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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

I once had this guy coming around to bug me with weekend fixtures for coupon draws... Not until someone volunteered to stake heavily on them odds, just to prove to him that the authenticity of his games weren't guaranteed. Since he wasn't in a position to wager the games himself, the agreement was that if anyone wagers and it doesn't cut, he'll have to pay for the loss.. "I was surprised when he readily accepted". His confidence threw me off, but something kept telling me that he's got too much ballsiness for it to not.

Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

One thing I am learning about life currently is that we don't have to be over reacting and judging people. There are some things that we need er expected to happen which always been the reality. Gambling need to be as fun but there are people that are always too curious to make money for themselves when they can always take the risk and watch what will happen next. There are people that have been making huge profits from bets like this, others could as waste of money which can be of garet help to us as gambler. We need to make money from gambling and that should not make us to serious about gambling which should be more of relaxation.

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Due to how experienced some people have become in gambling and the number of winnings they frequently get from their predictions, they can develop pride and see themselves as accurate prediction machines. They also fail to realize what gambling is all about; they underestimate the fact that gambling is basically about being lucky and not an assurance of winning the predicated games at all times. I have so many people in my place who pose themselves as prediction machines, and some people are just trusting in them despite their losses.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

Some people might feel that they are special. I have heard gamblers say that predictions from certain people or groups are sure bets. They fail to understand that most gambling wins are not based on expertise but on luck. But this is not the case for experienced gamblers who have known the rudiments of gambling.

Quote from: dansus021 on July 11, 2024, 02:20:44 AM

The reason behind it maybe because he just lucky at first and second and third games he dont get lucky very much.

I mean one of my friends got addiction in slot games because first he saw other people win a lot from the slot game and when he tried after registration he also won, the level of confidence is leveling up until he loss the game. But somehow he still want to make deposits by some gut feeling

Winning your first games can lead to gambling addiction. Most of these new gamblers will think that it is easy to win games since they had some easy wins at the beginning of their gambling experience. However, some of them usually change this mindset as they gain more experience.

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I would say that actually it was nothing more than just luck, or what I mean is that when he bet at the beginning of the deal at the same time luck really came at the right time which probably made the people who were there surprised and maybe assumed that he was the one different, in the sense that people may have an advantage in themselves because their predictions are really accurate.

On the other hand, I understand that maybe there is something else that could be the cause, maybe luck comes because he really feels optimistic that he will win at the end of the session, but in my opinion, self-confidence will not always produce something that is as expected, in There is little sense in luck coming just because someone feels very confident.

The proof is that in the next few sessions he experienced defeat as you explained OP, and I am sure that in the process of executing it he certainly did the same thing as in the initial bet when he won, and what this means is that his first win was nothing more than just luck coming at the right time .

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

Winning in the initial stage of your gambling career can be a very dangerous thing because it is what makes you become an actual and addicted gambler. When a person wins their first bet if it's sports betting or wins some money if it's a gambling game, they start believing that they can make money from gambling, and this belief makes them overconfident which eventually makes them lose a lot of money because they keep making bets again and again with the hope that they are going to win.

It is much better if a gambler loses at first when they start gambling so that they can understand that gambling is full of risks and you can lose your money in it and that one needs to be careful when they are making bets so that they don't lose excessive amounts of money out of greed.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 12, 2024, 12:14:45 AM

Quote from: summonerrk on July 11, 2024, 06:03:41 AM

Yes, such people should stop after several defeats in a row, but doing so is much harder than it seems. After all, we all know mathematics, and if a gambler has an unlucky option several times, then the chance that he will soon get a lucky one increases with each new defeat. And the hope for such a lucky chance is what drives the gambler.

Losing money consecutively in gambling is the sign for us to stops from playing gambling and not trying for more. That can leads us to gets more losses although we still have a chance to wins but the chance will not too big compare to our losses. We lose much money before so we must realizes that we must stops immediately before we runs all of the money.

No needs to regret when we lose especially if we use limitation because that limits is the money we can afford to lose. But the fact, people doesn't realizes about that and they still deposit more money because they hopes they can wins the games and recover their lost money in gambling. With the hopes to wins in the next rounds makes gamblers still playing gambling because they believe that they will wins in the next rounds. If they realizes they will not risks more money if they already lose some money and will quit gambling.

I am sure that there is a certain level of deposit, after the loss of which the gambler begins to play casino games as if he no longer cares about his money.
It's probably something like 60 percent. If a gambler has lost this part, then he experiences moral anxiety and anger, and it’s probably better to leave at this point. But the desire to “restore the deposit” will only lead to a complete and irrevocable loss of all the money on the balance sheet.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

I once had this guy coming around to bug me with weekend fixtures for coupon draws... Not until someone volunteered to stake heavily on them odds, just to prove to him that the authenticity of his games weren't guaranteed. Since he wasn't in a position to wager the games himself, the agreement was that if anyone wagers and it doesn't cut, he'll have to pay for the loss.. "I was surprised when he readily accepted". His confidence threw me off, but something kept telling me that he's got too much ballsiness for it to not.

Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

I believe both party's enthusiasm would have died off should the first draws predictions he made hadn't given a win. It was that lucky feat that bolstered his confidence you believe himself in charge of correct predictions. Good a thing the first game played right, else I doubt he would have been able to repay the amount the other guy staked on the game since he couldn't make the bet himself and was looking for someone capable.

A reservoir of unpredictable games? No one has that reserve right actually. We are gambling on luck which makes it important that we stake with money we can afford to forego not minding the confidence we have on the predictions. Luck in gambling has never been constant.

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This is exactly the case that I described in the previous post. Sometimes people have some catastrophic confidence, and it is this that helps them win. Many people say you have to believe in winning; everyone knows about this, but not everyone knows how to do it correctly. We cannot control luck, but luck sometimes does inexplicable things to us. And yes, a period of success very often gives way to a streak of failures at a time when the next lucky ones catch fortune by the tail.

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Quote from: summonerrk on July 11, 2024, 06:03:41 AM

Yes, such people should stop after several defeats in a row, but doing so is much harder than it seems. After all, we all know mathematics, and if a gambler has an unlucky option several times, then the chance that he will soon get a lucky one increases with each new defeat. And the hope for such a lucky chance is what drives the gambler.

Losing money consecutively in gambling is the sign for us to stops from playing gambling and not trying for more. That can leads us to gets more losses although we still have a chance to wins but the chance will not too big compare to our losses. We lose much money before so we must realizes that we must stops immediately before we runs all of the money.

No needs to regret when we lose especially if we use limitation because that limits is the money we can afford to lose. But the fact, people doesn't realizes about that and they still deposit more money because they hopes they can wins the games and recover their lost money in gambling. With the hopes to wins in the next rounds makes gamblers still playing gambling because they believe that they will wins in the next rounds. If they realizes they will not risks more money if they already lose some money and will quit gambling.

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Quote from: Coyster on July 10, 2024, 05:57:02 PM

As a gambler, it is so important to understand that luck plays a huge part in you winning, but some people believe they have found the winning pattern/strategy, just because they were lucky to win a game. If it was possible for one to get a winning pattern, they'd definitely run the bookmakers to the ground; so first thing is to be humble enough to accept that you have to be lucky to win and not that you can "magically" pick correct games.

That's the one bitter pill they've refused to swallow for years now... I don't even think that's gonna end anyway - there's no fuckin' pattern to maneuver; I mean, there's definitely a pattern but the book markers have done it in a way that you can't track down previous historical records, compare, substitute for, just to create some sort of loophole.

Quote from: KTChampions on July 10, 2024, 06:12:11 PM

I really didn’t understand the gist of this story. I can only say that even a broken clock shows the correct time twice a day. That guy was apparently very unlucky - in the sense that he once believed in his ability to predict winnings and even had it. ray when it was "confirmed". Now it will be very difficult for him to be convinced of the opposite and he may lose money all his life.
My life experience suggests that the most unlucky gamblers are those who begin their “career” as a gambler with winnings.

"I don't really get what you didn't understand from the storyline but, this is one of the comments that threw me off" - WTF do you mean unlucky gamblers are likely the ones who begin their carrier with winnings?.. haven't you heard of situations where people get discouraged due to the fact that they've lost their whole goddam life savings and properties for an addiction that doesn't yield?

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Quote from: danherbias07 on July 11, 2024, 07:44:17 AM

I don't like it when I win in a streak, next to it will be hell. Cheesy

So he made the right pick on the early stage and it changed on the next ones. I thought the story would end with "He is still making the right predictions." but he ain't anymore. So the truth is still there that there is no way we can predict the games unless they are fixed matches.
I think he saw himself as a Nostradamus of whatever sport he is predicting but there's really no 100 percent and I won't say he got lucky because I think he is doing his homework but maybe he got lazy on the next matches.

For someone with the type of mindset as the Op highlighted, if they are still making correct predictions up to date, then we should have seen them give themselves a custom title, either "King of Gambling" or "Gambling Lord himself."

The pride and confidence would have been on another level, where people could even be making a booking just to have a share of his predicted games.

At least by now, he should be able to learn that it's not all in his power to decide which game can win and which one will lose. To some point, our prediction skills are rendered useless due to the type of result we see some games end with.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

I think it's because they are compulsive gamblers and anxious individuals, while in some cases they are pretty superstitious too, what boosts their self-confidence even more, as they attribute their predictions to a major external and spiritual force which can potentially bring them accurate informations about the future. Therefore, we can also consider they are delusional! Once in a while these people make correct predictions, but it's still not enough to cover the history of losses they carry.

And the few who manage to win some nice amounts of money, end not managing these funds properly, because their focus is on predicting more games' results and placing more bets, so they inevitably end losing everything they achieved so far. These gamblers seem to be more interested in predicting games than on the money they make from gambling activity itself...

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

That is because they think that they'd win again. The confidence is there and that's what they're trying to sell but little did they know, they're not going to be in the same state forever. So, if it's with all of these predictions and bets and you're gonna rely on someone else, you may want to rethink about it because that's not going to work just as what you're thinking of. You have to make your own predictions and bet it as if you're ready to lose it. I'm not telling that you're there to gamble and accept the losses but pretty much close to it so that your heart and mind is ready to whichever result that you're about to have. That's one way to avoid having heavy feelings when your bets are losing.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

I once had this guy coming around to bug me with weekend fixtures for coupon draws... Not until someone volunteered to stake heavily on them odds, just to prove to him that the authenticity of his games weren't guaranteed. Since he wasn't in a position to wager the games himself, the agreement was that if anyone wagers and it doesn't cut, he'll have to pay for the loss.. "I was surprised when he readily accepted". His confidence threw me off, but something kept telling me that he's got too much ballsiness for it to not.

Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

It arises because his confidence is very high, as if he feels that he has a power outside his mind and orders himself to do the same repetition, even though it is just sheer luck.

I often find people like, after getting a big win once, he feels that he has the direction to get again and again, but unfortunately enough that he is just lucky and not an ability to predict the future, like that person who does not have the sanity of something that cannot be controlled by himself, sometimes sad to see people like that because he will continue to try continuously but not get the victory like before.

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The simple truth is what works today might not work tomorrow because in gambling, I might say that winning is unpredictable but it's way beyond that, if it's not your luck you can't win no matter how hard you manage to get the odds. Well when he won the previous game it was by luck and it's not all the time that a gambler will win from such acts. If an expert gambler can lose most of the times, it simply means that both those that don't spend time to predict games can also lose.

Quote from: Ruttoshi on July 11, 2024, 02:09:54 PM

One with gamblers is that the moment they have a huge win they think that it was by their smartness and that will give them false confidence which will make them gamble recklessly and run at big loss. They forget that it was luck that brought the win to them.

You are correct.
As long as a gambler can not make half of 100 predictions and all of them are successful it means no one is outsmart gamble and it's odds, so anyone who's thinking that he's smart because he won huge money is making a big mistake. A good gambler who knows what gamble is can not see decide on that.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on July 10, 2024, 06:19:34 PM

Let us put it this way, their confidence is boosted because of their winnings. But they need to acknowledge the fact that even if you know the sports very well and you feel, you have found the pattern or mechanics to win, there are still blind spots that you can't account for. They may have won a game by deploying his strategy, but it doesn't mean, it will work the next time around.

Close to it, the thing is that there is no winning pattern, some people even have superstitious beliefs, and they do certain things (sometimes funny) before gambling, i do not have a problem with that, if the player knows they can lose or win, and there is no single outcome. Sometimes the problem stems from the fact that some people take gambling as their main or only source of income, you find them doing funny things or coming up with patterns, in the hope that it aids them in winning.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

I once had this guy coming around to bug me with weekend fixtures for coupon draws... Not until someone volunteered to stake heavily on them odds, just to prove to him that the authenticity of his games weren't guaranteed. Since he wasn't in a position to wager the games himself, the agreement was that if anyone wagers and it doesn't cut, he'll have to pay for the loss.. "I was surprised when he readily accepted". His confidence threw me off, but something kept telling me that he's got too much ballsiness for it to not.

Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

Many of these predictions and wagers are a toss up: to be sure, the truth is that they are based on sheer luck, especially in gambling where random numbers or draws take center stage. If one hits the jackpot, it could very well be their only stroke of good fortune. More often than not they will likely turn a blind eye to or disregard their far more frequent blunders or failures, those which do not bring them riches.

Moreover, a lot of individuals could be caught in what is known as the "confirmation bias" phenomenon: they only recollect and showcase their successes while sidelining any other failures or losses. This leads them to think that they have an infallible method or strategy, even when their outcomes may actually be haphazardly produced.

The player may seem to possess an unpredictable gaming arsenal; however, in most cases, their luck is simply a matter of chance. It's not uncommon for them never to win again after a big victory because luck does not always favor them.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

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Well that's just how gambling works. It's unexplainable when you suddenly hit and win so much all of a sudden but it can be pretty obvious that, well, it was just pure luck after a few more games. Otherwise it would've been either fixed or just the draw being glitched out or something lol. And after that, they'd start thinking they were some sort of Buddha of casinos and that whatever he goes for would suddenly be a hit. An addicts mindset imo.

Kind of understandable though lol. I've felt the same and fallen to the same trap a couple of times before after all. Something inevitable for gamblers I'd say?

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Quote from: Fortify on July 11, 2024, 02:32:04 PM

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It's the very basis of why people get drawn into gambling and why gambling companies make so much money every year. People don't get hooked on gambling because they lost money, they get hooked because at certain points in time they won big. The human mind is incredibly complex but one thing it is always trying to do is heal itself, when you have losses it is a painful experience and it is incredibly easy for the mind to try to disregard those memories in order to protect itself from hurting. That can distort your view when gambling, because the wins create euphoric highs - adrenaline starts pumping, happy endorphins get released and you are full of joy - it creates an incredibly positive and powerful memory which can mask your losses.

And not only because of a huge win, but because of wining several times in a row, like said before in this thread, can lead to some sort of magical thinking about the ability to predict future results.

But it is simple statistics: the chance to win 6 times in a row in an ideal game with two possible outputs of the same probability is around 1,6%; which means that out of 200 players, 3 will achieve it. Now, think about all the players in the industry. With just a few of them "influencing" others in social media, it may seem that the games are fixed, or that the influencer knows something hidden to the common mortals, but the unavoidable result is that luck won't last forever (but maybe long enough to monetize it selling advice to "believers").

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

I once had this guy coming around to bug me with weekend fixtures for coupon draws... Not until someone volunteered to stake heavily on them odds, just to prove to him that the authenticity of his games weren't guaranteed. Since he wasn't in a position to wager the games himself, the agreement was that if anyone wagers and it doesn't cut, he'll have to pay for the loss.. "I was surprised when he readily accepted". His confidence threw me off, but something kept telling me that he's got too much ballsiness for it to not.

Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

It's the very basis of why people get drawn into gambling and why gambling companies make so much money every year. People don't get hooked on gambling because they lost money, they get hooked because at certain points in time they won big. The human mind is incredibly complex but one thing it is always trying to do is heal itself, when you have losses it is a painful experience and it is incredibly easy for the mind to try to disregard those memories in order to protect itself from hurting. That can distort your view when gambling, because the wins create euphoric highs - adrenaline starts pumping, happy endorphins get released and you are full of joy - it creates an incredibly positive and powerful memory which can mask your losses.

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