There was not a wide debris field.
Eight miles from the crash site is a wide debris field.
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There was not a wide debris field.
Eight miles from the crash site is a wide debris field.
There was not a wide debris field.
Eight miles from the crash site is a wide debris field.
FACT: Experts...
Let's review:
First you claimed that if the plane was shot down, there would have been a wide debris field. After being shown the wide debris field, you then said the wind blew papers and insulation around and that all heavy objects were in the crater. After being shown that at least one engine wasn't in the crater but was about a half mile from it, you post a link to a mass market magazine that also pushed the "wind blew the papers around" theory.
There was not a wide debris field. You are not reading. Anything that you do not agree with is "mass market" , "government data" etc.
The engine WAS in the crater. A single piece of the engine (not the core but the front fan) was 300 yards away in the direction of travel. Makes sense to me.
FACT: Experts...
Let's review:
First you claimed that if the plane was shot down, there would have been a wide debris field. After being shown the wide debris field, you then said the wind blew papers and insulation around and that all heavy objects were in the crater. After being shown that at least one engine wasn't in the crater but was about a half mile from it, you post a link to a mass market magazine that also pushed the "wind blew the papers around" theory.
Engines along with everything else with any weight was in the hole in the ground.
An engine core was 2000 feet from the crater.
Roving Engine
Claim: One of Flight 93's engines was found "at a considerable distance from the crash site," according to Lyle Szupinka, a state police officer on the scene who was quoted in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. Offering no evidence, a posting on Rense.com claimed: "The main body of the engine ... was found miles away from the main wreckage site with damage comparable to that which a heat-seeking missile would do to an airliner."
FACT: Experts on the scene tell PM that a fan from one of the engines was recovered in a catchment basin, downhill from the crash site. Jeff Reinbold, the National Park Service representative responsible for the Flight 93 National Memorial, confirms the direction and distance from the crash site to the basin: just over 300 yards south, which means the fan landed in the direction the jet was traveling. "It's not unusual for an engine to move or tumble across the ground," says Michael K. Hynes, an airline accident expert who investigated the crash of TWA Flight 800 out of New York City in 1996. "When you have very high velocities, 500 mph or more," Hynes says, "you are talking about 700 to 800 ft. per second. For something to hit the ground with that kind of energy, it would only take a few seconds to bounce up and travel 300 yards." Numerous crash analysts contacted by PM concur.
Read more: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - Flight 93 - Popular Mechanics
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/debunking-911-myths-flight-93
What I don't understand from the conspiracy theory angle is that if they did plan it, how did they keep the secret from coming out? Say what you will, governments are not really good about keeping big secrets. And with a false flag operation of this scale surely some documents would have made it to the public.
Conspiracy theorists have no hard evidence, and the fact that there is no hard evidence for their theories speaks a lot by itself.
Conspiracy theorists have no hard evidence, and the fact that there is no hard evidence for their theories speaks a lot by itself.
Engines along with everything else with any weight was in the hole in the ground.
An engine core was 2000 feet from the crater.
So you think that paper and insulation that blew to Indian Lake constitutes a six mile debris field?
Moving the goalposts?
Your original statement:
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A plane shot down would leave debris over a large area
It's well known that Flight 93 left a wide debris field. Full engines don't blow around.
We're all entitled to our opinions. I try to conform my opinion to what's known, not what I want to believe.
Thats right, they don't. Engines along with everything else with any weight was in the hole in the ground.
... you are not entitled to your own facts.
Seems you are only entitled to government "facts".
So I'll reiterate. Please show me one single other airplane impact site/crater than lacked an airplane (excluding the one that went down in the everglades, for obvious reasons). That site is missing a plane, bodies, luggage, debris... etc.
Bodies do tend to turn into vapor when hitting things at 500mph. The debris at the site are quite consistent with what would be expected. Most of the metal is there.
Pretty much all of the wt7 site lies are addressed here including crash sites.
https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/flight93page2
So you think that paper and insulation that blew to Indian Lake constitutes a six mile debris field?
Moving the goalposts?
Your original statement:
Quote
A plane shot down would leave debris over a large area
It's well known that Flight 93 left a wide debris field. Full engines don't blow around.
We're all entitled to our opinions. I try to conform my opinion to what's known, not what I want to believe.
... you are not entitled to your own facts.
Seems you are only entitled to government "facts".
So I'll reiterate. Please show me one single other airplane impact site/crater than lacked an airplane (excluding the one that went down in the everglades, for obvious reasons). That site is missing a plane, bodies, luggage, debris... etc.
A plane shot down would leave debris over a large area
It did leave a debris field over a large area.
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"A second debris field was around Indian Lake about 3 miles from the crash scene. Some debris was in the lake and some was adjacent to the lake. "More debris from the plane was found in New Baltimore, some 8 miles away from the crash. "State police and the FBI initially said they didn't want to speculate whether the debris was from the crash, or if the plane could have broken up in midair." 1
Additionally, Flight 93's debris field covered anywhere from three to six miles and, as CNN reported, pieces of the plane were found six to eight miles from the main impact area: "Authorities also said another debris site had been cordoned off six to eight miles away from the original crash debris site." 2
State police Maj. Lyle Szupinka said investigators also will be searching a pond behind the crash site looking for the other recorder and other debris. If necessary, divers may be brought in to assist search teams, or the pond may be drained, he said.
Szupinka said searchers found one of the large engines from the aircraft "at a considerable distance from the crash site."
"It appears to be the whole engine," he added.
Szupinka said most of the remaining debris, scattered over a perimeter that stretches for several miles, are in pieces no bigger than a "briefcase." 3
http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/flight93site.html
Additionally, Flight 93's debris field covered anywhere from three to six miles and, as CNN reported, pieces of the plane were found six to eight miles from the main impact area: "Authorities also said another debris site had been cordoned off six to eight miles away from the original crash debris site." 2
State police Maj. Lyle Szupinka said investigators also will be searching a pond behind the crash site looking for the other recorder and other debris. If necessary, divers may be brought in to assist search teams, or the pond may be drained, he said.
Szupinka said searchers found one of the large engines from the aircraft "at a considerable distance from the crash site."
"It appears to be the whole engine," he added.
Szupinka said most of the remaining debris, scattered over a perimeter that stretches for several miles, are in pieces no bigger than a "briefcase." 3
http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/flight93site.html
You are entitled to your own opinions.... you are not entitled to your own facts.
So you think that paper and insulation that blew to Indian Lake constitutes a six mile debris field?
A plane shot down would leave debris over a large area
It did leave a debris field over a large area.
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"A second debris field was around Indian Lake about 3 miles from the crash scene. Some debris was in the lake and some was adjacent to the lake. "More debris from the plane was found in New Baltimore, some 8 miles away from the crash. "State police and the FBI initially said they didn't want to speculate whether the debris was from the crash, or if the plane could have broken up in midair." 1
Additionally, Flight 93's debris field covered anywhere from three to six miles and, as CNN reported, pieces of the plane were found six to eight miles from the main impact area: "Authorities also said another debris site had been cordoned off six to eight miles away from the original crash debris site." 2
State police Maj. Lyle Szupinka said investigators also will be searching a pond behind the crash site looking for the other recorder and other debris. If necessary, divers may be brought in to assist search teams, or the pond may be drained, he said.
Szupinka said searchers found one of the large engines from the aircraft "at a considerable distance from the crash site."
"It appears to be the whole engine," he added.
Szupinka said most of the remaining debris, scattered over a perimeter that stretches for several miles, are in pieces no bigger than a "briefcase." 3
http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/flight93site.html
Additionally, Flight 93's debris field covered anywhere from three to six miles and, as CNN reported, pieces of the plane were found six to eight miles from the main impact area: "Authorities also said another debris site had been cordoned off six to eight miles away from the original crash debris site." 2
State police Maj. Lyle Szupinka said investigators also will be searching a pond behind the crash site looking for the other recorder and other debris. If necessary, divers may be brought in to assist search teams, or the pond may be drained, he said.
Szupinka said searchers found one of the large engines from the aircraft "at a considerable distance from the crash site."
"It appears to be the whole engine," he added.
Szupinka said most of the remaining debris, scattered over a perimeter that stretches for several miles, are in pieces no bigger than a "briefcase." 3
http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/flight93site.html
How do you reconcile the obviously fake impact crater of Flight 93 with the theories that government was or was not involved?
If the government was involved, why shoot down the plane and fake an impact crater?
If the government was not involved, why should we believe 100% of the official story after they covered up the shooting down of Flight 93?
The impact crater for flight 93 is consistent with other plane impact craters.If the government was involved, why shoot down the plane and fake an impact crater?
If the government was not involved, why should we believe 100% of the official story after they covered up the shooting down of Flight 93?
Please, show me one single other plane impact crater that looks like the one left by Flight 93. That plane was shot down. This comes from personal conversations with former air force, current commercial pilots.
That does not even take 5 SECONDS of thought. A plane shot down would leave debris over a large area, but the 'truther' movement concentrates their effort on how SMALL the crater is.
Please, show me one single other plane impact crater that looks like the one left by Flight 93. That plane was shot down. This comes from personal conversations with former air force, current commercial pilots.
Even Rumsfeld said it was shot down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0
Are you serious ?
I think this subject deserve more respect than that.
I think this subject deserve more respect than that.
You're not American, are you?
His English and interpretation of the subject matter makes it rather clear. I will go as far as to say his inferiority-complex proves it.
How do you reconcile the obviously fake impact crater of Flight 93 with the theories that government was or was not involved?
If the government was involved, why shoot down the plane and fake an impact crater?
If the government was not involved, why should we believe 100% of the official story after they covered up the shooting down of Flight 93?
The impact crater for flight 93 is consistent with other plane impact craters.If the government was involved, why shoot down the plane and fake an impact crater?
If the government was not involved, why should we believe 100% of the official story after they covered up the shooting down of Flight 93?
Please, show me one single other plane impact crater that looks like the one left by Flight 93. That plane was shot down. This comes from personal conversations with former air force, current commercial pilots.
Are you serious ?
I think this subject deserve more respect than that.
I think this subject deserve more respect than that.
You're not American, are you?
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Are you serious ? I think this subject deserve more respect than that.
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