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January 15, 2024, 07:36:22 AM
I would credit the man for sanity despite addiction. That gambler is courageous and has the balls to face the truth. The problem with many gamblers is that they cannot even make themselves face the reality. Many are in denial. Many are continuously damaging their finances, their personality, and even their relationships with their family, friends, co-workers, relatives, etc. Many gamblers insist that their luck is coming, etc. This gambler banning himself is the man. And how he has already successfully quit gambling.

Yes, I too consider him a hero. Many gamblers, especially after many losses in a row, think that that "their luck is coming", as you said, and they will never stop, they will keep betting and borrowing money and betting again. For many gambling addicts it's only getting worse with time. It takes a real hero to find the strength in yourself to quit at one point and make it hard for yourself to go back to gambling by banning yourself.
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January 09, 2024, 11:16:34 AM
that is not a way of limiting yourself from gambling. offline Casino is just only a gambling hall where you play gamble with your friends and have fun, but that does not limit you from online where you open an account and play at home. Or does any law restrictions also playing online?
That strategy to me is just a way of making people feel that he has changed from his gambling habit or let people remove that notion of a wayward person. If not so, I don't see any other reason.
Perhaps he used methods that no one else had ever tried to avoid gambling, so he thought about doing it that way. He can avoid offline casinos, but there is no guarantee that he will not use online casinos, especially now that there are so many online casinos, both fiat and crypto. He could have opened an account at an online casino and gambled from his home without anyone knowing. This will be even more dangerous because no one is watching him when he gambles, and he can also gamble secretly. If that's the case, he just avoids offline casinos but still gambles at online casinos, so what he wants to avoid gambling still can't be done well. This is where self-awareness is needed to be able to suppress the feeling of wanting to gamble and always try to avoid gambling.
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January 09, 2024, 08:58:13 AM
This seems like a great idea to fight gambling addiction. Having a list of gamblers, who voluntarily decided to exclude themselves from winning any money out of playing offline casinos seems like a way to deal with the problem. My country doesn't have such rule of self-exlusion when it comes to offline gambling. The casino owners definitely won't be against imposing such rule, because they won't be losing any money.
Why would you call this guy a fool? He suffered from gambling addiction and he found a way to remove any joy and satisfaction, which he gets out of gambling. He took actions to fight his addiction. He's a hero.
Either in my country there is no such thing, even gambling is blatantly prohibited.
Except Online gambling which has many loopholes even though it is banned or gambling sites are blocked.

Related to the efforts made by gamblers who impose bans on themselves, this certainly requires momentary awareness when they need to do so.
This is a unique enough way to make it unacceptable in any gambling.

But will this work on Online gambling?
Of course, depending on how the Online gambling system itself, limiting it individually is quite impossible.
But the effort made is quite appreciated because he became a hero for himself.
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January 09, 2024, 02:27:12 AM
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He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him

This seems like a great idea to fight gambling addiction. Having a list of gamblers, who voluntarily decided to exclude themselves from winning any money out of playing offline casinos seems like a way to deal with the problem. My country doesn't have such rule of self-exlusion when it comes to offline gambling. The casino owners definitely won't be against imposing such rule, because they won't be losing any money.
Why would you call this guy a fool? He suffered from gambling addiction and he found a way to remove any joy and satisfaction, which he gets out of gambling. He took actions to fight his addiction. He's a hero.
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January 09, 2024, 12:22:26 AM
that is not a way of limiting yourself from gambling. offline Casino is just only a gambling hall where you play gamble with your friends and have fun, but that does not limit you from online where you open an account and play at home. Or does any law restrictions also playing online?
That strategy to me is just a way of making people feel that he has changed from his gambling habit or let people remove that notion of a wayward person. If not so, I don't see any other reason.
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January 08, 2024, 08:50:14 PM
I would credit the man for sanity despite addiction. That gambler is courageous and has the balls to face the truth. The problem with many gamblers is that they cannot even make themselves face the reality. Many are in denial. Many are continuously damaging their finances, their personality, and even their relationships with their family, friends, co-workers, relatives, etc. Many gamblers insist that their luck is coming, etc. This gambler banning himself is the man. And how he has already successfully quit gambling.
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January 08, 2024, 08:16:59 PM
It's really surprising and funny how people can take so much risk and even dare to do certain things because I would personally not think of such not for a day because it's very possible the big win you have long anticipated could come after you have done the self exclusion and that will mean you. Will have to be prosecuted for such win and then you will lose your money and still suffer jail term for winning.

I don't see this approach to stoping gambling as a really wise one because it's not even going to avaiil you opportunity if you at any day or point im time get the opportunity to get something out gambling again you definitely wouldn't be able to.

The risks taken are very good in terms of money when the results are given, but if risks are taken where many things can go wrong, it is something that I do not Recommend , according to the capabilities of each player, decisions must be made, because if you don't take good care of your money, things can be disastrous, many problems can arise, among the biggest problems is addiction and addiction is a problem that you have to be very Careful about, because when we are in a casino what we need most is It's money, and if it leaves and we run out of Work , it's totally our responsibility.

That's why when we're here and we live in certain situations, we have to be looking at things, whether to take risks or not , if we hit it then we'll win a lot of money, we'd be the heroes of the Party , the Chosen ones , but I've seen some friends lose their temper. deinro and there is no way they can get it back, it's sad , but despite everything they have to accept things as they are, in casinos things are that way.
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January 08, 2024, 06:58:19 PM
Gambler becomes addicted to gambling it becomes very difficult to make positive changes his thoughts or views will be different which will lead him to more damage. Then nothing good will work in his mind he will continue to gamble. That's why gambling should be done in a limited way knowing the bad ways of gambling. A gambler can easily get himself out of trouble if his intentions are right.

Youre right. If someone gets hooked on gambling, it messes up their mindset and makes it hard to turn things around. Keeping it in check and knowing the risks helps. If they're in it for the right reasons, they can get out of trouble and avoid the constant gambling trap.

It depends on the person if he is hooked on that game and becomes an addict, which means he has no control over himself. There are people who are hooked on casino games and others know how to stop playing casino games even though they are hooked on that game they still know how to stop gambling. They follow a budget and that is important in every gambling you do.
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January 08, 2024, 06:33:46 PM
Your insights on the challenges faced by gamblers and the crucial role of personal responsibility and mindset are thought-provoking. Indeed, acknowledging one's faults and taking proactive steps towards positive change is essential.
Taking a proactive action for our own good is really essential in this "business", but in the op I think the step taking by the gambler was a mediocre step, what's the point of reporting yourself to be barred from gambling to win big amount whereas you still turn around to come and gamble for small stipends, like what point is he trying to prove after losing his rent due to his careless and undisciplined gambling behaviour. I think this is a foolish act.
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January 08, 2024, 06:21:22 PM

It really depends on the tolerance of each person towards gambling. I always become hook on gambling whenever I’m playing but I stop thinking about gambling after my game. The problem of people that usually get addicted was they still keep daydreaming to win big even after gambling. Continuous thinking about gambling is what makes uncontrollable that later result to addiction.

You can become hook on gambling without being addicted if you know when to stop and play.

The gambler will get the temptation most of the time after the winning in the gambling site,So the experience gambler know when to stop the game.If you keep play after the winning in the gambling site,then you are the one of the gambling addicted person in the gambling community.Because you are not control the emotions in the gambling site,the emotional decision make you to continue the game again and again.Because the loss was unacceptable one by the gambler,this was the main reason for the many gambler totally getting addicted to the gambling site.

It's really surprising and funny how people can take so much risk and even dare to do certain things because I would personally not think of such not for a day because it's very possible the big win you have long anticipated could come after you have done the self exclusion and that will mean you. Will have to be prosecuted for such win and then you will lose your money and still suffer jail term for winning.

I don't see this approach to stoping gambling as a really wise one because it's not even going to avaiil you opportunity if you at any day or point im time get the opportunity to get something out gambling again you definitely wouldn't be able to.

The gambler was mean for the risk,I had loss nearly 1500$ dollars in the gambling site.But still I do doing the gambling,because gambling site thrill was never satisfied by any game.After the loss some gamblers get addicted to the game,but I had controlled game in the gambling site.So I had my game in the gambling only if I wish to play the game.
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January 08, 2024, 05:29:41 PM
I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Wut? This story completely doesn't add up. Links or it never happened  Grin

I don't know much about the Gaming Commission, or if such thing even exists on a federal level (assuming we're talking about the US), but usually gaming commissions in other countries would have zero to do with restricting (or banning) any individual players from gambling. They simply exist for the purpose of regulatory bodies overseeing the gambling industry in terms of compliance and paying all the required fees and taxes. They might force gambling businesses to provide an opt-out option for players who can't quit on their own, but that's about it.

And after getting "banned" he could still play but was capped only on winnings? There was no limit on how much he could wager/lose? How does this make any sense?
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January 08, 2024, 05:00:21 PM
It's really surprising and funny how people can take so much risk and even dare to do certain things because I would personally not think of such not for a day because it's very possible the big win you have long anticipated could come after you have done the self exclusion and that will mean you. Will have to be prosecuted for such win and then you will lose your money and still suffer jail term for winning.

I don't see this approach to stoping gambling as a really wise one because it's not even going to avaiil you opportunity if you at any day or point im time get the opportunity to get something out gambling again you definitely wouldn't be able to.
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January 08, 2024, 04:04:55 PM
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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I read various comments on this post and the response from the community is very mixed. well, so I'm just going to focus on what this guy did. regardless of whether this person should be banned or not allowed to play again, I tried to imagine being that person. first, this man won a fairly large amount of gambling. however, in the end what he won ran out somewhere and at the same time the man was unable to pay the rent because it was spent at the gambling table. then, it occurred to him to carry out the self-exclusion feature. usually, in this phase a person is at the lowest point in his life. I can feel it, because there are many of my friends who experience similar things but don't use the self-exception option.

This man's story continues, somehow this man can still gamble even though this man has actually asked himself to be blocked. this man should no longer be able to play or return, because the system forbids him. even in this post, he has been flagged in the self-exclusion system. but let's just assume that in the system, there are options or features that still allow it but with certain limitations. well, usually in this phase this man is actually fighting his high desire not to return to gambling again. but what can I do, in the end this man couldn't hold back his desire to return to playing even though he was restricted. perhaps, without realizing it, this man gradually followed his limits and over time he was finally able to stop his addictive activities. in the end, he was free from his problem. I can learn wisdom or essence from the story in this thread. whether true or not, but there is a story in it. yeah, this guy forbids himself with the self-exclusion feature, then he struggles even though his desires remain high and in the end his problems can be controlled. by the way, as I said above. what I said, just trying to imagine being in the situation of the man in this story from my personal version.
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January 08, 2024, 01:33:57 PM
If actually he needed to stop gambling it is something he could do by himself and not to report himself to the authority and in the end the authority took away the freedom he has.
It's easy to say that he can do it on his own but many gamblers have been dealing with problem having the thought that they can do it on their own and just quit gambling as is. But no, it's not that easy at all and that's many of the addicted ones need a mentor or someone to help them quit.

The best thing to do is to remain discipline by yourself and give yourself such limitation so that in the future at any given time you could simply reverse situation or decision and everything will change good for you. I also acknowledge that it is not everyone that will be discipline to this extent so the essence of the measures that he took.
I agree that being disciplined will make you at least control yourself. You may not entirely quit on an instant but if you're that type of gambler, you have the edge to control your moves and decisions. It might be a gradual process but as long as there's a better approach that you've been doing, you'll see the impact of it.
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January 08, 2024, 01:03:39 PM
In my opinion, winning in gambling is a pleasant addition to the game and nothing more, and losing is a natural event that is explained mathematically. If a gambler seeks only to win, then losses negatively affect him, which ultimately leads to problems.

Play for fun and when you are lucky enough to win you will be immensely pleased.
Consider the winnings from gambling as a bonus because there is no need to expect more we know how exactly luck comes uncertainly.
Yes, defeat in gambling can be considered natural because in theory gambling loses more than wins, it must be admitted about that because after all the goal is for fun in the game.

That's my own principle, where gambling should be fun, if you win a large amount of pleasure more than usual because you have earned money from the game but it's only a moment, tomorrow you might not win.
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January 08, 2024, 12:55:31 PM

The fact he's realized his mistakes can help the gambler to struggle out of addiction. His problem could be worse if he never noticed it or felt remorse for his activities. What he did is the right thing, at least he'd be observing himself and the restriction will help remind him of his decision. Changing is not easy and one will undergo series of process before he'd be free from gambling addiction. You don't expect him to stop immediately. He just did what he thinks is right for himself. Other gamblers may not do anything for themselves except for the help of people around him. Reducing the amount of money also controls him to know that regardless of what he does in gambling he won't win more than the specific amount. Hence stopping his urge to chase losses. Losing out his rent on gambling shows that he must have been looking to win huge amount of money in gambling, which then led him to addiction. His decision is fine.

The gambler who get to know their in the gambling addictions can easily recover from the gambling addictions.But if the gamblers don’t feel the impact of the loss will do the gambling after their earnings from the other sources.The gambling addicted person will do use of all the money from their earnings to the gambling till he recover the losses.Because the loss of money is not the easy one to forgot by the gamblers.They will keep the money loss in the separate sheet,So the gamblers keep the history of loss and gain in the gambling record sheet.The huge amount of loss and winning will change the gamblers attitude towards the game.
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January 08, 2024, 12:41:11 PM
I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
To The gambler who went to the commission so that they will blacklist his name from gambling and has already reduced his opportunity of winning to only $200, I can say that he is a fool at first and the later he is a hero. Why do I call him a fool is because in this life he has limited himself not to regain the money he has lost in gambling by enemies. It could also be a good team to him because why he will not be able to win up to the amount he lost in gambling it is another way of saving his money not to lavish more in gambling.

If actually he needed to stop gambling it is something he could do by himself and not to report himself to the authority and in the end the authority took away the freedom he has. Even if in the future when he regains his sanity and they want to remove the limitation it will be a problem to him because he would receive so much questions that he will not be able to answer. The best thing to do is to remain discipline by yourself and give yourself such limitation so that in the future at any given time you could simply reverse situation or decision and everything will change good for you. I also acknowledge that it is not everyone that will be discipline to this extent so the essence of the measures that he took.
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January 08, 2024, 10:48:21 AM
I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I am pretty sure that this would be possible to ban yourself as I would assume this is part of self-exclusion programs to protect yourself. I guess casinos are actually obliged to offer this option to their customers the same way they have to offer this online when you use these self-exclusion periods. I think you can choose between several options ranging from hours to months to a year to entire self-exclusion forever. But the thing is this only applies to one specific casino then. I don't know if there is some central authority where you can provide your name, ban yourself and they communicate your data or allow for your data to be checked by online providers to see if you are eligible to play or not. I wouldn't call a person a fool when they understand they have a problem they can't handle otherwise. Better exclude yourself before you cause other people to have to deal with even more harm.
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January 08, 2024, 08:21:13 AM
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In my opinion, winning in gambling is a pleasant addition to the game and nothing more, and losing is a natural event that is explained mathematically. If a gambler seeks only to win, then losses negatively affect him, which ultimately leads to problems.

Play for fun and when you are lucky enough to win you will be immensely pleased.
Losing is inevitable in gambling and its something that cant really be avoided and this is why it would be always recommended that you should really be that making yourself that getting prepared for whatever things that you would encounter on which it would be mostly be pertaining about having those losses and if you dont make yourself that get prepared then you would really be that impulsive.
Basing up into the situation which is really that mentioned on OP then this is really something a step which it might really be that looking that too desperate but it is really just that something that right
if you are really that serious when it comes on quitting gambling for good. It is really just that impossible that someone cant really be able to notice on how addicted you are towards gambling
on which it would really be that impossible that you cant sense something.
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January 08, 2024, 08:12:02 AM
Preventive measures and reducing the risk of losing money when gambling is a must for gamblers. Unfortunately, many gamblers don't pay attention to this because they want to win and instead use more and more money to gamble. They don't win but lose, making them even more frustrated because they can't win the gambling game. Gambling provides great temptation to all gamblers, and only wise gamblers can avoid this temptation and gamble comfortably because they don't think too much about winning. They can make decisions to avoid gambling when they don't feel like gambling.
In the case of the man that OP has mentioned, there's no way that's going to make a dent to his gambling problem because he's still gambling and at the same time he's still gambling right and it's much worse because he's also limited when it comes to wins which means it's all losses for him.

The fact he's realized his mistakes can help the gambler to struggle out of addiction. His problem could be worse if he never noticed it or felt remorse for his activities. What he did is the right thing, at least he'd be observing himself and the restriction will help remind him of his decision. Changing is not easy and one will undergo series of process before he'd be free from gambling addiction. You don't expect him to stop immediately. He just did what he thinks is right for himself. Other gamblers may not do anything for themselves except for the help of people around him. Reducing the amount of money also controls him to know that regardless of what he does in gambling he won't win more than the specific amount. Hence stopping his urge to chase losses. Losing out his rent on gambling shows that he must have been looking to win huge amount of money in gambling, which then led him to addiction. His decision is fine.
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