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Quote from: zuzie on September 11, 2024, 09:18:54 AM

Yes and the impact is that people will be lazy to find real jobs just relying on their gambling activities they already feel happy when playing gambling often win and profit a lot there.
Yes, sometimes gambling games rely on skills in playing how clever or smart he is to find a way to win.

When you are already winning more than what you think you can earn from your monthly salary, that's when the laziness will start to come, but the gambler will forget that those winnings are not always guaranteed, like the salary that they can earn at the end of every month is, and when someone doesn't have an active source of income, they always end up putting more pressure on gambling than they should since they have considered it their means of survival.

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Quote from: zuzie on September 10, 2024, 10:01:49 AM

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In the end, yes, gambling will always be an activity that can never be predicted, and that is why we are always advised not to make it a place to earn, and that is also the reason why we are always advised to only bet the amount that we can afford to lose, and another thing I will also say that other types of gambling such as sports betting still luck is an important factor.

Of course, if the casino results can be guessed or predicted then the bookies will lose a lot and the gamblers will profit a lot. Grin

And this should really be understood by all gamblers so as not to put too much hope in getting profit here because the fact in the field victory is much smaller and difficult to get by gamblers while defeat and loss are often obtained by gamblers.
Yes, you are right, even sports betting, apart from relying on the skills of the soccer players, gamblers also rely on luck to win in sports betting.

Yes, that is something simple that should be understood by gamblers, but nevertheless it is a fact that gambling will always be an activity that can never be predicted 100% accurately. We must think rationally that no one will want to give you money for free, meaning gambling is not a charity field, casinos create games not to make you rich but only to benefit them with the many defeats that you will experience and of course you will be one of the victims of the casino when from the beginning you see gambling not from all sides such as you only see gambling in terms of its chances of winning.

This is the reason why we must see everything rationally because that way we will understand and know about what we are actually facing, this determines your fate in the future.

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If the person makes a correct prediction but at the same time, the team or the selection is a big doubt that is sure to lose, but they win it. Then for me it's just luck because anyway, after that success the fact is that they also no longer succeed in making a win in the same way. Therefore, gambling really cannot be done in the same way over and over again, because in gambling there will always be random results that certainly cannot be predicted and therefore,I personally would not be surprised if it happened because gambling will always have different results to get a win.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on September 11, 2024, 10:45:25 AM

Percentage of luck that someone can ruin the fixed game? Cheesy

just like Andres Escobar ended up murdered because he missed the penalty kick, while the mafias thinks he will not miss the penalty since he's one of best player in Colombia.

Fixed match do exist, you should watch small leagues, probably in your local, I believe it still happening till now because there are few times some hilarious result happen in my local sport.

Thanks for posting the link about Andres Escobar. I never knew about it and so I read the wiki page and was astonished to read how he was dead.
Was it a fixed match though ? The wiki page did say that he scored an own goal but that could have been a mistake.
I am not denying about fixed matches in general but particular his'.

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Quote from: Su-asa on September 11, 2024, 09:38:16 AM

No one should have to put themself in a precarious situation like this, you need to learn how to take risks by yourself without involving others in it, there's always a possibility that your bet might not be successful. People need to realize that there's nothing like a fixed game, sports betting has a percentage of luck involved. It's quite impressive that a prediction of 6 draw games were successful but this doesn't change the fact that anything would have still happened at the end of the day

Percentage of luck that someone can ruin the fixed game? Cheesy

just like Andres Escobar ended up murdered because he missed the penalty kick, while the mafias thinks he will not miss the penalty since he's one of best player in Colombia.

Fixed match do exist, you should watch small leagues, probably in your local, I believe it still happening till now because there are few times some hilarious result happen in my local sport.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

I once had this guy coming around to bug me with weekend fixtures for coupon draws... Not until someone volunteered to stake heavily on them odds, just to prove to him that the authenticity of his games weren't guaranteed. Since he wasn't in a position to wager the games himself, the agreement was that if anyone wagers and it doesn't cut, he'll have to pay for the loss.. "I was surprised when he readily accepted". His confidence threw me off, but something kept telling me that he's got too much ballsiness for it to not.

Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

No one should have to put themself in a precarious situation like this, you need to learn how to take risks by yourself without involving others in it, there's always a possibility that your bet might not be successful. People need to realize that there's nothing like a fixed game, sports betting has a percentage of luck involved. It's quite impressive that a prediction of 6 draw games were successful but this doesn't change the fact that anything would have still happened at the end of the day

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Quote from: zuzie on September 10, 2024, 10:01:49 AM

Of course, if the casino results can be guessed or predicted then the bookies will lose a lot and the gamblers will profit a lot. Grin

And this should really be understood by all gamblers so as not to put too much hope in getting profit here because the fact in the field victory is much smaller and difficult to get by gamblers while defeat and loss are often obtained by gamblers.
Yes, you are right, even sports betting, apart from relying on the skills of the soccer players, gamblers also rely on luck to win in sports betting.

And maybe if the player can win often and always right with his predictions then I think it's not gambling, maybe more on income while gambling is a game based on luck that can't be predicted to win. Indeed, the chances of winning that the gambler has tend to be smaller than the chances of winning that the bookie has, so players should not expect more in gambling because the difficulty of getting a win in gambling is probably like looking for a needle in a haystack. But there is indeed gambling that must use the skills we have, it can increase victory even though it ultimately ends with luck that will determine the final result, because indeed with games that also involve skills still involve luck. So in my opinion maybe all games that are said to be gambling are games that cannot be predicted with wins that can be obtained easily.

Yes and the impact is that people will be lazy to find real jobs just relying on their gambling activities they already feel happy when playing gambling often win and profit a lot there.
Yes, sometimes gambling games rely on skills in playing how clever or smart he is to find a way to win.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

Are you talking about betting/lottery gambling, where people can't predict the lottery numbers correctly, but they still place bets or they like betting.

If yes, we must understand that humans have two things that are always inherent in their souls, namely: reason and lust, these two things are always in conflict with each other, Reason will determine someone to think positively when they predict the bet they want to bet, that's where reason lies to determine those who like to gamble.

Lust is a different story, if someone is crowned as a game warehouse, generally they don't care if the predictions are correct or not, as long as they have the passion to gamble, whatever they do, it doesn't matter if they win or lose, the important thing is to play, they have a big hope of winning.

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Everything that is called gambling is when the activity cannot be predicted or is not known about what the results will be, I think you have answered your own question, my friend. It will never be called a gambling activity if it turns out that the activity can be predicted.
I quite agree with the analogy said by @zuzie that if gambling could be predicted then of course the casino would go bankrupt, but on the other hand if the activity could be predicted then it would never be legal to be called gambling.
On the other hand, this is also the reason why gambling is always prohibited as a place to make money.

I also agree with you, in gambling if the outcome can be predicted with certainty then we cannot call it gambling. As you said if the correct results were predicted then the casino would have gone bankrupt after some time. Because the games in every casino are arranged in such a way that in the long term that company is profitable. Because they won't give you their own money, they give 1 gambler the jackpot of 10 gamblers' losses, and 20 gamblers' losses they take themselves. This is how a casino operates.

The main attraction of gambling is uncertainty. You have to gamble with uncertainty, and if you are lucky, you can go home with your gambling profit. And if you are unlucky you lose all the money. However, most of the time the probability of loss from gambling is high.

Of course, and I think that is the real concept of gambling, or what is meant is if the activity is an activity that cannot be predicted about the results and involves money or any valuables that are used as something that is bet on by facing two possibilities between winning or losing then clearly that is what is called gambling, while when for example an activity cannot be predicted but does not involve money or any risk then maybe I would call it a game of feelings that can only lead someone to disappointment but without involving losing or getting anything in real terms.

You are right about how the casino scenario in making a profit by giving one jackpot to a gambler and exchanging it for 10 or more losses, usually in that situation the casino still profits because usually the amount of losses experienced by gamblers is always greater than the jackpot they get, but strangely most gamblers really feel enthusiastic when they manage to win the jackpot even though the amount of losses they have experienced is much greater.

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Back to the main question, I can't really tell why most people feel that way, but one thing is very certain: their confidence increases immediately when they predict the first game, which is played as predicted, and they now feel like they have something in them that whispers the correct games to them that others don't have.

One thing is certain that nomatter how good they would be in predicting the right games, there will be some days the game would cut them off and then, they would concur that winning in gambling is based on luck and not about being special in the world of gambling.

Maybe.
Some would not agree with that especially those who are overconfident with their picks. In sports, this cannot be the mindset, you cannot rely on luck, everything should be about analysis if you want your chances to be better than what is being offered.
Luck is a thing that happens when it's unexpected like a buzzer-beater, a sudden score at the right place at the right time, or something like that. But there are those who can see how the game will end up as they look at stats, history, records, points, winning percentage against their opponent, and more.
Those kinds of information could boost the chance of a gambler to win games because some are really predictable especially if it's a heavy favorite that is playing.

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Quote from: Stablexcoin on September 10, 2024, 07:02:15 AM

When gamblers have huge wins or imaginable luck they tend to feel themselves as one who is ordained by God to be a gambling guru. Immediately the mindset changes thinking they can win other bets along the line. Let me just be frank here. I like the guy's confidence as i have been in that position to have won a bet with so much courage even when i know it is something that 98% of people see the impossibility happening. Yet, i did not think that i would be lucky in other games. The luck I had was a very big one, in as much as i shouldn't expect it to happen always like that doesn't mean I should stop trying because it might still happen again. We are not gurus in gambling, we are not professionals so we should be thankful when we win.

All this is exactly so, and for some reason in our human nature there is a desire to try to prove to ourselves that we are something more than just people. Everyone wants to prove to themselves that "all these are ordinary people, but I am a real smart and dedicated person. I have a quality of personality and knowledge that others do not have and this is the reason for my success."

But in fact, such a guy was just lucky. And he makes a mistake without realizing it.
Or rather, not wanting to realize it.

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In the end, yes, gambling will always be an activity that can never be predicted,

Of course, if the casino results can be guessed or predicted then the bookies will lose a lot and the gamblers will profit a lot. Grin

Why then would it be called gambling if games can never be guessed or predicted? The unchallenged truth is that it's ambitious to get the prediction all right. Casino bookies made it that way to put profits on their table and elongate the existence of the business. Yet people win each day through speculations. What else do you think fetch the money for bettors if not predicting gaming activities?

Everything that is called gambling is when the activity cannot be predicted or is not known about what the results will be, I think you have answered your own question, my friend. It will never be called a gambling activity if it turns out that the activity can be predicted.
I quite agree with the analogy said by @zuzie that if gambling could be predicted then of course the casino would go bankrupt, but on the other hand if the activity could be predicted then it would never be legal to be called gambling.
On the other hand, this is also the reason why gambling is always prohibited as a place to make money.

I also agree with you, in gambling if the outcome can be predicted with certainty then we cannot call it gambling. As you said if the correct results were predicted then the casino would have gone bankrupt after some time. Because the games in every casino are arranged in such a way that in the long term that company is profitable. Because they won't give you their own money, they give 1 gambler the jackpot of 10 gamblers' losses, and 20 gamblers' losses they take themselves. This is how a casino operates.

The main attraction of gambling is uncertainty. You have to gamble with uncertainty, and if you are lucky, you can go home with your gambling profit. And if you are unlucky you lose all the money. However, most of the time the probability of loss from gambling is high.

That's why they say the house alway wins, the main purpose of it being a business is for the casino to be making profit and that's why the whole set up no matter how good the gambler is, the casino still wins. The industry is about uncertainty and aslo hope and that's the part of the gamblers and I believe it's that feeling of hope that keeps the gambler active and keeps playing where as the uncertainty set the balance in favor of the casino

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Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

He/she has a great luck that's why he win like this. on the gambling luck is everything. if you don't have luck you will not win even easy win but if you have luck then you can win unpredictable games. This is not unusual. For this gambling should be treated as fun and not leave everything to luck and bet large amounts. My strategy is to make small bets and spend less money gambling longer. It can sometimes lead to big odd wins. Luck plays a big role in gambling but you can't blame luck by placing big single bets and losing big amounts. You have to manage money yourself.

I just started separating things that I can influence (bet size, playing time, money management) and things that I can't influence (luck). So I don't pay any attention to luck, while many players just go crazy when they see that they are lucky or not. Gambling has almost stopped causing me emotions, because I have begun to understand a lot over many years of playing and a lot of experience. In fact, I get pleasure, but not from what I used to, but from forecasting, my calculations and strategies that I have come up with that I am trying to try. Of course, I am not going to say that I will definitely win, but I like to try new things and if I manage to reduce my losses, that will be good, because many do not even think about it.

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In the end, yes, gambling will always be an activity that can never be predicted,

Of course, if the casino results can be guessed or predicted then the bookies will lose a lot and the gamblers will profit a lot. Grin

Why then would it be called gambling if games can never be guessed or predicted? The unchallenged truth is that it's ambitious to get the prediction all right. Casino bookies made it that way to put profits on their table and elongate the existence of the business. Yet people win each day through speculations. What else do you think fetch the money for bettors if not predicting gaming activities?

Everything that is called gambling is when the activity cannot be predicted or is not known about what the results will be, I think you have answered your own question, my friend. It will never be called a gambling activity if it turns out that the activity can be predicted.
I quite agree with the analogy said by @zuzie that if gambling could be predicted then of course the casino would go bankrupt, but on the other hand if the activity could be predicted then it would never be legal to be called gambling.
On the other hand, this is also the reason why gambling is always prohibited as a place to make money.

I also agree with you, in gambling if the outcome can be predicted with certainty then we cannot call it gambling. As you said if the correct results were predicted then the casino would have gone bankrupt after some time. Because the games in every casino are arranged in such a way that in the long term that company is profitable. Because they won't give you their own money, they give 1 gambler the jackpot of 10 gamblers' losses, and 20 gamblers' losses they take themselves. This is how a casino operates.

The main attraction of gambling is uncertainty. You have to gamble with uncertainty, and if you are lucky, you can go home with your gambling profit. And if you are unlucky you lose all the money. However, most of the time the probability of loss from gambling is high.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

He/she has a great luck that's why he win like this. on the gambling luck is everything. if you don't have luck you will not win even easy win but if you have luck then you can win unpredictable games. This is not unusual. For this gambling should be treated as fun and not leave everything to luck and bet large amounts. My strategy is to make small bets and spend less money gambling longer. It can sometimes lead to big odd wins. Luck plays a big role in gambling but you can't blame luck by placing big single bets and losing big amounts. You have to manage money yourself.

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Quote from: Tungbulu on September 11, 2024, 02:23:02 AM

regardless of a gamblers analytical skills, it's impossible to always win while solely relying on them.

it is impossible, but the problem is when you win with extraordinary prediction accuracy with your friends. even if it is a few bets. it makes you be called a prediction expert in that environment.
the feeling given by such an environment will make you continue to make your predictions and bet, even though in the end your predictions are no longer as accurate as before. when you visit a betting place, you will always be asked about predictions, and things like that happen.

winning big with very accurate predictions is indeed fun and extraordinary. but don't put yourself in an environment that can make you feel annoying. enjoy your own wins and losses.

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Sometimes I wounder how people think they are so smart In prediction to be considered as reservoir of unpredictable games. As far as I know there is nothing like being smart in the world of gambling. Though it could be considered as skill but not being smart. When we talk about being smart in gambling, it describes such person as being perfect never to make any mistake. Gambling is all about luck and nothing more. No man is an island of knowledge when it comes to Gambling. According to the op narration after the wining of the 6odd as predicted by his friend, he was not able to win anything for weeks. This shows that gambling is pure luck.

In gambling you can never be too smart but can only be often lucky and yes it does happens you can be so lucky you get to enjoy a long stretch of winning and some may now mistaken it for skill but the fact remains they're just been lucky and they realize this only when they finally loose a game, if they still continue winning, they get delusional and are made to believe they are so skilful to the point they begin to see their selves as reservoir of predictions.

Well there are games that actually requires more of the gamblers skill than luck, just like the poker games or blackjack and other card games, in these kinda games, a gamblers success is mostly dependent on their skills, experience and ability to predict or try to predict one's opponent's next move and then we can talk about luck. In such games a gambler can actually boast of being so good at the game.

But when we talk about other games like slot games, roulette and sports betting, these games are unable to be predicted accurately, hence a gambler needs as much luck as he can get to win as it plays a very vital role towards ensuring how successful a gambler can be in these games, regardless of a gamblers analytical skills, it's impossible to always win while solely relying on them.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

Lucky him, that was what created the first impression that he was a reservoir. If at the first time of the bet, he his game had cut, I guess he would have given up at that time on his so called predictions. We shouldn't forget the fact that making good predictions in some matches depends on how lucky is on our side, combined with how experienced and how well we know our players. You might feel like a king when you make some good predictions and even go out blaring to others about your skills but then hide it when you make losses..

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Gambling is a warehouse of games that cannot be predicted precisely, even with games that use strategy or skills, it does not guarantee that players can predict the results will end in victory. Because of all these gambling games behind it there are bookies who have arranged everything in such a way and of course they have arranged their system to be able to generate profits from the many people who gamble, it is not strange that players find it more difficult to win than bookies. In addition, victory is something that I think is a problem for most gamblers. because many of them think that they can win easily but it only makes them addicted to the difficulty of stopping gambling and makes them experience many bad effects.
And this is the fault of each individual, not the fault of the casino.

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In the end, yes, gambling will always be an activity that can never be predicted, and that is why we are always advised not to make it a place to earn, and that is also the reason why we are always advised to only bet the amount that we can afford to lose, and another thing I will also say that other types of gambling such as sports betting still luck is an important factor.

Of course, if the casino results can be guessed or predicted then the bookies will lose a lot and the gamblers will profit a lot. Grin

And this should really be understood by all gamblers so as not to put too much hope in getting profit here because the fact in the field victory is much smaller and difficult to get by gamblers while defeat and loss are often obtained by gamblers.
Yes, you are right, even sports betting, apart from relying on the skills of the soccer players, gamblers also rely on luck to win in sports betting.

It is true that if casino games can be easily guessed, the casino will experience many defeats and they will not be able to make any profit from the bets that gamblers bet.
Every gambler must be able to control their gambling activities so as not to risk too much of their funds and hope to be able to generate big wins from every bet they play, but they must be able to control themselves and the funds they will use to gamble so as not to spend too much of their money on gambling.
You are right, every bet on gambling always requires greater luck in order to win the bets we play, because without luck it is very unlikely to be able to win at gambling.

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