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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 05:03:48 AM

I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I think this is illegal, casinos are obliged to pay winners the amount they won, and you cannot strike a deal with a casino that limits your winning to $200 it is a violation of their terms and people will give them negative feedback for trying to take advantage of the winner they can be charge in court and get their license rebuke, its enough that they ban the player in their vicinity based on the person request.

But never declined his winning, here in our country since the casino is being run by our government, they have a rehabilitation program for chronic gamblers, the casino management should refer the guy to a professional and never do a special deal like not allowing to win huge money.

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Well, this is definitely very possible to do, and it's called "self exclusion", this is a very popular means through which addicted gamblers try to cub or reduce their gambling habit, by asking the casino (mostly online casinos) to ban them access to the casino.

This feature is also available in offline/land based casinos as well, i am not particularly sure about going to the gambling commission, but I do know that, one can also exclude themselves from gambling even in offline casinos.
And for me personally, what that guy in question did might look or sound stupid to some persons, or possibly, everyone, but the honest truth remains that, if such move have helped him come out of his addiction to gambling without much hassles, then it's worth it, sometimes, getting something valuable requires sacrificing something of value as well.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 05:03:48 AM

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

First of all the person is clearly very confident despite the fact that he has been flagged by the casino. But if he is indeed confident in his poker playing skills then he should choose a different casino to visit and apply the same skills to make a profit again. If he continues to force himself to play at the same casino he runs the risk of losing badly and the casino system is very happy with such people. There is no chance of coming twice if the case is like this. Whether the person's actions are reckless or brave enough it all depends on how skilled the poker player is.

We don't see the real situation here. Here's my take, if a gambler is banned from a casino, that could only mean one thing, he is very talented and he could bankrupt a casino if they continue accepting him to play. They are just minimizing or eliminating the damage to protect their business.

Banning means eliminating, but limiting is just minimizing the damage.

However, for a guy who have the skills in poker, he should be able to find ways to fully utilizing his talent, so why stick only in physical casino while we have online casinos?

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 05:03:48 AM

I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

This guy is nor an hero nor a fool.He simply is a great gjuy,a guy with huge self determination to achieve what he perceived as the biggest evil threat to his normal economy.We all feel great when we hit a huge win but what happens after is that we experience consecutive losing sessions and despite that we continue to play.This guy got what we lack as people,we insist on try winning while this guy knew deep inside that gambling is pure luck and it is better to quit.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 05:03:48 AM

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

First of all the person is clearly very confident despite the fact that he has been flagged by the casino. But if he is indeed confident in his poker playing skills then he should choose a different casino to visit and apply the same skills to make a profit again. If he continues to force himself to play at the same casino he runs the risk of losing badly and the casino system is very happy with such people. There is no chance of coming twice if the case is like this. Whether the person's actions are reckless or brave enough it all depends on how skilled the poker player is.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 05:03:48 AM

I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He obviously made a heroic move and I applaud him for that. I honestly do not know that something like this exists. But while reading through, I understood that it is something that is very possible. It is called self exclusion. At first it is not easy to undergo, but for someone to make such a decision to limit his freedom, you should understand how deep gambling has wounded him. It must have also spoilt his relationship life if care is not taken.

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 05:03:48 AM

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

$200 being his maximum winning is pointing towards something and it is a great way to regulate gambling and when your max winning is $200, you will have no option than toake gambling a fun rather than means to be super rich.

Quote from: Kemarit on December 11, 2023, 05:10:06 AM

https://www.begambleaware.org/self-exclusion

So yes, you can do go to the gaming commission and ask yourself to be ban. I know a guy that has been banned, but he didn't do it himself, his wife did. The wife call the casinos and describe his husband and obviously his identification.

And then he told me that he was surprised when he go to a casino and that he was stop and was banned from entering. Later he found out that his wife is the one responsible because that time he was really addicted to that point that he is playing money that did not belong to him (he was a government employee that time).

Will this actually work offline? This is achievable in an online situation where his personal information will be blacklisted in all the casino licensed in the country. If it is offline, the wife could succeed in reporting to one casino joint, what if he goes to another neighboring casino or secretly play online?

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 05:03:48 AM

I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

I never read something like this, and if this is impossible, the gaming commission could just refer or help him get therapy or professional help, it's not right that if he wins he will default his wins, and the casino could lose its reputation for denying payment to its winner.
getting your name banned in the casino is possible but denying your prize when you win is not good and you have to get your name banned on all offline casinos and there's also a temptation to play online in case the symptoms persist.
The best approach is to get rid of the urge and not get yourself banned from casinos.

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I consider him a hero, considering that he went to such lengths to go to gaming commission and have his name banned by himself just to get himself to stop gambling. There are not many gambling addicts like that, who come to the gaming commission only to have themselves banned, because of the many gambling addicts, most of them don't realize it and even let themselves get lost in their addiction until it destroys their lives and those closest to them.

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Wait....I don't fully understand the story. He banned himself from gambling, but he was still able to gamble. Additionally, you mentioned that when he gambles, he wouldn't be paid if he wins big, or he would only be paid a maximum of $200.

Does this mean that the casino is allowing him to bet big but would only pay a maximum of $200? Nah, this seems unusual, it could suggest that the casino might be cheating him, or perhaps he fabricated the story. Which is the case?

Tell him to play online, no more banning would happen even if he is too good, unless he's cheating.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 05:03:48 AM

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

This is useless already due to the existence of online casino. I’m not sure either the credibility of the story because there’s no such thing on my country that let you voluntarily list your name to be ban on all casino in your country unless you do something terrible that violate the casino rules but the restrictions will be limited to the specific casino that you made a violation.

As I said above. There’s a lot of ways to play gambling now without relying on IRL casino. I’m not saying it’s a fool move but rather a useless move.

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Quote from: killerfrost on December 11, 2023, 06:31:36 AM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 05:03:48 AM

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

This is a good story, but I don't really think this happened, it's just that the object has a ban and will eventually be broken, and that moment will be when all good stories are thrown into the trash.

Being able to overcome instincts is not easy, and those who can do that always deserve to be honored, and imo it is absolutely right to consider that person a hero. I personally know that with gambling, I sometimes try not to be disappointed with the results, but it's true that betting brings mixed feelings to me. Turning myself into an addict is a stupid thing that I accept, and there is no justification for it, so for those who step in and get out, that bravery is very strong.

first and foremost, can the OP give us the link of that story? so at least we have idea if it is just a made up one. i have never heard of a gambling authority to really implement such action. let alone, a gambler who really did such extent of banning himself to the casinos by restricting himself to the amount of possible winnings.

but if this story was true, i believe that person is thanking himself for making this decision towards gambling. if this can be done, gambling addicts who want to truly change should let their family know about this possible solution. a hard way but it may address their financial troubles and other possible worst nightmares that they will encounter if not taken care of.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 05:03:48 AM

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

This is a good story, but I don't really think this happened, it's just that the object has a ban and will eventually be broken, and that moment will be when all good stories are thrown into the trash.

Being able to overcome instincts is not easy, and those who can do that always deserve to be honored, and imo it is absolutely right to consider that person a hero. I personally know that with gambling, I sometimes try not to be disappointed with the results, but it's true that betting brings mixed feelings to me. Turning myself into an addict is a stupid thing that I accept, and there is no justification for it, so for those who step in and get out, that bravery is very strong.

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Never heard of this story before but if this exists then that guy did himself a favor by actually requesting the casino to self-exclude him. Well, if there are features like this that we can see online then it's possible to ask and request this on physical casinos. I don't know how can that guy be a hero if he's just into himself but can be said that he's a hero on his own by doing such things.

Anyway, let's just have it this way anything that you do for yourself to help you get out of addiction is a good step. Whether it's something crazy like this or even crazier, as long as you're trying hard and helping yourself out then that's the best thing that you're doing because you are initiating things. As they say, if it works then it's not stupid at all, right?

What can be other crazy ways of stopping oneself from addiction? I'm thinking of a lot of gamblers who are dealing with addiction and doing odd but effective ways to help themselves. It is a tough battle to fight your own addiction because there's no one there that's going to do it for you and no other people but you alone can do it.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 05:03:48 AM

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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Weird strategy but as what you said that he succeeded on stopping himself to gamble then that was a heroic move on his part because the main objective has been achieved and hope he is now happy on his gambling-free life.

I just wonder on how he did it, i mean banned himself from winning big amounts in casinos. For me that ban move is like talking to a doctor to treat his addiction in gambling, gradual withdrawal from it as abrupt may cause mental concerns on him.

I really salute this gambling company. Who bravely provides services for someone to stop gambling addiction. In my country it's like a smoking cessation service 😅

A strategic and mutually beneficial step. For gambling companies, this is a kind of marketing system and for someone who wants this service, this is the right place.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 05:03:48 AM

I was reading some comments on line today and a story caught my attention, and I want to know how possible this is.

A guy claimed he won $5000 on a poker machine and that's where his addiction began, and when it get to the point that he lost his rent money to gambling he decide to take matters in his one way.

He proceeded by going to gaming commission and had his name banned by himself, ( Someone please tell me how this is possible?) never seen such in my country before. he claimed he still go back to casinos at times and he knew he can't ever win big again, because his name was flagged in the system, and if he win big they won't pay him.

He said he was limited to winning $200, that anymore than this he would have to sign his name and be subject to prosecution for trespassing. He claimed his move took his joy out from gambling real fast, and now he haven't been near a casino in over 10 years.

What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Surprisingly i haven't heard of this happening in my country, I believe it is happening in most of the countries. If it is allowed in my country i believe majority of people have stop gambling so far, I don't think I will stop gambling the way he did, because no matter what happens, if you have ever gambled and then stop for a while, you will eventually miss the time you spent with your friends when you feel like you could be having fun again. I know it's best to stop gambling when one is becoming addicted to it, the most important thing is to do whatever is necessary for you to stop. If it is best for him to do so, it is well good, but i won't do it, there are numerous steps to follow and stop gambling for a while, not to ban my name from it in that way.

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In my opinion, this gambler did not do enough to protect himself from gambling, because if he has a desire he can easily get to another city and gamble there. Or he will register in one of the casinos where he has not gambled before and will spend money again. In my opinion he needs to fight the cause - gambling addiction - not try to close the doors of the casino.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 11, 2023, 05:10:06 AM

Haven't you heard of self-exclusion in gambling?

What the OP explained is different from self-exclusion. You do not need to go to gaming commission or something like for self-exclusion. You can go for self-exclusion on the gambling site and enable it for certain period of time that you want. Although, what OP explained is similar to self-exclusion. There is nothing like you to pay anything if you have gone for self-exclusion and violet the rules by gambling. Only what would be done is that you will nit be able to access gambling on the site that you enabled self-exclusion and nothing more than that.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 11, 2023, 05:39:20 AM

Weird strategy but as what you said that he succeeded on stopping himself to gamble then that was a heroic move on his part because the main objective has been achieved and hope he is now happy on his gambling-free life.

I just wonder on how he did it, i mean banned himself from winning big amounts in casinos. For me that ban move is like talking to a doctor to treat his addiction in gambling, gradual withdrawal from it as abrupt may cause mental concerns on him.

I think he already has one of the mental illnesses. Allowing yourself to play in a casino and not picking up your winnings is crazy. He will be in endless depression, realizing what he could do with the winnings. If he had already taken the step of abandoning the game, then it would be more logical not to approach it. But the guy seems to have a diagnosis that constantly forces him to pick at his wound more and more.

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It's possible even in online gambling sites. You can actually make a case if they will keep on e-mailing you about promotions and events while you already signed up to be excluded from them because of the gambling addiction problem.

Well, in the case of your story, it's both good and bad for him. He cannot win big means he should not also be allowed to lose big amounts. And now that he won a huge amount he won't be receiving the full of it. He ain't playing/gambling now because of that reason. IMO, that was a successful way to avoid gambling. He can now just relax and never be stressed about when or how he could gamble. Never mind the $5000, I think deleting the urgency to gamble is a better prize than it.
If he receives that amount then he may have not stopped gambling. Right? I think he did the right thing at the end of the day and he will be thankful for it when he remembers what he had done.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 11, 2023, 05:03:48 AM

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What do you think? This is an insanely move on oneself to stop addiction, something done right? Would you do the same if such is possible in your country?

Weird strategy but as what you said that he succeeded on stopping himself to gamble then that was a heroic move on his part because the main objective has been achieved and hope he is now happy on his gambling-free life.

I just wonder on how he did it, i mean banned himself from winning big amounts in casinos. For me that ban move is like talking to a doctor to treat his addiction in gambling, gradual withdrawal from it as abrupt may cause mental concerns on him.

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