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Quote from: zuzie on September 10, 2024, 10:01:49 AM

Of course, if the casino results can be guessed or predicted then the bookies will lose a lot and the gamblers will profit a lot. Grin

And this should really be understood by all gamblers so as not to put too much hope in getting profit here because the fact in the field victory is much smaller and difficult to get by gamblers while defeat and loss are often obtained by gamblers.
Yes, you are right, even sports betting, apart from relying on the skills of the soccer players, gamblers also rely on luck to win in sports betting.

And maybe if the player can win often and always right with his predictions then I think it's not gambling, maybe more on income while gambling is a game based on luck that can't be predicted to win. Indeed, the chances of winning that the gambler has tend to be smaller than the chances of winning that the bookie has, so players should not expect more in gambling because the difficulty of getting a win in gambling is probably like looking for a needle in a haystack. But there is indeed gambling that must use the skills we have, it can increase victory even though it ultimately ends with luck that will determine the final result, because indeed with games that also involve skills still involve luck. So in my opinion maybe all games that are said to be gambling are games that cannot be predicted with wins that can be obtained easily.

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Quote from: Samlucky O on September 10, 2024, 11:38:51 AM

Sometimes I wounder how people think they are so smart In prediction to be considered as reservoir of unpredictable games. As far as I know there is nothing like being smart in the world of gambling. Though it could be considered as skill but not being smart. When we talk about being smart in gambling, it describes such person as being perfect never to make any mistake. Gambling is all about luck and nothing more. No man is an island of knowledge when it comes to Gambling. According to the op narration after the wining of the 6odd as predicted by his friend, he was not able to win anything for weeks. This shows that gambling is pure luck.

In gambling you can never be too smart but can only be often lucky and yes it does happens you can be so lucky you get to enjoy a long stretch of winning and some may now mistaken it for skill but the fact remains they're just been lucky and they realize this only when they finally loose a game, if they still continue winning, they get delusional and are made to believe they are so skilful to the point they begin to see their selves as reservoir of predictions.

My advice has always been whenever you have got someone enjoying such stretch of winning, you can simply key in mad then make sure that you get the most out of it and not to become so dependent because you too have been made to believe that the person is just too skillful.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

I once had this guy coming around to bug me with weekend fixtures for coupon draws... Not until someone volunteered to stake heavily on them odds, just to prove to him that the authenticity of his games weren't guaranteed. Since he wasn't in a position to wager the games himself, the agreement was that if anyone wagers and it doesn't cut, he'll have to pay for the loss.. "I was surprised when he readily accepted". His confidence threw me off, but something kept telling me that he's got too much ballsiness for it to not.

Most of those forks knows exactly what they are doing and most times when they want to go into agreement with you on picking the games, they make sure that the percentage that is collected on your winnings are much higher than what they pay back if the bet becomes a losing one, so for that they are always at advantage regardless and since their know how the thing work's they build some level of confidence in their game's and boosting about it becomes one of the priority in other to convince their potential clients.

Don't also forget that, this is his business and so he have long term experience in those predictions and how it outcome always result to so you shouldn't be surprise seeing him making such confidential statements.

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Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

Take the first winning as luck, and every other winning as experience, because that is what it is, there is no way that such a predictions will ever give you steady winning, because there is nothing like a sure bet anywhere and all bets are subject to luck and loses, that is why you shouldn't get carried away when there is any first winning from such predictions.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

I once had this guy coming around to bug me with weekend fixtures for coupon draws... Not until someone volunteered to stake heavily on them odds, just to prove to him that the authenticity of his games weren't guaranteed. Since he wasn't in a position to wager the games himself, the agreement was that if anyone wagers and it doesn't cut, he'll have to pay for the loss.. "I was surprised when he readily accepted". His confidence threw me off, but something kept telling me that he's got too much ballsiness for it to not.

Long story cut short, it was a win! yes, it became a surprise and infact, a mystery to everyone that his prediction just delivered as though he arranged with the fixed draws -- 6 draws came through and since then, he kept making predictions on that premise, but the opposite was the case for everytime he wrote down random numbers. Infact, he has never won since then!
Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Not that I believe your story, but let's say hypothetically he pulls this same arrangement with several different strangers and offers each the opposite outcome "if this game wins then you should go with my future predictions". He's bound to win with at least one set of potential customers (or "marks") and then he might even get lucky predicting the game correctly for them next time by splitting the outcomes too. He has multiple different potential avenues for earning income, he might have a relationship with a certain bookmaker where he gets a commission for directing customers or he might take a commission directly from other people risking their own money while he loses nothing. There's many angles but basically you shouldn't trust anyone that is trying to sell you predictions, it makes no logical sense.

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Quote from: Dailyscript on September 10, 2024, 02:05:25 PM

Think again a person can be smart enough to make inclined decisions in gambling but no one should be certain of how smart they can be to be assured that their predictions will make them a reservoir on unpredictable games. It could be that they may have been lucky for some time after applying their smart move on games. Yet, we shouldn't be blinded with the fact that it cannot be like that all the time.

Yeah, you sure. No man can say he knows it all when it comes to gambling. But these days some casinos do have a loophole for gamblers to be able to manipulate the system.

When not even casinos can predict what is going to happen and rely on a heavy use of math and probabilities to be ahead of the players, it is ridiculous to think that a gambler can predict perfectly what it is going to happen all the time, the person described on the OP is simply one that is ignorant about the realities of gambling and that is why they could be so sure about themselves, but eventually the reality demonstrated that they were just a fraud as anyone else that makes those claims.

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Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

As a gambler, it is so important to understand that luck plays a huge part in you winning, but some people believe they have found the winning pattern/strategy, just because they were lucky to win a game. If it was possible for one to get a winning pattern, they'd definitely run the bookmakers to the ground; so first thing is to be humble enough to accept that you have to be lucky to win and not that you can "magically" pick correct games.

Let's just say the guy who took the risk to give that game predictors game a trial as he was lucky to win on the move.
Either the predictor nor the staker could boldly proof it that they knows the secret to winning in gambling because of they do, I'm sure gambling would automatically become a reliable source of income for them but I bet they can't accept it that way because it'll become an end to their bankroll.

Sometimes I wounder how people think they are so smart In prediction to be considered as reservoir of unpredictable games. As far as I know there is nothing like being smart in the world of gambling. Though it could be considered as skill but not being smart. When we talk about being smart in gambling, it describes such person as being perfect never to make any mistake. Gambling is all about luck and nothing more. No man is an island of knowledge when it comes to Gambling. According to the op narration after the wining of the 6odd as predicted by his friend, he was not able to win anything for weeks. This shows that gambling is pure luck.

Think again a person can be smart enough to make inclined decisions in gambling but no one should be certain of how smart they can be to be assured that their predictions will make them a reservoir on unpredictable games. It could be that they may have been lucky for some time after applying their smart move on games. Yet, we shouldn't be blinded with the fact that it cannot be like that all the time.

Yeah, you sure. No man can say he knows it all when it comes to gambling. But these days some casinos do have a loophole for gamblers to be able to manipulate the system.

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In the end, yes, gambling will always be an activity that can never be predicted,

Of course, if the casino results can be guessed or predicted then the bookies will lose a lot and the gamblers will profit a lot. Grin

Why then would it be called gambling if games can never be guessed or predicted? The unchallenged truth is that it's ambitious to get the prediction all right. Casino bookies made it that way to put profits on their table and elongate the existence of the business. Yet people win each day through speculations. What else do you think fetch the money for bettors if not predicting gaming activities?

Everything that is called gambling is when the activity cannot be predicted or is not known about what the results will be, I think you have answered your own question, my friend. It will never be called a gambling activity if it turns out that the activity can be predicted.
I quite agree with the analogy said by @zuzie that if gambling could be predicted then of course the casino would go bankrupt, but on the other hand if the activity could be predicted then it would never be legal to be called gambling.
On the other hand, this is also the reason why gambling is always prohibited as a place to make money.

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Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

As a gambler, it is so important to understand that luck plays a huge part in you winning, but some people believe they have found the winning pattern/strategy, just because they were lucky to win a game. If it was possible for one to get a winning pattern, they'd definitely run the bookmakers to the ground; so first thing is to be humble enough to accept that you have to be lucky to win and not that you can "magically" pick correct games.

Let's just say the guy who took the risk to give that game predictors game a trial as he was lucky to win on the move.
Either the predictor nor the staker could boldly proof it that they knows the secret to winning in gambling because of they do, I'm sure gambling would automatically become a reliable source of income for them but I bet they can't accept it that way because it'll become an end to their bankroll.

Sometimes I wounder how people think they are so smart In prediction to be considered as reservoir of unpredictable games. As far as I know there is nothing like being smart in the world of gambling. Though it could be considered as skill but not being smart. When we talk about being smart in gambling, it describes such person as being perfect never to make any mistake. Gambling is all about luck and nothing more. No man is an island of knowledge when it comes to Gambling. According to the op narration after the wining of the 6odd as predicted by his friend, he was not able to win anything for weeks. This shows that gambling is pure luck.

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Quote from: Orpichukwu on July 10, 2024, 05:47:57 PM

He was lucky that the first game played the way he predicted; if not, he could have still been thinking about how to repay that money. I doubt he even has it considering the fact that you said he was not in a position to wager it himself.

Lucky indeed and then he would had messed himself up from the onset and then he would had been humble with all that brags.

It is also questionable where he would had gotten the money to pay the wager back when he earlier claimed not in good position to stake on the bet.

Quote from: Orpichukwu on July 10, 2024, 05:47:57 PM

Back to the main question, I can't really tell why most people feel that way, but one thing is very certain: their confidence increases immediately when they predict the first game, which is played as predicted, and they now feel like they have something in them that whispers the correct games to them that others don't have.

One thing is certain that nomatter how good they would be in predicting the right games, there will be some days the game would cut them off and then, they would concur that winning in gambling is based on luck and not about being special in the world of gambling.

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Quote from: zuzie on September 10, 2024, 10:01:49 AM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on September 10, 2024, 09:41:56 AM

In the end, yes, gambling will always be an activity that can never be predicted,

Of course, if the casino results can be guessed or predicted then the bookies will lose a lot and the gamblers will profit a lot. Grin

Why then would it be called gambling if games can never be guessed or predicted? The unchallenged truth is that it's ambitious to get the prediction all right. Casino bookies made it that way to put profits on their table and elongate the existence of the business. Yet people win each day through speculations. What else do you think fetch the money for bettors if not predicting gaming activities?

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Can you explain a little further about what you mean by a "reservoir of unpredictable games". Do you mean someone who's always claiming to be able to predict the outcome of certain games or just someone who thinks that they are good at any time of game of chance? Also, your story is a bit hard to follow on what exactly was happening, but do you think there's any chance he could have rigged the first game he played just to get others interested?

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on September 10, 2024, 09:41:56 AM

In the end, yes, gambling will always be an activity that can never be predicted, and that is why we are always advised not to make it a place to earn, and that is also the reason why we are always advised to only bet the amount that we can afford to lose, and another thing I will also say that other types of gambling such as sports betting still luck is an important factor.

Of course, if the casino results can be guessed or predicted then the bookies will lose a lot and the gamblers will profit a lot. Grin

And this should really be understood by all gamblers so as not to put too much hope in getting profit here because the fact in the field victory is much smaller and difficult to get by gamblers while defeat and loss are often obtained by gamblers.
Yes, you are right, even sports betting, apart from relying on the skills of the soccer players, gamblers also rely on luck to win in sports betting.

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When gamblers have huge wins or imaginable luck they tend to feel themselves as one who is ordained by God to be a gambling guru. Immediately the mindset changes thinking they can win other bets along the line. Let me just be frank here. I like the guy's confidence as i have been in that position to have won a bet with so much courage even when i know it is something that 98% of people see the impossibility happening. Yet, i did not think that i would be lucky in other games. The luck I had was a very big one, in as much as i shouldn't expect it to happen always like that doesn't mean I should stop trying because it might still happen again. We are not gurus in gambling, we are not professionals so we should be thankful when we win.

We can not be guru in gambling because gambling victory does not happen because of what we do but it happens randomly. You and I can be lucky and win more than one time back to back but there are people that if they try do it, they will fail. The failure is because they do not have our luck or it is not their time to win. Following our mind can give us luck but we should only use money that is not going to be a problem when we lose it. There is no predictable outcome in gambling, everything happens out of chance. Gambling being talked about is casino games that are based on luck and not sport betting or other games that you can use a strategy and be having a better odds of winning. People that claim to be professional are people that were lucky more than one time to win.

Right, meaning whatever you do and whatever method you use it still won't affect the outcome of the game especially when you play in a casino game type, because as you said which I think some of us already know that luck is what brings victory. This is also the reason for the act of greed that ultimately leads someone to regret, because after all there is no connection between previous results and subsequent results, or what I mean is a method that you use in the current session and managed to get a number of wins does not mean that the method will also be able to give you victory in the next session, I see many people who misunderstand what and how gambling really is.

In the end, yes, gambling will always be an activity that can never be predicted, and that is why we are always advised not to make it a place to earn, and that is also the reason why we are always advised to only bet the amount that we can afford to lose, and another thing I will also say that other types of gambling such as sports betting still luck is an important factor.

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It is nothing new, once you take a high risk gambling prediction and things work in your favour you will have this feeling of overconfidence, as if you know how luck works, you will likely believe that the next time you gamble you are going to be very lucky again.

The one thing you don't want to be confident about is gambling, you are in no shape to believe anything about gambling, always remember that the system is wired to work against you, it is obviously idiotic to have your confidence on such.

You can't change any gambler when they have tasted the feeling of winning before, all you need to do is step back and let things play out itself, they like learning the hard way, it is a lesson that every gambler will go through in no time.

We know very well that a gambler does not always make the right decision when it comes to gambling. Especially those of us who have prior gambling experience can tell this well. But if someone says that gambling is directly dependent on luck, then I will contradict this because gambling is not directly dependent on luck at all, it depends a lot on one's skill with luck. What strategy I am playing, whether that strategy is correct or whether I have chosen the right site for gambling are some of the big issues for any gambler. If we bet on something without knowing anything about it and rely on luck, we will surely lose our money. So every gambler should make sure that he knows gambling well first and after getting a rough idea he should rely on luck.

I think winning at gambling requires both luck and skill. Luck will surely help you when you gamble with smart mind and strategy. And if you don't have any skills then you might not be able to win from gambling no matter how much money you spend. Professional gamblers plan a budget for gambling and gamble based on odds. So those who want to make money from gambling are fooling themselves if they rely entirely on luck. Improve your gambling skills along with gambling and try to win from there. Gambling should be done with proper strategy without being overly emotional in gambling. Nowadays many people bet on online casino sites and when they lose they blame it on luck but they never want to admit that they are incompetent.

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Quote from: Stablexcoin on September 10, 2024, 07:02:15 AM

When gamblers have huge wins or imaginable luck they tend to feel themselves as one who is ordained by God to be a gambling guru. Immediately the mindset changes thinking they can win other bets along the line. Let me just be frank here. I like the guy's confidence as i have been in that position to have won a bet with so much courage even when i know it is something that 98% of people see the impossibility happening. Yet, i did not think that i would be lucky in other games. The luck I had was a very big one, in as much as i shouldn't expect it to happen always like that doesn't mean I should stop trying because it might still happen again. We are not gurus in gambling, we are not professionals so we should be thankful when we win.

We can not be guru in gambling because gambling victory does not happen because of what we do but it happens randomly. You and I can be lucky and win more than one time back to back but there are people that if they try do it, they will fail. The failure is because they do not have our luck or it is not their time to win. Following our mind can give us luck but we should only use money that is not going to be a problem when we lose it. There is no predictable outcome in gambling, everything happens out of chance. Gambling being talked about is casino games that are based on luck and not sport betting or other games that you can use a strategy and be having a better odds of winning. People that claim to be professional are people that were lucky more than one time to win.

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Quote from: Stablexcoin on September 10, 2024, 07:02:15 AM

When gamblers have huge wins or imaginable luck they tend to feel themselves as one who is ordained by God to be a gambling guru. Immediately the mindset changes thinking they can win other bets along the line. Let me just be frank here. I like the guy's confidence as i have been in that position to have won a bet with so much courage even when i know it is something that 98% of people see the impossibility happening. Yet, i did not think that i would be lucky in other games. The luck I had was a very big one, in as much as i shouldn't expect it to happen always like that doesn't mean I should stop trying because it might still happen again. We are not gurus in gambling, we are not professionals so we should be thankful when we win.

And there are times a gambler feels like it is their lucky day or they are the luckiest man alive. Cheesy

It happens. Shit happens too. One mistake could ruin everything and when it comes to parlays, the chance of making a mistake grows higher as we add more games which is why the multiplier keeps on going high because the system knows to itself that the risk factor is also growing.

If we have that kind of mindset where we knew that what we are doing is high risk then I bet we won't just rely on luck. Sure, we are not professionals but there are still ways to increase the chance of winning.
The dude on OP's post, on the other hand, took it to another level and I don't suggest having so much confidence with our bets because it also equals our expectation growing high which and the frustration will be at the same level when the results come out.

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When gamblers have huge wins or imaginable luck they tend to feel themselves as one who is ordained by God to be a gambling guru. Immediately the mindset changes thinking they can win other bets along the line. Let me just be frank here. I like the guy's confidence as i have been in that position to have won a bet with so much courage even when i know it is something that 98% of people see the impossibility happening. Yet, i did not think that i would be lucky in other games. The luck I had was a very big one, in as much as i shouldn't expect it to happen always like that doesn't mean I should stop trying because it might still happen again. We are not gurus in gambling, we are not professionals so we should be thankful when we win.

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Quote from: Outhue on September 10, 2024, 04:13:14 AM

It is nothing new, once you take a high risk gambling prediction and things work in your favour you will have this feeling of overconfidence, as if you know how luck works, you will likely believe that the next time you gamble you are going to be very lucky again.

The one thing you don't want to be confident about is gambling, you are in no shape to believe anything about gambling, always remember that the system is wired to work against you, it is obviously idiotic to have your confidence on such.

You can't change any gambler when they have tasted the feeling of winning before, all you need to do is step back and let things play out itself, they like learning the hard way, it is a lesson that every gambler will go through in no time.

We know very well that a gambler does not always make the right decision when it comes to gambling. Especially those of us who have prior gambling experience can tell this well. But if someone says that gambling is directly dependent on luck, then I will contradict this because gambling is not directly dependent on luck at all, it depends a lot on one's skill with luck. What strategy I am playing, whether that strategy is correct or whether I have chosen the right site for gambling are some of the big issues for any gambler. If we bet on something without knowing anything about it and rely on luck, we will surely lose our money. So every gambler should make sure that he knows gambling well first and after getting a rough idea he should rely on luck.

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Let's think about it. There is only one way for a gambler to give the minimum commission to the casino: this is the way in which the gambler enters the casino, bets everything on black or red and leaves. Only in this way will the commissions be minimal, and the odds are clear. But what is the point of such a style of play? as a result? It is unlikely that anyone will enjoy such a process.
After all, such a bet will play for a minute. And so we come to the conclusion that if a gambler wants to enjoy the game, he will have to get involved in games where the odds are not entirely clear, for example, Slots. And at the same time make small bets, because of which the casino will receive enough commissions, making gambling even more unprofitable for the gambler.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 10, 2024, 05:32:37 PM

Why do people see themselves as a reservoir of unpredictable games whenever they bag a huge win in the midst of others?

As a gambler, it is so important to understand that luck plays a huge part in you winning, but some people believe they have found the winning pattern/strategy, just because they were lucky to win a game. If it was possible for one to get a winning pattern, they'd definitely run the bookmakers to the ground; so first thing is to be humble enough to accept that you have to be lucky to win and not that you can "magically" pick correct games.

You made a key point in this post which talked about humbling oneself and I couldn't agree more. If you don't remain humble the majority of the time then I would say to that man "pride comes before the fall". Lets not forget the importance of having confidence when I say this, I am not saying that being confident is a bad thing, but what I am saying is that you should be sure of how you feel in the moment in which you place your bet, having completed all necessary research and due diligence trust your gut instinct at the time in which you place any bet & maybe you will be more or less at ease when you make it and have better decisiveness in doing so.

Strategies are just there for the use of the gambler to guide his predictions of games and not that it's an assurance to earn us a win but some gamblers get carried away with a strategy they tried for the first time and it worked out well as predicted. And as a result they tend to multiply their staking power on the next prediction expelling the possibility of the bet not repeating the lucky win.

I have witnessed in sports betting a similar situation where a particular gambler won his bet and the next time he game to make another bet some persons around asked to play his games thinking they'll have a win too like the other time but sadly all their tickets we all lost.

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