Topic: A hero or a fool? - page 8. (Read 1406 times)

It's possible to have yourself be self-excluded in every gambling site there is so that you can avoid playing and betting to prevent or cure addiction. As far as I know, anyone can do this, you just have to request it. There were few times I've seen people requesting to be self-excluded by sending it through email and some even chats with the moderator or the likes to let them be aware they wanted to be out of the list of the allowed people to play. So casinos block their email and their name so they can't access the application or website. Although I haven't heard one to do this in physical casinos. But I guess it's also applicable, given that it his the actual person who requested.

Maybe we can call this a working strategy for some to eliminate gambling habits and totally quit. But it has its challenges. That's why it's still better to consult a professional and treat addiction with rehabilitation and counselling.

The casino he won the $5000 from at that time should have cashed out all the money and not gone to that casino because as you said his name was automatically rejected from that machine. A country doesn't have only one casino because there were multiple casinos so it had to go to other casinos and gamble on a limited scale. If he went to another casino and gambled, he might have a chance to win big money from the other casino as well. Gamblers and gamblers who win large sums of money develop in their minds a desire for more and more profits, and from that desire they gamble more and more money, as a result of which, in most cases, they lose all their money in a hurry.

Do you know the meaning of addiction at all? Its effect could be so damning, so you can't blame anyone in that category, you should rather support their brave move if they get to any lengths to get themselves cured of it. Calling him a fool still baffles me as the guy is already healed, didn't the plan work? So why still call him a fool? After a whole 10 years since the step was taken, he is yet to play a single game, and that is the purpose of the reportage so that he can find another means to help himself if you don't know. Maybe you will also call those who are seeking external help to fix themselves psychologically foolish even as they visit psychologists, psychiatrists and therapists. See, the mental states of everyone are not the same, and you can't judge them for it. And what works for you might not work for others, and what you didn't expect might work for others, and it's good for them to go for it.

I believe people should rather learn from the testimony of the guy and not ridicule him. Even governments can learn from this and add it to their gambling law for their citizens in case they are battling gambling addiction and have tried other means that didn't work. Our mental strength varies, I have a strong one by the grace of God but I will never condemn those who are having the weakness because you never can tell if that is how they were made. But fighting it and finding a solution above all odds makes them heroic, not otherwise as you claimed, after all, gambling is not by force.

Of course, that's not an easy thing to do and not just a gambling addiction, I think addiction to other things will also be difficult to get rid of, because addiction is a condition that makes a person lose control over something and this is usually inherent in the person who is making it difficult for him to get rid of this addiction, especially since it is impossible in a short time. Of course, getting rid of this addiction takes a long time, because it has to be done gradually, it cannot happen all at once. There are many stages that must be carried out and passed through, and as far as I know, these stages are not easy and can even torture someone who wants to get rid of this addiction, especially with gambling or drug addiction. Of course someone must be in rehabilitation to recover from addiction.

and that's normal, because everyone who gambles of course hopes for a big win, and that small win is what convinces them to get a big win, even though they have lost a lot, they will continue to chase that big win. Also, if they get a big win like that, it can't cover the defeats and losses they have had before, where the losses are not in small amounts.

 It is very difficult for a gambling addict to escape from his gambling activities and get rid of his addiction in just a moment. Everything must be done gradually until finally someone can really escape from this activity. and that is what makes someone keep returning to the casino even though at the previous time he had decided to stop his gambling activities.

And the person the OP told me about, he did the same thing where he tried slowly and gradually until finally he could escape from his gambling habit. The person is not stupid but he is a smart person, because he knows that what makes a person return to gambling is a small win that they get and a big win that they keep dreaming about.
With the restrictions he imposes on his gambling, he really can't dream of a big win. Because even if he gets it, he will still only receive a small portion of the big win he gets.

That's a way that really tortures him, why does he have to be like someone who is locked up, so he can't enjoy life outside, there are so many places to visit, at least look for peace and life outside, there are lots of places to calm your mind as long as you don't bring your cell phone so you can focus more on enjoying the view. also enjoy the atmosphere outside, why should he be locked up in his room, is it possible that the atmosphere and environment outside will bring him back to gambling?

I think it would also be painful if I had to do that, there must be a more humane option to stop addiction, for example my close friend, he busies himself more with family and work so he doesn't have time on his cell phone even though he still gambles at least he reduces it drastically. Slowly, addiction is caused by bad habits carried out excessively, so reducing the habit should be the way to cure it. When the desire to gamble starts to decrease, that's when the gambling addiction heals slowly without torturing him.

It wasn't a self-inflicted act to kick his gambling addiction because he probably knew that if he didn't do that, he would probably lose even more money. He felt that it was all he could do to stop his gambling addiction so he decided to do it. Actually, he could have used other methods, but it seemed he didn't want to find and use them, so he finally chose to use that method.

I will not do something like that but will look for another, easier way. I will ask for help from the people closest to me to help me overcome my gambling addiction so that I can cure it. I am sure that if there is a will to search and find the right way, I can cure his gambling addiction. Each person will choose what he thinks is best in stopping his gambling addiction and the method he takes may seem strange to other people. But if it's to cure their gambling addiction, people can do anything.

Some people are wired this way you know, one second they make the right decision and after some minutes later they surrender to their addicts, I guess this man can't control himself that's why he took this step, knowing that it will stop his addiction and probably increase his fear of gambling, to me I believe he did the right thing.

I knew few gamblers that vowed to stop gambling for good but they can't help it but fall to the mercy of gambling later, if this is the only way you can beat your addiction and you can at one time or even a day make the right decisions to stop gambling and after some time the hunger still comes it's better to force yourself to taking such step.

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There was this guy, a friend of my brother, who locked himself up in his room years ago, there was no access to the internet using smartphones then, unless you visits the cyber cafe, he did this for few months to stop his addiction and his food was been delivered through the window every time, he ended up succeeding and that's because he made the right choice for himself.

It could be foolish, but it worked for him. I mean he knows himself too well even with the restriction on having his name banned from gambling he still went back and gambled, he just needed a good reason for him to stop gambling by not letting him win big whenever he hits a jackpot or winning since this will flag his name in the casino he's been playing with. Without him getting the full amount of winnings from gambling this gave him enough reason to stop going back to casinos which I think is a good win for him, the process could look foolish but as long as the result great I think it's still a good outcome.

How can it be that his name has been banned but the casino still allows him to play and only limits the winnings he will receive, this is quite unreasonable in my opinion, because in online casinos when you have applied for self-exclusion then you will not be able to make deposits to the casino Even though I have read that there are players who complain because they have applied for self-exclusion and it has been accepted but they can still make deposits and what makes them complain is because they lost their entire deposit while gambling, I mean if your name has been banned it means you can no longer gamble. Self-exclusion might be successful in making someone stop gambling, but for online casinos, players who are already addicted just need to create another casino account to continue playing, but I don't really understand how self exclusion works because I've never done it.

Based on the story, I can see that guy so disperate about gambling. He could be an example of a first win trap victim himself. I can see that gamblers who are irresponsible sometimes will end this way. That is why it is too important for us to set our limits before anything else to avoid addiction and making mistakes with our decisions.

This is the first time I know of a case where a gambler can go to a gaming commission or a gaming provider and can clearly request that his name be blacklisted by the system because he previously lost a lot of money.
For things related to being banned or limiting gambling site accounts, it might happen and many people say this because they win more, but this case is different from what you said.

But what's really great is that there is one thing that I can admire, namely that he found out his name was registered in the system and couldn't win a large amount then he decided to stop and stay away from all forms of gambling.
Maybe this is one way to stop gambling and recover from addiction, but not all countries have permits for gambling and those who play online cannot do this.

self-exclude maybe I've heard of this in offline and online gambling but I wonder why if he limits himself to a certain casino the casino should never allow him to gamble again but from OP story the gambler can still gamble, it's just that winnings are limited. I think it's not about limiting yourself if the gambler is still allowed to gamble but only limiting his winnings or budget and this effort is a little ridiculous on the part of the gambler and what is even more ridiculous is that he limits himself by going to the gaming commission to limit himself but still trying to gamble throw more money away and if lucky only get no more than $200.

there are still many ways to stop being addicted to gambling but you dont have to use this method, but everyone has different ways and the way for me that is smoother and more comfortable is to ask for help from a psychologist to help provide education or any medicine to forget about gambling and try to ask for help. help to the family in any way that is more comfortable than limiting oneself but as if being cheated by the casino he often goes to.

Also note that a lot of lives have been ruined too through gambling addiction. Gambling addicts always believe one day they will make it big through gambling and they dedicate their lives to it until they lose everything.
His decision must have been a tough one for him to make. It was obvious that the activity which once gave him so much excitement was now becoming a problem to him. After considering all he has lost and how his social life has been affected,  hence the decision to discourage himself from gambling. Gambling on its own is not bad, it is the addiction to gambling that is dangerous.

Often times,  gamblers Rejoice over big wins and forget in a rush all they have lost and things that have been affected the previous days. Most times it is not all about the money, the young man clearly needed to fix himself. The only error in his decision is him limiting his gamble wins while being allowed to gamble at the casinos.  An outright ban for a stipulated period of time would have been better. This will ensure he does not keep enriching the casinos at his own expense.

That is one of the options to stop a gambler from his addiction, but it doesn't work for most of the addicted gamblers. In fact, family and friends can also be an oil to the fire. If the family and friends are not open to gambling, there is a possibility that they discriminate against the gambling addict, which could cause the gambler to be more depressed and gamble more. And the most important thing is that even if the family and friends will support or help the gambling addict, if the person itself doesn't help himself, then there is no point or it's useless. The help should come first from the person who's addicted, not from anyone; they can only guide and support, but they should never be the ones who decide if they want a change. No matter what help a gambling addict gets, if he doesn't have the mindset to change, then there's nothing that could help him.

And also, don't forget that the gambler should have the will to change his lifestyle.
Because if it is only because of his family or friends, he can easily go back to gambling.
The change is not easy, so the gambler have to battle his inner demons to overcome this phase of his life.
But for sure, if he surpassed this challenge, he will thank himself for not digging his own grave on this habit.

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I read the comments and i think people missed the vital truth. The guy that won 5000$ is already addicted; He is a gambling addict before he won the sum of 5000$ from the poker machine. The winning was simply the trigger neccessary for everyone to notice glaringly that he is addicted.

its easy to stop addiction; friends and family needs to step in and help him, mentally and medically

If someone is addicted to gambling, they should ask relatives for help to get rid of the addiction. This is the best way for them to get out of the swamp. Gambling addiction causes dire consequences. They understand the severity of gambling and are trying to escape as quickly as possible.
In gambling, if someone cannot control themselves, they should stop as soon as possible. Stay far away from gambling. I have seen many people ruin their lives because of gambling addiction.

We sometimes are not sure of how and the means through which we will become successful financially, Gambling has realistically made some people richer. Some of the people gambling has made rich never expected that they were going to get a fortune from gambling. If there was ever going to be a chance of him becoming financially successful through gambling, he has shut that door with this very wrong decision. I am very perplexed because I actually thought he excluded himself from gambling entirely not limiting himself to what he can win.

WOW! Actually, this is the 1st time I heard of this self-exclusion thing imagine you will exclude yourself from gambling at a given point in time well not for that long period of months and years I am talking about days or maybe an hour you can surely take advantage to that given time or interval for sure a great gambler will make used of this kind of situation if he already lost it or he is making a lot of money depending on the time given he is banned then he will eventually stop for sure this is to keep him from losing any further or making bets any further then controlling his risk of getting addicted or maybe saving something from gambling and for the house to not take his given money,

If what I think really works then I think that will be great and can be used in anyone's advantage, but if the self-exclusion didn't work that way then there are some better things that anyone can make used of it,