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Quote from: rachael9385 on November 13, 2023, 05:25:26 PM

Quote from: Lida93 on November 12, 2023, 05:45:42 PM

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Even if the families of the young man did what they did just to stop the man from gambling, then I would say they are trying to help the man, since the gambler can not control himself from gambling, even to the extent of selling their properties to gamble. That means the man had gone too far in terms of gambling, so if the family of the so-called gambler did not do anything about it, then they are endangering their lives because a day might come when the gambler will go outside his area to steal and come back, then gamble with the money.
The family didn't do anything bad, even though they went too far in it. They were trying to protect themselves and their brother, who's an addicted gambler.
However, there has been a topic that quote A Nigerian Father Rejects Son's Gambling Win, so it is not the first and this can not be the last of it.

Very normal thing for a family to do such measures and i agree on some post above that they dont really care on what are the steps or things that they'll be doing as long they could help out one of their members.
Family might not be perfect but we do know on whats the best for us, gambling isnt bad but on the time that they've been seeing that you are really that getting addicted too much because they've obviously see you
that become impulsive into your actions like selling your possession or things just for the sake of gambling then this is a solid indicative sign that you are really that addicted to it.

It might really be that looking too much for some people but for me it is really just that right. Doing things for the sake of someones safety or trying out to stop on whats the worst things could happen
will be always be the wise thing to be done in the first place. I wont really be feeling bad about it if i were that boy who had been addicted, you would really be able to
appreciate on what are the things that they've been doing just for your own sake and safety or trying out to avoid the worst things as possible.

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The family went to some certain extent to help their ward, but that won't be so effective, even if they published his face on famous TV shows. He'd find his way to gamble in a more private manner. Your number 2 question, OP, determines the reaction of the player when in possession of huge amount of money. If he loves his family, nothing stops him from showing them love after making it big in gambling. Especially to teach them that gambling can be good in yielding wealth. But, the reaction of his family isn't conducive by any way because it won't help the player to stop being a compulsive gambler. They're multiple ways of building relation with a friend or brother who is following the wrong route in gambling. They need to create an internal emotional relationship with him, thereby discussing with him about his difficulties and why he's chosen to be such a gambler with little or no regards to the bad effects it brings to his family. Better still refer him to a therapist, that will keep him busy by interacting with him. Embarrassing him in such a way isn't helpful. To me it's embarrassing to publish his pictures all over the neighborhood. This could cause him to be depressed. Friends and colleagues laughing and making mockery of him and the family. I think this will not only affect the boy, but the family members too. Gambling addiction can't be stopped forcefully. Suing the shop owners will only cause them to waste more money; similar to the player using it to gamble. In a nutshell, I don't buy such an embarrassing idea.

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Quote from: Lida93 on November 12, 2023, 05:45:42 PM

During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

Now, while I was quietly listening to the story in my head I began to ask myself several possible questions and one of such questions was; is it not possible that this young man can take a cab away from their location and move to a far area to carry out his gambling since his a compulsive gambler.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

Even if the families of the young man did what they did just to stop the man from gambling, then I would say they are trying to help the man, since the gambler can not control himself from gambling, even to the extent of selling their properties to gamble. That means the man had gone too far in terms of gambling, so if the family of the so-called gambler did not do anything about it, then they are endangering their lives because a day might come when the gambler will go outside his area to steal and come back, then gamble with the money.
The family didn't do anything bad, even though they went too far in it. They were trying to protect themselves and their brother, who's an addicted gambler.
However, there has been a topic that quote A Nigerian Father Rejects Son's Gambling Win, so it is not the first and this can not be the last of it.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on November 13, 2023, 04:27:41 PM

Quote from: Lida93 on November 12, 2023, 05:45:42 PM

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

In my opinion, there is nothing excessive about the actions of this young man's family. Maybe they think that is the best way, even though according to other people there are still many subtle ways including involving the law, but most likely it is the best way in their opinion and for the good of one of their family members. And they also don't want the young man to lose all his possessions with nothing left, even his life if the family doesn't act according to what they think is right.
What we need to know is that there are still many people who commit unreasonable actions for the sake of their loved ones because they think it is the best thing they have ever thought and planned.

And I will share it with the people I care about even if they forbid or oppose my gambling activities, because I can't enjoy what I enjoy if my family doesn't enjoy it too.

Family knows best and it would really be just that right that they would really be doing things no matter how far the extent it would be as long they could be able to help one of their members specially that gambling addiction is a problem on which it cant really be that easily be resolved out once it would shackled you on. This is why it would really be that not a right thing for you to get mad
if you are in the shoes of that particular boy which is on legal age already and tends to gamble. If you dont really make out those kind of behavior in the first place then
your family wont really be that ending up with that kind of approach on which you would really be that be still free and not restricted as of this moment but since they've seen
different then it is really just that a normal act to be done by them.

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Quote from: Lida93 on November 12, 2023, 05:45:42 PM

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

I think the family has the right to help their members to recover from gambling addiction. They have the right to request gambling establishment to ban their addicted gambler member in entering their premise. I do not think that there is any extreme measure in protecting a family member especially when that person is already addicted in gambling.

The action of the family can be said legal depending on the country's law but mostly if there is a request and yet the owner of the casino continuously disregard the request of the family, the family can file a case against that casino but the success of the case is still dependent on the factors and evidences.

Quote from: Lida93 on November 12, 2023, 05:45:42 PM

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

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Why not? It is already given that if we love our family, we should share any blessings or profit we get. Whether they are against my gambling activities or not should not even be the case to forbid us from sharing.

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It's normal for your loved ones to give extreme care most especially that they are your family. They knows what's good and bad for you. And if it means threatening the casinos so they won't let you gamble on their shops, then they will surely do it without hesitation so they can protect you from the danger that this gambling addiction may cause. That's what a family can do even if you see it they have gone too extreme just to protect yourself.

Now if you become lucky and made life changing profits with gambling, are you still supposed to help them? Of course, yes! At the end of the day, the rest of your friends will leave you most especially when you have no money anymore, but your family will stick by your side regardless if you have nothing to give to them. So prioritize helping your family above other people.

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Quote from: Lida93 on November 12, 2023, 05:45:42 PM

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

In my opinion, there is nothing excessive about the actions of this young man's family. Maybe they think that is the best way, even though according to other people there are still many subtle ways including involving the law, but most likely it is the best way in their opinion and for the good of one of their family members. And they also don't want the young man to lose all his possessions with nothing left, even his life if the family doesn't act according to what they think is right.
What we need to know is that there are still many people who commit unreasonable actions for the sake of their loved ones because they think it is the best thing they have ever thought and planned.

And I will share it with the people I care about even if they forbid or oppose my gambling activities, because I can't enjoy what I enjoy if my family doesn't enjoy it too.

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Quote from: 0t3p0t on November 13, 2023, 11:08:25 AM

The gambling establishment or site is for me not liable for any violations regarding the guy who's family is desperate in over protecting him. It is not the gambling establishments fault but the gambler itself specially if they were compliant to the local regulations and permits. That is really alarming since the member of the family that gamble sold his properties just for gambling purposes. Gambling addiction really has nothing to good to bear.

I agree. It's such a big deal because he's a gambler, but what if he was an alcoholic? Would every store be liable if he manages to buy alcohol there? Of course not!
It's not their job to look for him and stop him from entering. It's the family's job to go to court and limit his freedom by placing him in an institution, as they do with drug addicts, alcoholics, mentally ill people.
The problem here does not lie in gambling, but his mental state. The man is obviously mentally ill and needs to be healed, even if it's against his will, because otherwise he'll eventually be forced to steal and that will land him in jail at the expense of the taxpayer.

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Quote from: slapper on November 13, 2023, 12:39:58 PM

Quote from: Broadanbig on November 13, 2023, 11:57:29 AM

At first the young man should have it in mind that his family loves him and would go to any length or extent to making sure he is free from that addiction. No family would see such happening to their loved one and keep mute over it but I think the family took the wrong step in addressing the situation. Why printing his photograph and taking it right to the casinos around. It is not nice to have done such as far as he is over 18 and has the right to freedom of engagements. They took it too far and that alone can make someone abscond because they might feel threatened with that action alone but however it is not a bad idea for his family to intervene in his situation as that is what any individual who has such person in their family would do.

If it happens that he wins big time, I think nothing stops him from extending a hand of gratitude to his family because what they had done to him is just like a mother trying to protect her child from being vulnerable to attacks. So in that case, If I were to be the one in his position of winning, I will make sure I extend hand of kindness to my family.

The family's love and care are clear, but what is their plan? Not sure about it at all. Even though the person who sent his picture to casinos meant well, it was against the law, especially since he is over 18. Even though the act is meant to protect him, it actually takes away his freedom. There are good goals tangled up with actions that aren't clear.

Online gambling is appealing because it is easy to get into and gives the impression of being simple to win. It is a digital trap that is both tempting and dangerous. If he gets a lot of money, he wants to keep gambling even more, not less. Things keep going in a bad circle. Even though his family's actions aren't perfect, they are a desperate attempt to break this loop.

If he gets a lot of money, thanking his family, even though they went too far, is a sign that he understands the mess of feelings and intentions that are going on. It means admitting that love can make people do things that are more safe than useful in the messy and often wrong world of relationships. This is life: it's complicated, messy, and human.

Exaggerating kind of action i should say but its not shocking considering that family could really go into such extent if they are really that serious on trying to stop one of the members to get away with such gambling addiction. I dont know about legal actions or whatsoever in connection with it but if this one is really that something that will really be against freedom then they might be having a problem on that but as long
the other party or individual dont make out some complaints then i dont see for possible legal approaches into this one.It is really just that the actions been made is really just that too much on which coming
into a point thatthey would be needing to print up a family members face and trying out to scatter and say things accordingly.

Its true that it is really that indeed possible that he could go out into that other place and do make some gambling thing if he wanted to but he choses up to stay and do deal up with the current situation.
The family arent aware that if he cant do it physically then there's always a way that he could be able to gamble online on which it is really that more hard to be stopped.

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This an interesting story. Gambling addiction can only stopped by the bearer of the armor and no any other person be a lover or a family member. Someone also created a thread that if a gambler can stop if his wife ask him to stop and if he will not stop gambling she will leave him. As for me all those things are just a threat to an addicted gambler. Those things will never move him. But if he wants to stop, he will stop without someone's influence. Stopping gambling addiction is a drastic decision that a gambler must take. As for me they should not force him to stop because it will worsening the situation. But they can use a polite way for him to stop it. If they print his photograph and pasted it around the betting, will they do the same to all the casinos online? They are just wasting their time. They should allow him to gamble and only advice him to stop.

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Quote from: Lida93 on November 12, 2023, 05:45:42 PM

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

From my own point of view the family did the right thing just to prevent a situation whereby when the gambler ended up bankruptcy he is going to fall back to his family, of course he might ended up frustrated after being bankrupted such that he might not be in his usual self again "prevention is better than cure" it's better to curb his addiction earlier to avoid touching stories.
If I eventually win big in gambling sharing out of the money won to loves ones is necessary despite their opposition to my gambling activities afterall the action they initial took is to prevent me from getting addicted based on the consequences of being a gambling addict.

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Quote from: Lida93 on November 12, 2023, 05:45:42 PM

She told about how the family members of a particular young man that is like a plunger when it comes to gambling, his compulsive gambling is to the length of him selling his personal properties and gadgets to make sure he gambles. So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

They don't have that right to sue the gambling shops, the guy in particular is above 18 and in law, as long as you are above 18 years old, you have a free will to take a decision and nobody will question you for that action if it's not a stolen money he use but even in the case where he used a stolen funds, he is the one they can sue for such action but if the brother is minor, it's very wrong for the shops to let him play in the first place.

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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

That is not the best way to abstain a grown up man for addiction, it will be very wrong for the community to even see his pictures everywhere like an ex convict, you will not be happy if you see your family disgracing you in that manner because you love gambling so much. They should have take him to see a therapist instead.

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2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

Well, it depends but I know for sure that people don't reject money. Family is blood and blood is family, no matter how they wrong me, I will still help them because I can't see them in bad condition while I enjoy money in one location, sure I will be happy to help if I can do it.

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If I were that young man, I would not move to another city to gamble because it would definitely cost more money during the trip and it might also be dangerous if we could win a lot of money. It's better for me to start reducing my gambling activities than to see my photo plastered in every casino, which will definitely make me embarrassed.

But the young man's family went to extremes if they really wanted to spread the young man's photo to every casino in their city to ensure that each casino did not receive visits from the young man and would not allow him to enter their casino. It seemed that the method was completely different from the previous methods, so perhaps it could work to prevent the young man from going to the casino and gambling.

And if I could win the million dollar prize, I would definitely share the money with my loved ones and celebrate with them.

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Quote from: slapper on November 13, 2023, 12:39:58 PM

Quote from: Broadanbig on November 13, 2023, 11:57:29 AM

At first the young man should have it in mind that his family loves him and would go to any length or extent to making sure he is free from that addiction. No family would see such happening to their loved one and keep mute over it but I think the family took the wrong step in addressing the situation. Why printing his photograph and taking it right to the casinos around. It is not nice to have done such as far as he is over 18 and has the right to freedom of engagements. They took it too far and that alone can make someone abscond because they might feel threatened with that action alone but however it is not a bad idea for his family to intervene in his situation as that is what any individual who has such person in their family would do.

If it happens that he wins big time, I think nothing stops him from extending a hand of gratitude to his family because what they had done to him is just like a mother trying to protect her child from being vulnerable to attacks. So in that case, If I were to be the one in his position of winning, I will make sure I extend hand of kindness to my family.

The family's love and care are clear, but what is their plan? Not sure about it at all. Even though the person who sent his picture to casinos meant well, it was against the law, especially since he is over 18. Even though the act is meant to protect him, it actually takes away his freedom. There are good goals tangled up with actions that aren't clear.

Online gambling is appealing because it is easy to get into and gives the impression of being simple to win. It is a digital trap that is both tempting and dangerous. If he gets a lot of money, he wants to keep gambling even more, not less. Things keep going in a bad circle. Even though his family's actions aren't perfect, they are a desperate attempt to break this loop.

If he gets a lot of money, thanking his family, even though they went too far, is a sign that he understands the mess of feelings and intentions that are going on. It means admitting that love can make people do things that are more safe than useful in the messy and often wrong world of relationships. This is life: it's complicated, messy, and human.

Indeed family is love. No one cares much about you more than your family hence family is love. I understand the situation from both sides and they are very much correct in their own actions. In as much as the young man is 18 and above,he has the right to freedom and engagements which is not against the law but that singular action alone could even make it worse by him going solo which would be very dangerous this time because they might think he has stopped it by it would be worse than it was. Sometimes it is not the plans but the approach used in tackling the situation that matters.

Of a truth I know and believe he would say a big thank you to his family if it happens he wins big because I believe he is matured enough to know that his family meant well for him.by taking such steps to curtail his gambling life.

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As his sister took a strick step against his brother who is a gambler I think if he is a loyal person then he will not gamble again but a compulsive gambler never think about his family so I don't think that a gambler will leave the city just because of gambling in new area but first he will tortured his family and after doing all possible tries he will then leave that area but a compulsive gambler is a distress for his family always.

A family always support his brothers and sons but if a gambler never think about his family then everyone wants to live a satisfied life and no one wants that his life become full of sorrows. I think everyone should focus earlier on their children because once a person starts gambling then whatever parents teach them they will never understand. If someone thinks that if he starts gambling then he will become rich then he has a wrong concept because gambling can turn your whole dreams into a life where you will just burrow money from others but will unable to continue your own happy life.

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Quote from: AbuBhakar on November 13, 2023, 12:09:15 PM

Quote from: 0t3p0t on November 13, 2023, 11:08:25 AM

The gambling establishment or site is for me not liable for any violations regarding the guy who's family is desperate in over protecting him. It is not the gambling establishments fault but the gambler itself specially if they were compliant to the local regulations and permits. That is really alarming since the member of the family that gamble sold his properties just for gambling purposes. Gambling addiction really has nothing to good to bear.

The problem is how the judge will look into this incase the family indeed sue them. The betting shop knew the fact of the early warning which is a bit dangerous as a business since you allowed compulsive gambler play while you know it already.

Yes betting shop really have no responsibility to their players if they are legal age but sometimes the court use different approaches on handling cases like this especially if the victim suffer huge losses in the process. But the family really need to lock their member instead of attacking the betting shop that is just doing business.

This case is the reason of why many the betting shop / sites have limits for gamblers to put. in some countries, those limits are required for the shop to have legal status. this is one of many ways to avoid addiction for the gamblers, and to avoid unnecessary cases. There are also limits for losses experienced by a gamblers for a certain duration time.

Betting Shop / sites who dont put those limits are usually untrusted or even illegal shop / sites, because it can be considered as institution who are not responsible for things that potentially happen caused by their business.

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Quote from: Broadanbig on November 13, 2023, 11:57:29 AM

At first the young man should have it in mind that his family loves him and would go to any length or extent to making sure he is free from that addiction. No family would see such happening to their loved one and keep mute over it but I think the family took the wrong step in addressing the situation. Why printing his photograph and taking it right to the casinos around. It is not nice to have done such as far as he is over 18 and has the right to freedom of engagements. They took it too far and that alone can make someone abscond because they might feel threatened with that action alone but however it is not a bad idea for his family to intervene in his situation as that is what any individual who has such person in their family would do.

If it happens that he wins big time, I think nothing stops him from extending a hand of gratitude to his family because what they had done to him is just like a mother trying to protect her child from being vulnerable to attacks. So in that case, If I were to be the one in his position of winning, I will make sure I extend hand of kindness to my family.

The family's love and care are clear, but what is their plan? Not sure about it at all. Even though the person who sent his picture to casinos meant well, it was against the law, especially since he is over 18. Even though the act is meant to protect him, it actually takes away his freedom. There are good goals tangled up with actions that aren't clear.

Online gambling is appealing because it is easy to get into and gives the impression of being simple to win. It is a digital trap that is both tempting and dangerous. If he gets a lot of money, he wants to keep gambling even more, not less. Things keep going in a bad circle. Even though his family's actions aren't perfect, they are a desperate attempt to break this loop.

If he gets a lot of money, thanking his family, even though they went too far, is a sign that he understands the mess of feelings and intentions that are going on. It means admitting that love can make people do things that are more safe than useful in the messy and often wrong world of relationships. This is life: it's complicated, messy, and human.

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OP, I love what you shared, this thread is very good, I hope to see the views and comments of many of us here solving the problem of many of us in terms gambling, the action of this gamblers family might seem so strange and extreme to some people, but for me, I just understand their mindset was to help their brother whom the see, that's going astray in life, to me anything that can be done to help an individual that's an addict in gambling should be done with immediate effect as long as such step does not affect his life in any way.
If eventually the person in question goes extra mind by going to another location to gamble and fortune follow me, he should not forget that his family was trying to help, if they don't like him they won't threaten with such statement of sueing any person that goes contrary against their decision as a family, what his family did should not stop him from helping them if they need it.

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Quote from: 0t3p0t on November 13, 2023, 11:08:25 AM

The gambling establishment or site is for me not liable for any violations regarding the guy who's family is desperate in over protecting him. It is not the gambling establishments fault but the gambler itself specially if they were compliant to the local regulations and permits. That is really alarming since the member of the family that gamble sold his properties just for gambling purposes. Gambling addiction really has nothing to good to bear.

The problem is how the judge will look into this incase the family indeed sue them. The betting shop knew the fact of the early warning which is a bit dangerous as a business since you allowed compulsive gambler play while you know it already.

Yes betting shop really have no responsibility to their players if they are legal age but sometimes the court use different approaches on handling cases like this especially if the victim suffer huge losses in the process. But the family really need to lock their member instead of attacking the betting shop that is just doing business.

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At first the young man should have it in mind that his family loves him and would go to any length or extent to making sure he is free from that addiction. No family would see such happening to their loved one and keep mute over it but I think the family took the wrong step in addressing the situation. Why printing his photograph and taking it right to the casinos around. It is not nice to have done such as far as he is over 18 and has the right to freedom of engagements. They took it too far and that alone can make someone abscond because they might feel threatened with that action alone but however it is not a bad idea for his family to intervene in his situation as that is what any individual who has such person in their family would do.

If it happens that he wins big time, I think nothing stops him from extending a hand of gratitude to his family because what they had done to him is just like a mother trying to protect her child from being vulnerable to attacks. So in that case, If I were to be the one in his position of winning, I will make sure I extend hand of kindness to my family.

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