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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

I once had this guy coming around to bug me with weekend fixtures for coupon draws... Not until someone volunteered to stake heavily on them odds, just to prove to him that the authenticity of his games weren't guaranteed. Since he wasn't in a position to wager the games himself, the agreement was that if anyone wagers and it doesn't cut, he'll have to pay for the loss.. "I was surprised when he readily accepted". His confidence threw me off, but something kept telling me that he's got too much ballsiness for it to not.

Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

One with gamblers is that the moment they have a huge win they think that it was by their smartness and that will give them false confidence which will make them gamble recklessly and run at big loss. They forget that it was luck that brought the win to them.

I think these is why your friend was claiming to be a gambling genius and he was proven wrong by his continuous losses. Gambling is more of luck and that is why if we win huge we must appreciate our luck and use the money wisely instead of being greedy and want to win more.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

I once had this guy coming around to bug me with weekend fixtures for coupon draws... Not until someone volunteered to stake heavily on them odds, just to prove to him that the authenticity of his games weren't guaranteed. Since he wasn't in a position to wager the games himself, the agreement was that if anyone wagers and it doesn't cut, he'll have to pay for the loss.. "I was surprised when he readily accepted". His confidence threw me off, but something kept telling me that he's got too much ballsiness for it to not.

I'm 120% sure this guy wouldn't make up any losses. Don't believe me? Then repeat what you did with him several times until his predictions turn out to be wrong.

Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

It is easy to give ~~advice~~ predictions to others, but difficult to give to yourself.

If this guy believes that his predictions will certainly turn out to be accurate, then why doesn't he take risks and make bets himself? Then he would simply get rich.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

I don't know which kind of game he chose to take such risk but it got him success and that's it, people will see him as a prophet all the time so that explains why people just go with his prediction even though it was just a one-time thing.

But it's against my principle, no one can predict the future so I am not going to risk my hard-earned money on someone's words but if people do then they need to accept whatever the outcomes will be too.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

I once had this guy coming around to bug me with weekend fixtures for coupon draws... Not until someone volunteered to stake heavily on them odds, just to prove to him that the authenticity of his games weren't guaranteed. Since he wasn't in a position to wager the games himself, the agreement was that if anyone wagers and it doesn't cut, he'll have to pay for the loss.. "I was surprised when he readily accepted". His confidence threw me off, but something kept telling me that he's got too much ballsiness for it to not.

Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

It could have happened with anyone. Once we win a bet we become more confident naturally and place higher bets.
But as an active gambler we must know that lucky plays a crucial role in gambling and not every day is a good one.
We should be cognizant of the fact and limit ourself from going out of our way.

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Seems that guy found by the luck but again it is not skeptical that is someone lurking around giving a free odds of chance to win, imagine he's just willing to make a risk to pay if the player will not win the game and seems all of the favor to get convince you is to make a sample player win a large amount of money with the help of him well the intention is not quite clear to me so personally I will not fall with the possible just a bait to get your attention.

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Quote from: Samlucky O on July 11, 2024, 07:38:39 AM

Because as we all know gambling is a game of luck, and when a person win it's either the person chose the wright games at that spot but doesn't mean he is a genius.

The funny thing is that not even geniuses can play and win every game of chance there is. I have never seen anyone come up with a fool-proof strategy of winning in gambling especially games of pure chance and luck.

Of course games of cards and such can be studied to make good strategies but if we are to only look at games that are totally random, no one can actually beat those even if you are a descent of Einstein himself.

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I don't like it when I win in a streak, next to it will be hell. Cheesy

So he made the right pick on the early stage and it changed on the next ones. I thought the story would end with "He is still making the right predictions." but he ain't anymore. So the truth is still there that there is no way we can predict the games unless they are fixed matches.
I think he saw himself as a Nostradamus of whatever sport he is predicting but there's really no 100 percent and I won't say he got lucky because I think he is doing his homework but maybe he got lazy on the next matches.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

It is unwise for someone to see himself as a reservoir of unpredictable games. Because as we all know gambling is a game of luck, and when a person win it's either the person chose the wright games at that spot but doesn't mean he is a genius. Some people even go as far as taken money from people in the name of having a well predicted sure game, and after the game disappoint his clients he became angry and may not be trusted by those that was decieved. This act has become a popular attitude among youths of this days because lack job. Sometimes people are the cause of this thing, whenever somebody win, people cluster him and begin asking him the secret behind the win. Some will even offer to pay when you don't ask them and such person may be tempted to accept the offer and gives them what he also played.

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Confidence? At least some games will be wins if you keep placing bets on a game. Maybe a chunk of them came together. This is what I felt happened, the OP was a difficult for me to get a summary of.

A small number of clustered wins--> false confidence--> losing all bets after that.

I think this has been fairly common among some gamblers, specially in their starting days. Never be haughty about your wins. Accept losses or wins and be humble and move on.

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Most persons who have been able to get some huge lucky wins and then got lucky again to replicate such results a few times begin to forget they are gambling and think they are now an icon of the game and can probably command events to turn in their favour.

They fail to understand that the word gambling itself means trial and error, which means most of the times you may have to depend on luck and if you get lucky it doesn't .wan you are better at it then the other who lost, you were only Lucky at that point in time and you could get unlucky thereafter.

This feeling has been what has made some people buy into the idea of thinking that they are reservoirs of unpredicted games, they feel too lucky and believe they have got a working pattern that will always push the odds in their favour until they suffer another huge loss.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 11, 2024, 05:47:31 AM

We only knows that's because of his luck gives him the wins. Not many people can wins consecutive like him and he is really a lucky guy. That can happens in the casino but we never knows who are they so that guy have his luck that helps him to wins.

If they wins in the first time, they can feels that they still have luck and can wins more and more money. Some people will decides to continue playing gambling by placing their bet and this time, they will place a bigger bet. They can wins but not many of them can wins because many people will lose if they can't realizes that they can't wins many times in gambling. They must realizes that they should stops after some wins so they can save the wins money and not trying to chase the wins. Maybe that's a coincidence for them to wins for some rounds but they can't always wins in the next rounds.

Yes, such people should stop after several defeats in a row, but doing so is much harder than it seems. After all, we all know mathematics, and if a gambler has an unlucky option several times, then the chance that he will soon get a lucky one increases with each new defeat. And the hope for such a lucky chance is what drives the gambler.

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We only knows that's because of his luck gives him the wins. Not many people can wins consecutive like him and he is really a lucky guy. That can happens in the casino but we never knows who are they so that guy have his luck that helps him to wins.

If they wins in the first time, they can feels that they still have luck and can wins more and more money. Some people will decides to continue playing gambling by placing their bet and this time, they will place a bigger bet. They can wins but not many of them can wins because many people will lose if they can't realizes that they can't wins many times in gambling. They must realizes that they should stops after some wins so they can save the wins money and not trying to chase the wins. Maybe that's a coincidence for them to wins for some rounds but they can't always wins in the next rounds.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

I once had this guy coming around to bug me with weekend fixtures for coupon draws... Not until someone volunteered to stake heavily on them odds, just to prove to him that the authenticity of his games weren't guaranteed. Since he wasn't in a position to wager the games himself, the agreement was that if anyone wagers and it doesn't cut, he'll have to pay for the loss.. "I was surprised when he readily accepted". His confidence threw me off, but something kept telling me that he's got too much ballsiness for it to not.

Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

I believe you wanted to write "it does cut" where I boldened above, you might want to correct it.

You see, winning always gives people convenience but some people are not just wise about it. The outcome of now doesn't give any guarantee about the outcome of later, no one has ever beaten gambling in the long run without some losses, it's only overconfidence that can make people have that sp much gutsy approach to gambling.

I'm happy that the story did not end in his winning but some subsequent losses as well to prove my point. I hope he pays for the cut ones which he agreed to, this should make him calm his nerves too. For instance, a 75% win in sports betting is not bad at all, and as little as a 25% shortage of 100% is, it is enough for us to stop overconfidence no matter how good we think we are.

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There is an adage that goes that "Even a spoilt clock is correct at least once a day. There is a big difference between luck and gaining mastery and it was evident that he wasn't able to win again after the initial successful prediction.

I've seen people who got lucky at predicting games and felt they were genius in their prediction and could brag about their winning potential while only referencing the initial win that gave them such a boast. Gambling will always remain a game of luck and a little of analysis and you can't be 💯 certain of your predictions. Maybe at some point, you might observe some trends that could give you an idea of what plays out in most games and you can build a gambling pattern using such trends but knowing that for most games especially sports that are played by humans whose tendencies can't be predicted outrightly, you've got to know that your guesses can't always be right.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

I once had this guy coming around to bug me with weekend fixtures for coupon draws... Not until someone volunteered to stake heavily on them odds, just to prove to him that the authenticity of his games weren't guaranteed. Since he wasn't in a position to wager the games himself, the agreement was that if anyone wagers and it doesn't cut, he'll have to pay for the loss.. "I was surprised when he readily accepted". His confidence threw me off, but something kept telling me that he's got too much ballsiness for it to not.

Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

Well that is called raise in confidence and it is a normal thing that happens to someone that predicts 6 draws,it happens once in a very long while for only few persons,for most gamblers it never happens so the amount of boosted confidence is huge for such persons.As you said then he kept losing because he could not predict anymore winning tickets,that lows the confidence and I am afraid this person if not already will end in a very bad situation.It is only luck that is the final factor in determining if someone wins or loses.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

I once had this guy coming around to bug me with weekend fixtures for coupon draws... Not until someone volunteered to stake heavily on them odds, just to prove to him that the authenticity of his games weren't guaranteed. Since he wasn't in a position to wager the games himself, the agreement was that if anyone wagers and it doesn't cut, he'll have to pay for the loss.. "I was surprised when he readily accepted". His confidence threw me off, but something kept telling me that he's got too much ballsiness for it to not.

Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

Perhaps this gives them confidence. If a person has won more than just a simple result or several results, then he begins to think that he knows more than others. I have a second option, I think that people with a high level of intelligence are more inclined to doubt than people with a low level. I'm not talking about anyone in particular and I'm not offending anyone, but often people who are less competent in their field are more confident than those who have better skills. Also in gambling. Maybe this person is just confident in himself, but his confidence is not based on anything.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!

I have seen someone who predicted 9 draws and 8 draws came through leaving one as narrow win of 1:0 scored at the last 5 minutes to FT. So, basically my point is that luck plays role in gambling and if a gambler is able to win that huge amount, other gamblers see him as a pillar that can be relied upon in prediction.
So if such person doesn't win for a long time, the initial huge win could also keep making people depend on him. It is even normal when a gambler is a regular winner of his bet, many wait for such people's prediction for approval of their own analysis.

Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

Sometimes such people who win often don't even pride themselves over it but it is those who now rely on them see such people as demigod and they run after them for prediction. But somehow it is normal with humans to be relying on what they are termed better than others and that elevates their ego.

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The reason behind it maybe because he just lucky at first and second and third games he dont get lucky very much.

I mean one of my friends got addiction in slot games because first he saw other people win a lot from the slot game and when he tried after registration he also won, the level of confidence is leveling up until he loss the game. But somehow he still want to make deposits by some gut feeling

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

That's a an easy question.

The answer is over-confidence. I see many of them online and specifically on Twitter since that is the place I get to spend the bulk of my time. There's one who has been consistent over time. He however has this on this profile which seems like a caveat, "Don’t play games you don’t understand". Also, with the way the society is, any little thing this can make the person be an "influencer" because of how people will start to look at them and of course they will want to keep up with the appearance and cash in on it until it fades away.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

I once had this guy coming around to bug me with weekend fixtures for coupon draws... Not until someone volunteered to stake heavily on them odds, just to prove to him that the authenticity of his games weren't guaranteed. Since he wasn't in a position to wager the games himself, the agreement was that if anyone wagers and it doesn't cut, he'll have to pay for the loss.. "I was surprised when he readily accepted". His confidence threw me off, but something kept telling me that he's got too much ballsiness for it to not.

Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

If I understand you correctly, then I can confirm that such a problem exists. I had a similar case, once I won an express bet in which I used a lot of predictions. And I thought that I could predict matches well, but then I began to lose one bet after another. And then I thought - maybe I should place bets that are the opposite of my predictions?
I think every gambler has had this situation. But I’ll say right away that this is a dead-end solution. You need to believe in yourself and your analysis. And reverse decisions on bets are a road to nowhere.

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