50 Hardware Wallets, compared feature by feature - page 3.

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Quote from: SFR10 on March 06, 2024, 08:04:48 AM

Thank you... For some reason, I can't find a way to manually enter any discount codes ^{[quite weird]}, and despite seeing on the cart page that "discounts are calculated at checkout", the following discount link didn't have any impact on the price

I tried the same thing and it didn't work so I think discount code already expired. Tongue

Maybe maxirosson will have another discount on thebitcoinhole website.

They released a new blog article from Portal, with a strange subtitle - Why is it so BIG? Wink

https://twenty-two.xyz/blog/why-you-are-all-wrong/

Quote from: maxirosson on March 06, 2024, 08:26:27 PM

Updated hardware wallets data on the website, comparing now 55 different Hardware Wallets.

I can't keep up with all the changes in hardware wallet world, but OneKey clearly retired two of their wallets.
All their customers will probably stop receiving updates soon, as most of them probably purchased only 1 year support Tongue

I don't see much difference with in OneKey Classic 1S wallet, except higher price, different secure element and different battery.

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Updated hardware wallets data on the website, comparing now 55 different Hardware Wallets.
- Added new OneKey Pro
- Added new OneKey Classic 1S
- Discontinued OneKey Classic
- Discontinued OneKey Mini

SFR10

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Quote from: maxirosson on March 05, 2024, 04:24:03 PM

Thanks for the feedback. I couldn't reproduce it, but probably the amount of data in the table is starting to be huge, mainly on the hardware wallets screen. I am planning to implement any kind of pagination, so the website can support more items.

You're very welcome

I'm not sure what you did yesterday, but I'm no longer experiencing the issue in question ^{[the lag used to be around the header area only]}, so perhaps there's no need for the above implementation yet ^{[the current one-page design is great for using the Ctrl + F]}.

Quote from: dkbit98 on March 05, 2024, 06:10:31 PM

That is true, but most modern smartphones have NFC this days, even cheap models.

You're right ^{[it could be an option for a lot of users]}, but as someone who only uses extreme/tough rugged phone cases, I prefer not to remove my phone case to have a smooth experience with a hardware wallet ^{[I had a lot of bad experiences for changing such phone cases in the past (e.g. Breaking the phone case or chipping a small part of my previous phones)]}.

Quote from: dkbit98 on March 05, 2024, 06:10:31 PM

Nice find!
I will try it later to confirm if it works,

Thank you... For some reason, I can't find a way to manually enter any discount codes ^{[quite weird]}, and despite seeing on the cart page that "discounts are calculated at checkout", the following discount link didn't have any impact on the price:

Code:

https://store.twenty-two.xyz/discount/LOSTEMPIRE

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Quote from: maxirosson on March 04, 2024, 03:23:25 PM

I don't like the shape. I would prefer something more similar to a credit card shape.

Shape of this device looks like a key, and that is part of their logo also, so I understand why they choose to make it like this.
I don't fully understand how NFC device can have screen power, but I think that some smartphones usually have ring shape coils inside for charging.
So there is no secure elements in Portal?

Quote from: SFR10 on March 05, 2024, 09:53:07 AM

Unfortunately, that also means it's not going to work with certain types of phone cases.

That is true, but most modern smartphones have NFC this days, even cheap models.

Quote from: SFR10 on March 05, 2024, 09:53:07 AM

There's a 22% discount code ^[LOSTEMPIRE] for those who might be interested in purchasing this product.

Nice find!
I will try it later to confirm if it works, but I am not sure if they are sending devices from Europe or United States.

Quote from: maxirosson on March 05, 2024, 04:19:18 PM

- OLED Screen / 0.91" / 126 x 64 px

Very small tiny screen, like I expected Tongue

But I think most of operations will be conducted on smartphone anyway.

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Thanks for the feedback. I couldn't reproduce it, but probably the amount of data in the table is starting to be huge, mainly on the hardware wallets screen. I am planning to implement any kind of pagination, so the website can support more items.

Quote from: SFR10 on March 05, 2024, 09:53:07 AM

Did you make any other changes to the tables ^{[specifically hardware and software tables]}? For some reason, it keeps lagging when I try to scroll down from the very top section in Google Chrome ^{[I couldn't replicate it in Tor, Firefox, and Microsoft Edge browsers]}.

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Updated all the Portal Hardware Wallet specs on the website.

- 135 x 65 x 5 mm, 30g
- OLED Screen / 0.91" / 126 x 64 px
- Mainnet, Testnet, Signet and Regtest support
- Firmware upgraded through NFC
- Open source: https://github.com/TwentyTwoHW/portal-hardware
- Alphanumeric PIN entered via mobile app
- 12/24 words support
- Taproot addresses support
- Miniscript and mutisig support

and more.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on March 04, 2024, 01:14:29 PM

and it is connected with smartphone via NFC connection.

Unfortunately, that also means it's not going to work with certain types of phone cases.

Quote from: dkbit98 on March 04, 2024, 01:14:29 PM

Portal is currently being offered as pre-sale for €89

There's a 22% discount code ^[LOSTEMPIRE] for those who might be interested in purchasing this product.

Quote from: maxirosson on March 04, 2024, 08:02:42 PM

I added Portal hardware wallet to the website.

Did you make any other changes to the tables ^{[specifically hardware and software tables]}? For some reason, it keeps lagging when I try to scroll down from the very top section in Google Chrome ^{[I couldn't replicate it in Tor, Firefox, and Microsoft Edge browsers]}.

Quote from: maxirosson on March 04, 2024, 08:02:42 PM
Still waiting for a response from the TwentyTwo team, to complete the missing data.
While you're waiting for them to respond, you can safely change the question mark on the testnet to yes ^{["here's someone who's using it" with the Padawan wallet (a testnet-only wallet)]}.

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I added Portal hardware wallet to the website. Still waiting for a response from the TwentyTwo team, to complete the missing data.

Quote from: maxirosson on March 04, 2024, 03:23:25 PM

I love the idea of a NFC wallet with screen without any kind of batteries.

I don't like the shape. I would prefer something more similar to a credit card shape.

I already contacted them on Twitter, so I can add their wallet ASAP.

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I love the idea of a NFC wallet with screen without any kind of batteries.

I don't like the shape. I would prefer something more similar to a credit card shape.

I already contacted them on Twitter, so I can add their wallet ASAP.

Quote from: dkbit98 on March 04, 2024, 01:14:29 PM

@maxirosson what do you think about newly announced open source hardware wallet called Portal, made by TwentyTwo?
This looks like interesting new concept of device that works without cables or batteries, and it is connected with smartphone via NFC connection.
One thing I noticed on their video is small screen that probably can't show complete bitcoin address at once.
Portal is currently being offered as pre-sale for €89 and delivery should be expected in Q3 of this year, unless something unexpected happens.

Good thing about it is that everything is released as open source even hardware schematics:
https://github.com/TwentyTwoHW/portal-hardware

https://twenty-two.xyz/

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@maxirosson what do you think about newly announced open source hardware wallet called Portal, made by TwentyTwo?
This looks like interesting new concept of device that works without cables or batteries, and it is connected with smartphone via NFC connection.
One thing I noticed on their video is small screen that probably can't show complete bitcoin address at once.
Portal is currently being offered as pre-sale for €89 and delivery should be expected in Q3 of this year, unless something unexpected happens.

Good thing about it is that everything is released as open source even hardware schematics:
https://github.com/TwentyTwoHW/portal-hardware

https://twenty-two.xyz/

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Quote from: SFR10 on December 10, 2023, 08:26:40 AM

Just noticed one of the hardware wallets that only supported their utility token on its launch, is now supporting Bitcoin ^{[and a few others]} as well: KleverSafe

Thanks. Added to the backlog

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Now you can see the Bitcoin Address formats supported by each hardware wallet: legacy, nested segwit, native segwit and taproot.

https://twitter.com/thebitcoinhole/status/1755297662780236253

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Quote from: RickDeckard on January 15, 2024, 04:46:06 PM

Red flags all over the place - Both their privacy policy[1] and terms of use[2] are mostly copied from Coinkite own privacy policy[4] and terms of use[5].

I didn't have time to research their website deeper but there was something fishy from start.
They are offering 40% fake discount and normal price for this device would be $500... that is crazy high price.
When I first saw device I thought it was just design fork of ledger nono X, but I compared the screen and there is a difference.

ledger X vs Safeguard display:

vs

Their twitter page is full of rnadom crypto news, and there is one carton video posted on their youtube channel,
they are talking more about ledger and other hardware wallets than about their own device:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_SMwtA12Z4

Quote from: RickDeckard on January 15, 2024, 04:46:06 PM

Also, if you hover into their application links for Android and iOS (notice that the acronym is badly spelled)

I think they are based in China, they are often making spelling mistakes like this.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on January 15, 2024, 04:17:04 PM

I found another hardware wallet Safeguard BVKey but I am not sure if they just cloned and slightly modified ledger device and made it more expensive:
https://safeguardvault.me/products/bvkey/

Red flags all over the place - Both their privacy policy[1] and terms of use[2] are mostly copied from Coinkite own privacy policy[4] and terms of use[5]. I wasn't able to find any association of this product within Coinkite website and store[5] so I am just assuming that this was ill intended. If you click on their "Subscribe" button here[6] a random e-mail appears as well ([email protected]) which gives the idea that this was a rushed project.

Also, if you hover into their application links for Android and iOS (notice that the acronym is badly spelled) it will take you to a "fir.xcxwo.com" domain which is another red flag since it will take you to a shady webpage (belonging to China[7]) where it will present you a QR Code that probably will infect the device where you install it. I wouldn't touch this device with a stick (even while wearing a thin hat).

[1]https://safeguardvault.me/privacy/
[2]https://safeguardvault.me/terms/
[3]https://coinkite.com/privacy
[4]https://coinkite.com/terms-of-use
[5]https://store.coinkite.com/store
[6]https://safeguardvault.me/faq/
[7]https://urlscan.io/result/6a74ab74-03da-4d05-b399-7c6110c12839/

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Quote from: maxirosson on January 14, 2024, 10:06:53 AM

- Added Frostnap hardware wallet

I don't know what to think about this new Frostnap device, and can we even call it a hardware wallet.
We don't have any substantial information about specs or price, except one early photo preview and text how everything should work in theory.

I found another hardware wallet Safeguard BVKey but I am not sure if they just cloned and slightly modified ledger device and made it more expensive:
https://safeguardvault.me/products/bvkey/

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Quote from: maxirosson on January 14, 2024, 10:06:53 AM

- Now you can see the latest version and release date of each hardware wallet firmware.

Here are a few of the missing versions with their release dates:

- Ledger Nano S Plus = v1.1.1 ^{[January 8, 2024]}
- Ledger Nano S Plus = v2.2.3 ^{[October 19, 2023]}
- Ellipal Titan Mini = v3.11.0 ^[?]
- Ellipal Titan 2.0 = v3.12.0 ^[?]
- D'CENT Biometric Wallet = v2.30.1 ^{[December 18, 2023]}
- NGrave Zero = v1.4.1 ^{[January 2024]}
- Safepal S1 = v1.0.54 ^{[November 29, 2023]}
- Safepal S1 Pro = v1.0.54 ^{[November 29, 2023]}
- Safepal X1 = v1.0.4 ^{[November 29, 2023]}

Quote from: maxirosson on January 14, 2024, 10:06:53 AM

- Added Frostnap hardware wallet

Quite interesting... In case you missed my "previous post", there's another one that's missing from your list.

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Some news about the website in the last weeks:
- Now you can see the latest version and release date of each hardware wallet firmware.
- Added Frostnap hardware wallet
- New features added:
- Support to view receive address as QR
- Support to view receive address as Text
- Support to export receive addresses to SDcard
- Support to verify receive address from QR

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Quote from: dkbit98 on December 26, 2023, 12:22:51 PM

Quote from: maxirosson on December 25, 2023, 04:14:57 PM

Thanks for the idea. Could you give me more info so I can analyze it? Those websites you mention, for example. I am trying to focus on self-custody, so I want to be sure those additions are a good idea or not.

This would be more like a way to spend Bitcoin on websites and services where Bitcoin is not accepted directly.
For example of gift cards there are websites like thebitcoincompany.com, bitrefill.com and maybe few others, that can be used to purchase this cards without kyc.
As for debit cards there are both kyc and no-kyc, virtual and physical, some of them are issues by centralized exchanges or other by companies.

Few examples I found in bitcointalk forum:
1. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-gift-cards-providers-5208530
2. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/v2-big-list-of-crypto-debit-cards-5473572

Ok. Sounds interesting but I would prefer to keep my focus on products related to self custody.

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Quote from: maxirosson on December 25, 2023, 04:14:57 PM

Thanks for the idea. Could you give me more info so I can analyze it? Those websites you mention, for example. I am trying to focus on self-custody, so I want to be sure those additions are a good idea or not.

This would be more like a way to spend Bitcoin on websites and services where Bitcoin is not accepted directly.
For example of gift cards there are websites like thebitcoincompany.com, bitrefill.com and maybe few others, that can be used to purchase this cards without kyc.
As for debit cards there are both kyc and no-kyc, virtual and physical, some of them are issues by centralized exchanges or other by companies.

Few examples I found in bitcointalk forum:
1. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-gift-cards-providers-5208530
2. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/v2-big-list-of-crypto-debit-cards-5473572

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 24, 2023, 09:42:16 PM

I get a bit confused in terms of making comparisons - especially if one wallet type is not next to the one that I am trying to compare, or having to scroll across several pages horizontally to be able to see the comparisons in which I am interested.

Sure, I see the ability to filter various categories, but could there be a way to either select favorites (and then compare favorites) or maybe just a click box in the right upper corner to compare specific ones that are clicked (or the box could allow for the placement of a number value such as 1, 2, 3 and then the wallets would be sorted in accordance with the number that the user types in the box.. all the 1s would go next to each other, all the 2s next to each other, but after the 1s, and the ones without numerical assignment in their box would come last)..

Maybe being able to compare up to 10 or more at a time.. or if they are put in the order that the user-chooses, then maybe all of them can be compared and prioritized by the user.. and then that would end up allowing an ability for the user to order the wallets in a personalized way..- to customize which ones are next to each other if scrolling through the comparisons?

Hi. Thanks for the feedback. On the filters section you have the ability to filter by wallet name so that you can pick your favorites.

Maybe you can explain a little bit better how I would achieve such a result to compare 5-10 wallets side by side and in one glance rather than typing in and presumptively looking at one named wallet at a time.

Let's say for example, I wanted to compare: 1) Jade, 2) Coldcard Mk4, 3) Bitbox02 (BTC ONLY), 4) Keystone 3 Pro, 5) Passport Batch 2, 6) Trezor Model T, 7) SafePal S1 Pro Cool

SafePal S1 Pro 9) KeepKey and 10) CoolWalletPro.

Then how would I accomplish such side-by-side comparison of those specific 10 HWs?

What I am suggesting is to put some kind of a check box or even a number ranking so that I can rank them myself and be able to see the ones that I choose side by side. Do you see what I mean? Is such a thing already possible? If not, can you see how it would be user-friendly to be able to achieve a customized selection of side-by-side comparisons?

You can see the step-by-step in this video I posted on Twitter
https://twitter.com/thebitcoinhole/status/1732846389367906370

Basically, you need to go to Filters -> Basic Information -> Name and then pick all the wallets you want to compare.

Oh? Thanks. now I am feeling dumb. I see it now. Within basic information there is a drop down menu on the "name" button in which I can select the wallets from within that dropdown menu that I might want to compare.

So yes, that is exactly what I was trying to say that I wanted to be able to do, but I could not figure out a way to get to that point.. .. until now.. I do think that it might be better to change the descriptor to something like "compare by name" rather than just saying "name" or some other way of highlighting that compare feature a bit better, because some people (similar to me) might get overwhelmed by how many wallets there are, and just end up leaving the site and yes if they are on a phone or other small-screened device then maybe they can only compare a few wallets at a time..

Now that I know how to do it.. I am going to feel more empowered to make comparisons in the other sections that you list too, such as nodes or software wallets.

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