Topic: A hero or a fool? - page 6. (Read 1406 times)

Self exclusion as others have mentioned. Well it might sound hard to some but it is a valid thing to do especially if it is by his own will or for his own good. Not all people have the initiative to impose self discipline to oneself. To some, cutting the connection or closing the door, is the only way they could restrict oneself from a particular thing. Casinos won't voluntarily do that simply because it would be a loss of customer to them. However if the question is would I be doing the same thing, then the answer is it depends.  If I am not being able to function on a daily basis, then I probably would also do it. But if it is from others then it is just a thing to consider 'coz you know yourself more than anyone else. If you will be left with no choice then you'd be the one to engage with adjustment.
Well yes, in some instances there are people who cannot themselves.We are different from one another, we could also make the changes or have our own preferences as well. If those who are getting addicted to this industry are not having the resources to quit something in a proper way,then they often create their solution right away.

I did not know that you could self-exclude other people. But perhaps in the case of a husband and wife they are legally seen as having the same bank account or something? His wife obviously really cares about him, otherwise she would have just left without much ado. But instead of picking the simpler option of leaving, she decided to help him out with his addiction. That seems to be a heart warming relationship. He is a very lucky man.

Self exclusion is a really good system.

For some, it was when they started losing big, is the main cause of their addiction. But this guy here is the opposite. He go back thinking he can win big again but he later realized that it was only a trap prepared by the casinos. I know we can ban our selves in the casino but it's also my first time hearing what he did there of banning himself in the gaming commission.

It was a like a global ban which is a much better solution if we are experiencing a severe gambling problem. He needs to ensure that he can't win big, so he will be forced to bet tiny amounts this time, (which is fine), only to enjoy gambling because totally removing it in our life is very hard. But this guy here still did it after some time. I guess that is even better.

I always find it a bit odd when people have to do things like get themselves banned in order to fight a habit. Is it really that difficult to control your own actions? I understand people get addicted to things, but having to go this far in order to get others to keep your habit in check rather than just controlling your own behavior seems odd to me.

Agree with you mate there are a lot of ways to overcome addiction's there are a lot of things who can help us away in addiction all we need is a dedication and self control then for sure that addict will overcome snd leave gambling for the rest of his/her life anyways nowadays there are a lot of people who are addicted in gambling and that's the reason why there are many new gambling sites was created.

If the addiction becomes strong, you can always change the name or take a friend with you. It is easier to hire someone to give a frying pan to the head if in response to the question "where did you go?", this person hears something about casinos.

And what happens if the winnings turn out to be 1 million dollars.

It's a lot more better when you realize on your own that you're addicted and that it's already destroying you and could do worse if not handled in time, and then you're working and putting more effort towards fighting his addiction, that way there's absolutely nothing you can't do just to make sure you kill the addiction. Some gamblers are so addicted to gambling but yet they do not acknowledge it and even when you as a friend try to advice them and maybe try to offer help to them, they feel offended for some reason. So I think it's good the guy acknowledged that he was addicted and took such a heroic action towards killing his addiction.

Dude won about $5000 which looks like a huge amount of money. He didn't actualize anything with it but felt he could double, triple or quadruple the money but ended up losing everything to bookies. I guess he must have ran into debts trying to see if he could be lucky again, but since the luck wasn't forth coming he decided to report him self.

Crazy things what gambling can make one do. His action could be said to be heroic or foolish, depending on what he does afterwards with his life. If he's able to pick up himself, stay away from gambling and become more financially prudent, then he's a hero but if he's just whining, regretting his losses and actions, then he's foolish.

If he aware with his own addiction, I guess he should be aware for taking next step when his addiction is not completely cured. The chance for such people to move on and start a new journey as a mindful person is high, not like addict who wasn't aware of his own addiction and even though all of close people with him already ask him to stop, he won't stop and might commit suicide when the worst case happen.

Some persons in life has really accepted settling for less and living comfortably in poverty.
I think such a gambler is one of the categories because I don't understand why he would pick to be addicted simply because he won a $5K. That is to say he can not utilize expensive or luxurious opportunities ( high incomes) instead he lives by making good live in earning pennies (low incomes)

I don't see any difference changed in his gambling carriers here as a form of keeping a responsible gambling.
His name wasn't successful banned from the casino as long he still visits the casino to bet. There is no smart move about this. So does it mean if he finds an obvious big winning he wouldn't place a stake to it? Well, let me assume he is limited to the $200 in a winning but he was not limited to how long he is limited to stay in the casino or the limited number of times he is permitted to place his bet on a schedule.
So I think if he sees a $100K obvious winning, he would bet on the game in multiples rounds so he could take chances and accumulate the huge winning instead of a per bet that is to bridge his proposed agreement with the casino commissions.
If yes on this track, yeah there is absolutely no different of his formal and now gambling life.
Also, does banning of his name in the casino commission qualifies that he would maintain a reputable gambling? Of course not because he can always have a used of other names.

The thing is that you can't have yourself handcuffed while drowning in the water and you have the keys to get yourself unlocked and you just watch yourself drown because every suicidal by drowning do struggles to get back to life.
The story of this gambler is not clear to me and when did the casino commission become an institution to execute prosecution of gamblers trespassing a winning limit?
Because I know the casino need to make more money and wouldn't do that so if he is mean then he should get himself reported to the police and get listed on a watchlist.

His method might seem foolish to some and heroic to others, but so far it worked for him even if the move might seem foolish, in the end it stopped his gambling addiction, then I guess he is the conquering hero. I once read in a book that result is more important than method, so the end justifies the means, because he was able to use a method that seems foolish to most of us, then eventually got his desired result, I'll have to label him a winner and hero. What if he had chosen a more convenient method like getting help through therapy and in the end he still finds himself in casinos, still losing money? So in conclusion, it's better to use foolish method and get the job done than to use wise method without positive result.

Correct, what he did is something really serious because that person really did an effort to go in his country's Gambling commission just to report himself as gambling addict. In that way, He proves to us that he intentionally wants to get rid his addiction however it's not that easy as it will take a lot of time to become addicted free and it requires professional help too.

All individuals that cannot exercise self control when they're gambling won't be good gamblers and they cannot make profits. Self control is very important as it can make you to avoid losses from gambling with emotions or chasing after losses that'll only lead to you losing more of you money instead of making profits. If you notice you don't have self control, you have to stop gambling further to work on your emotions or it'll make you to lose your entire money.

OP did what he had to do to help himself as no body is there to help you as casinos are only after profits so they'll do everything they can to make you stay addicted if it isn't making them to lose money but when you keep winning then they'll claim they're helping you as you're becoming addicted but the main reason is so you don't make them to lose. Addictions doesn't just happen, it develop slowly therefore we should be observing ourselves when we're gambling and we won't get addicted.

If you want to really stop an addicttion then you have to take a very stringent step to do that otherwise you will see yourself going back to it from time to time. So if this person has gone to gambling commission of his country to ban himself from gambling it means he is serious about what he wants and that is good.

He is not a fool but would have been a fool if he has kept pretending to himself that he would stop gambling whilst he kept losing on it. Someone who wants to stop an addicttion need to go the mile to achieve it like he has done for himself which is really a step in the appropriate direction and from the information, he has not gambled for the past 10 years and perhaps would have saved more money more than if he was still gambling.

I totally agree with your point on the subject because the young man in question was intentional with his action which he did to regulate his excesses in gambling. For an addicted gambler to help himself overcome his addiction in gambling, he must firstly accept his fate as a gambling addict before he can start applying measures that'll help him overcome his addiction and carefully looking at the story of discussion, the man in question has already accepted that he's lost more than he's gained hence the need to regulate himself.

It was indeed a bold step to regulate himself by going to the authorities and report himself as a gambling addict who's seeking for help to stop his addiction and that was why his name was flagged but the incessant urge to gamble still didn't stop him from going to casinos to gamble even when he knows that his name has been flagged. In my own opinion he's a hero who truly wants to get rid of an addiction that's messed up his financial life.

No, not definitely a fool but I can't call him a hero yet unless if he successfully become free from uncontrollable gambling urges. What he does is actually a self-exclusion, a voluntary act of preventing ones self to enter casinos or even playing it online. However, one can still register in an online casino using a different identity, so this is the reason why I can't call him a hero yet because there are still a lot of ways he can participate and feed his gambling urges even though he is already prohibited in a land based casino. Nonetheless, it's most probably going to be a successful way of beating gambling addiction since he have done this necessary step himself.

He did the right thing. The fact is, there is no ultimate joy in gambling. Just like any instant gratification, gambling. prostitution, drugs, alcohol, etc., it may feel great in the very short term but after the high is over, very rarely will you feel better afterward...and the more you do it, the more damage you will do to yourself, and if you are limited to not being able to achieve instant gratification, just like the man in your example, then it will feel pointless and joyless.

It's not insane, it's called being responsible...and being responsible is neither gratifying or enjoyable in the short term, but can be when looking back in the long term.

Yes, that's right, addiction is not a natural trait from the moment a person is born, but is something they usually do and tends to make them happy. but this addiction is also because they themselves caused it, because they themselves cannot control themselves as you said. and in my opinion this kind of thinking must be eliminated, otherwise they will be easily tempted by what they think is happy. This has become a common thing, not only for you, but in my opinion, most people cannot be away from their cell phones because cell phones have become the main thing in life today, because cell phones have become a friend for someone who will be taken anywhere and at any time therefore This makes it easier for many people to get to know online gambling, especially with the technology that is currently developing. So you should also avoid excessive cellphone use. because it can lose our focus.

Therefore, it is not easy for them to give up their habits, especially if they are addicted, this will be difficult to get rid of. because their minds are filled with gambling and the victory they want to get, making them  only focus on gambling. Also, if they are addicted to gambling, it will be difficult to leave the gambling that is attached to them, therefore  it is better to reduce gambling activities, because in my opinion prevention is better than cure.

I will do everything possible to stop addiction if it is affecting my finances, relationships or health negatively. Some gamblers deserve to be banned from gambling because they have seen gambling as a full-time job. Some of them go to the extent of auctioning their personal belongings to finance gambling. Recently a young man stole a generator in my area because he wanted to gamble. This set of persons needs to be restricted to avoid further misbehaviour. 

I recently commented on a thread today that told the story of a young promising man who committed suicide because he lost a large amount of money on gambling. Taking drastic action to stop gambling addiction could be good especially if it is getting out of hand. It will be better to be banned from gambling than to be in debt, suffer health problems or even commit suicide.     

I believe this is an story of someone who was mostly dealing with brick-and-mortar casinos, to be honest. Perhaps this also happened in an era where online casinos were not as common as they are today. Because I cannot conceive all online Casinos are so well coordinated in order to ban certain individual at the request of themselves with such a widespread manner. Usually, as we all know, exclusion programs only apply to specific services and platforms and do not affect the experience on others.
So if you had my guess, this story is from a country where Brick-and-mortar casinos were more available than online ones and also where gambling law allows one to get blacklisted nationwide in an irreversible way.

There is also a chance this whole story to be frictional and someone just said that to OP for whatever reason.
Anyways, regardless of whether this is true or not, it is an interesting system, indeed.