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November 20, 2023, 11:03:52 AM
Rightly said but there are many gamblers who don't know how to enjoy these wins. They think that once they win they will win more and then lose their control and get greedy. Gambling doesn't always win if you become addicted to betting no matter how much money you have it will end. Once greed works it impairs your judgement leading to unexpected losses so constantly making sure you don't waste money will allow you to improve because it gives you more time to play. If you can control yourself you can bet on a variety of markets with generally favorable odds.
If gamblers think like that, they will only experience bigger losses because greed has told them to continue gambling. Playing gambling must be done with self-control so that you don't lose a lot. If he continues to gamble again later but someone finds out that he could spend a lot of money, it would be better for that person to immediately prevent him from getting deeper into gambling.

And back to the topic. His family had done the right thing and that was because they had to because they realized that the young people in their family were gambling excessively. Maybe there should be firm action like that taken by his family to prevent him from returning to gambling again. And even though the young person can go to another city just because he wants to gamble, other family members can supervise the young person so that he cannot go anywhere. This requires cooperation from all family members to ensure that the young person does not return to gambling, even in another city.
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November 20, 2023, 09:16:24 AM
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.
It is very difficult to be able to control the money we have no matter how much we have if we can't use it properly of course the money will easily run out and we don't even know where the money is used, when someone wins a bet in the gambling we play of course they have to be able to controlling themselves, it would be better to take the winnings they have got and enjoy them, rather than looking for bigger wins and spending all the winnings they have got.
Rightly said but there are many gamblers who don't know how to enjoy these wins. They think that once they win they will win more and then lose their control and get greedy. Gambling doesn't always win if you become addicted to betting no matter how much money you have it will end. Once greed works it impairs your judgement leading to unexpected losses so constantly making sure you don't waste money will allow you to improve because it gives you more time to play. If you can control yourself you can bet on a variety of markets with generally favorable odds.
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November 20, 2023, 08:01:31 AM
The only thing that I can sell my properties for is Bitcoin, selling your things to gamble is sure to end in disaster for you, because you are betting all that money on luck, I can see that the man in the story of OP is a greedy man who only thinks for himself, that's why he won't listen to his family, they must have been telling him to stop for a long period of time before they decide to print out his photo and spread it around to make him stop gambling, the family are trying to safe themselves before the man causes more damages to their lives, my parents used to say that a gambler as a son is a lost son, as they believe or due to the past experience they have with gamblers, they believe that the son will sell everything for gambling.

Someone said this family went too far but I don't see how, if they don't stop him first he will do harm to them too, for someone who only have a house which he and his family are residing decide to sell the house so that he can gamble, where did he except his family to stay? On the streets? If he is living alone and he decide to do this to himself its better, maybe he want to sleep on the street homeless, but he shouldn't put his family in the same suffering.

I can't imagine the pain the family must have went through, this is a disgrace for them, it's a big shame and when they move out of their home every morning, they will have this feeling of embarrassment in them, as if people are all talking about them, I am sure that they must have use everything they know to make this man stop but as always, some gamblers always went too far, such people shouldn't have become a gambler from the beginning.

It's really a recipe for disaster if you will use your hard-earned money from your day-job and the money you generated from selling your valuable things. This is because in gambling, winning is uncertain. Anything isn't guaranteed. You might win today and lose big time tomorrow. No one can truly predict hundred percent what the outcome will be. Which is why it's necessary to gamble responsibly and to gamble with discipline. Moderation in betting and playing is essential so you won't get addicted to it. Because once you get obsessed with gambling, you will crave for it until you can no longer control your urges to play and spend.

If your family will go to an extent that will make you feel shameful, most probably it's because that's the only thing they can do to make you stop. Although I'm not really condoning that kind of act, especially threatening the casinos, but they might have been so desperate to help you quit gambling if that's the case. And it's so awful to witness that, I hope addicts will realize how much of a burden they are to their loved ones especially if they can't take after themselves.
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November 20, 2023, 07:03:18 AM
If I am very addicted and if my family is trying to help me quit, I won't blame and stop them. But wherever my feet is going to bring me, it's not their problem anymore but mine. So that's how an addicted gambler is and you're not going to stop until you're wholly stopped by your own and these posters or photographs that are given to the casinos just for them to recognize me, that's fine as they're just doing their thing to help me get out of addiction.

And with winning, I'll still give them their share of course. They're not other people and I have nothing against them, no grudge or what not and that's just me being me when I continue to gamble and all they trying to do is to help me out. So why wouldn't I share some money on them when I have won when I know that they have pure intentions and they don't want me to get to the extent to see me suffering and all they give me is the help that they can for me even if it means of stopping me to get into gambling shops. And if they were successful, I understand that there will be no prize money that shall be shared to them. Again, that's just me being me and I think some of you guys are also like that.
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November 20, 2023, 06:05:27 AM
The only thing that I can sell my properties for is Bitcoin, selling your things to gamble is sure to end in disaster for you, because you are betting all that money on luck, I can see that the man in the story of OP is a greedy man who only thinks for himself, that's why he won't listen to his family, they must have been telling him to stop for a long period of time before they decide to print out his photo and spread it around to make him stop gambling, the family are trying to safe themselves before the man causes more damages to their lives, my parents used to say that a gambler as a son is a lost son, as they believe or due to the past experience they have with gamblers, they believe that the son will sell everything for gambling.

Someone said this family went too far but I don't see how, if they don't stop him first he will do harm to them too, for someone who only have a house which he and his family are residing decide to sell the house so that he can gamble, where did he except his family to stay? On the streets? If he is living alone and he decide to do this to himself its better, maybe he want to sleep on the street homeless, but he shouldn't put his family in the same suffering.

I can't imagine the pain the family must have went through, this is a disgrace for them, it's a big shame and when they move out of their home every morning, they will have this feeling of embarrassment in them, as if people are all talking about them, I am sure that they must have use everything they know to make this man stop but as always, some gamblers always went too far, such people shouldn't have become a gambler from the beginning.
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November 20, 2023, 05:38:31 AM
During the weekend I was listening to an evening programme from one our the local radio stations they were discussing about gambling, the effects and how to manage it if you might be struggling with  addiction. And they had listeners calling in to share personal experiences or of a loved one that gambles and amidst many callers there was this very caller story that caught my interest and curiosity.

Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!

To answer your first question, I don't think that any family can be said to go too far in the process of rehabilitating one of their own. Family bond can make them to go to unimaginable length to save their member. But going beyond far to extreme can be dangerous and harmful to them and their addicted member.

Although In this particular case study, I think that the family should have focused on giving him a professional help by taking him to a rehab, perhaps a psychology or psychiatrist. Because restricting him to gamble within his environment will not be helpful, because he can travel to another areas or use a mobile phone to gamble. Unless they're locking him up, which will be barbaric.

If he has any conscience he should share his gambling success with his family, because he must understand that the family acted out of concern and love for him.

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November 20, 2023, 04:07:44 AM
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.
It is very difficult to be able to control the money we have no matter how much we have if we can't use it properly of course the money will easily run out and we don't even know where the money is used, when someone wins a bet in the gambling we play of course they have to be able to controlling themselves, it would be better to take the winnings they have got and enjoy them, rather than looking for bigger wins and spending all the winnings they have got.
Most gamblers can't keep that money after they win. As soon as they win, they want to use the money for various purposes and at one point even spend their entire winnings. But they should understand what happens if they lose when gambling again after winning. Where the money will come from at that time? Every gambler should conduct gambling with patience and spend the winnings properly. If the winning money can be invested in any investment or profitable venture then the money can support the gambler in transition from there. Since there is no guarantee of winning in gambling, gambling can be managed well if money is adequate for gambling.
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November 20, 2023, 03:45:00 AM
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?
We don't know whether he is someone who already has an income or not, because I think this is quite important when he doesn't have an income then he will immediately stop gambling because he no longer has money or assets that he can sell to get money.
I can't judge whether what his family is doing is extreme or not because his family certainly hopes that this method will be effective in stopping him from gambling, but how easy it is for him to find a betting shop in a different city will also determine the success of his family's steps, the more difficult it is to find a betting shop in another city, of course it will be enough managed to reduce his gambling, but because gambling can also be done online, he may switch to online gambling sites.
What is no less important is to take him to a therapist to get treatment so he can recover from his addiction.
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November 20, 2023, 03:10:22 AM
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So what he family did was to print a photograph of him and giving it to all the gambling shops within their neighborhood and around the locality, threatening that any of the gambling shops they have pasted the photo of their brother should they find their brother allowed to gamble in the shops they will sue the gamble shop owner to court as one that is abetting their brother's compulsive gambling lifestyle.

What do you mean by "gambling shop"? A casino or a sports betting shop?
1.How they can find out that their brother had gambled in one of the local "gambling shops"? What if the owners of those "shops" lied about this particular family member not gambling in their shop? This is too difficult to be proven in court.
2.The guy with compulsive gambling behavior is an adult. He has the right to visit casinos and to gamble(assuming that offline gambling is allowed by the law in that particular country). I don't think that they will achieve anything by suing the local "gambling shops".
I really doubt that this gambling addict would win a big amount of money via gambling. Even if he manages to win a big amount, he would most likely waste all the money in no time.
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November 20, 2023, 02:51:04 AM

In fact, his family has given up on all the efforts they have made, so they took extreme measures by displaying photos of their family in many gambling shops, but to be honest, it will not be 100% successful because he is an impulsive gambler, he will definitely continues to try hard to fulfill his gambling desires, he will definitely go to a faraway place, so in my opinion, the best way to help someone get out of their gambling addiction is to guide the person to go to a psychiatrist and consult with them to get rid of the effects of the addiction that has become sticky in their head.

The family was mostly against the gambler until he made the big win in the gambling,So they family action will be negative to the gamblers playing in the gambling sites.Some of the gambler had win the big win in the gambling sites,So it help them to convince their family members with the money earned from he gambling sites.The gambler who ready to hard work to analysis the gambling site will make the big win in the gambling sites.But some gambler will start to argue with their family members till the fight get in to the family searation.Because the gambler family members always the people against the gambling sites because they had hear the bad story about the gamblers who had loss huge money in the gambling sites.

That's right, there are some families who support the activities of their family members. but in my opinion, most families would oppose gambling activities because everyone knows the harmful effects of gambling that can change a person to be worse than before, and also oversized gambling has a negative perspective among the community because it can cause harm to others if someone is severely addicted.

And the bad story of a gambler is not small so many families will oppose their members if they are addicted to gambling, because they are afraid that something will happen to their family members if they are addicted to a high level. And this will certainly be detrimental to themselves because of the harmful effects of gambling and even the impact can spread to other people who are affected who do not know anything about the problems of those who are addicted. So it is important for families to remind their family members to avoid drug addiction which has dangerous adverse effects. Harming themselves is a given, but what I fear is that it can also affect others.
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November 19, 2023, 11:56:37 PM
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Everyone definitely has their own views and choices in life, that's why it's important to know what's good and bad in gambling or business, after all, why do people still think that gambling can make a lot of money even though just to win at gambling you still hope for luck, actually there is what is wrong with their mindset, if they really want to make a lot of money why not work or do business.

If you want to find entertainment there is no problem with gambling because basically gambling was created as entertainment to have fun, not the other way around like making money, just look at the many people who complain because they experience losses from gambling because they only think that gambling can make a lot of money and get rich instantly.
Of course, everyone must be able to assess the pros and cons of gambling so that they can reconsider being able to earn income from the gambling they play, because this is very difficult to obtain. I also rarely see people who can actually earn a steady income from gambling that I know. they always run out of their balance in a gambling game session so they have to deposit money again so they can continue gambling.

Yes, they should think like that, at least they have to work or run a business in order to get definite results. Hope in gambling is just a wishful thinking that cannot necessarily be achieved.

Using gambling on the basis of entertainment can be an activity thats It's goods as long as you can use it well and not excessively so you don't experienced too many losses and most importantly you have to be willing to lose your money if the gambling is for entertainment.
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November 19, 2023, 08:30:29 PM
In our country, there's a belief that if the money you make is not hard-earned money, specifically in gambling, it won't last long. It is true that winning in gambling is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity but if you didn't work hard to earn it, it will be easy to spend it without having a second thought. This may be the case for him that's why he lives a lifestyle of buying everything he wants even those unneeded things.
I've heard beliefs or sayings about it, but I don't know. I didn't think about it either. That could be because we don't work hard to get the money. The money doesn't last long and can't just be saved. We tend to spend the money easily because we might think that we can get it again from gambling, so there is no feeling of wanting to save the money. But getting a lot of winning money also makes someone want to fulfil their lifestyle like other people. Hopefully, if we can win a lot of money, we won't be like that and can use the money wisely so that we can change our lives for the better and can also have a good business so that we don't get our hopes up and don't depend too much on gambling to make money.
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November 19, 2023, 07:03:55 PM
Assisting family members who have needs from a big win is not a bad idea.  Such support will make them know that gambling can sometimes be profitable. This might help to change the perception of some members of society that see gambling as immoral. I have an idea now to drill a water borehole in my rural community whenever I get a big win and I will inform the elders of the community that I got the money from gambling. It will help to reduce the negative view to hold against gamblers.
We have some very stubborn families out there. When they say they don't like this, they really don't like it and will not buy the idea of enjoying whatever's coming from it, so no matter the amount of winning the person gets from gambling, some families will never see it as a good thing. Most people hate gambling to the extent that they regard money from it as dirty money.
 
So sometimes it's good to change their mindset first before winning the game if they can't accept your gambling habit. Adding to the fact that you gamble out of control, there is a higher possibility that they won't accept whatever comes from it that you present to them.
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November 19, 2023, 06:52:23 PM

In fact, his family has given up on all the efforts they have made, so they took extreme measures by displaying photos of their family in many gambling shops, but to be honest, it will not be 100% successful because he is an impulsive gambler, he will definitely continues to try hard to fulfill his gambling desires, he will definitely go to a faraway place, so in my opinion, the best way to help someone get out of their gambling addiction is to guide the person to go to a psychiatrist and consult with them to get rid of the effects of the addiction that has become sticky in their head.

The family was mostly against the gambler until he made the big win in the gambling,So they family action will be negative to the gamblers playing in the gambling sites.Some of the gambler had win the big win in the gambling sites,So it help them to convince their family members with the money earned from he gambling sites.The gambler who ready to hard work to analysis the gambling site will make the big win in the gambling sites.But some gambler will start to argue with their family members till the fight get in to the family searation.Because the gambler family members always the people against the gambling sites because they had hear the bad story about the gamblers who had loss huge money in the gambling sites.
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November 19, 2023, 06:34:30 PM
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Just two questions here:
1. Dis the family of this young man went too extreme in trying to help stop their brother from gambling addiction or not?

2. Assuming you are this young man and you had to run to a distant location to carry out your gambling as you are allowed to gambling within your neighborhood and luckily you won huge sum of million dollars. Would you share that money with your loved ones who were barring you from gambling or you will just stay off from them and live new found wealthy live alone?

Share your thoughts!
In fact, his family has given up on all the efforts they have made, so they took extreme measures by displaying photos of their family in many gambling shops, but to be honest, it will not be 100% successful because he is an impulsive gambler, he will definitely continues to try hard to fulfill his gambling desires, he will definitely go to a faraway place, so in my opinion, the best way to help someone get out of their gambling addiction is to guide the person to go to a psychiatrist and consult with them to get rid of the effects of the addiction that has become sticky in their head.
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November 19, 2023, 05:43:41 PM
1.) No, I don't think the family went to far here. They love their son and brother and want to help him as much as possible. Selling all your private property to gamble is extreme and he definitely needs help. The problem is that once you are above the legal age to gamble your family can't do much to stop it. Treating the casinos is one thing, but I am sure they know better and can't really refuse people just because the parents told them so. Also, if the young man really wants to gamble than he can find other ways like online gambling. The family should make an intervention and try their son to start a therapy. In such a severe case it would be best to visit a clinic for a few wwwks to make a hard break.
The impact of compulsive gambling has gone too far because he has sold everything to indulge his gambling addiction. He is lucky to have a family who really cares about his current condition, so the family has come to provide assistance and help heal psychologically. It seems that he really needs therapy to recover from gambling addiction and his family's concern will be very helpful to speed up healing from the effects of gambling addiction.

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2.) Of course I would share my success with my family, why shouldn't I? My siblings and parents only want the best for me and their concern over my well-being just shows their love. In case I win millions I would give every family member some money. It's my parents who paid for me all my life, now it's my turn to return some money. I think that if my brother or father would win the lottery they would also give me money.
Agreed, they don't support us in gambling but that's no reason to ignore them if we win millions of dollars from jackpot winnings, they deserve to receive some of those winnings because they really care about us and they only want the best for our future. I would give them 30% and they would be happy to get that kind of money.
You are really indeed lucky if you do have a family which do really shows care for you which we know that there are other families who dont really care on what are the struggles and things that happen into you.
So it isnt really that just right that you should be cursing them or would really be getting mad on what they have done for you. This is really showing that they do care for you
and its not really that something that bad and be grateful that you do have a family something like this.If you would really be forcing up yourself on finding ways to gamble then it would really be just that an easy solution for you to gamble again on which you could really just simply go into other places for you to play but is this something that you do want or like? You would surely be spending more
since travelling does means more expenses unless if you are really that having a rich family then it wont really be an issue.

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November 19, 2023, 04:24:27 PM
1.) No, I don't think the family went to far here. They love their son and brother and want to help him as much as possible. Selling all your private property to gamble is extreme and he definitely needs help. The problem is that once you are above the legal age to gamble your family can't do much to stop it. Treating the casinos is one thing, but I am sure they know better and can't really refuse people just because the parents told them so. Also, if the young man really wants to gamble than he can find other ways like online gambling. The family should make an intervention and try their son to start a therapy. In such a severe case it would be best to visit a clinic for a few wwwks to make a hard break.
The impact of compulsive gambling has gone too far because he has sold everything to indulge his gambling addiction. He is lucky to have a family who really cares about his current condition, so the family has come to provide assistance and help heal psychologically. It seems that he really needs therapy to recover from gambling addiction and his family's concern will be very helpful to speed up healing from the effects of gambling addiction.

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2.) Of course I would share my success with my family, why shouldn't I? My siblings and parents only want the best for me and their concern over my well-being just shows their love. In case I win millions I would give every family member some money. It's my parents who paid for me all my life, now it's my turn to return some money. I think that if my brother or father would win the lottery they would also give me money.
Agreed, they don't support us in gambling but that's no reason to ignore them if we win millions of dollars from jackpot winnings, they deserve to receive some of those winnings because they really care about us and they only want the best for our future. I would give them 30% and they would be happy to get that kind of money.
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November 19, 2023, 03:22:51 PM
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Of course, when gambler wants to share their winnings or invite their family to enjoy the results of their winnings, they will think that even though they are gambler, still care about their family and not forget them when they win.
Most people think gambling is bad activity and they even think that gambler winnings are only used for inappropriate activities such as going to nightclubs or getting drunk and all bad thoughts like this can be eliminated when they can show concern for their family or even other people.

There is little experience that I have recently where father and husband are quite fond of gambling and one of the types of gambling that is most liked is the dice game which is owned by bookie and there every bettor can come directly and place their bet on numbers in the dice.
This game involves shaking two dice using the shell of an old coconut and each bettor places bet on the number on the dice.
But he was gambler who never wanted to give his gambling winnings to his family because he thought he only wanted to feed or meet the family needs with money from his own work, not from gambling.
And what was surprising was that he won around $1,500 in one night and used 70% of the money to donate to social foundation that takes in street children who don't have parents.
In this case, I confused about whether he is good person or wise father because what he did was
On the one hand, the father doesnt want to support his family with gambling gains because he believes that money should be "earned." Still, he gives a big chunk of his newfound wealth to a good cause. What does this mean? It makes me think of a complicated moral compass, where gambling isnt just a way to have fun, but also a surprising way to help others. Does he seem like a good person? Could be. A smart dad? Not certain. But isnt it interesting how gambling, which is often looked down upon, can lead to kind acts? What it really is is a moral and ethical puzzle wrapped up in the form of a dice game. The way he acted goes against the usual story and shows that gambling and caring about others can live together. Isnt it fascinating to think about?
Each of us does have that own way of living on which it would really be just that basing our actions on what we do believe. Basing up on that little experience above on having that winning donation instead on applying or making use of it into his own family then its his choice but i do agree that it isnt something that it is really that wise to do so. Gambling wont really be that bad
as long you do only play for fun but it turns out that luck was on your side then those winnings wont really be that bad on spending at all. You are really just that basically making yourself
put in a hard situation but since those money been used up on other good means or deeds then it might be considerable but i do agree on the thing you've seen
that this isnt a smart move ever.

Back at topic on which i dont see for his family's action that had been made, it is really just for the sake of good then it is normal
that family always knows best.
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Of course, when gambler wants to share their winnings or invite their family to enjoy the results of their winnings, they will think that even though they are gambler, still care about their family and not forget them when they win.
Most people think gambling is bad activity and they even think that gambler winnings are only used for inappropriate activities such as going to nightclubs or getting drunk and all bad thoughts like this can be eliminated when they can show concern for their family or even other people.

There is little experience that I have recently where father and husband are quite fond of gambling and one of the types of gambling that is most liked is the dice game which is owned by bookie and there every bettor can come directly and place their bet on numbers in the dice.
This game involves shaking two dice using the shell of an old coconut and each bettor places bet on the number on the dice.
But he was gambler who never wanted to give his gambling winnings to his family because he thought he only wanted to feed or meet the family needs with money from his own work, not from gambling.
And what was surprising was that he won around $1,500 in one night and used 70% of the money to donate to social foundation that takes in street children who don't have parents.
In this case, I confused about whether he is good person or wise father because what he did was
On the one hand, the father doesnt want to support his family with gambling gains because he believes that money should be "earned." Still, he gives a big chunk of his newfound wealth to a good cause. What does this mean? It makes me think of a complicated moral compass, where gambling isnt just a way to have fun, but also a surprising way to help others. Does he seem like a good person? Could be. A smart dad? Not certain. But isnt it interesting how gambling, which is often looked down upon, can lead to kind acts? What it really is is a moral and ethical puzzle wrapped up in the form of a dice game. The way he acted goes against the usual story and shows that gambling and caring about others can live together. Isnt it fascinating to think about?
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November 19, 2023, 12:26:24 PM
Money can be intoxicating sometimes and only a few percentage of persons in the world actually know how to control the pressure and influence that comes with money control. I have had so many friends who were successful in hitting some significant profits in gambling but all end up squandering the fund in different things just because they have this perception that it's actually free money and should be spent anyhow.
It is very difficult to be able to control the money we have no matter how much we have if we can't use it properly of course the money will easily run out and we don't even know where the money is used, when someone wins a bet in the gambling we play of course they have to be able to controlling themselves, it would be better to take the winnings they have got and enjoy them, rather than looking for bigger wins and spending all the winnings they have got.
Those who can get a lot of money from gambling should be able to use it for their benefit and life. It was like a once in a lifetime opportunity to improve his life for the better. But unfortunately, most people prefer to waste their expenses by using a lot of their winnings. They don't try to take half of the winnings for their future but use all the money to follow a lifestyle and buy things they don't really need. If they have a close family, the immediate family will definitely warn the person to save his money for his future. Hopefully, if we get a big win, we can use it for our lives so that our lives can change for the better.
In our country, there's a belief that if the money you make is not hard-earned money, specifically in gambling, it won't last long. It is true that winning in gambling is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity but if you didn't work hard to earn it, it will be easy to spend it without having a second thought. This may be the case for him that's why he lives a lifestyle of buying everything he wants even those unneeded things.
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