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December 14, 2023, 04:12:43 PM
each person may be different in dealing with their addiction, there are people who limit themselves or self-exclude like he did, where a gambler for whatever reason comes to the gaming commission to get themselves banned. what he did needs to be appreciated because he consciously came to the gaming commission because he realized he was already addicted to gambling and didn't want to stay in it any longer.

It's a lot more better when you realize on your own that you're addicted and that it's already destroying you and could do worse if not handled in time, and then you're working and putting more effort towards fighting his addiction, that way there's absolutely nothing you can't do just to make sure you kill the addiction. Some gamblers are so addicted to gambling but yet they do not acknowledge it and even when you as a friend try to advice them and maybe try to offer help to them, they feel offended for some reason. So I think it's good the guy acknowledged that he was addicted and took such a heroic action towards killing his addiction.
Self-awareness and the ability to recognize and acknowledge addiction are indeed critical steps toward recovery. Nothing is more valuable than doing something positive by your own pure intention. It takes great strength and courage to confront one's own challenges and take proactive measures to address them. it is indeed a heroic action, when a gambler realizes that an addiction is having a detrimental impact on their life, and they actively work towards overcoming it.

Some people may indeed be deeply entrenched in their addiction and may not be receptive to advice or help, even from the closest ones. People may respond defensively when confronted with the reality of their situation, because addiction can be a sensitive and complex issue. But acceptance opens the door to various support circle, whether through friends, family, or professional help, that can aid in the recovery process.
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December 14, 2023, 02:20:05 PM
Self exclusion as others have mentioned. Well it might sound hard to some but it is a valid thing to do especially if it is by his own will or for his own good. Not all people have the initiative to impose self discipline to oneself. To some, cutting the connection or closing the door, is the only way they could restrict oneself from a particular thing. Casinos won't voluntarily do that simply because it would be a loss of customer to them. However if the question is would I be doing the same thing, then the answer is it depends.  If I am not being able to function on a daily basis, then I probably would also do it. But if it is from others then it is just a thing to consider 'coz you know yourself more than anyone else. If you will be left with no choice then you'd be the one to engage with adjustment.
I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I always find it a bit odd when people have to do things like get themselves banned in order to fight a habit. Is it really that difficult to control your own actions? I understand people get addicted to things, but having to go this far in order to get others to keep your habit in check rather than just controlling your own behavior seems odd to me.
Well yes, in some instances there are people who cannot themselves.We are different from one another, we could also make the changes or have our own preferences as well. If those who are getting addicted to this industry are not having the resources to quit something in a proper way,then they often create their solution right away.
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December 14, 2023, 01:54:01 PM
Haven't you heard of self-exclusion in gambling?

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What is self-exclusion?
Self-exclusion means asking one or multiple gambling companies to prevent you from gambling with them for a set length of time, usually between 6 months and 5 years. This means you will not be able to gamble within their venue, or via their website or app. Gambling companies must offer you the option to self-exclude by law.

https://www.begambleaware.org/self-exclusion

So yes, you can do go to the gaming commission and ask yourself to be ban. I know a guy that has been banned, but he didn't do it himself, his wife did. The wife call the casinos and describe his husband and obviously his identification.

And then he told me that he was surprised when he go to a casino and that he was stop and was banned from entering. Later he found out that his wife is the one responsible because that time he was really addicted to that point that he is playing money that did not belong to him (he was a government employee that time).

I did not know that you could self-exclude other people. But perhaps in the case of a husband and wife they are legally seen as having the same bank account or something? His wife obviously really cares about him, otherwise she would have just left without much ado. But instead of picking the simpler option of leaving, she decided to help him out with his addiction. That seems to be a heart warming relationship. He is a very lucky man.

Self exclusion is a really good system.
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December 14, 2023, 12:58:54 PM
For some, it was when they started losing big, is the main cause of their addiction. But this guy here is the opposite. He go back thinking he can win big again but he later realized that it was only a trap prepared by the casinos. I know we can ban our selves in the casino but it's also my first time hearing what he did there of banning himself in the gaming commission.

It was a like a global ban which is a much better solution if we are experiencing a severe gambling problem. He needs to ensure that he can't win big, so he will be forced to bet tiny amounts this time, (which is fine), only to enjoy gambling because totally removing it in our life is very hard. But this guy here still did it after some time. I guess that is even better.
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December 14, 2023, 12:48:42 PM
I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I always find it a bit odd when people have to do things like get themselves banned in order to fight a habit. Is it really that difficult to control your own actions? I understand people get addicted to things, but having to go this far in order to get others to keep your habit in check rather than just controlling your own behavior seems odd to me.
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December 14, 2023, 11:37:41 AM
I probably won't do the same thing he did but I'd most likely look for other ways to stop my addiction, I mean, there are better ways to overcome addiction without risking yourself from being prosecuted. anyway, if the story is true, I'm glad it worked for him, I don't even know if what he said is possible, I mean I know you can do it on an online casino but I am not sure if it is possible on physical casinos.
Agree with you mate there are a lot of ways to overcome addiction's there are a lot of things who can help us away in addiction all we need is a dedication and self control then for sure that addict will overcome snd leave gambling for the rest of his/her life anyways nowadays there are a lot of people who are addicted in gambling and that's the reason why there are many new gambling sites was created.
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December 14, 2023, 11:37:28 AM
If the addiction becomes strong, you can always change the name or take a friend with you. It is easier to hire someone to give a frying pan to the head if in response to the question "where did you go?", this person hears something about casinos.

And what happens if the winnings turn out to be 1 million dollars.
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December 14, 2023, 11:14:40 AM
each person may be different in dealing with their addiction, there are people who limit themselves or self-exclude like he did, where a gambler for whatever reason comes to the gaming commission to get themselves banned. what he did needs to be appreciated because he consciously came to the gaming commission because he realized he was already addicted to gambling and didn't want to stay in it any longer.

It's a lot more better when you realize on your own that you're addicted and that it's already destroying you and could do worse if not handled in time, and then you're working and putting more effort towards fighting his addiction, that way there's absolutely nothing you can't do just to make sure you kill the addiction. Some gamblers are so addicted to gambling but yet they do not acknowledge it and even when you as a friend try to advice them and maybe try to offer help to them, they feel offended for some reason. So I think it's good the guy acknowledged that he was addicted and took such a heroic action towards killing his addiction.
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December 14, 2023, 10:58:53 AM
What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Dude won about $5000 which looks like a huge amount of money. He didn't actualize anything with it but felt he could double, triple or quadruple the money but ended up losing everything to bookies. I guess he must have ran into debts trying to see if he could be lucky again, but since the luck wasn't forth coming he decided to report him self.

Crazy things what gambling can make one do. His action could be said to be heroic or foolish, depending on what he does afterwards with his life. If he's able to pick up himself, stay away from gambling and become more financially prudent, then he's a hero but if he's just whining, regretting his losses and actions, then he's foolish.
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December 14, 2023, 10:09:46 AM
Correct, what he did is something really serious because that person really did an effort to go in his country's Gambling commission just to report himself as gambling addict. In that way, He proves to us that he intentionally wants to get rid his addiction however it's not that easy as it will take a lot of time to become addicted free and it requires professional help too.
If he aware with his own addiction, I guess he should be aware for taking next step when his addiction is not completely cured. The chance for such people to move on and start a new journey as a mindful person is high, not like addict who wasn't aware of his own addiction and even though all of close people with him already ask him to stop, he won't stop and might commit suicide when the worst case happen.
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December 14, 2023, 10:02:56 AM
A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.
Some persons in life has really accepted settling for less and living comfortably in poverty.
I think such a gambler is one of the categories because I don't understand why he would pick to be addicted simply because he won a $5K. That is to say he can not utilize expensive or luxurious opportunities ( high incomes) instead he lives by making good live in earning pennies (low incomes)

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.
I don't see any difference changed in his gambling carriers here as a form of keeping a responsible gambling.
His name wasn't successful banned from the casino as long he still visits the casino to bet. There is no smart move about this. So does it mean if he finds an obvious big winning he wouldn't place a stake to it? Well, let me assume he is limited to the $200 in a winning but he was not limited to how long he is limited to stay in the casino or the limited number of times he is permitted to place his bet on a schedule.
So I think if he sees a $100K obvious winning, he would bet on the game in multiples rounds so he could take chances and accumulate the huge winning instead of a per bet that is to bridge his proposed agreement with the casino commissions.
If yes on this track, yeah there is absolutely no different of his formal and now gambling life.
Also, does banning of his name in the casino commission qualifies that he would maintain a reputable gambling? Of course not because he can always have a used of other names.

The thing is that you can't have yourself handcuffed while drowning in the water and you have the keys to get yourself unlocked and you just watch yourself drown because every suicidal by drowning do struggles to get back to life.
The story of this gambler is not clear to me and when did the casino commission become an institution to execute prosecution of gamblers trespassing a winning limit?
Because I know the casino need to make more money and wouldn't do that so if he is mean then he should get himself reported to the police and get listed on a watchlist.
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December 14, 2023, 08:04:33 AM
A hero to himself but a fool to others.

This is simply how I see it because of the fact that he cannot control himself hence the Fool and because he did it to himself to save himself, then he is a hero for himself. That's just how I see it and if that's the only way he can, then it's good he did it to help himself.

A weird take on this is he can still play. I mean I would understand if it's online but if it's land based, it's still weird. It's like the ban is not there if he could still play. The Hero turned into a Fool since it's like that lol.

His method might seem foolish to some and heroic to others, but so far it worked for him even if the move might seem foolish, in the end it stopped his gambling addiction, then I guess he is the conquering hero. I once read in a book that result is more important than method, so the end justifies the means, because he was able to use a method that seems foolish to most of us, then eventually got his desired result, I'll have to label him a winner and hero. What if he had chosen a more convenient method like getting help through therapy and in the end he still finds himself in casinos, still losing money? So in conclusion, it's better to use foolish method and get the job done than to use wise method without positive result.
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December 14, 2023, 07:04:22 AM

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

If you want to really stop an addicttion then you have to take a very stringent step to do that otherwise you will see yourself going back to it from time to time. So if this person has gone to gambling commission of his country to ban himself from gambling it means he is serious about what he wants and that is good.

He is not a fool but would have been a fool if he has kept pretending to himself that he would stop gambling whilst he kept losing on it. Someone who wants to stop an addicttion need to go the mile to achieve it like he has done for himself which is really a step in the appropriate direction and from the information, he has not gambled for the past 10 years and perhaps would have saved more money more than if he was still gambling.
Correct, what he did is something really serious because that person really did an effort to go in his country's Gambling commission just to report himself as gambling addict. In that way, He proves to us that he intentionally wants to get rid his addiction however it's not that easy as it will take a lot of time to become addicted free and it requires professional help too.
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December 14, 2023, 05:40:49 AM
But there are still many people who cannot exercise self-control, so they still experience a lot of losses from gambling. Perhaps they still underestimate this issue of self-control so much that they don't really want to learn it, even if they have experienced loss before. But if they are really serious about stopping their gambling activities, they will definitely look for all the methods they know and do them. And in that case, we can learn something new to be able to stop gambling activities. It may seem like forcing the person to stop gambling immediately, but perhaps he feels that this is the only way he can really reduce his gambling activities and even stop him from gambling.

All individuals that cannot exercise self control when they're gambling won't be good gamblers and they cannot make profits. Self control is very important as it can make you to avoid losses from gambling with emotions or chasing after losses that'll only lead to you losing more of you money instead of making profits. If you notice you don't have self control, you have to stop gambling further to work on your emotions or it'll make you to lose your entire money.

OP did what he had to do to help himself as no body is there to help you as casinos are only after profits so they'll do everything they can to make you stay addicted if it isn't making them to lose money but when you keep winning then they'll claim they're helping you as you're becoming addicted but the main reason is so you don't make them to lose. Addictions doesn't just happen, it develop slowly therefore we should be observing ourselves when we're gambling and we won't get addicted.
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December 14, 2023, 05:16:05 AM

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

If you want to really stop an addicttion then you have to take a very stringent step to do that otherwise you will see yourself going back to it from time to time. So if this person has gone to gambling commission of his country to ban himself from gambling it means he is serious about what he wants and that is good.

He is not a fool but would have been a fool if he has kept pretending to himself that he would stop gambling whilst he kept losing on it. Someone who wants to stop an addicttion need to go the mile to achieve it like he has done for himself which is really a step in the appropriate direction and from the information, he has not gambled for the past 10 years and perhaps would have saved more money more than if he was still gambling.
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December 14, 2023, 04:25:01 AM
I wouldn't call him a hero or a fool because he simply did what he needed to do in his situation. He was losing more than he could afford to lose and he had to find a solution to stop that. I think he made a good and brave decision by doing that. Not everyone addicted gambler can take steps like that because addicted gamblers mostly don't realize where they are going and what they are getting themselves into, even if some of them do, they don't do anything to stop that from happening.

Only a small number of addicted gamblers can manage to take such steps where they finally decide to do something about their addiction, and if they do it themselves, without having any assistance from others, that's commendable in my opinion. I would applaud an addicted gambler if they manage to get out of their addiction without personal or professional help.
I totally agree with your point on the subject because the young man in question was intentional with his action which he did to regulate his excesses in gambling. For an addicted gambler to help himself overcome his addiction in gambling, he must firstly accept his fate as a gambling addict before he can start applying measures that'll help him overcome his addiction and carefully looking at the story of discussion, the man in question has already accepted that he's lost more than he's gained hence the need to regulate himself.

It was indeed a bold step to regulate himself by going to the authorities and report himself as a gambling addict who's seeking for help to stop his addiction and that was why his name was flagged but the incessant urge to gamble still didn't stop him from going to casinos to gamble even when he knows that his name has been flagged. In my own opinion he's a hero who truly wants to get rid of an addiction that's messed up his financial life.
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December 14, 2023, 04:20:17 AM
What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

No, not definitely a fool but I can't call him a hero yet unless if he successfully become free from uncontrollable gambling urges. What he does is actually a self-exclusion, a voluntary act of preventing ones self to enter casinos or even playing it online. However, one can still register in an online casino using a different identity, so this is the reason why I can't call him a hero yet because there are still a lot of ways he can participate and feed his gambling urges even though he is already prohibited in a land based casino. Nonetheless, it's most probably going to be a successful way of beating gambling addiction since he have done this necessary step himself.
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December 14, 2023, 04:08:59 AM
What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

He did the right thing. The fact is, there is no ultimate joy in gambling. Just like any instant gratification, gambling. prostitution, drugs, alcohol, etc., it may feel great in the very short term but after the high is over, very rarely will you feel better afterward...and the more you do it, the more damage you will do to yourself, and if you are limited to not being able to achieve instant gratification, just like the man in your example, then it will feel pointless and joyless.

It's not insane, it's called being responsible...and being responsible is neither gratifying or enjoyable in the short term, but can be when looking back in the long term.
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December 14, 2023, 03:50:55 AM
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Of course, that's not an easy thing to do and not just a gambling addiction, I think addiction to other things will also be difficult to get rid of, because addiction is a condition that makes a person lose control over something and this is usually inherent in the person who is making it difficult for him to get rid of this addiction, especially since it is impossible in a short time. Of course, getting rid of this addiction takes a long time, because it has to be done gradually, it cannot happen all at once. There are many stages that must be carried out and passed through, and as far as I know, these stages are not easy and can even torture someone who wants to get rid of this addiction, especially with gambling or drug addiction. Of course someone must be in rehabilitation to recover from addiction.

and that's normal, because everyone who gambles of course hopes for a big win, and that small win is what convinces them to get a big win, even though they have lost a lot, they will continue to chase that big win. Also, if they get a big win like that, it can't cover the defeats and losses they have had before, where the losses are not in small amounts.

The feeling of addiction is not innate, the feeling of addiction can arise because of a bad habit that is carried out, due to the inability to control oneself from the activities that one does. He is too engrossed in the gambling activities he is doing, so that when he has free time the first thing that comes to mind is gambling, even when he is working what comes to mind is gambling.

Let's not talk too much about drug addiction, we will talk about things that are closer. And the fact is that nowadays people are very addicted to cellphones. Even in carrying out daily activities, a person cannot be separated from a cellphone. Likewise for me personally, I am quite addicted to cellphones, even when I wake up, the first thing I look for is a cellphone even though no one is calling or sending messages. and before sleeping, the last thing I saw was my cellphone.

And back to gambling, as I mentioned above, when someone is addicted to gambling, what they have in mind is gambling and getting a big win. And that is what makes it difficult for a person to get out of gambling, because gambling continues to haunt his mind.

Yes, that's right, addiction is not a natural trait from the moment a person is born, but is something they usually do and tends to make them happy. but this addiction is also because they themselves caused it, because they themselves cannot control themselves as you said. and in my opinion this kind of thinking must be eliminated, otherwise they will be easily tempted by what they think is happy. This has become a common thing, not only for you, but in my opinion, most people cannot be away from their cell phones because cell phones have become the main thing in life today, because cell phones have become a friend for someone who will be taken anywhere and at any time therefore This makes it easier for many people to get to know online gambling, especially with the technology that is currently developing. So you should also avoid excessive cellphone use. because it can lose our focus.

Therefore, it is not easy for them to give up their habits, especially if they are addicted, this will be difficult to get rid of. because their minds are filled with gambling and the victory they want to get, making them  only focus on gambling. Also, if they are addicted to gambling, it will be difficult to leave the gambling that is attached to them, therefore  it is better to reduce gambling activities, because in my opinion prevention is better than cure.
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December 13, 2023, 01:07:13 PM
What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?
I will do everything possible to stop addiction if it is affecting my finances, relationships or health negatively. Some gamblers deserve to be banned from gambling because they have seen gambling as a full-time job. Some of them go to the extent of auctioning their personal belongings to finance gambling. Recently a young man stole a generator in my area because he wanted to gamble. This set of persons needs to be restricted to avoid further misbehaviour. 

I probably won't do the same thing he did but I'd most likely look for other ways to stop my addiction, I mean, there are better ways to overcome addiction without risking yourself from being prosecuted. anyway, if the story is true, I'm glad it worked for him, I don't even know if what he said is possible, I mean I know you can do it on an online casino but I am not sure if it is possible on physical casinos.
I recently commented on a thread today that told the story of a young promising man who committed suicide because he lost a large amount of money on gambling. Taking drastic action to stop gambling addiction could be good especially if it is getting out of hand. It will be better to be banned from gambling than to be in debt, suffer health problems or even commit suicide.     
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