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Quote from: Kemarit on December 11, 2023, 06:10:06 AM

https://www.begambleaware.org/self-exclusion

So yes, you can do go to the gaming commission and ask yourself to be ban. I know a guy that has been banned, but he didn't do it himself, his wife did. The wife call the casinos and describe his husband and obviously his identification.

And then he told me that he was surprised when he go to a casino and that he was stop and was banned from entering. Later he found out that his wife is the one responsible because that time he was really addicted to that point that he is playing money that did not belong to him (he was a government employee that time).

WOW! Actually, this is the 1st time I heard of this self-exclusion thing imagine you will exclude yourself from gambling at a given point in time well not for that long period of months and years I am talking about days or maybe an hour you can surely take advantage to that given time or interval for sure a great gambler will make used of this kind of situation if he already lost it or he is making a lot of money depending on the time given he is banned then he will eventually stop for sure this is to keep him from losing any further or making bets any further then controlling his risk of getting addicted or maybe saving something from gambling and for the house to not take his given money,

If what I think really works then I think that will be great and can be used in anyone's advantage, but if the self-exclusion didn't work that way then there are some better things that anyone can make used of it,

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I dktnkmow the legalities behind limiting someone to winning $200 or its trespassing but if the story is true then good for that guy. He understood he was uncontrollably addicted and did what he thought he needed to get over the addiction. Most people don't know how to get themselves to stop so good on him. Most people rely 100% on other people coming up with fixes this guy did it right.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 06:03:48 AM

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

I don’t really know how true it is, I haven’t heard about it before, and I don’t know how possible it is to flag yourself that you can’t win big when gambling, there is nothing in my country like a gaming commission. Since I have not heard about things like this before, that does not mean it’s not possible, but it’s not in my country, it might be possible in some other countries. But to me, it doesn’t make any sense. Why will you flag your name? Won’t you feel bad after winning big and discovering that you can’t access the money and you are the cause?

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 06:03:48 AM

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I haven’t seen anyone physically that use this strategy, so I don’t really know how effective it will be, but I don’t think a really addicted gambler will do things like this. I am sure anger can make someone do things like this, maybe after losing a huge amount of money, you might end up being angry and decide to red flag your name, but I am sure after a short period of time, an addicted gambler will go back and remove their name.

Seriously, if something like this is possible in my country, I will never try it because it makes no sense to me. I am not addicted to gambling, I gamble just for fun. Why won’t I be able to withdraw my money after winning a large amount of money?

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 06:03:48 AM

I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

Many gamblers makes this mistake a lot of time, they have this mentality that anytime they something big, that's when their head gives the motivation that gambler is there way to wealth not understanding that they might have just be one of the lucky winners fur the and instead of them to try again the next day or continue to play carefully the way they have been, they recklessly played until they run into debt forever.

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He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

Gambling is addictive and can make him do what will harm him, I think his actions is valid so he doesn't sell hiss house like some gamblers does, sell properties and even take lain that will affect them later especially gamblers that love to use credit card to bet. But why are they going to do that to his earnings? The only thing they should responsible for for deposit and wager and not the earnings.

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He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Gambling is not difficult but if this stop him from gambling, then I will say his decision is great to him but I will not make dy u attempt. I will play and gamble like it's a normal daily routine.

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Quote from: Latviand on December 11, 2023, 06:33:36 AM

Definitely a fool, if he already went to a gaming commission to have his name blacklisted or banned then shouldn't his gambling habits have stopped because he was banned or flagged whatever? But as the story goes on, this person can still get into these casinos and still play but only get a 200 USD win, man can still waste money and not be able to bring back a profit because he can't win big which is stupid, if you're not stopping from gambling even after you did those crazy request from the gaming commission then nothing changed because the money spent is still there and he's still gambling.

As long as it worked, does it matter?
I guess that way he could not gamble off large amounts of money at ones so don't look at it as a way to stop you from gambling alone, it's also a way to reduce hw you lose money while gambling. He won't be able to stake with large amounts or else his name would be flagged.
It's a pretty good strategy to me. It's like a way of regulating his gambling habit till he finally became from his gambling addiction.
A strategy that made a man who was so addicted to gamble to not step into a casino for 10 years is a good one.

What I don't understand is what would happen to the casino if they allowed him to gamble and not send him away. Does he has a right to sue them.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 06:03:48 AM

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Even though I don’t have any information about the situation mentioned by the person who experienced this, at least I understand that it is an effective method for this person and that it is useful for getting rid of gambling addiction. Although the process of getting rid of gambling addiction varies from person to person, this method seemed a little too illogical for me. Especially when I empathize, I think this;

Even though the big winning odds are low in gambling, there is always the possibility of getting a big win. For this reason, when we gamble we should gamble without focusing on the expectation of big win possibility but we should also be able to control ourselves in case this possibility occurs. So, although this possibility is very low, it doesn’t seem to me a logical idea to directly apply such a method to get rid of gambling addiction. If different methods have been tried before and these methods don’t provide a solution, using the mentioned method would be a more logical option.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 06:03:48 AM

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

This part of the story makes no sense. If he is limited to winning big does that mean that he can control the result of the game? I know that if you want to win big, you stake big but there are also people who with their little wager, they still win big.

What the person in the story should have done instead was to put the self-exclusion such that his wager can't go past a certain limit. And that he can only stake on a game, that amount, once per week.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 06:03:48 AM

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Perhaps this is a very smart move on his part, if he understands that if he wins, he will still lose everything due to his addiction, then what is the point in this. And he found a way out of this situation for himself, the decision was of course strange, it was better to find the willpower in himself and stop playing after winning, but if he understood that he couldn’t do that, he added himself to the register of players (I didn’t suspect that such a thing existed ).

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He is a fool because after he has gone to report himself in the gambling commission, he is still trying to gamble, meaning that he can't leave his addiction without people forcing him to do that.

However, what he did was a good thing because he will definitely stop gambling out of his own will, and there is nothing he can do to go back to gambling, and this is why he haven't gambled for ten years now. He should give up and think of gambling no more so that if he finds himself in a different place where he can have access to gamble, he wouldn't gamble.

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The story is very fascinating because it must have taken a lot of courage and deep thinking to arrive at such a decision and even enact it.
I would call him a hero because he did something early to prevent or control his finance from being invested in the wrong hobby.
Still, this does not stop him from gambling online unless he banned himself there too, which is practically impossible.

Furthermore, there are other habits far worse than a gambling addiction and that is what the person in the story should be worried about.

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This is one of the extreme measures that one could do in order to ensure that they will not set foot on a casino ever again. That doesn't exclude them from offshore casinos though, and it's still within the realm of possibility that they create an account there and play. A lot of gambling platforms are based on Curacao nowadays, and it's really easy to bypass this self-imposed ban if they really want to get that gambling itch scratched.

It's a good move nonetheless. At least he was honest that he was too far down the rabbit hole and wouldn't want to dig an even deeper grave for himself with gambling. Props to him cutting off his ties with gambling and living a completely clean life without degeneracy.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on December 11, 2023, 01:34:38 PM

In fact, this incident, in my opinion, is what saved him and his family from a more serious gambling addiction. because in this case, when he has experienced winning with a large enough nominal value, then he will continue to hope for a win with that nominal amount continuously. On the other hand, with his name banned, of course he increasingly realizes that he no longer works very well or that it is no longer possible to earn much money from gambling. So maybe he's starting to realize that. Well, this is where he was actually helped. This might be extraordinary luck for him who almost became an addicted gambler who was getting worse and worse.

He was very lucky even though he would not accept the fact that happened to him because he had been limited to winning only $200, but he decided to stop gambling after that incident, So I think that disappointment brought luck to him because he stopped gambling with his winnings, I think we should follow the method to gamble only to make a profit and not only gamble for fun, but whatever is related to gambling there are profits and losses, so if you have won a high bet then withdraw the profits so that you can avoid gambling addiction.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 06:03:48 AM

I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

You're right, this isn't something we hear all the time, but I think that was an amazing and a heroic step towards killing his addiction and the best part of it was that it actually worked. There's nothing much Moore better than realizing that your addiction is taking the best part of your life and that it would ruin you if nothing was done and real quick. He truly understand what was gonna hit him if he didn't do nothing and he thought about such an amazing idea and it actually worked out for him just fine because if hadn't willingly done that, who knows what would have happened to him, he sure wouldn't have just lost his rent, who knows what else he could have lost due to his gambling addiction.

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Quote from: panjul07 on December 11, 2023, 11:19:26 AM

So he is banning himself and the system limit him to win max $200 only? What kind of system is this?
A ban is given but the player is still allowed to gamble with limited max win? What a fool...

His story was he gamble his rent money, so I guess that is his way of limiting himself to gamble, pretty ridiculous right? If I'm winning then I'm going to continue it till I lose significant amount of money. For me he is not fool, he's trying to save himself in drowning from gambling. He just wanna say afloat with a limit of $200 at max!

Quote from: panjul07 on December 11, 2023, 11:19:26 AM

I would say the gambler is a fool, how he is willing to accept such a term where he is banned but still allowed to gamble with max win?

He doesn't need to accept it, cause he did it, so he knew all along what it would cost him.

Quote from: panjul07 on December 11, 2023, 11:19:26 AM

I will not even accept the terms in such a ban system, if he is willing to avoid addiction, he should find a term where he is limited on max lose on each session or max lose in total for speified timeframe or even a ban system that completely ban him forever.

Well I can agree on this, he's trying to limit himself but he did it the other way around which is odd to me. Anyways that's his plan. the next thing we should know is how long did he do it to himself Cheesy

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 11, 2023, 06:10:06 AM

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So yes, you can do go to the gaming commission and ask yourself to be ban. I know a guy that has been banned, but he didn't do it himself, his wife did. The wife call the casinos and describe his husband and obviously his identification.

And then he told me that he was surprised when he go to a casino and that he was stop and was banned from entering. Later he found out that his wife is the one responsible because that time he was really addicted to that point that he is playing money that did not belong to him (he was a government employee that time).

I didn't know this would apply in physical casinos as well but now when i think about it, why not.

But i am sure people can fly under a radar in some countries and play with smaller sums even if they excluded themselves. This wouldn't fly here in finland as these days as every player needs to do kyc via strong authentication via bank via online banking credentials etc. But i am fairly certain that most countries in the world aren't here yet. But they most likely will be as they are part of same kind of groups that are enforcing FATF rules. So enjoy your freedom while you still can. Not that this is all gloomy. At least i won't lose my winnings by losing a lottery ticket now.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 06:03:48 AM

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

In fact, this incident, in my opinion, is what saved him and his family from a more serious gambling addiction. because in this case, when he has experienced winning with a large enough nominal value, then he will continue to hope for a win with that nominal amount continuously. On the other hand, with his name banned, of course he increasingly realizes that he no longer works very well or that it is no longer possible to earn much money from gambling. So maybe he's starting to realize that. Well, this is where he was actually helped. This might be extraordinary luck for him who almost became an addicted gambler who was getting worse and worse.

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Of all the gamblers who admitted he has the addiction, it's just him who does the unthinkable so he can stop his addiction. It's insane however that he still gambles after all he did to avoid gambling by banning himself. No one has done that but I would be interested to learn who the guy is if OP has the link to him.

Quote from: Russlenat on December 11, 2023, 08:19:35 AM

Tell him to play online, no more banning would happen even if he is too good, unless he's cheating.

This will put him back on track because of all the casinos he could hop around. He is still gambling even when he bans himself so he must like it still.
The more I think that he still gambles, he must haave been fighting the addiction but sneaks sometimes just to breathe and then back to fighting the addiction gain.

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I applaud him. .... This is a crazy thing for a gambling addict to do who is trying to get rid of the addiction.
If we look at it in terms of profit, of course he is a fool because he has limited himself, so no matter how much he wins, he will never get the whole result.
But in my opinion he is someone who is quite smart because he has learned that what makes someone so comfortable playing gambling, because they are too euphoric about the winnings they get. And the victory continues to overshadow them even though they have often received a defeat.

With a limit, he will never again overextend himself to gambling and be euphoric about the victory he gets, so that the activity slowly becomes an empty activity. So this can really help him to get out of the world of gambling, because he already considers that the real victory is to get out of the activity and leave it forever.

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And I think that he himself knows his capabilities and that is why he made that very difficult decision, to the point that he had measures taken for himself, and that is something that may be very extreme but for him himself it is efficient, it must be that his own mind plays tricks on him, that is why he has to do something like that, and if he does it it is because he knows that he can fall into the addiction of everything to the point that he can do things that are not correct to get money, it is a way of protection, I wouldn't do it like that, but it's her way of keeping things from getting out of control, I understand that someone's wife could do that to protect him, a woman if she is capable of doing something like that for love.

There are ways to protect yourself, but they are not so hard, so severe, but the player knows himself very well, and knows what he is capable of doing, each person chooses what they want for their life and if that means putting it on themselves, so that's it.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 06:03:48 AM

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

Banning himself from winning above $200 is not even the right thing to do in my country. $200 is a big amount of money, and beside, he can still gamble multiple times and win on average of $200, which won't stop him from gambling, but if that pattern works for him, that's a good thing.

For me, the best thing to do is to go and ban themselves entirely from being able to use the gambling house. That's, he can only be allowed to come in and watch games, but to place a bet, he will be highly banned from doing so. That way, he can rest assured that he won't be able to gamble again.

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