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legendary
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December 11, 2023, 12:13:05 PM
#49
Tell him to play online, no more banning would happen even if he is too good, unless he's cheating.

If the guy asked to be banned, it means that he, of his own volition, already knows that he has problems with gaming and as he couldn't control himself so he preferred to use the harshest method to prevent him from continuing to play, I think that despite being a very hard, he made a good decision, because according to him he no longer gambles, he was probably cured thanks to the decision he made, but if he had continued playing in online casinos after self-exclusion from physical casinos then his addicted condition would have worsened to very scary levels, he would have reached the level of selling all his assets to continue playing. I'm happy that the guy managed to cure himself, addiction and a dangerous illness

addiction destroys a person little by little, addiction separates you from other people and there comes a time when you look around and realize that you are alone, everyone who loves you abandons you, addiction has this ability to isolate you from the world, that's why that it is always good to play in moderation and not be a stubborn person, when a person realizes that they cannot control themselves, they cannot go days without playing, then the person must seek help quickly before it is too late, there are few people who are proud aside and take courage to tell the world that they are addicted and that they need help, most people when they are addicted hide because they feel ashamed, they feel afraid and they are too proud



In my opinion, the guy is a hero, he had the courage to admit that he has a gambling problem and that he couldn't get out of this problem alone, so he used the toughest method and that was right, at least the guy solved the problem. If he had hidden, then today he would be alone, addicted walking the streets with other vices like drugs
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December 11, 2023, 12:11:57 PM
#48
I think this practice is possible, and in many countries it is possible to prohibit oneself from taking loans from any banks.This function is also there. According to the guy who is listed in the starting post, he can easily gamble without checking his identity, so this method is not entirely safe , and there are plenty of such sites on the Internet.
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December 11, 2023, 12:02:54 PM
#47
I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
It’s the first time I’ve heard of a gambler banning himself from a casino (sounds a little funny), but stories about when close relatives turn to a casino with a request (I don’t know what exactly this appeal or request looks like) so that this gambler is not allowed into the casino and not allowed to gamble I have heard more than once.

Whatever methods are used, if they allow you to get rid of gambling addiction, then these are the right actions. Any means are good in the fight against this disease. The main thing is to achieve the goal. If the hero of your story succeeded, then praise and honor to him. Therefore, to the question posed in the title, I think the right answer is hero.
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December 11, 2023, 11:52:57 AM
#46
He did the right thing to secure his future and save himself from making silly mistakes that would affect his finances. I've not heard of such things, but it's quite common online, that some players get banned from playing games across every other online casino. Don't understand why other people see him as a fool, does it mean they want him to continue being addicted or repeating his mistakes? Or is he blamed for being addicted after winning 5k dollars? But, encouraging him to exclude himself through that method. It's quite a fast way of dealing with gambling addiction.

He is an hero because he knew this at the very begenning of the process which can give him a very worst life if he continued to gamble.
I like the idea of self exclusion by begambleaware.org , but this is mostly used by fiat betting sites.

so here is one more responsiblegambling.org, you can find this on every reputable crypto gambling site and can self exclude ourself if you want.


Didn't check through the site, does it work like what I described above? A good number of addicted players won't have the privilege of doing similar things. The addiction may have redirected their thoughts to focus mainly on gambling. The guy is indeed lucky to follow his mindset and quit immediately. He's gone through thick and thin due to gambling addiction. Imagine staking his house rent. The previous win or his, really left him a scar that reminded him he could win such an amount again. Gamblers should learn from the mistakes of others, and avoid compulsive or problem gambling, because of a big win in the past.
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December 11, 2023, 11:43:00 AM
#45

So yes, you can do go to the gaming commission and ask yourself to be ban. I know a guy that has been banned, but he didn't do it himself, his wife did. The wife call the casinos and describe his husband and obviously his identification.

And then he told me that he was surprised when he go to a casino and that he was stop and was banned from entering. Later he found out that his wife is the one responsible because that time he was really addicted to that point that he is playing money that did not belong to him (he was a government employee that time).
Kudos to the man's wife in this story. She saved his life and elongated the years they have to spend in the marriage. I don't know how long ago this happened, I think she deserves the wife of the Year award.

If you want to test a gambler's honesty. If you want to know if they are deceiving themselves or not when they say they have taken a stand to quit gambling and would self -exclude themselves is if they follow it through or end up bringing up some silly excuses.

You would always know those who are taking responsibility for their gambling habits through their actions and inactions.
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December 11, 2023, 11:41:42 AM
#44

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

This is useless already due to the existence of online casino. I’m not sure either the credibility of the story because there’s no such thing on my country that let you voluntarily list your name to be ban on all casino in your country unless you do something terrible that violate the casino rules but the restrictions will be limited to the specific casino that you made a violation.

As I said above. There’s a lot of ways to play gambling now without relying on IRL casino. I’m not saying it’s a fool move but rather a useless move.
When addiction is really not something that has been removed or had been resolved then you would really be finding yourself on such big trouble. Why? Just like on what you have said
that as long you are really that having those kind of gambling intents and interest then you would definitely be finding ways on how or you could really be play and as long you do have the funds and the money then you would really be definitely be looking neither offline or online. Self exclusions or banning up yourself would really be that pointless or useless because
not all the places of the world or platforms or businesses would really be considering people to play anytime.
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December 11, 2023, 11:31:00 AM
#43
Honestly speaking, I really support the addicted gambler for the kind of action he took to limit his gamble life or addictions.
Only God knows what the so called addicted gambler have been going through during his gambling season. I say this because I believe that the time he won the huge amount of money, he was staking higher amount of money than before when he haven't won big.
However, it is hard to control, most when you won such a huge amount of money because you might be thinking that, that's the time for you to recover the ones you have lost and also gain more from gamble, but it is not like that and that is why most gamblers are been addicted today.
Most time or winning can be a dangerous temptation and it only takes those that have seen or own more than the kind of money that  they won to control the happiness of the huge one that they won.
If the gambler ban him self from gamble I do not see anything wrong with that because he is trying to keep a save distance with gamble.
legendary
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December 11, 2023, 11:29:07 AM
#42
I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I've heard of similar bans (where you can voluntarily ban yourself from local casinos). In my opinion, this is imbecility and shifting responsibility for oneself onto others. I wouldn’t want to do business and also keep track of the “names” of visitors - who fucking came to me on their own, but before that they banned themselves from me. What kind of nonsense is this and why should I do this and if I suddenly provide him with services, be responsible for it? If he does not control himself, then let him go to a psychiatric hospital and be treated.

Regarding this incident, what year was it? I can assume that this is definitely the case in this century (these stupid self-bans are a modern invention), so I’m not sure of the effectiveness of such actions - the guy hasn’t heard of the Internet and online gambling? If his addiction is really that strong, then he would definitely find a way to play online, besides, poker can be found everywhere on the Internet - even on YouTube there are thousands of hours of videos about poker tournaments and the like.

In general, this story does not look believable, but if we assume that it is true and this highly addicted gambler was able to end his addiction, then he did well.
But because of such idiots, life becomes harder for normal people - if there are lists of “self-banned”, then the casino must monitor them in order to prevent them from playing, and this leads to the need for a total KYC and other unpleasant things like taxes.
legendary
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December 11, 2023, 11:19:26 AM
#41
So he is banning himself and the system limit him to win max $200 only? What kind of system is this?
A ban is given but the player is still allowed to gamble with limited max win? What a fool...
I would say the gambler is a fool, how he is willing to accept such a term where he is banned but still allowed to gamble with max win?
I will not even accept the terms in such a ban system, if he is willing to avoid addiction, he should find a term where he is limited on max lose on each session or max lose in total for speified timeframe or even a ban system that completely ban him forever.
I will also he is a hero because he can stay away from gambling but I think it is not because of the ban system, it is more because of his own will.
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December 11, 2023, 11:15:31 AM
#40
I consider him a hero, considering that he went to such lengths to go to gaming commission and have his name banned by himself just to get himself to stop gambling. There are not many gambling addicts like that, who come to the gaming commission only to have themselves banned, because of the many gambling addicts, most of them don't realize it and even let themselves get lost in their addiction until it destroys their lives and those closest to them.

The gambler who had passionate in the gambling will do gambling with the gap even he get loss from the gambling.Because gambling is the game,loss doesn’t important for the gambler.Some of the gambling addicts will do the gambling referrals for the commission to continue the game at the time of no money available in the gambling site.The money from the referrals as the bonus from the gambling site will be the gift to the gambling addicted person.Not all the gamblers loss their life in the gambling sites,some also recreate their own life using the gambling winnings.So he also need of luck to make the huge difference in the real life using the gambling winnings.
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December 11, 2023, 11:01:49 AM
#39
He is an hero because he knew this at the very begenning of the process which can give him a very worst life if he continued to gamble.
I like the idea of self exclusion by begambleaware.org , but this is mostly used by fiat betting sites.

so here is one more responsiblegambling.org, you can find this on every reputable crypto gambling site and can self exclude ourself if you want.
legendary
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December 11, 2023, 10:56:35 AM
#38
What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
In my understanding, I think the actions that this person took were professional actions for themselves in overcoming gambling addiction, maybe he has tried other ways to overcome his gambling addiction but it didn't work, maybe the way he did it was the last decision he made.

We know that the actions to overcome gambling addiction are varied, for me what this person did, for me it was interesting to limit his gambling winnings to under $200, this is an interesting thing that I have never heard or seen, Honestly maybe I would also do the same thing as he did, if my country had a gaming commission like the one in that guy's country, This has a good attraction for overcoming addiction. Whoever that person is, I think 60% of them have succeeded in overcoming gambling addiction.
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December 11, 2023, 10:49:12 AM
#37
Could be a hero.

And that is because most of us aren't aware that this is possible and this is one of the unique stories I guess that we can conclude if someone wants to get out of gambling, there's always a way.

Kudos to him.

But is this story is a real thing or we're just speculating that this can happen in real life and simulations are essential so that if someone encounters it in the future, he/she has an idea how to deal with it?
legendary
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December 11, 2023, 10:48:59 AM
#36
when gambling becomes so "engaging" on a personal level, beyond the possibility of real or not success, I worry about that person because they have actually exceeded a certain threshold.
in general, it is better to have limits in the amount you can play and not in what you can win! Wink
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legendary
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December 11, 2023, 10:44:57 AM
#35
Sounds a very roundabout way of convincing yourself not to gamble.  It wouldnt work for me because its quite often people ask others to collect their winnings.  It happened most famously with a lottery worker who had mastered the system and was giving numbers to his relatives for forthcoming results.  He could never collect the prize himself so had others do it, I presume this is why claiming on a lottery is sometimes forced to be public perhaps.
   Anyhow just attend gamblers help meetings, far better idea and you will meet others who had been chasing their own tail for years also and can advance your thoughts past repeating mistakes hopefully.
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December 11, 2023, 10:40:15 AM
#34
I consider him a hero, considering that he went to such lengths to go to gaming commission and have his name banned by himself just to get himself to stop gambling. There are not many gambling addicts like that, who come to the gaming commission only to have themselves banned, because of the many gambling addicts, most of them don't realize it and even let themselves get lost in their addiction until it destroys their lives and those closest to them.
If the decision is able to solve his gambling addiction then he have done well for himself and at any point in time it should be considered as a hero because to overcome such a level of gambling addiction is something that may seem almost impossible and at some point could be draining,  maybe the individuals have discovered that the only way to do so is to go to the authority and seek for self-exclusion sanctioned and asking for the authority to monitor and sanction him accordingly if he goes beyond what is expected from him as a set limits.

However, I don't know how true and effective this approach is because in some countries where gambling is not regulated or monitored,  it will be hard or even near impossible for some government commissions in some countries to be able to properly follow up with such an approach,  but then if in the gamblers country, such rules are applicable and sustainable for the gambling industry it then means that the gamblers may get all the help he desire from the commission.
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December 11, 2023, 10:36:40 AM
#33
Wait....I don't fully understand the story. He banned himself from gambling, but he was still able to gamble. Additionally, you mentioned that when he gambles, he wouldn't be paid if he wins big, or he would only be paid a maximum of $200.

Does this mean that the casino is allowing him to bet big but would only pay a maximum of $200? Nah, this seems unusual, it could suggest that the casino might be cheating him, or perhaps he fabricated the story. Which is the case?



Tell him to play online, no more banning would happen even if he is too good, unless he's cheating.

lol Casino would love him. He will only get $200 no matter how big his winning is. There is no point in gambling. He must have been high when he decided to exclude himself. He seems to be the guy with extreme thoughts but he is a fool and it would put him in history. The dumbest gambler.

He should just look for something else to play around with rather than sticking to gambling when he isn't allowed to win big.

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December 11, 2023, 10:33:39 AM
#32
I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

I don't think a casino can or will do this unless the court says it's legal and it's valid why will he decline his earnings why not give it straight to his family if he doesn't want his winnings, the winner deserves his winnings otherwise it's cheating on the part of the casino, the casino cannot take action that is not on their terms, they cannot invalidate winnings because of this excuse.

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He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
I don't think this story is true, but it is enough for a casino to ban him based on his request he should not be charged for trespassing, anyway he cannot get in because of the tight security in a casino, this kind of method is hard to work because you can always go to other casinos or play online if you have a strong urge to play.
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December 11, 2023, 10:20:04 AM
#31
What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
First of all the person is clearly very confident despite the fact that he has been flagged by the casino. But if he is indeed confident in his poker playing skills then he should choose a different casino to visit and apply the same skills to make a profit again. If he continues to force himself to play at the same casino he runs the risk of losing badly and the casino system is very happy with such people.  There is no chance of coming twice if the case is like this. Whether the person's actions are reckless or brave enough it all depends  on how skilled the poker player is.

We don't see the real situation here. Here's my take, if a gambler is banned from a casino, that could only mean one thing, he is very talented and he could bankrupt a casino if they continue accepting him to play. They are just minimizing or eliminating the damage to protect their business.

Banning means eliminating, but limiting is just minimizing the damage.

However, for a guy who have the skills in poker, he should be able to find ways to fully utilizing his talent, so why stick only in physical casino while we have online casinos?

That makes sense, in my opinion he should move casinos to do his skills, even if not with physical casinos, he can do it with online casinos. because gambling that is currently popular is also online gambling in my opinion.  he can do it in other casino places. that way he can use his skills. so in my opinion he doesn't have to gamble only there. because of different luck that can make him lucky in other casinos with his skills that he has.

Don't settle for just one casino, because as far as I know, even with online gambling for example, when someone gets a big win and he cashes it out, there are those who say that people who have got a big win will no longer easily get a win, whether big or small. I don't know if it's clear whether it's true or not. but I myself also feel that way because I once got a big win and returned to the same online gambling there was no more winnings given even though I had spent a  lot of money that was almost equivalent to the winnings I had got before.
hero member
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December 11, 2023, 09:30:42 AM
#30
Definitely a fool, if he already went to a gaming commission to have his name blacklisted or banned then shouldn't his gambling habits have stopped because he was banned or flagged whatever? But as the story goes on, this person can still get into these casinos and still play but only get a 200 USD win, man can still waste money and not be able to bring back a profit because he can't win big which is stupid, if you're not stopping from gambling even after you did those crazy request from the gaming commission then nothing changed because the money spent is still there and he's still gambling.
Logically maybe your thinking is right, it's useless if people block their own names but they can still gamble, and what I'm surprised about is that the limit is only $200 wins, while what if they lose continuously, in the sense that they can still spend a lot of money gambling even more than $5000 dollars without winning.

Unless he also limits the deposits he can make, such as $100 per month maybe it will be much more effective if he really wants to stop gambling, in my opinion such actions are not appropriate, although I also understand that everyone has his own way of controlling his mind and heart, he may have reviewed what he has done.
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