Topic: Abortion should be banned. - page 4. (Read 2080 times)

You are a righteous person if you have done this and may the Almighty God Bless your family with abundance and protect the home you dwell in if this is the case.

Honestly it should b ban and infact kill whoever try the act, isn't making sense by doing abortion when there is what you can used to prevent yourself being pregnant like i  don't know hy some are just fucking heartless doing abortion.
TO me is a bad act to be doing abortion and moreover the drugs using for this act should be ban and stop and some people always feel happy doing that shit like seriously such person deserve to be kill by hanging.

I can't take my anger for those people who have done it. I mean, if you can't take the responsibility itself why do they have to do it without safety in the first place? Abortion is killing someone's life, either you do it in silent it's still a sin. So yeah, i mean I'm agree to ban aboetion, however we can't control it.  Ban or not, people who are afraid to take the responsibility will do it. 

Thats correct and I support the proposal that abortion should be banned because the people that did one are automatically a killer and the last time I checked there are a lot of things out there created for us to have protective sex and also prevent unwanted pregnancy.
Anybody that has unprotective sex should be mature enough to face the consequences rather than ending an innocent child's life.

Everyone can start a family. But it is important to do it wisely. Abortion shouldn't be done. After all, it is very unhealthy. We have graced a child from an orphanage.

That's your "imagination" giving you ideas there. Womanhood is sacred and a man who defiles a woman against her will should face stern justice. Men should protect women and children as is the natural law.

I have made my point with the sentence you just read as have you with the sentence you just wrote  

life is not precious. many people in this topic that pretend life is precious, actually think freedom and choice is precious.. not life

many people in this forum are ok with having the choice to be anti-vax and affect others lives.

americans love their guns. meaning death in the defence of others freedom is allowed.
so if a pregnancy is going to affect the freedoms of the mother. then yes the abortion is a defence

americans like freedom of choice
so again if the mother makes a choice she should be allowed to make the choice

americans like being anti-rape
so if a woman has an unwanted being inside her. thats rape. and should be stopped

the funny part is the anti-abortion lunatics dont care much about rape. as they want the conceived outcome to continue

the even funnier part is the sexist mindset that woman should not have a choice and also the mindset that woman are just vessels for a males desires

Abortion shouldn't be banned even tho it's evil, my reason are;

Instead of a bringing a child to this world that you can't take care of, terminate the baby, people will say you don't know what that child can impact on the society, ask them whether are they ready to care of the child  if you give birth to them.

Some couples that are not ready to have children can agree to abort.

Abortion should be banned. It should only be carried out where there is an impending miscarriage, birth defects and risks to the mother’s health and it must be recommended by a qualified medical practitioner. Life is precious. Life is sacred. Who ever didn’t give life has no right to take it. No matter how liberal our generation becomes respect and value for human life should never be negotiated.

Neither can do it on their own. A sperm or egg can't do it without the other. A zygote can't do it without a uterus, a placenta, an amniotic sac, an umbilical cord, a constant source of oxygen and nutrients, efficient removal of carbon dioxide, urea, electrolytes, and other waste products, warmth, protection, etc. The only difference between an unfertilized egg cell and a fertilized egg cell is the number of chromosomes. If that is what you are going to base "personhood" on, then exfoliating your skin becomes mass genocide.

But it is not a human being. A fertilized egg cell is no more a person than an acorn is a tree.

Not really. The structures in the brain required for any degree of consciousness or higher level thinking don't even exist prior to around 26 weeks.

See above. A fetus without a functioning cerebellum cannot be conscious.

And ends with an abortion.  What is your point?

Life begins at conception.

That's not true, a sperm or egg cell can't on it's own differentiate into an entire human, only a zygote can do that. And so human life begins at conception, so there isn't any arbitrary cut off. That is what the science says - human life begins when a sperm cell attaches to an egg. This isn't about data, the biology is clear on when human life begins.

If you don't think abortion is okay at 8.5 months, then viability is arbitrary too because consciousness is fairly subjective. The brain at viability in the womb is no where near advance enough to experience any level of lucidity or awareness.


I didn't say you were arguing this - only pointing out that human life does not magically become something else only because the brain isn't fully developed yet. Consciousness isn't what defines a human.


And again, viability isn't anything objective, because you cannot define human consciousness at any specific point during development to any degree of accuracy. Even post birth, the brain is so under developed that "consciousness" is hardly achieved, if achieved at all. Science isn't even sure how consciousness works, so to pinpoint it through development in the womb is just pseudo science.

Absolutely, given the right conditions. A human skin cell could be made to grow in to an entire human given the right conditions. A fertilized egg cell will only grow in to an entire human given the right conditions. Your cut off of fertilization is complete arbitrary and not based on any scientific data. The only difference is the number of chromosomes.

Please point out where I have ever argued for abortions at 8.5 months. We are talking only about abortions of non-viable fetuses. Creating strawmen like this only weakens your argument, as does using clearly hyperbolic terms like pro-abortion and celebrating abortion. Thinking that women should have a little bit of bodily autonomy is not the same as celebrating abortion.

Not before they are viable they do not.

Can a sperm or egg differentiate into a human being? No. A zygote is the only thing that can differentiate into a human being. And if you are pro-abortion, again, that means there is no difference between a zygote, embryo, and fetus.

Let's make it simple - is a fetus human life? What separates a fetus at 8.5 months of a development and a baby that is post birth by 1 day? What makes it okay to end the life at 8.5 months, but not post birth by 1 day.

Being born is not the difference, the life inside the womb and outside the womb is the same. At 8.5 months, almost all development has been completed. So it would be the pro-abortionists with arbitrary limits as to what they constitute as human life.

Abortion becomes more unethical as the baby is further developed in the womb. I don't care if a zygote is aborted. It just becomes more cruel as you go on.


So your limit for abortion would be the ability to respond to stimuli, then?

A plant can respond to stimuli, so can insects. That does not mean they are "conscious". Babies are not aware of what's going going on, they are essentially floating balls of cells merely existing. I consider consciousness to be a condition at which you are aware of what is going on, and surely babies that are 1 or 2 days do not possess any ability to recognize or understand their environment at any deep level. By baby, I mean one that is under 1 week old. When you are an infant, your brain develops rapidly.


Exactly, this is my point, similarly, a zygote, embryo, and fetus have the capability for consciousness, which is why it is a tragedy to abort them.

The extremists have been created through a false narrative spread across society like a cancer by the "too many useless eaters brigade" The extremists are "useful idiots" like all radicals that are used to acheive the goals of violent revolutionaries in sheeps clothing infecting the corridors of power all across western democracies today.

While I understand the point that's trying to be made with this perspective (and yes it is nice to have men in particular see it from a different angle).
Can we not advocate for more oppression?

We don't need to create a war on males to keep liberty for woman.

It depends on your beliefs in life. And for me, I am not blaming anyone in case they will go thru this process. It is their body and who knows, they have valid reason why they need to. It is only them that can truly answer the reason why?

Abortions should remain safe and legal
And a private medical decision.



If you are against abortion you should definitely not have one.