Topic: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. - page 6. (Read 81547 times)
April 22, 2019, 06:32:31 PM
April 21, 2019, 04:10:52 PM
these do pull higher watts but are hashing at 30.25 avg. They dont really have any HW errors in hwinfo. I kinda misspoke you are right, the ultra low watt 470s hash lower at 26.5-27.5 with reduced clock but are under 100w, with something like 0.825v core. I remember wolf going 0.75v or something on this forum and achieving really low power usage but I cant come close to it. Of course some cards are shit and dont cooperate. These are either MSI armor/gaming x 470 or mining edition nitro 470. Im curious to real actual power usage but yeah thats pretty much it, they are my favorite gpus.
For the real power or at the wall you have to add ~30 W. So in your case I would say it's nearly 100 W for a 470. But it's quite nice
April 21, 2019, 09:10:29 AM
these do pull higher watts but are hashing at 30.25 avg. They dont really have any HW errors in hwinfo. I kinda misspoke you are right, the ultra low watt 470s hash lower at 26.5-27.5 with reduced clock but are under 100w, with something like 0.825v core. I remember wolf going 0.75v or something on this forum and achieving really low power usage but I cant come close to it. Of course some cards are shit and dont cooperate. These are either MSI armor/gaming x 470 or mining edition nitro 470. Im curious to real actual power usage but yeah thats pretty much it, they are my favorite gpus.
April 21, 2019, 01:36:59 AM
470 you can run for 55-60w (gpuz core so 85-90w i guess) for 30mhs I still think thats very good. I did the 1+8 bios reset trick yesterday and resurrected a bad flash on an armor 470. was fun and works well,although be careful most pics on the internet show pins 1 and 5, not 1 and 8 for some reason
Don't know which GPU you are talking about but you can't run an RX 470 4GB at 30MH/s (Max is maybe 29) and it will not use only 90Watts from the wall, the lowest I've been able to achieve from the wall subtracting CPU+MOBO power usage is 120 Watts or so.
Going any lower on the voltage resulted in crashes and going any higher on the memory clock resulted in hardware errors. So the typical RX 470 gets like 28.5 MH/s and uses 120 Watts or so. With XMR you can use like 110 Watts and it hashes at 1000 H/s so depending on the day, it might be more profitable than ETH.
April 20, 2019, 02:00:43 PM
Using ETHash as reference for mining cards comparison is sooo 2017...
Nowadays you can't throw all cards of all brands into the same bucket and say "this one's the winner!". Especially ETHash that's now basically an ASIC-plagued algo.
Nowadays you can't throw all cards of all brands into the same bucket and say "this one's the winner!". Especially ETHash that's now basically an ASIC-plagued algo.
April 20, 2019, 10:40:34 AM
you are poor and then you are rich and then you are poor again and then you are rich again 
it is pretty enlightening isn't it?
you must figure something out...always have a plan
meanwhile zotac 1080ti extreme fans can be pulled off, it was some very fine dust that can make the fans get a hard time spinning, just clean with alcohol and then apply some oil (a drop or two) will get it going.
it is pretty enlightening isn't it?
you must figure something out...always have a plan
meanwhile zotac 1080ti extreme fans can be pulled off, it was some very fine dust that can make the fans get a hard time spinning, just clean with alcohol and then apply some oil (a drop or two) will get it going.
April 20, 2019, 09:34:54 AM
470 you can run for 55-60w (gpuz core so 85-90w i guess) for 30mhs I still think thats very good. I did the 1+8 bios reset trick yesterday and resurrected a bad flash on an armor 470. was fun and works well,although be careful most pics on the internet show pins 1 and 5, not 1 and 8 for some reason
April 19, 2019, 10:48:24 PM
Nvidia priced the cards this gen way too high. I'm waiting for hopefully more sane pricing next gen, and will sell off my 1080tis (which are most my cards) 3-4 months before next gen launches hopefully for $400.
Recently bought some Z11 miners.
AMD might be best price perf, but not worth it due to insane depreciation and lack of flexibility for things like vasi.ai
Recently bought some Z11 miners.
AMD might be best price perf, but not worth it due to insane depreciation and lack of flexibility for things like vasi.ai
April 19, 2019, 09:21:15 PM
Link to thread 7
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/happy-new-years-seventh-alt-coin-thread-2674194
I self modded the thread. I will simply delete nasty attacks on each other about the good or bad of asics vs gpus vs fpgas.
I want focus to be on how to survive the shift.
Do I go all asics?
Do I sell all gpus?
Do I go diverse?
My position is the industry needs to be widespread as possible to create demand for coins.
This year I am no longer focusing on what gear to use.
But how to expand my cheap reliable power.
We know some people can not do this and some can.
My gear today is
16x 1080tis
1rx 560
1rx 460
1 1050ti
13 moonlander usb ltc sticks
12 Antminer L3+ with jstenop low watt software.
5 Hanlong T1
3 Avalon 841
2 ⅔ S-9
https://eggpool.net/index.php?action=miner&miner=b70ba25f241b6e4a888710fa06f1fae1f6fb309954da8a5e424a1b22
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/happy-new-years-seventh-alt-coin-thread-2674194
I self modded the thread. I will simply delete nasty attacks on each other about the good or bad of asics vs gpus vs fpgas.
I want focus to be on how to survive the shift.
Do I go all asics?
Do I sell all gpus?
Do I go diverse?
My position is the industry needs to be widespread as possible to create demand for coins.
This year I am no longer focusing on what gear to use.
But how to expand my cheap reliable power.
We know some people can not do this and some can.
My gear today is
16x 1080tis
1rx 560
1rx 460
1 1050ti
13 moonlander usb ltc sticks
12 Antminer L3+ with jstenop low watt software.
5 Hanlong T1
3 Avalon 841
2 ⅔ S-9
https://eggpool.net/index.php?action=miner&miner=b70ba25f241b6e4a888710fa06f1fae1f6fb309954da8a5e424a1b22
April 19, 2019, 09:19:14 PM
could you alter the price on the 1080ti
here it is direct from Evga for 629 not 1250
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-5390-RX
Wow, that is a good price. Corrected.
Newegg is asking some really exorbitant prices on the 1080 Ti
April 19, 2019, 08:10:33 PM
April 19, 2019, 07:33:33 PM
Since we've had a couple of new graphics cards enter the market, I thought it would be nice to see how they compare with current household names.
I went ahead and updated my short list of GPUs efficient at mining Ethereum. If you notice any errors, please let me know so I can correct them.
Partial list arranged by power efficiency (updated as of 5/1/2019):
Newegg $ Power Mh/s W/Mh/s Revenue/day
Radeon VII (Power Efficiency) $679 245 W 89.0 MH/s 2.75 $1.20
GTX 1660 $220 78 W 26.7 Mh/s 2.92 $0.36
GTX 1660 Ti $280 90 W 29.5 Mh/s 3.05 $0.40
Vega 64 (Power Efficiency) $419 160 W 50.0 Mh/s 3.20 $0.68
GTX 1070 $300 105 W 31.0 Mh/s 3.39 $0.42
RX 570 8 GB (Power Efficiency) $139 100 W 30.3 MH/s 3.47 $0.41
GTX 1060 6 GB $200 90 W 22.5 MH/s 4.00 $0.30
RX 580 8 GB $184 135 W 30.2 MH/s 4.47 $0.41
The full comparison is at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w6qQtpwzlKRPSx3hYIpTrO1d29SwAIhOV4CNGi3Jk6Y/edit?usp=sharing
You should be able to copy the spreadsheet to your google drive and then arrange it any way you like.
Based on the figures, I decided to take a deep dive and buy and test the new GTX 1660 Ti as well as the Radeon VII for Ethereum mining performance. I've been very satisfied, but I'm especially thrilled to see the figures Radeon VII makes. At 245W it does a very impressive 89.2 MH/s, and singlehandedly replaced four of my 1060 6GB cards at 22.5MH/s each. After doing some further calculations on power efficiency it looks like it is currently the title holder of the world's most efficient consumer graphics card at mining Ethereum consuming only 2.75W for one MH.
ROI estimations are still not very good for any card, but energy conscious Ethereum miners may be interested in looking at these new graphics cards.
I went ahead and updated my short list of GPUs efficient at mining Ethereum. If you notice any errors, please let me know so I can correct them.
Partial list arranged by power efficiency (updated as of 5/1/2019):
Newegg $ Power Mh/s W/Mh/s Revenue/day
Radeon VII (Power Efficiency) $679 245 W 89.0 MH/s 2.75 $1.20
GTX 1660 $220 78 W 26.7 Mh/s 2.92 $0.36
GTX 1660 Ti $280 90 W 29.5 Mh/s 3.05 $0.40
Vega 64 (Power Efficiency) $419 160 W 50.0 Mh/s 3.20 $0.68
GTX 1070 $300 105 W 31.0 Mh/s 3.39 $0.42
RX 570 8 GB (Power Efficiency) $139 100 W 30.3 MH/s 3.47 $0.41
GTX 1060 6 GB $200 90 W 22.5 MH/s 4.00 $0.30
RX 580 8 GB $184 135 W 30.2 MH/s 4.47 $0.41
The full comparison is at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w6qQtpwzlKRPSx3hYIpTrO1d29SwAIhOV4CNGi3Jk6Y/edit?usp=sharing
You should be able to copy the spreadsheet to your google drive and then arrange it any way you like.
Based on the figures, I decided to take a deep dive and buy and test the new GTX 1660 Ti as well as the Radeon VII for Ethereum mining performance. I've been very satisfied, but I'm especially thrilled to see the figures Radeon VII makes. At 245W it does a very impressive 89.2 MH/s, and singlehandedly replaced four of my 1060 6GB cards at 22.5MH/s each. After doing some further calculations on power efficiency it looks like it is currently the title holder of the world's most efficient consumer graphics card at mining Ethereum consuming only 2.75W for one MH.
ROI estimations are still not very good for any card, but energy conscious Ethereum miners may be interested in looking at these new graphics cards.
April 19, 2019, 02:53:33 PM
New run will come for sure, but more slowly than the last one. Too many panic sellers in the market.
April 19, 2019, 12:13:44 PM
Speaking of a future bull run.. I wonder if it will be like the last one, where "legacy" coins (projects that were out 1+ years before the run) were largely left behind and only "new" projects (<12 months old) will receive a lot of attention.
April 19, 2019, 03:56:57 AM
And I believe that in the coming years Bitcoin will cost $ 50,000 and Ethereum at $ 6,000 to 10,000 dollars. And those who do not buy or will mine today will regret it tomorrow.
All dumps are failing, that tell us something very important. We are having higher lows every passing day.
April 19, 2019, 03:45:54 AM
This might be a repeat however in my opinion, and if BTC ever hit $50000 and ETH hits $2000 then the payouts would of been worth it. However the cycle has to stop sometime.
If btc hits $50k, eth will hit $6k and a possible 10k. Trolls will look in the past and say "why did I not buy eth when it was $170, how stupid I was" hehe.
you certainly can buy and hodl 5 eth coins if you want to. I won't.
April 18, 2019, 08:46:28 PM
This might be a repeat however in my opinion, and if BTC ever hit $50000 and ETH hits $2000 then the payouts would of been worth it. However the cycle has to stop sometime.
If btc hits $50k, eth will hit $6k and a possible 10k. Trolls will look in the past and say "why did I not buy eth when it was $170, how stupid I was" hehe.
you certainly can buy and hodl 5 eth coins if you want to. I won't.
April 18, 2019, 08:44:12 PM
This might be a repeat however in my opinion, and if BTC ever hit $50000 and ETH hits $2000 then the payouts would of been worth it. However the cycle has to stop sometime.
If btc hits $50k, eth will hit $6k and a possible 10k. Trolls will look in the past and say "why did I not buy eth when it was $170?, how stupid I was" hehe
Those trolls are hopeless.
April 18, 2019, 08:39:52 PM
yeah I will do BCI staked for a year and hope for luck.
April 17, 2019, 09:45:16 PM
Been mining MTP and RVN recently with 2 x1060 rigs. Each rig has 10 GPus and I put one on each coin. A couple weeks ago I had one on GRIN and the other on Aeternity. Making about $3- 3.50 per day with both rigs.
I have a 4x 470 rig mining ETH and making about $0.25 per day. It was a 7 GPU rig but I sold 3 for $300 CDN.
I also have a couple T15s, 3 x Baikal G28s, 1 Baikal x10 and 1 L3+ at Cryptoboreas in Labrador.
After electricity:
T15s : $2.80 to $3.10 each per day. (will take over 2 years to ROI/Break even)
G28s: $2.40 - $ 2.90 each per day. (will take close to 2 years to ROI/Break even)
X10: $.90 per day. ( nearly paid for itself. So, as long it makes more than electrical cost and keeps running, it's easy coinage...but not a huge profit.)
All said, profits are low but still in the right direction. Not bad for a hobby.
I have a 4x 470 rig mining ETH and making about $0.25 per day. It was a 7 GPU rig but I sold 3 for $300 CDN.
I also have a couple T15s, 3 x Baikal G28s, 1 Baikal x10 and 1 L3+ at Cryptoboreas in Labrador.
After electricity:
T15s : $2.80 to $3.10 each per day. (will take over 2 years to ROI/Break even)
G28s: $2.40 - $ 2.90 each per day. (will take close to 2 years to ROI/Break even)
X10: $.90 per day. ( nearly paid for itself. So, as long it makes more than electrical cost and keeps running, it's easy coinage...but not a huge profit.)
All said, profits are low but still in the right direction. Not bad for a hobby.
you've definitely got the right attitude, I think we need to consistently remind ourselves this is more of a hobby and if our hobby pays for itself and a little extra.. we are doing good lol
at least that is what I tell myself xD
In the past whenever people were mining as a hobby, usually got enormous payouts if they held most of their coins.
Like the people who CPU mined BTC back in 2009-2010, definately not for profits and difficulty was very low.
Same with the people who GPU mined ETH back in Q4 2015, back then you could of made like 1 ETH per GPU per day and nobody was mining back then because it looked like ETH was a fad that was going to $0.
This might be a repeat however in my opinion, and if BTC ever hit $50000 and ETH hits $2000 then the payouts would of been worth it. However the cycle has to stop sometime.
Bingo!! Ppl who cry about low profits are dumping daily or on small pumps and crying about mining being dead
Why don’t u hold your crypto for a couple of years then see what your profits are
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