Topic: Accusing BitsPoker - page 8. (Read 11961 times)

Yes I would, except you might have missed the fact that I don't have Skype records going back that far.

BTW z3, I can post your intention to make the site successful then flip it for a quick profit. You also were up till a few hours ago, debating whether or not running a Bitcoin Poker site was legal (I saw you talking on grindabit chat.) You're being manipulative and showing one side of the story and I think you're getting caught in the act.

 I tis your duty because you bought a poker site, fucked it up, and people deposited money. In effect it is theft. If it is your site, you are responsible.
 Your players did not mismanage money, your players did not play under fake accounts, your players did not go on grindabit and abuse people who had complaints.
 I wish I would have had the person forward me the email when they came on bits and said they sent an email to support and the response they got was simply Fuck Off.

Care to do the same about the process of you becoming the owner of this site?
All conversations are ok to post, as per Cyrus authorisation, as well as any tx id involved.

Seriously? Great way to pay back someone who has put their effort into creating a nice poker site for brats like you.

I live with my family because I like them, I have no shame in that. The United States is in a very fucked up situation right now, spiritually and otherwise. A lot of people are in a tough spot, but really my situation isn't something I'm going to be filled with humility about. I've chosen to live here when having the chose to abandon my family like most people do as soon as they can.

What does this have to do with anything? You're bored and looking to cause shit. Great way to pay back my efforts.

It's clear that you're a rat, posting private conversations for seemingly no reason other than to humor yourself. Loser.

I think I do remember saying I was going to be spending some time with family, but nothing that would require me to be completely afk. We did talk on a daily basis.

Well obviously you're another idiot who doesn't know how to drive necessary traffic to a poker room. Keep complaining about freerolls, even though you played them all the time. Besides, I already said they were removed. Did you see what it did to the traffic? Well, luckily we had already a player base big enough by then to keep it going with the GTD's, so long as we could process withdraws. When that shit hit the fan, that's when everything got ruined. Of course I also mentioned before, the low turnout from the Sunday 5k GTD did more damage to us than the freerolls, and yet I still firmly believe it was a necessary tournament. It's simple, you need to put money into the site if you expect to see any money out of it in terms of profit from rake. Otherwise you're wasting your time. Now, explain to me why it is my duty to pay anyone anything? I've put my money into the idea of a prosperous BitsPoker. That amount exceeded the amount that is owed by players, meaning I think a more fair deal would be to submit to the coercive accusation that I'm a failure, leave, and give the 50% as per the agreement back to Cyrus, and he can hopefully find another more suitable investor/partner/owner/whatever who I imagine would cover the .25 BTC (rough estimate) in pending withdraws.

Hahaha, small laptop screens make it almost impossible to post PM/skype/irc logs, and I'm not even talking about those HUGE tx Ids. I known, right? I feel for you.

Recently you had told me you were going to be busy with other things and I got the impression you were busy/blowing off the situation. You can read into that as me trying to stop her from talking to you. Whatever.

if captain (you) steers the ship through the shallow waters (freerolls+gtd) why do you blame the sailor? captain is responsible for everything. you said yourself that freeroll structure was your doing, even though number of players (myself included) have said that there are so many freerolls that nobody is playing ring games. yet they continued to drain the funds until none were left and then we went into red with guaranteeds that had on average 40-50 percent fill rate.

before you walk away, are you going to pay people off or not?

I know you worked hard on the site, so did I. One of the reasons I sold is that I realised somebody more experienced should run it, as it's not a very easy project to run.
But this doesn't excuse the fact that you were calling me a scammer behind my back. No hard feelings, I don't hold grudges.

No, z3 is the rat here.

I think your work was in both places as it ought to be, because you're intelligent enough. However I think you were short on funds, that's all. Maybe short on time too. I couldn't fill the leaks in the site that were present before I go on board, however I think you put some pressure on me to do or either didn't understand what needed to be done immediately to fix the leaks. I know we also had limited funds to work with, however this is all after the fact of the contract which is important. Again, my assumption was we could both do this some how if we both tried, and I felt I had a good understanding of what it would take to make players happy, trust us, etc. but I knew it needed to be done a certain way, in a certain time frame. The site was not ready as I thought it was, otherwise I had no doubts we could pull it off. It's great to see that when we couldn't, you put the blame on me and call me the owner who failed.

lol at cheating accusation, that's rich mate.

seriously though, since I got your attention, are you going to reimburse people who got their deposits stuck in the game?

Out of respect, for you and our agreement, I haven't divulged your name, in this thread, or to others. I guess you must have told him yourself.

Well thank you for disrespecting my desire to be anonymous, after you had cheated the withdraw limit on the site daily, and I never bothered you about it.

Either way, I've been needing to address the topic of the auction. Since I'm declaring that I'm not going to be involved in the site any longer, I will hand over the BitsPoker Bitcointalk account and all other accounts (which simply means Cyrus can login and change the password), and as he is a mod I would request he facilitate in deleting the Auction thread altogether so we can put that aside and you can stop annoying me with that question.

Faisal Alsarraf, answer straight, are you going to pay depositors off before the auction of the site? are you going to make auction fair and public?

Nothing personal with you. Not even going to comment on all the things you said to z3Moons in private. You dissapointed me.
But you are somewhat contradicting yourself about how involved I was. We went every direction you desired. You were in charge of table/tournament structure, whom to contact, etc. I did share my opinion on most occasions, especially when you asked. But most of my work was as you put it 'at the bottom', and I was happy to do it.

Aren't mine, or other player's too? Hasn't this escalated from the fact that z3Moons was under the impression I was running the whole thing and that I was a shady, ghostly, never to be found person?
Just trying to set things right.

Sorry but you should have told me you were telling someone that I can't be reached on Skype, when I can.