Topic: A hero or a fool? - page 7. (Read 1315 times)

I believe this is an story of someone who was mostly dealing with brick-and-mortar casinos, to be honest. Perhaps this also happened in an era where online casinos were not as common as they are today. Because I cannot conceive all online Casinos are so well coordinated in order to ban certain individual at the request of themselves with such a widespread manner. Usually, as we all know, exclusion programs only apply to specific services and platforms and do not affect the experience on others.
So if you had my guess, this story is from a country where Brick-and-mortar casinos were more available than online ones and also where gambling law allows one to get blacklisted nationwide in an irreversible way.

There is also a chance this whole story to be frictional and someone just said that to OP for whatever reason.
Anyways, regardless of whether this is true or not, it is an interesting system, indeed.

Certain casinos can actually prohibit a person from entering their establishment due to winning too much. According to this ARTICLE, Dana White was banned from a certain casino since he won too much money (approximately ~$7 million) in a single night.¹


Well if I am addicted to gambling and there is a prohibition for me to gamble, then I would actually be compelled to stop. If the establishment themselves are the ones limiting my bets, then I would definitely feel betrayed which can contribute to me quitting in the first place.

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1 https://ktvz.com/stacker-entertainment/2023/10/31/5-famous-people-whove-been-banned-from-casinos/

The feeling of addiction is not innate, the feeling of addiction can arise because of a bad habit that is carried out, due to the inability to control oneself from the activities that one does. He is too engrossed in the gambling activities he is doing, so that when he has free time the first thing that comes to mind is gambling, even when he is working what comes to mind is gambling.

Let's not talk too much about drug addiction, we will talk about things that are closer. And the fact is that nowadays people are very addicted to cellphones. Even in carrying out daily activities, a person cannot be separated from a cellphone. Likewise for me personally, I am quite addicted to cellphones, even when I wake up, the first thing I look for is a cellphone even though no one is calling or sending messages. and before sleeping, the last thing I saw was my cellphone.

And back to gambling, as I mentioned above, when someone is addicted to gambling, what they have in mind is gambling and getting a big win. And that is what makes it difficult for a person to get out of gambling, because gambling continues to haunt his mind.

But there are still many people who cannot exercise self-control, so they still experience a lot of losses from gambling. Perhaps they still underestimate this issue of self-control so much that they don't really want to learn it, even if they have experienced loss before. But if they are really serious about stopping their gambling activities, they will definitely look for all the methods they know and do them. And in that case, we can learn something new to be able to stop gambling activities. It may seem like forcing the person to stop gambling immediately, but perhaps he feels that this is the only way he can really reduce his gambling activities and even stop him from gambling.

I wouldn't call him a hero or a fool because he simply did what he needed to do in his situation. He was losing more than he could afford to lose and he had to find a solution to stop that. I think he made a good and brave decision by doing that. Not everyone addicted gambler can take steps like that because addicted gamblers mostly don't realize where they are going and what they are getting themselves into, even if some of them do, they don't do anything to stop that from happening.

Only a small number of addicted gamblers can manage to take such steps where they finally decide to do something about their addiction, and if they do it themselves, without having any assistance from others, that's commendable in my opinion. I would applaud an addicted gambler if they manage to get out of their addiction without personal or professional help.

More like a makeup story coming from that guy, defaulting your win or limiting your winning to $200 even with consent is not right there should be a lawyer present to make it legal and binding, the casino maybe violating one of their provision of granting the winner his winning, it's different when he makes a deal that he will give a portion or all his winnings to charity but limiting and keeping your winnings by the casino is not good for the casino's reputation its close to stealing, I don't think we have something like this in our country as I never read something like this happen here in our country.

Yes, I've heard about that.
The most common thing is for a family member to do this, it could be a parent or even a wife... they claim that the person is addicted to gambling and that this is compromising their mental and financial health and also the stability of the family.
These rules differ from one country to another, so I don't know how bureaucratic it must be in each country. However, I believe that the process for requesting self-exclusion is much simpler, but I also don't know if it is possible for the person themselves to be able to remove this self-exclusion as easily as they had to add their name to the blacklist.

Anyway, wouldn't it be interesting if online casinos also had something similar to a common list of excluded players?

What do people call someone who has no self-control over what they are doing? Gambling is what he started by himself, and by right, he is supposed to be able to practice self-control. Although he's decision was not a bad one, if he actually banned his name by himself, then it's just a means he took to help himself from being destroyed by gambling addiction. It's actually true that some people gamble so badly that they could end up in the streets; that's after they might have sold all their belongings just to gambling. I will not classify him as a hero, but he took a wise decision for himself.

I can't wrap my head around how your caption correlates with your context... Why's that? I don't even think it does...

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This man hasn't given full details as to what happened between him and his favourite casinos; how he's got his name flagged in Thier system and how he's been banned to not win more than $200... I think he's gone against the general T/Cs of the gambling commission and probably, his IP and credentials have been reported to the commission by the casinos involved...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

No matter how much effort a gambler puts towards completely quitting gambling, it will all prove abortive, it's possible to take a break from gambling for a little while but quiting completely, I don't think that's possible, at some point you'll still have the urge to gamble again and no matter how hard you try to hold yourself, on day you'll surely fulfill your urge and gamble again, it's  absolutely inevitable. It would've been better you never started. Sometimes I do regret why I learned how to gamble because right now I just wanna stop cos this wasn't what I expected when I decided to gamble lol.

Having that kind of method then it would really be just no better than when you are really that get imprisoned on a cell on which i dont see for it to be that something to be good to be done by someone for them to just to avoid or really trying to get rid of possible addiction on which which we know that we can really be able to avoid up things without having to do such extreme manner on which its not really that good anymore.
Instead on trying to get rid of those addiction, you would really be rather adding up that kind of stress and whatever negative emotions that you would really be able to feel out.

When it comes to self exclusions then i would say that it would really be that somewhat no sense considering that people would really be that still be able to play if they wanted to.
Access nowadays would really be just that simple specially if you do have the money then it wont really be that an issue.This is why everything would really matter
self control and discipline would be always the main talk on here.

Never heard this one. Wow something new. I say he is a fool for making such a decision but I think that he is a hero for overcoming his gambling addiction. It's not something one can get rid of in an overnight. So I what he did can be considered as an act of heroism. I know because I have been there. Those who were an addict at a time knows the feeling. Judging one person from a distance can be very easy. But when one actually go through this only then he knows how hard it is.

It's not a form of torture, it's just a lesson and a corresponding punishment when a person becomes addicted to gambling, when we are in a room with little light and cold, avoiding technological communication, the way we look at life and enjoy it will be different than ever, many people may think this is too extreme and cruel to themselves, but the overall assessment is still a positive result. Outside, it may give us more space but freedom gives us access to bad behavior and not knowing how to appreciate the existing goodness, good and healing by being alone for a few months is better than curing slowly but the possibility of relapse is high

Well, his method worked so definitely not a fool. Hero? Hardly, he just did what he had to do. But anyway, he had balls to do it so he definitely deserves some respect.

I would do the same, but unfortunately this method works only with conventional casinos, you can still gamble online.

Well. I knew there was possible to sign in for self-exclusion in individual casinos, depending on the jurisdiction, but I did not know it was possible for anyone to actually get banned in such a way which would stop one from winning big in any casino nationwide. Quite a harsh system, that guy must have felt completely desperate in order to control his addiction, though I am glad he managed to get his life back on track.
That system obviously does not exist here in my country and I would personally only take such a hard and extreme measure if I was suffering from a crippling addiction to gambling.

I personally believe that gamblers who have realized they suffers from a problem be given the most options and chances for them to recover, I am not such a system would not help to the 100 percent of gamblers in my country, because some of them will just move onto informal gambling, playing cards and roll dices in private events to stay away from the radars of regulated casinos, but if that system at least helps 20 percent of those who opt for it, then it would be worth to try and implement it here and in other places.
I would also like for mental health treatment to be more affordable and widespread, bot only for problem gamblers, but for anyone who believes needs it.

What is the source of this story? It looks fake to me, because if he was really banned from playing at casinos due to having his name labeled in the system, why would they let him enter the casino at first place, and still winning up to 200$ without any warnings? And with so many gambling platforms available on the internet and even illegal land based casinos, why wouldn't he go for any of them to place some bets?

Just because he self-excluded himself from a single or few regulated local casinos, it doesn't mean he is completely out of touch with gambling industry, therefore it also doesn't make sense he is under gambling abstinence for 10 years already.

Or this story was made up, or this guy has stopped gambling for another reasons.

I have never come across such a person who stopped himself from gambling addiction using that method. But it might be good for him because he can avoid using a lot of money to gamble. And if he wins, he can only win as much as $200. It was a big win for most of the people as they only got a little winning amount.

And it's good that he hasn't approached gambling for more than 10 years in that way so it might work for someone who is very serious and dares to choose ways that seem extreme to others. There may be other methods that can also work well for other people because the methods used by each person will definitely be different.

With the aim of curing their gambling addiction, people try every means they know. They won't care if it hurts them because they really want to cure their gambling addiction. If they are successful, they can share their story with other gambling addicts to motivate them.

You are apparently right, there are many gamblers that have such things like the story from the Op, one thing that can make a gambler do so is only if he or she is going too far in terms of gambling.
However, I do not have to blame them because they are just trying to secure their funds and sme time reduce the kind of addictions they have for gamble.

I would do the the same thing but I will not go too far like the addicted gambler, I will do same because I too will want to stop gamble or reduce the kind of love I have for gamble.
Something we should learn not to be too familiar with things do that we will not end up been used to it.

There are many things you can do to not fall victim to gambling addiction. But in the end, everything depends on your will to quit. If you don't try to do it yourself, you will never be able to come out of your gambling addiction. So what he did is a smart thing to do, to be honest. And yes it is an actual thing that you can do to prevent yourself from gambling.
I think if you have made up your mind already that you want to quit gambling, then that's a hero move for sure. He ca still play but not much which will lead to addiction. I think that's a healthy way of preventing himself from gambling.

each person may be different in dealing with their addiction, there are people who limit themselves or self-exclude like he did, where a gambler for whatever reason comes to the gaming commission to get themselves banned. what he did needs to be appreciated because he consciously came to the gaming commission because he realized he was already addicted to gambling and didn't want to stay in it any longer.