attention seeking whore and nothing more. You are a professional poker player. You claim this is a sure thing, so a 2000 BTC bet is nothing for you to make, since you're holding the nuts, or at least think you are.
and we have backpedal #1. Notice how when a gentleman is setting terms for a wager, there is no need for name-calling, baiting, or taunting. These are things you learned in old western movies, not how the real gambling world works.
I will restate the offer, which you will not likely accept:
Josh Zerlan is hereby challenged to 20 bitcoin wager
I will bet 20 coins via C's escrow method that the following statement is false:
by the end of 3/15/2013, five or more bitcointalk users will post pix of their working BFL machines. BFL will achieve 350+ Mhash/joule on the hardware shipped.
no reason to offer a ~ USD $25,000 bet with favorable terms. If I were using Josh Zerlan logic, I would call Josh Zerlan a scammer in bold because you typed a statement that gave BFL the entire year when you posted on the BFL forums that your chips were already at the bumping facility. Certainly you will have 5 users worth shipped by the end of this month.
But I'm not going to do that. I'm simply going to offer you a simple, reasonably sized wager, which Josh Zerlan will likely continue not to accept and instead backpedal somewhere between blatant denial and outright trolling.
February 14, 2013, 05:33:55 PM
Boy wish I had more coin.
February 14, 2013, 04:35:22 PM
No, you were offered a 1000 BTC bet and you turned it down. I will offer you the same bet:
2000 BTC that BFL will ship a working ASIC to 5 customers (or more) in 2013. Simple and to the point.
2000 BTC that BFL will ship a working ASIC to 5 customers (or more) in 2013. Simple and to the point.
Are you serious? Holy crap man, talk about padding. What is that 18 months from the time you guys opened your pre-order window? How would BFL survive insolvency or legal attack for that long if they continued this unbroken streak of
February 14, 2013, 04:13:15 PM
No, you were offered a 1000 BTC bet and you turned it down. I will offer you the same bet:
2000 BTC that BFL will ship a working ASIC to 5 customers (or more) in 2013. Simple and to the point. You claim BFL is a scam, ergo according to you BFL will not ship a working ASIC ever (since that is the very definition of a scam). If you refuse to take this bet, then you are liar and a scammer, plain and simple.
All these little caveats and "excepts" are bullshit CYA on your part. You claim BFL is a scam, so put up or shut up. 2000 BTC, escrowed. That's the challenge. Fail to meet the challenge and you are a liar and attention seeking whore and nothing more. You are a professional poker player. You claim this is a sure thing, so a 2000 BTC bet is nothing for you to make, since you're holding the nuts, or at least think you are.
2000 BTC that BFL will ship a working ASIC to 5 customers (or more) in 2013. Simple and to the point. You claim BFL is a scam, ergo according to you BFL will not ship a working ASIC ever (since that is the very definition of a scam). If you refuse to take this bet, then you are liar and a scammer, plain and simple.
All these little caveats and "excepts" are bullshit CYA on your part. You claim BFL is a scam, so put up or shut up. 2000 BTC, escrowed. That's the challenge. Fail to meet the challenge and you are a liar and attention seeking whore and nothing more. You are a professional poker player. You claim this is a sure thing, so a 2000 BTC bet is nothing for you to make, since you're holding the nuts, or at least think you are.
February 14, 2013, 04:12:39 PM
Also willing to bet BFL will not ship by 3/15 (ides of March) Sgt Spike
If anyone has offers, such as "hey Micon, i'll bet you my 50 coins vs. your 25 coins that BFL ships at least 5 customers 350 Mhash/Joule+ ASIC devices pictured, tested, and working by the end of March" go ahead and throw them out here.
Don't let trolls in this thread deter you from offering something. All bets made so far have been very Gentleman-like between the bettors. Contrary to some early trolls, there is nothing wrong with putting something out there and having the other side say no. Also, nothing wrong with quick negotiation of terms so both sides are happy with the bet (until it settles
so if anyone wants some near-term BFL will ship action, I'm open to suggestions and very much want to take the "BFL won't ship in near-term" side.
Edit: I read that backwards. Changes highlightedIf anyone has offers, such as "hey Micon, i'll bet you my 50 coins vs. your 25 coins that BFL ships at least 5 customers 350 Mhash/Joule+ ASIC devices pictured, tested, and working by the end of March" go ahead and throw them out here.
Don't let trolls in this thread deter you from offering something. All bets made so far have been very Gentleman-like between the bettors. Contrary to some early trolls, there is nothing wrong with putting something out there and having the other side say no. Also, nothing wrong with quick negotiation of terms so both sides are happy with the bet (until it settles
so if anyone wants some near-term BFL will ship action, I'm open to suggestions and very much want to take the "BFL won't ship in near-term" side.
Hell, I'll take you up on that if it's a serious offer.
I will bet my
Interested?
February 14, 2013, 03:57:21 PM
well, chips must have just been opened by a pen-knife at the bumping facility. That's the only reason I can find for Josh Zerlan's sudden disappearance.
http://youtu.be/6McLXorvIUM?t=58s
http://youtu.be/6McLXorvIUM?t=58s
February 14, 2013, 03:44:05 PM
Also willing to bet BFL will not ship by 3/15 (ides of March) Sgt Spike
If anyone has offers, such as "hey Micon, i'll bet you my 50 coins vs. your 25 coins that BFL ships at least 5 customers 350 Mhash/Joule+ ASIC devices pictured, tested, and working by the end of March" go ahead and throw them out here.
Don't let trolls in this thread deter you from offering something. All bets made so far have been very Gentleman-like between the bettors. Contrary to some early trolls, there is nothing wrong with putting something out there and having the other side say no. Also, nothing wrong with quick negotiation of terms so both sides are happy with the bet (until it settles
so if anyone wants some near-term BFL will ship action, I'm open to suggestions and very much want to take the "BFL won't ship in near-term" side.
If anyone has offers, such as "hey Micon, i'll bet you my 50 coins vs. your 25 coins that BFL ships at least 5 customers 350 Mhash/Joule+ ASIC devices pictured, tested, and working by the end of March" go ahead and throw them out here.
Don't let trolls in this thread deter you from offering something. All bets made so far have been very Gentleman-like between the bettors. Contrary to some early trolls, there is nothing wrong with putting something out there and having the other side say no. Also, nothing wrong with quick negotiation of terms so both sides are happy with the bet (until it settles
so if anyone wants some near-term BFL will ship action, I'm open to suggestions and very much want to take the "BFL won't ship in near-term" side.
Just gonna quote the above for the inevitable back peddling that Bryan Micon is sure to do later.
So now it's "I very much want to take the 'BFL won't ship near-term' side." which is a far cry from "BFL is a scam! I am positive!"
See, if Bryan Micon wasn't a liar, then taking a bet for near term, long term, forever-term would be a no brainer. But since he's unwilling to do that, he's clearly demonstrating the fact that he lied from the beginning. It's fortunate you all are doing escrow with these bets, since he has a history of welching on his contracts and deals in the past and is a known poker scammer.
Anyone willing to do bets with him should definitely do escrow or he'll rip you off.
Josh Zerlan is hereby challenged to 20 bitcoin wager
1) this is a betting thread. Josh Zerlan - feel free to bet me 20 coins personally, using C's escrow technology (like all of my booked bets in this thread, dick) - that's around $500 - let's set the date for 3/15 that BFL achieves 350 Mhash/joule and 5 customers report receiving and post pix. Or are you just trolling up this thread? BTC COMMUNITY - WATCH THIS - JOSH ZERLAN WILL VERY LIKELY NOT ESCROW-BET ME. Start backpeddling
2) and when are done backpeddling, you will end up back at JoshZerlan.com, and this video of you acting completely unprofessional, taking your BTCtalk personal into real live: http://youtu.be/UlWrmIqGs3Y?t=2m24s
February 14, 2013, 03:41:58 PM
Haha by the end of the month is the only thing Bryan Micon, the "professional poker player" is willing to wager now. From "It's definitely a scam! No doubt about it!" to "Well, by the end of the month." in the span of a month.
Wrong answer.
How about...
"As COO of said company I personally guarantee that we'll ship by the end of the month and as such I accept your bet sir."
February 14, 2013, 03:39:20 PM
Haha by the end of the month is the only thing Bryan Micon, the "professional poker player" is willing to wager now. From "It's definitely a scam! No doubt about it!" to "Well, by the end of the month." in the span of a month.
yikes.
this is what I mean by "don't be deterred by the random trolling in this thread"
Josh Zerlan is the troll's IRL name from the above post. If you guys are wondering why a BFL representative has resorted to trolling my bet thread (over and over again) here is some information on him:
1) when I asked Josh at CES 2013 to show me the box of fans & heat sinks: http://youtu.be/UlWrmIqGs3Y?t=2m24s
2) JoshZerlan.com for all your Josh Zerlan needs.
3) my BFL investigation thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136392.0
February 14, 2013, 03:35:34 PM
Also willing to bet BFL will not ship by 3/15 (ides of March) Sgt Spike
If anyone has offers, such as "hey Micon, i'll bet you my 50 coins vs. your 25 coins that BFL ships at least 5 customers 350 Mhash/Joule+ ASIC devices pictured, tested, and working by the end of March" go ahead and throw them out here.
Don't let trolls in this thread deter you from offering something. All bets made so far have been very Gentleman-like between the bettors. Contrary to some early trolls, there is nothing wrong with putting something out there and having the other side say no. Also, nothing wrong with quick negotiation of terms so both sides are happy with the bet (until it settles
so if anyone wants some near-term BFL will ship action, I'm open to suggestions and very much want to take the "BFL won't ship in near-term" side.
If anyone has offers, such as "hey Micon, i'll bet you my 50 coins vs. your 25 coins that BFL ships at least 5 customers 350 Mhash/Joule+ ASIC devices pictured, tested, and working by the end of March" go ahead and throw them out here.
Don't let trolls in this thread deter you from offering something. All bets made so far have been very Gentleman-like between the bettors. Contrary to some early trolls, there is nothing wrong with putting something out there and having the other side say no. Also, nothing wrong with quick negotiation of terms so both sides are happy with the bet (until it settles
so if anyone wants some near-term BFL will ship action, I'm open to suggestions and very much want to take the "BFL won't ship in near-term" side.
Just gonna quote the above for the inevitable back peddling that Bryan Micon is sure to do later.
So now it's "I very much want to take the 'BFL won't ship near-term' side." which is a far cry from "BFL is a scam! I am positive!"
See, if Bryan Micon wasn't a liar, then taking a bet for near term, long term, forever-term would be a no brainer. But since he's unwilling to do that, he's clearly demonstrating the fact that he lied from the beginning. It's fortunate you all are doing escrow with these bets, since he has a history of welching on his contracts and deals in the past and is a known poker scammer.
Anyone willing to do bets with him should definitely do escrow or he'll rip you off.
February 14, 2013, 03:31:52 PM
Also willing to bet BFL will not ship by 3/15 (ides of March) Sgt Spike
If anyone has offers, such as "hey Micon, i'll bet you my 50 coins vs. your 25 coins that BFL ships at least 5 customers 350 Mhash/Joule+ ASIC devices pictured, tested, and working by the end of March" go ahead and throw them out here.
Don't let trolls in this thread deter you from offering something. All bets made so far have been very Gentleman-like between the bettors. Contrary to some early trolls, there is nothing wrong with putting something out there and having the other side say no. Also, nothing wrong with quick negotiation of terms so both sides are happy with the bet (until it settles
so if anyone wants some near-term BFL will ship action, I'm open to suggestions and very much want to take the "BFL won't ship in near-term" side.
If anyone has offers, such as "hey Micon, i'll bet you my 50 coins vs. your 25 coins that BFL ships at least 5 customers 350 Mhash/Joule+ ASIC devices pictured, tested, and working by the end of March" go ahead and throw them out here.
Don't let trolls in this thread deter you from offering something. All bets made so far have been very Gentleman-like between the bettors. Contrary to some early trolls, there is nothing wrong with putting something out there and having the other side say no. Also, nothing wrong with quick negotiation of terms so both sides are happy with the bet (until it settles
so if anyone wants some near-term BFL will ship action, I'm open to suggestions and very much want to take the "BFL won't ship in near-term" side.
February 14, 2013, 03:31:13 PM
Haha by the end of the month is the only thing Bryan Micon, the "professional poker player" is willing to wager now. From "It's definitely a scam! No doubt about it!" to "Well, by the end of the month." in the span of a month.
February 14, 2013, 11:10:20 AM
I am sorry but Micon was wrong from the start, but the CES event was epic.
BFL FTW cha-ching
Our group expects to be mining by the end of the month at the very least. Just hoping bumping is going well.
BFL FTW cha-ching
Our group expects to be mining by the end of the month at the very least. Just hoping bumping is going well.
Will book 20 more coins that you are not mining BFL ASIC chips running at 350+ Mhash/Joule by the end of the month.
If anyone is interested we can get some C's tool escrow codes.
February 14, 2013, 10:23:34 AM
I am sorry but Micon was wrong from the start, but the CES event was epic.
BFL FTW cha-ching
Our group expects to be mining by the end of the month at the very least. Just hoping bumping is going well.
BFL FTW cha-ching
Our group expects to be mining by the end of the month at the very least. Just hoping bumping is going well.
Will book 20 more coins that you are not mining BFL ASIC chips running at 350+ Mhash/Joule by the end of the month.
If anyone is interested we can get some C's tool escrow codes.
February 14, 2013, 05:05:49 AM
Has anything ever gone well for a BFL timeline?
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